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Google Play now ignores "Never Update Automatically", just updated EVERYTHING!
Just now, I noticed that Google Play has conveniently "forgotten" the setting I have had in place for YEARS, that prevents my phone from being taken over by sluggish new versions and impossibly invasive new permissions of my apps. I turned on WiFi on the phone about an hour ago, and just now when I checked, it updated ALL my apps automatically.
WTF.
How can this happen? Google Play Store was being overly invasive with the constant "do you want to auto-update this" and "do you want to auto-update that" question every time I ever installed a new app since the new version got rolled out... isn't one time enough, you idiots?
And then it STILL decides to completely ignore my explicit denial of the question, and to simply auto-update everything in the background. When I checked, it had set itself to "auto-update over WiFi".
WTF.
This is making me so mad because it cannot even be undone anymore.
- I'm running some older versions of apps that are 100% stable and great, but their developer decided all of a sudden that he wanted access to my calendar or contacts in an update, or whatever. So I never updated those apps ON PURPOSE, you idiots.
- I could roll back to backups, sure, but now with the new versions installed, the permissions are not reversible for the app. Oops! Here, take my contacts. Take my calendar. Being a stopwatch app, I'm sure you need those things from me.
- I'm running some other older versions of apps that are running very smoothly in their old versions. One example is the Opera browser - since they switched to Webkit, everyone and their mother reports that it's slower than their grandmother. I just tried the glorious new version and it's slower and more sluggish than my grandmother carrying your grandmother. I don't want to "upgrade" to that, thank you very much. Well, now I have. Thanks Google.
This is outrageous. I'm now seriously considering dumping this goddamn thing that Android has become in favor of something else. Windows maybe, or Ububtu. Or even Firefox OS when it comes out.
W.T.F.
I don't know what else to say. I'm furious.
/rant
* When I say "idiots" above, I mean the genius devs over at Google who managed to **** up a good thing so badly. I don't mean anyone of you nice gentlemen on here. I just needed a place to rant. Thanks.
Hi Guys
I have a quick question - How do i remove system apps on the Tab S3.
Everytime i go to remove and app thru Tit Backup - It restores it after reboot.
Rooted with SuperSU - Id like to uninstall Knox etc but cant?
I had this on the S8 - Is this to do with the Kernel needing to be permissive? Any help would be welcome.
fkofilee said:
Hi Guys
I have a quick question - How do i remove system apps on the Tab S3.
Everytime i go to remove and app thru Tit Backup - It restores it after reboot.
Rooted with SuperSU - Id like to uninstall Knox etc but cant?
I had this on the S8 - Is this to do with the Kernel needing to be permissive? Any help would be welcome.
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I think you have no R/W access to the system. Did you flash the no-verity-opt-encrypt patch when rooting? Download root essentials from the play store. There you have the option to mount system R/W. After enabling that removing the system apps should work.
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Thanks... Completely slipped my mind about the RW access
I'll give it a go
Nope didnt work - Trying to delete anything of the system partition doesnt go anywhere
Solution I found for my Galaxy S7 was to use /system/app mover available from F-Droid.Org
Move apps first to be User apps, reboot and you can uninstall them.
Judging by the number of Thanks on this thread, I can see that problems with apps have been an issue with rooted Tab S3s for quite some time.
The problems I am having are actually the reverse, however; whenever I delete system apps my device becomes all but soft-bricked (Android strips me of many user privileges).
Makes me sick for a device I paid $500 for and own.
Now this is for a recent root "professionally" performed just the other day by OneClickRoot using Magisk.
Having said that, I would suggest that anyone having difficulty removing apps really doesn't want to experience the consequences of what happens when you do.
So far OneClickRoot has been MIA as far as providing assistance for an improperly performed root that voided my warranty and which I cannot use.
But what they do not know (yet) is that I screen recorded the sessions while they had remote access to my PC and were rooting my device. I haven't yet investigated whether there are newer files they could have used, but I do know that I was prompted to update Magisk on my device almost immediately afterward.
It does seem clear that Android came out with some kind of a patch that thwarted the plan. And it was seriously harrowing.
Anyway, with the guidance of the screen recordings I was able to do some experimenting with app removal and unroot/reroot at my leisure.
