Hi, I thought the whitebalance was a bit bluish/cold so I took two pictures and compared them. The picture taken with P20 pro has exactly the same white balance as real life whilst the mate 20 pro picture has a cold, bluish tint.
Has anyone else noticed this?
BR
tusenkonstnar said:
Hi, I thought the whitebalance was a bit bluish/cold so I took two pictures and compared them. The picture taken with P20 pro has exactly the same white balance as real life whilst the mate 20 pro picture has a cold, bluish tint.
Has anyone else noticed this?
BR
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There is already an update coming up (137 I think) which should fix this (pictures are more real according to the change log)
I really hope so because currently I tend to instead use P20 pro indoor to avoid getting the phone to "adjust" white balance so every photo taken at home or at friends gets walls, doors etc that are white to look like the indoor lightning was like in an office or the xenon-lights from a car instead of warm and cosy as it actually IS.
I am not sure I would call this an issue. I much prefer a cooler tint to a warmer one. People are far too used this this ridiculous warm tint most phones give off.
Please remember that the screen is not in natural colour mode when you get it, you have to change it to standard from vivid and depending on the monitor or TV you view it on, this will alter it as well.
I would hate Huawei to mess around with white balance that I find to be perfect.
Also remember that the lights in most homes makes indoor shots look like trash because it might look warm and cosy to you, but that is not what it actually looks like in daylight!
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tusenkonstnar said:
I really hope so because currently I tend to instead use P20 pro indoor to avoid getting the phone to "adjust" white balance so every photo taken at home or at friends gets walls, doors etc that are white to look like the indoor lightning was like in an office or the xenon-lights from a car instead of warm and cosy as it actually IS.
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You have got this wrong, the phone is a little more advanced than you, and is showing you the ACTUAL colour balance, not the nonsense warm tone your inefficient indoor lighting is throwing out.
Jonathan-H said:
I am not sure I would call this an issue. I much prefer a cooler tint to a warmer one. People are far too used this this ridiculous warm tint most phones give off.
Please remember that the screen is not in natural colour mode when you get it, you have to change it to standard from vivid and depending on the monitor or TV you view it on, this will alter it as well.
I would hate Huawei to mess around with white balance that I find to be perfect.
Also remember that the lights in most homes makes indoor shots look like trash because it might look warm and cosy to you, but that is not what it actually looks like in daylight!
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You have got this wrong, the phone is a little more advanced than you, and is showing you the ACTUAL colour balance, not the nonsense warm tone your inefficient indoor lighting is throwing out.
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No I'm not wrong on this one and it's actually an extremely strange thing to say.
A correct white balance produces a picture that reflects the reality.
That is:
If the picture is taken in a cave with candle lights that shall be reflected in the picture. It shall not look like a completely different situation as if there where cool white office lightning.
In the same way, If I'm taking a photo of a beach or a landscape at sunset I would not like the phone to changes the color to what it might have looked like during day time.
There are a lot of arguments one can have around this but one fact remain:
Pictures taken with P20 Pro looks like the real world and the photos on Mate 20 pro changes this so the picture does not reflect the reality.
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Auto WB issue! Video Link showing dynamic changing in light sources: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0F0x1wkt5EU
This ones to all you SGS2 owners...
Today whilst takin' pics of my son, i noticed whilst pointing the camera down at my cream coloured carpet a pink hue was clearly visible in the centre of the shot. I took a snap and the hue was on definitely there... this was during the day time with only ambient light from my large bay windows...
slowly panning up across the room towards the window it seems to fade away, but directly at the light surface its unmissable...
I double checked the shot on my partners DHD, her shot was completely pink, very poor camera!!
Anyone elses S2 suffering from this? a quick google search shows this has also been an issue on other handsets such as the Nexus One and Samsung Focus...
Cheers,
Dickie
This is very important.
Can you make some photos and upload it?
if someone more have the classic tint pink of cheap cameras like other HTCs I am going to cancel my order inmediately.