It didn't take much in the way of app removal to throw the system into a state of angst like I've never seen (I rooted my Galaxy S3 phone a long time ago on my own and it went peacefully and without incident). I never once touched [removed] a single core system file on this S3 tablet (of course, that may be understating it; apps like Chrome could be considered to contain core system files - after all, it is an Android). I also did not remove Google Play Services or Google Play because I kinda had a hunch.
Incidentally, I used ES File Explorer to remove the apps. A decent reputation with Google. Downloaded with Yalp Store. (After removing the apps, some time later I went back to the root section of ES and got a notification that said "Sorry. That feature is not available on this device.")
At the moment I am back in re-rooted state and experimenting with an app disabler/freezer. So far so good. It's interesting to see what I haven't been able to disable - Chrome being one of them. The others (Music, Movies, Maps, Hangouts, OneDrive, etc. were disabled without incident). I'm wondering if this experiment is demonstrating which apps I can safely remove with the root.
Oh, I disabled Google Text-to-Speech and once in a while I get a feeble notification alerting me that it has stopped which is fine by me. I'm sick of them stalking me all over the Internet let alone logging my every keystroke.
Anyway, that's my story and the current forecast where uprooting is concerned.
I looked at oneClickRoot. It wants access to all your accounts. Why does it need that? That scares me. I also don't see how it would root your device without tripping Knox. Maybe it doesn't, I don't know.
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jd1639 said:
I looked at oneClickRoot. It wants access to all your accounts. Why does it need that? That scares me. I also don't see how it would root your device without tripping Knox. Maybe it doesn't, I don't know.
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JD, sometimes roots trip Knox and sometimes they don't. They didn't advise me of that either way.
I'm not sure why they want access to all your accounts. Maybe it's just because a root requires total access to your device.
There's nothing you don't see while they are performing the root so I don't think it's much to be concerned about.
Picking up where I left off with my original post, I soon discovered Terminal Debloater developed by Magisk (a means of removing apps systemless-ly!).
OneClickRoot didn't advise me of that method (and still hasn't gotten back with me, incidentally). Of course, they do make money selling extended support packages (and it's worth noting that they didn't flash TWRP to my device either).
I thought if Terminal Debloater didn't do it nothing would. And it didn't work, even though I didn't uninstall Google, Google Play Services or Google Play.
I mean, it got rid of the apps just like ES File Explorer did, but my device once again became nearly unusable (unable to open Google Play Store or Amazon Appstore among other features of my device). But systemless-ly? Not so sure about that.
Resetting the device remedied the problem(s) and reinstalled everything without requiring a re-root (minus 3rd party apps that I already had installed, of course). I had forgotten about the previous backup that I had performed with Titanium Backup but it was like 4am and I was getting foggy, you know - there have been a lot of late nights lately. My device was still rooted after the reset and I was able to reinstall Magisk Manager with an .apk (Google Play Store banished it). Maybe that's what they meant by systemless uninstall - the relative ease of reinstall.
So I think that after all of this experimentation it is fair to say that unless you have goals other than uninstalling meaningless stuff like that withTV app it isn't going to work out. And for an app freezer/disabler to work properly you need a root. And an app/freezer disabler won't disable them all. I still have a lot of Google apps it won't disable like Gmail, Chrome, Photos, Movies & TV and Google Play Music (although I realize most people aren't interested in disabling Google apps). I could probably safely remove YouTube, Maps and Drive (I was only able to partially able freeze the former but I was able to fully freeze the latter). There are others I could probably uninstall too - OneDrive, other Microsoft apps, Weather, etc. - it would just seem pointless though since they are already frozen. So maybe freezing is a good enough reason to root for those who only want minimal removal of apps and still want Google where the sun doesn't shine.
Anything that can be frozen can probably be safely removed with the root but I haven't experimented with that. It might require a 4th reset and/or reroot. But you will never have total freedom to do what you want.
As far as OneClickRoot, it is fortunate that I paid with PayPal because I am going to file a claim based on many factors. They asked me why I was rooting my device and I told them I was going to remove apps. They didn't advise me on that either way. They didn't tell me that the root would trip Knox. It says on their Galaxy Tab S3 page, "After the rooting process is completed and done, you may start installing carrier-blocked applications" "you may positively eliminate preinstalled crapware" and "Remember that after rooting, you are the administrator of your own phone so have the freedom to do anything you want with your phone." If they made the mistake of referring to a phone on their tablet page then that's their bad. I do not yet qualify to post links on this forum, but you can find the page by using DuckDuckGo to search "Galaxy S3 Tab OneClickRoot" and it's the first search result).