Here are some untouched Macro shots taken in my backyard in fading light with the Galaxy S II, was a bit windy so the flowers kept moving:
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I don't know of any sansung Focus.
Can anyone shoot to white walls or cloudy sky?
It is the faster way to see if the camera have the pink tint.
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I don't know of any sansung Focus.
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lol alright smart arse, edited
The shot! 8mp default settings
http://postimage.org/image/7zd9ak9w/
Dickie
just to add, this has been the only time ive noticed this issue, shots taken across the room show no visible signs of this, just the straight shot...
tbh, with the quality of all the other shots ive taken, its not a deal breaker for me, this phone still blows away any other ive used, and i don't find blank white walls/carpets interesting enough to take photos of...
Dickie
That sure looks like something I read about some HTC phone a while back. I'll need to check my phone to see. I wonder if it's software or hardware related.
after some testing i believe this is a software issue, specifically with the AUTO White Balance setting, as i point it to the cloudy sky out the window it looks perfect and when switched to incandescent it goes away!!
like i said before, i don't make a habit of shooting my carpet or my white walls very often!
Dickie
EDIT: when switched to Daylight mode, it also goes away, although it makes the carpet look orange for obvious reasons... Definitely a White Balance issue, the lighting and colour of the carpet requires the correct setting as opposed to the Auto mode, outside or with good lighting the Auto setting is fine! as far as i'm concerned, panic over! lol
dickie2007 said:
after some testing i believe this is a software issue, specifically with the AUTO White Balance setting, as i point it to the cloudy sky out the window it looks perfect and when switched to incandescent it goes away!!
like i said before, i don't make a habit of shooting my carpet or my white walls very often!
Dickie
EDIT: when switched to Daylight mode, it also goes away, although it makes the carpet look orange for obvious reasons... Definitely a White Balance issue, the lighting and colour of the carpet requires the correct setting as opposed to the Auto mode, outside or with good lighting the Auto setting is fine! as far as i'm concerned, panic over! lol
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That it isn't a white balance issue, it is a hardware problem. HTC got the same problems on a lot of devices before, and they tried to hide it tweaking the colors, but that doesnt solve the real problem.
If I were you I will return the phone for another one.
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That it isn't a white balance issue, it is a hardware problem. HTC got the same problems on a lot of devices before, and they tried to hide it tweaking the colors, but that doesnt solve the real problem.
If I were you I will return the phone for another one.
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then why when i switch to the correct WB setting for the lighting i'm in does the issue disappear?? the issue only arrises in Auto mode under certain lighting conditions. just took a white sheet outside on Auto - No issue!
Dickie
Maybe in a non-auto mode they know the color temperature that software will apply to the image and then they can tweak the pink tint of the image, but with an auto mode that changes dinamically the color grade they cant adjust the pink tint.
I really dont know, but all of the pink tints problems in all other phones are hardware related issues, I don't know why this is going to be different.
i get exactly what you are saying, but i'm only going by what i'm working out on my device...
at the end of the day, like i said before, its not a deal breaker for me, and ive not had a single issue with it in other lighting conditions...
Also, ive just walked around my room allowing the camera to adjust dynamically, and it does disappear!! i have a standing lamp on, a small window on the opposite wall, and the large bay window at the front of the room, the pink hue is not permanent and is just the Auto WB not being perfect.
Its even visible on video, so i'll upload a vid of the pink disappearing as i walk around the room and the light changes dynamically! Auto WB issue for sure!!
Dickie
Just registered after seeing this...
A pink hue like you describe usually means infrared contamination, and happens on any camera to varying degree. Some black clothing in direct sunlight suffers the most.
Edit: Extreme Example: vimeo (dot) com/5637250
Regards, Matt
I'm just uploading a video to Youtube 720p - WB AUTO
You can clearly see the pink hue fading in and out as the phone auto adjusts to the varying lighting in my home, namely Incandescent light fittings, Fluorecent light fittings and daylight outside.