I paid them $60 total to root my device; the first time I thought I removed too many apps and that it was my fault so I paid them an additional $20 to re-root it. Turns out it really wasn't my fault at all because with the 2nd root I uninstalled even fewer apps than the first time (and like I said before, never any core system apps or even any major android apps like Google Play Services). I figured out how to unroot it on my own (with firmware files from SamMobile and flashed with Odin) and then screen recorded the 2nd root.
At the end of the day I'm not sure it's really worth it to root just to remove a few apps and void your warranty if you're still covered (I have only owned my device for just over a week).
But then, not everyone has the same objectives I do. I am completely crazy serious when it comes to my privacy. One might ask why I even purchased this device and it's because it affords customizations that Apple doesn't (or so I thought). But I can still run Linux. And, of course, I have no intent of setting up a Samsung account or a real Google account. I bought a cheap sim card from TracFone to use with my old S3 phone to set up a fake Google account (because of course you have to have a phone to register a Google account). My TracFone account is under a fake name, my phone number has a Chicago area code (I live across the country), my Google account will be under a fake name and I use a paid VPN on my device(s) using a Chicago IP address. They deserve it.
All just so I can get a few paid - but important - apps. If it weren't for that, Google account be damned. I sold my black little soul to Amazon a long time ago but their selections are limited.
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Oh, and for those who aren't rooted and simply want to uninstall system apps for more space, you can force 3rd party apps to SD by enabling that feature in Developer Options.
Go to Settings > About tablet > Model number > Software information
Click on Build number 7 times. That will activate Developer Options which you will then find at the bottom of the column on the left side.
Click on Developer Options and scroll way down to Force Allow Apps on External.
Then scroll up to Running Services and observe what's going on behind the scenes. Especially if you have denied (and even frozen) location permissions, deactivated bluetooth, limited background processes to "none" and deactivated automatic updates. They will grab at ANYTHING - your bluetooth, phone, etc. You can stop the processes but they still keep coming back. It's fun to give them an occasional punt anyway.
I did manage to finally disable blutooth but that *had* to be frozen. Disabling in settings wasn't good enough. Google Location Service cannot be stopped ever.
I should set up the fake Google account on my S3 phone with the Chicago IP address and then play Ingress in my real neighborhood just to taunt them.
Blue team!!!!
You do know there is a root method by ashyx in the development section, right. Also, I'd just freeze apps with tibu. That way if your system starts to freeze you can just unfreeze them.
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jd1639 said:
You do know there is a root method by ashyx in the development section, right. Also, I'd just freeze apps with tibu. That way if your system starts to freeze you can just unfreeze them.
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Hi JD.
No, I didn't know about ashyx. Thanks for that though. I might end up looking into it. I'm wondering if a root is just a root, though? There are a couple of apps that have given me errors that said "Your SU binary is functional but might not work reliably on some Android 4.3+ ROMs. If you encounter any issues in TB, please try SuperSU instead." I got that error from Titanium Backup today and I think also from Malwarebytes the other day.
So I'm wondering if uninstalling Magisk and installing SuperSU instead might make a difference.
I reallly have no clue. I'm going to try it though. As a last resort I will probably try re-rooting. Have you used ashyx? If so, were you able to remove apps without a hassle?
Also, is that your Porsche? Nice . . . . . if you're in Minnesota, bet you can't wait until June lol.
I'm from the Midwest orignally - I guess it was kind of a rough winter, no? I know last winter was.
You'll get the same message with supersu as magisk in TB. It's not an issue. And, yes, I use @ashyx method for root. It's worked for all firmwares so far, but I'm almost sure it won't (twrp) if Samsung ever gives us Oreo. But I have confidence in ashyx that he'll modify it so it will, he's the man!
jd1639 said:
You'll get the same message with supersu as magisk in TB. It's not an issue. And, yes, I use @ashyx method for root. It's worked for all firmwares so far, but I'm almost sure it won't (twrp) if Samsung ever gives us Oreo. But I have confidence in ashyx that he'll modify it so it will, he's the man!
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Hi JD. Long time no see. Or so it seems.
My head has actually been far removed from the Tab this past week. I actually had my S7 rooted just a couple of days before the Tab and so I have been juggling both devices. I think I'm about to pop a blood vessel. I honestly would have rooted them myself but there was just too much scattered information and since I was dealing with two devices I had OCR do it.