If i set the camera to a setting for one of those lighting conditions specifically, there is no issue in said condition.
I will update this post when its uploaded with the link - THIS IS NOT A PERMANENT HUE CAUSED BY HARDWARE - ITS SOFTWARE STRUGGLING WITH THE LIGHTING CONDITION!! - phew!!
Dickie
EDIT: the hue becomes very apparent after pointing the camera and any of the light sources directly then quickly moving to a white surface, it then gradually adjusts away...
LINK: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0F0x1wkt5EU
kersh said:
Maybe in a non-auto mode they know the color temperature that software will apply to the image and then they can tweak the pink tint of the image, but with an auto mode that changes dinamically the color grade they cant adjust the pink tint.
I really dont know, but all of the pink tints problems in all other phones are hardware related issues, I don't know why this is going to be different.
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I doubt Samsung will use the low quality camera sensor that HTC uses buddy.
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Just registered after seeing this...
A pink hue like you describe usually means infrared contamination, and happens on any camera to varying degree. Some black clothing in direct sunlight suffers the most.
Edit: Extreme Example: vimeo (dot) com/5637250
Regards, Matt
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not sure its the same buddy, it appears in the centre of the image and fades out, i'm 100% certain that this issue is WB/lighting condition related, 10mins and the link will be up if your interested...
Dickie
Intratech said:
I doubt Samsung will use the low quality camera sensor that HTC uses buddy.
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I can't agree more there, you should have seen the same shot on the Desire HD, the carpet was entirely pink!! not just a spot in the middle..
Dickie
BTW I just checked my phone and observed the same situation as described by Dickie. After checking for myself I'm certain it's software related. They may need to tweak their auto white balance algorithm.
Please see link above or in OP
Dickie
It seems that there is a lot of variance between the display quality between different SGS2 units. I myself was perfectly happy with mine until the screen had to be replaced by the Samsung warranty service. The new display wasn't half as bright as the one before and the light sensor coupled with a dim display makes it even worse. I've done some comparison between different units and found that almost all of them had different quality displays - many way too dark.
I made a photo comparison between our own to SGS2s using an original device (bought in early July) as a reference as its display performance is similar to the one I used to have in mine before the replacement.
I would be happy to hear if you have noticed similar differences with you own or your friends units just to get sense of how common the issue is.
The full story below!
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I’ve been a pretty happy owner of a Samsung Galaxy SII since April. I’ve especially been pleased with the excellent display that is able to deliver true blacks while being one of the brightest screens out there.
Imagine my horror then when the display broke. It looked like something was leaking inside it. It started as a minor pink hue in the edge of the screen and in a couple days had turned into a bruise covering one fourth of the screen. All the pixels seemed to work but there was a shadow with distinct edges clouding the picture.
The issue
Luckily the warranty covered this and the service point returned my phone with a note: “Display module replaced“. Little did I know that not all Super Amoled+ screens are created equal. After a minute of using the serviced device I noticed that the screen was somehow dark – noticeably darker than before. I checked all the settings – everything was set up the way it had been before with the auto-brightness set on. It just wasn’t the screen I had come to know. We have two units of the SGS2 at home and so I compared the serviced one with the other original unit. The display in the original (reference) unit was noticeably brighter than mine. The difference was even more apparent in the dark shades – where the reference display separated several different shades of dark grays mine only displayed black. The original screen on the reference device delivered the same quality as my ‘pre-serviced’ unit. Then I turned off the auto-brightness on both devices and cranked up the brightness to the max. Again the serviced unit was visibly dim compared to the reference unit. Even the color space between the devices are different – the original quite natural and a tad warm and the serviced one distinctly cool with whites tilted towards blue.
Next I borrowed a couple of other S2′s from colleagues at the office and it turned out their devices were just as dim as my serviced one – one even dimmer! I guess this explains why some reviewers and users have judged the display on the SGS2 to be too dark – something that I always thought to be a silly complaint. It seems that the display quality between devices varies greatly. I’m currently expecting a reply from my service point as to what I should do with my ‘faulty’ screen – I’ll let you know how this pans out.
I tried taking photos with the reference unit and the serviced unit side-by-side. If you think the differences are small and to complain is silly you should know that the real life effect is that taking photos and watching videos is now a pain because every shadow is just a solid black area and when you go into a dark room the auto-brightness drops the brightness way too low. So if you own a Samsung Galaxy s2 with a dark screen – you are one of the unlucky ones.
Below are the comparison shots. If you suspect you have one of the dark screens feel free to leave a comment below.
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you joined this site specifically to link to your own one it seems?
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you joined this site specifically to link to your own one it seems?
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The forum won't let me add photos because I've just registered - only way to show them for now is to direct people to the site. Or about six posts from now I guess I will be allowed to post pictures as well.
I will add the whole text in a moment.
either way, it seems you joined specifically to talk about your site. Seems a bit trollish to me
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you joined this site specifically to link to your own one it seems?
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Happy now? Any comments on the real topic of this thread?
no not really
Yeah i'm also one of the unlucky ones with the dark screen. What makes it worse is the blue tinge when you tilt the screen slightly. Another problem, my screen keeps going bright for about 3 to 4 secs about every 45 seconds and then goes dull again. Nothing to do with auto brightness by the way because i turned it off.
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Yeah I've noticed the hue shift when tilting the display as well. Also on gray and white surfaces when the screen dims the color is not smooth but looks rather like there is some dirt under the glass. Like it's a whole different type of display than the one in our other SGS2.
I experienced the same situation. I had to replace the screen on the S2 bought back in may due to nasty scratches. The screen was otherwise really top notch with no visible defects.
The one they replaced with is much dimmer and actually has a higher contrast which leads to some color burn. There are also stripes from top to bottom when I pull down the top bar. And as if that was not enough, the picture is grainy. As you pointed out it feels as a totally different display.
I am not going to swap it since I managed to lower the contrast to an acceptable level but it's quite disappointing regardless.
This could be samsungs way of trying to slow down the screen burning?
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I still haven't bought an S2 yet but this is a bit of a concern. I'd like to hear from more people with a newer phone, do they have the same screen issues as mentioned above.
If you come from HTC to Samsung, you're certainly going to notice the difference. At least in my case, the HTC had better whites on screen and no blue tinge when tilting screen.
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I frequently flash between the XW and XX series of ROMs and notice that on some roms, the screen is darker and on others it is brighter. This is when it is being tested at 100% brightness and display setting set to normal.
If i knew for sure that flashing my phone with the correct ROM would make my screen brighter, i would do it in a flash.
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Same problem with the white sgs2 I bought few days ago. Really disappointing.
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Same problem with the white sgs2 I bought few days ago. Really disappointing.
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Would you still recommend the S2 with the screen as it is on yours, or has it spoilt a good phone?
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Would you still recommend the S2 with the screen as it is on yours, or has it spoilt a good phone?
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I would still recommend the phone, but you will have to use manual brightness instead.
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For those with the dim screen, if you are adventurous enough, you can follow the instructions here forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1235212&highlight=brightness to crank up the brightness of your phone so that you can use the auto brightness.
I have a new white sgs2 and this is the first Android phone I have had where the auto brightness on all roms Samsung or cm7 is totally useless. I use manual now and it looks good at around 1 3rd brightness so heavens knows how low the auto brightness is setting it!
Ephumuris
supermurmeli said:
Yeah I've noticed the hue shift when tilting the display as well. Also on gray and white surfaces when the screen dims the color is not smooth but looks rather like there is some dirt under the glass. Like it's a whole different type of display than the one in our other SGS2.