But anyway, I haven't been much invested in the Tab over the past several days. I broke a few too many green antennae again and bricked my S7 for the third time. Whenever I have fresh firmware flashed to my device I get those uninstall apps and become possessed. At least I can reinstall the firmware and re-root on my own now.
Things sure have changed since the S3 (phone) and the Galaxy Tab Pro (which was introduced before app permissions became an option). I never did root that device. I guess that's about 4 years old now.
I do believe my S7 was rooted with the ashyx method. I saw a file or something somewhere. It is easier to remove system files on that device but more complicated as there are so many more of them being a phone and all.
As far as Oreo . . . . .ugh. Something about the potential for crush injuries doesn't seem really appealing. I can imagine the "system" is only going to become more oppressive and Google more invasive. Right now I'm still trying to figure out wtf Nougat is.
Besides, Nougat will be a good OS for a long, long time. The OS on my S3 phone [Lollipop?] is still adequate. And developers are still trying to perfect apps for rooted Nougat OS's. A lot of stuff is still buggy.
I'm not *quite* as fanatical about privacy on my S7 since my phone number was tied to my Google account long before I decided to stop being lazy about privacy issues. But once I get the paid apps I need I immediately freeze Google Play Services and Google Play Store. And before I use the store I remove my SD card before they can rape my app settings and data. And, of course, I pay for a Google Play gift card with cash. It's extremely difficult going to these extremes but I am still new at it on my devices so it will just take time to adjust. I went through the same grief with my PCs but it's all good now. My banks and creditors no longer hassle me when I use private browsing and a VPN when I log in. Google will never give in though. Ever. And that really is something scary.
I actually did acquire Windows 10 Enterprise for both of my PCs after many fruitless and failed attempts at tweaking my registry. Now I have full access to Group Policy Editor and live in relative privacy [and peace] where Microsoft is concerned. Wish android had a Group Policy Editor.
Anyway, as far as where I left off with app uninstalls on my Tab, I had only just flashed the stock firmware on that before I bricked my S7 so there are still what I call "secondary" Google apps like Maps, Gmail, Movies & TV, etc. Those are frozen, however. It still might be a couple of days before I get to uninstalling those but I will update. I have no life. I need to come up for air lol. It is important to me to post about this experience; I guess I feel somewhat like an activist in a sense. Google just runs roughshod over everything and everyone like they OWN, you know? And they don't. They don't own me, or you, or our devices. And so this is for people - not "advertising IDs" - who feel similarly and don't want Google invading their devices and private information.
Umm . . . . I know there are a lot of individuals who want to root their Tab S3s and I may at some point post instructions on how to do that using Magisk (it really is simple) but right now I just feel that it would be unethical to do so until I can figure out which apps are truly safe to remove without bricking. And, of course, I can post instructions on how to flash the stock firmware as well.
Thanks for the info about the messages, btw. Still trying to figure out how to disable those. There has to be an .obb tweak somewhere for that. As I recall, the primary reason I rooted my S3 (phone) to begin with was to disable the shutter sound on my camera! And that required an .obb tweak. For the life of me I can't remember what app I used to accomplish that.
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When I get a message telling me that something I don't want has stopped working, it would at least be nice to see a bow on top of that bubble with some streamers and balloons in the background.
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The Battle Of Jorte.
The night before last I was making some tweaks to my S7. I had just finished up purchasing some apps I needed from the Play Store and had refrozen that app and Google Play Services. Some time before I had previously installed a day-planning type app called Jorte.
All of a sudden I started getting notifications in my notification area that said "Jorte will not run unless you enable Google Play Services." I tolerated this for a while and then finally thought, "Ok, well, I'll just uninstall Jorte and that will put an end to that." (I didn't really want Jorte anymore - I had installed it along with a couple of other day-planning apps I was making comparisons with and had decided on a different one - one that wasn't "dependent" on Google Play Services.)
So I uninstalled Jorte and realized that there was another app that I forgot to purchase. When I went back into Application Manager to reactivate Google Play Services and Google Play Store they were gone! Well! I wasn't sure if that was a good or a bad thing. I opened my App disabler app and sure enough - they were still installed on my phone, just hidden. How trite! How petty! I was furious.
I decided at that point that I had all the paid apps I needed.