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I have the same problem, dirt under glass. The strange thing is, I got a replacement, the same problem. When you lower the brightness, there is small dark area, like dust. Two devices the same shop, the same problem. I start wondering it is the production quality Samsung can get
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If i knew for sure that flashing my phone with the correct ROM would make my screen brighter, i would do it in a flash.
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I have talked about this several times and even sent private messages to developers but all ignored it.
Anyway, try flashing the official kernal of KE2 and you will see the difference.
The collors and screen brightness will change without any effect what so ever to the device performance.
Screen Adjuster is another way to correct this, it is a free program in the market which will do the job for you .
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UKseagull said:
I still haven't bought an S2 yet but this is a bit of a concern. I'd like to hear from more people with a newer phone, do they have the same screen issues as mentioned above.
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HTC is no better, I had a Sensation before and it had the same problems, They use two different screen types and many complains about it in the Sensation forum.
Hey guys, I've never posted here, I mostly just lurk and try to learn things.
My question is a bit difficult to explain but I'll try my best. Do me a favor and take a photo while completely covering the camera lens, then view the photo in the gallery. Make sure youre in a dark room and viewing the photo in full screen, wait a second for the back and task manager buttons to turn off as well.
Is your picture completely black or are the outside edges and corners fuzzy and white almost?
My previous phones are Galaxy S1, 2, 3 and 4 along with the Note 3 (which I miss :/ ) never had a problem like this, I do believe some GS2s had a similar problem with the screen being spotty in black images.
thanks.
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Hey guys, I've never posted here, I mostly just lurk and try to learn things.
My question is a bit difficult to explain but I'll try my best. Do me a favor and take a photo while completely covering the camera lens, then view the photo in the gallery. Make sure youre in a dark room and viewing the photo in full screen, wait a second for the back and task manager buttons to turn off as well.
Is your picture completely black or are the outside edges and corners fuzzy and white almost?
My previous phones are Galaxy S1, 2, 3 and 4 along with the Note 3 (which I miss :/ ) never had a problem like this, I do believe some GS2s had a similar problem with the screen being spotty in black images.
thanks.
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Hello there, I did a test for you on mine, when i was in my room with my lights on but completely covered the lens and mine came out fuzzy. It seems that the s5 camera is very powerful picking up the slightest bit of light !
Then I turned off the lights in my room and did the same test, this time it was pitch black.
Did you try turning all your lights off in your room?
Thanks for your input, my initial test was in a room with the lights off. Looks so bad :/
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Thanks for your input, my initial test was in a room with the lights off. Looks so bad :/
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I noticed that with my camera too. The exact same thing happens to me too when I cover the camera, in both lighted and unlighted rooms. But I'm pretty sure it's normal. When your ISO is on auto, you'll notice that the camera turns up the ISO past what you can manually set it at (800). So since they're bumping up the ISO so high (probably ~1600 in dark areas), there's going to be considerable amounts of noise, even with very low light.
You can see for yourself that if you compare auto ISO and ISO 800 in a dark room, the latter will be much more pitch black like you expect it to be.
Just picked up an AT&T One M7, and wow, the screen temp is incredibly warm compared to my G2 and just about everything else I use with an LCD screen. Is there an app/rom/kernel (or any combo) out there that will back my screen away from the warm tint? Thanks!
matt310 said:
Just picked up an AT&T One M7, and wow, the screen temp is incredibly warm compared to my G2 and just about everything else I use with an LCD screen. Is there an app/rom/kernel (or any combo) out there that will back my screen away from the warm tint? Thanks!
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The warm tint is supposed to be correct and true to real life colors and what you actually see. Why would you want to stress your eyes by making the colors unnatural and harsh? I wish more companies would make their LCD's this way instead of the artificial over driven blinding harsh colors.
I calibrate my Nexus 5 with the SpyderGallery app. You just need a Spyder sensor... It isn't really a calibration in the operating system. But it will show the right colours opening images in the gallery of this app. This helps me when showing photos to my clients.
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The warm tint is supposed to be correct and true to real life colors and what you actually see. Why would you want to stress your eyes by making the colors unnatural and harsh? I wish more companies would make their LCD's this way instead of the artificial over driven blinding harsh colors.
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I wish manufacturers would give consumers the choice. Clearly there's a variance in panel manufacturing and factory calibrations, even from within the same display supplier. To me, warmer, yellow screens looks dingy and dirty, and not what my eyes are used to when reading web pages. So the warmer temperature may actually have the opposite effect on my reading comfort. Nokia has begun offering an in-OS setting on WP devices that helps correct minor variations - and I'd love to see other OEMs follow suit.
Basically, my S8 Plus' colour balance seems to look nicer than my M20Pro
I like my display a bit warm, even on the warmest of colours (In the settings) my M20Pro still looks extremely washed out and light / white.
Anyone else having this issue?
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Basically, my S8 Plus' colour balance seems to look nicer than my M20Pro
I like my display a bit warm, even on the warmest of colours (In the settings) my M20Pro still looks extremely washed out and light / white.
Anyone else having this issue?
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Settings>Display>EyeComfort>ColorTemperature
Turn on Eye comfort
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Settings>Display>EyeComfort>ColorTemperature
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Thank you for the response, just tried this, still not getting the same types of colours compared to my S8 plus.
tomorrow I'll get my camera out and I'll try to show what I mean.
Just adjust it to the way temp you like. I liked the colder temp. The screen makes the whites on the pixel 2 xl horrible
I like my display as white as possible. So I like it on the cooler side
I am a little disappointed in the warmth of the screen. Yes, OLED means perfect black - but the screen is otherwise quite cold even when the 'eye comfort' is set to vivid & warm. In fact, laying this phone beside my 1st gen OPO (which was a textbook 'cold' LCD), they don't really look all that different.
Obviously Samsung tends to go to near garish, eye searing ends of the spectrum when you have things set to 'vivid', but my 10" Tab 2 is so juicy your eyeballs explode and dribble down your face. I wonder if this screen is simply cold by hardware design or if it would be possible through software to make things warmer yet. It isn't a deal breaker, but putting this thing next to an iPhone XS (which is also considered quite 'cold', explained insistently as 'more accurate'), the XS actually looks somewhat more juicy than this thing. I don't want accurate, I want to get radiation burns from the ridiculous over saturation.
YakuzaNeko said:
Basically, my S8 Plus' colour balance seems to look nicer than my M20Pro
I like my display a bit warm, even on the warmest of colours (In the settings) my M20Pro still looks extremely washed out and light / white.
Anyone else having this issue?
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This must be a defect then because the display is better than the Note 9 and S9 plus when its not going green. If you really need an unnaturally warm tone, it should be perfectly doable in the settings if your phone isn't faulty.
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kaibosh99 said:
I am a little disappointed in the warmth of the screen. Yes, OLED means perfect black - but the screen is otherwise quite cold even when the 'eye comfort' is set to vivid & warm. In fact, laying this phone beside my 1st gen OPO (which was a textbook 'cold' LCD), they don't really look all that different.
Obviously Samsung tends to go to near garish, eye searing ends of the spectrum when you have things set to 'vivid', but my 10" Tab 2 is so juicy your eyeballs explode and dribble down your face. I wonder if this screen is simply cold by hardware design or if it would be possible through software to make things warmer yet. It isn't a deal breaker, but putting this thing next to an iPhone XS (which is also considered quite 'cold', explained insistently as 'more accurate'), the XS actually looks somewhat more juicy than this thing. I don't want accurate, I want to get radiation burns from the ridiculous over saturation.
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What is it with people loving these horrible warm displays? Get an iphone x they have lovely yellow whites with truetone turned on. I wager you'll love that.