One would THINK that an ETHICAL company without nefarious intentions would take the position that if an individual isn't using their services that they would be more than HAPPY that they be disabled especially if they are "FREE". After all, why waste resources?? To whose benefit is it to leave Google Play Services running in the background when it isn't needed?
I did something then that hadn't yet dawned on me. I have an app disabler that allows one to disable all of the services associated with that app (specifically Google Play Services). Uninstalling "GPS" bricked my device before so that wasn't an option. So I went offline and disabled my mobile data (also something I hadn't done before) and went into the app disabler (which I will not name [yet]) and started disabling everything with the word "sync", "collection", forwarding", "uploading", "geolocation", "account", "transfer", "advertiser", "notification", "analytics", "indexing", "listener", "secret", "logger", "metadata", "reporter", "credentials", "metrics", "watcher", "sharing", "monitor", "phenotype?!", "detection", "stats", "supervision", "VACUUM". . . .amongst several others. (Are you guys getting alarmed yet?.) Out of 276 services I disabled 105. I had to disable them one by one because the app would stop each and every time.
I also disabled 4 out of 6 services belonging to Google Services Framework (which were all that the app disabler were able to freeze).
All of these actions effectively disabled Google from running on my device as observed from Running Services in Developer Options (that, of course, combined with disabling/uninstalling Samsung apps and associated services). Staying offline and disabling mobile data prevented my actions during this process from being reported (and interfered with).
So far over the past couple of days all has been quiet. No more '"________ will not run without Google Play Services" or "________ has stopped" notifications, no more Google running in the background and helping itself to my data like a smorgasbord.
I attempted to apply these same settings to my Tab S3 and it didn't fly. I had to disable ALL of the subservices associated with Google Play Services and I also uninstalled Google Services Framework entirely.
That debacle is for a different post.
I want to add that most any app can be uninstalled on the Tab S3 once the disabling of Samsung, Google Play Services and Google Play is achieved. Prior to this, for whatever reason I had a great deal of difficulty uninstalling Chrome and Google Play Music. If you think really, really hard in advance about all of the paid apps that you want that are critical to your root and whatever other paid apps you want, you can install them and ditch Google Play Services. They got their money and earned what they deserved. There is no reason to keep Google services continuously running in the background. You can get top notch apps that don't depend on them. I have My Backup Pro, Servicely, SD Maid, an APK extractor, a couple of really good disablers/uninstallers, ES File Explorer, Root Explorer, etc. Really consider your privacy - your data is important. Would you let a stranger rifle through drawers at your house? Even if Google has been collecting your data for years, all hope is not lost. You have many years ahead of you. Most of the data they have collected becomes obsolete over time and they don't need to keep collecting it. There are many, many apps that are not dependent on Google Play Services. There's an app called F-Droid that has an .apk installation file that can be directly downloaded from the Internet and which offers LOTS of great apps. They have an app called Yalp Store that shows you which apps Google Play Store offers that don't depend on Google Play Services and you can filter those results. You can even download and install them manually. The developers of F-Droid are privacy-conscious and all of the apps that they offer are geared with that in mind.
I paid a lot of money for my devices - what, $1300 overall? The manufacturers are not entitled to more than that, especially if I have paid for additional apps. I do have a dummy YouTube account - I consider it free cloud storage for my videos in exchange for the the data they have stolen from me over the years (I've got some cool videos, too - I'd link to my channel but it would blow my cover).
To achieve all of this you will need to start fresh - uninstall your apps, remove your SD card, clean your device really well, wipe your device and close your Samsung account. You don't need a Samsung account to run your device. You can decline both Samsung and Google services at setup but all of those choices are meaningless because they take what they want anyway.
There may be a few sacrifices that may be a dealbreaker to some such as Facebook, but there are a few apps that work around that limitation such as Tinfoil for Facebook. You may also be able to log into Facebook using a privacy web browser. I have Firefox on my devices using a VPN, Privacy Browsing and multiple privacy plugins and it works just fine for every website I have visited (I can't speak for Facebook, though, because I don't use it (not for privacy reasons, though - I have unresolved mixed feelings about it). It should be fine to use with a web browser although some websites do badger you to use their app. You can try it though before uninstalling the Facebook app and see how it goes. Granted it won't be as convenient but you can bookmark it and still have access. Twitter is dependent on Google Play. As I was writing this paragraph I just found a highly rated app called Metal for Facebook & Twitter which isn't dependent on Google and which allows you to access both of them. No ads, gets you notifications from Facebook, supports Orbot/Tor, etc. Sounds excellent.
So there's some stuff to consider.
Between both of my devices I had become really mentally/emotionally stressed and exhausted and had a short but intense cry yesterday. I would have benefited from a longer one.
Last night I woke up to discover that Google had added another hundred or so services to the Google Play Services app on my S7 which brought the number up to 300+. (As an aside, the same thing happened on my Tab S3 several days ago.) I'm not sure if I had wi-fi or mobile data turned on when it happened or both - I had been turning them both on and off intermittently throughout the day. All I can think is that Verizon must have been sharing data. It happened on the S3 for a different reason and I caught that while it was happening.
I thought that I was using Verizon simply for a signal. I don't use their cloud and I don't sync any data to their servers in any other manner. Come to discover there were a couple of settings I overlooked.
Google and Verizon are in bed together - I did discover that much. I really did want to maintain a location with Verizon so I could at least locate my device if I were ever to lose it; they charge enough and I can be incredibly absentminded at times, like using the calculator on my phone while shopping, lying it down on a shelf when picking something up and walking away. But when I went to Verizon's website to see if they offered such a service I was redirected straight to Google. They're kidding, right?
Google is so unbelievably insidious. You really don't know until you try to escape.
I'm a quiet, introverted person - all I want is my privacy, my freakin' Kindle app and a few simple others. And I WOULD get a Kindle, but even the best one only records video in 720p! But no - 4k or no 4k, I'm not about to curl up in a hollow log with a Kindle.
The S3 has been turned off for the past couple of days; both devices present challenges of their own. The S7 is worse I think with Verizon in the mix. My S7 has turned out to be the guinea pig it seems.
I know how to re-root the S7 if I brick it again but I'll spare myself the hassle. I paid One Click Root for the 6-month extended support package and I'll make them work for it. They pretty much dissed me on the S3 so they deserve it.
Right now the S7 is stable (and functional) again - I was up for hours last night after my ghastly, half-conscious discovery disabling another hundred Google Play subservices. Right now I'm backing up to My Backup Pro's cloud and after that I think I'm going to go offline and uninstall The Framework and Google Play Services. Surely Google can't coerce Verizon to cut off data services to a loyal customer.
A few updates and and an apology. . . .but not in that order. Ummm. . . .I realize that this whole Google privacy thing is a touchy subject and I'm really sorry for having brought it up here (kind of, you know?). I mean, in the sense that this is a really helpful place for what it is and I do understand something about getting knocked back in Google search rankings. I'd really hate to see something like that happen.
So this will be my last post on this topic.
This whole endeavor has really been a nightmare - a real war and I have lost tons of sleep. I'm amazed that I haven't hard-bricked my devices. One day I re-rooted my S3 three times. Yesterday I re-rooted my S7 twice. There is no compromising with Google. None. I thought that I could whittle it down to just not using any of their apps, you know? What other business do they have running data collection or location services on my device? I don't have a connected Samsung or Google account, I declined app usage data, location services and diagnostic usage at setup. I disabled all of those plus everything else that could be disabled in settings and everything possible in permissions. Yet settings keep being switched back on which is the whole reason I rooted my devices. THEN after I root, I install these 3rd party freezing apps and watch Google behind the scenes with their 380 hidden services going to town collecting all sorts of data - Bluetooth, radios, geofencing, storage. . . .it's absolutely unreal. They hide and disable apps I paid to 3rd parties on independent websites. . . .I just don't even know where to begin. I started getting screenshots of all of this and they started deleting and disabling those.
Anyway, I don't know how much longer I have now to return my S3 to Amazon but it might be going back in a pine box. It's defective. I mean, seriously. The permissions keep turning themselves off. Inherently defective perhaps, but defective nonetheless. I've had the S7 since November so I don't know what Verizon can do for me but I think California has some laws.
Anyway, I'm in the midst of preparing some killer videos on rooting and flashing stock firmware to both the Tab S3 and S7 and I will come back and post YouTube links to those when they're done. They will no doubt be immediately removed unless Google finds them lucrative enough to keep, and if they are removed I will PAY Vimeo to host (and protect) them.
Oh - heh - before I forget: YES, you CAN remove every single Google app from your S3 EXCEPT for Chrome. It's part of the infrastructure, man. You will brick your device every time you try to remove it. But remember this - and this is CRUCIAL - install an app freezer (better yet, two), then turn off wi-fi making sure to disable auto-reconnect because everything you do is transmitted and they will brick you. You don't want to clue them into anything. Then use your best judgement to freeze and disable every possible permission before you start Also reboot after every app uninstall (or two). It takes a lonnnng time depending on how many you remove but trust me on this. If you intend to maintain a Google account you should be all good.
I acually use TITANIUM BACKUP
for freezing , u freezing & uninstalling system application's:good:
JackieBlue said:
A few updates and and an apology. . . .but not in that order. Ummm. . . .I realize that this whole Google privacy thing is a touchy subject and I'm really sorry for having brought it up here (kind of, you know?). I mean, in the sense that this is a really helpful place for what it is and I do understand something about getting knocked back in Google search rankings. I'd really hate to see something like that happen.
So this will be my last post on this topic.
This whole endeavor has really been a nightmare - a real war and I have lost tons of sleep. I'm amazed that I haven't hard-bricked my devices. One day I re-rooted my S3 three times. Yesterday I re-rooted my S7 twice. There is no compromising with Google. None. I thought that I could whittle it down to just not using any of their apps, you know? What other business do they have running data collection or location services on my device? I don't have a connected Samsung or Google account, I declined app usage data, location services and diagnostic usage at setup. I disabled all of those plus everything else that could be disabled in settings and everything possible in permissions. Yet settings keep being switched back on which is the whole reason I rooted my devices. THEN after I root, I install these 3rd party freezing apps and watch Google behind the scenes with their 380 hidden services going to town collecting all sorts of data - Bluetooth, radios, geofencing, storage. . . .it's absolutely unreal. They hide and disable apps I paid to 3rd parties on independent websites. . . .I just don't even know where to begin. I started getting screenshots of all of this and they started deleting and disabling those.
Anyway, I don't know how much longer I have now to return my S3 to Amazon but it might be going back in a pine box. It's defective. I mean, seriously. The permissions keep turning themselves off. Inherently defective perhaps, but defective nonetheless. I've had the S7 since November so I don't know what Verizon can do for me but I think California has some laws.
Anyway, I'm in the midst of preparing some killer videos on rooting and flashing stock firmware to both the Tab S3 and S7 and I will come back and post YouTube links to those when they're done. They will no doubt be immediately removed unless Google finds them lucrative enough to keep, and if they are removed I will PAY Vimeo to host (and protect) them.
Oh - heh - before I forget: YES, you CAN remove every single Google app from your S3 EXCEPT for Chrome. It's part of the infrastructure, man. You will brick your device every time you try to remove it. But remember this - and this is CRUCIAL - install an app freezer (better yet, two), then turn off wi-fi making sure to disable auto-reconnect because everything you do is transmitted and they will brick you. You don't want to clue them into anything. Then use your best judgement to freeze and disable every possible permission before you start Also reboot after every app uninstall (or two). It takes a lonnnng time depending on how many you remove but trust me on this. If you intend to maintain a Google account you should be all good.
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Watch out the Russians are coming too.
If you removed bloatware from your phone tell me do you see any difference in speed and performance of your phone because I am not really sure is it worth trying. Thank you for replyes!!
bartold3ak said:
If you removed bloatware from your phone tell me do you see any difference in speed and performance of your phone because I am not really sure is it worth trying. Thank you for replyes!!
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AllShare FileShare Service
ANT + DUT
ANT Hal Services
ANT Radio Services
Ant+ Plugin Services
Assistant menu
BeaconManager
Briefing
CarmodeStub
ChocoEuKor
Com.sec.android.app.minimode
CoolEuKor
Diagmonagent
Dictionnaire
Drive
Emergencymanagerservice
Emergencyprovider
Galaxy apps
Galaxy apps widget
Gmail
Google +
Hangouts
Health Service
HwModuleTest
Kies Application BnR
Music
OneDrive
OneNote
RoseEUKor
S Beam
S Finder
S Health
S Voice
Samsung Galaxy
Samsung MirrorLink
Samsung push service
Samsung sbrowser
Samsung setupwizard
Samsung snote
Screen Mirroring
and more..
Hi,
Here is my debloat solution.
DEBLOAT_Script_Samsung_A520F_7.0_Nougat_v1
I use it with TWRP recovery.
More speed or performance doesn't matter for me. But I have more space and better battery.
Anyoine maybe got a "save-list" which Bloatware could be deactivated via package disabler pro? I have no root access (KNOX warranty....) so i could only deactivate.
sincotan said:
Hi,
Here is my debloat solution.
DEBLOAT_Script_Samsung_A520F_7.0_Nougat_v1
I use it with TWRP recovery.
More speed or performance doesn't matter for me. But I have more space and better battery.
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For android M or just for android N sir?
fendytrancers89 said:
For android M or just for android N sir?
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It's not tested on M.
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It's not tested on M.
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Your script includes MM AND N
first thing u need is ROOTED DEVICE.
as far as i know, deleting some of system app will not harm your device. i have tested it with my a3.
i deleted all knox app, all samsung stock app which i dont need, unused google things like hangout, google app itself, google search. u can also delete Galaxy Apps, but when you want to update the app which gave you a notification for an update, u cant.
i deleted it, because i dont need it. many, there are so many useless things from samsung, and im done with it.
for a safe step, u can 'of course' delete :
1. daydream
2.screensaver
3.weather
4.video
5.knox
6.secure folder
7.all samsung healthy apps
8.live wallpaper
9.themes
10.my samsung
11.file explorer
and many.
after i rooted my a3, i deleted almost 200mb bloatware. and it (dont know for sure) doesn't give any differences on speed, performance, or battery life. just faster when u open apps section on phone setting
sm-a520w oreo rooted and cautious debloat
Here's my list. Obviously you will have to make up your own mind as to what you want. I am waiting for hades to be fully functional on my lame "w" variant.
I did twrp, magisk and INSTALLED IN RECOVERY the debloater downloaded from magisk. Still running pretty much everything I used to such as email, playstore and phone/messaging and a game.
Installed a terminal emulator to run the module... called... terminal emulator but was told to try termux. Get Termux if you prefer larger text. Not a power user by any means so both work great for me.
I don't think you will want to uninstall much more than 3 or 4 apps at once. I just knocked off families like the knox clan, facebook clowns but for google i knocked them off in pairs so they could watch themselves get eaten. My first successful root involved titanium and I just went nuts and was not rebooting and by about the 20th app my screen did some neat swirly effect and I think I saw the screen throw files at me. Then I got a message that root was removed. Oh well.
Don't be signed into anything that you're uninstalling might be important. If you're on the W variant you'll notice 2 programs not listed with FIDO in the name. Be careful because I got locked out deleting one or two of those and it probably was also a bad idea having a pin on the lockscreen because that was most likely what I damaged. Luckily I easily fixed it in twrp. Just do the obvious ones first if you are new.
You will see two Sim Services if you go to remove it but I only did one. I picked the first one and left the one underneath it. They will be numbered different on your screen unless you do it in the same order as me, which you won't. So, when I did it they were 66 and 67. I chose 66 and did a reboot. Yeah the other one is on the list in the terminal still, but I don't get the icon anymore anywhere so I was rather pleased and just left it like that for now. It is now seen as sim toolkit in your apps in system view. I don't want to even talk about it in case it hears me and puts an icon in the app drawer.
What did I notice? Phone is definitely a little bit quicker. By a little I mean you may not notice if you use animations. RAM is definitely happy with the weight loss and needs a new wardrobe. It sometimes boots up around 2 but will rest around 1.5 if idle. It never did that before and obviously this device is not being sold and used properly with all this crap on it and when you don't take these measures, well there ain't much room for more crap so might as well get an S9 and abuse that sucker until it runs worse than a device years younger. I will add more as I find out what exactly my plans are and more importantly after fully understanding what I am removing. If you want to follow someone's list that somehow has so much removed it doesn't make sense... it's because they have apps to use in place for what they want. If that is appealing just tell me what app you crashed and burned on and when you're sick of 7 or so fixings grab a custom ROM
Keep lock screen security off and sign out/detach yourself from apps as much as possible. You can delete the keyboard with a current working one but I put it back as the message app lost smiley faces
I use Virgin and deleted their useless crap. Some weird rogers stuff I knew was there but a little old for a recent update...?
Encrypted Sim? I hope not. Do Enterprise SIm/Vpn together and power off. Take out your SIM and power on. I just waited until it was done the 30-60 second warm up and put the SIM back in and carried on. If you don't do this you'll want to do it when the phone reboots and chokes and.... just take it out.
Some apps will downgrade and need to be uninstalled (like they should be) in your apps after reboot and others may linger in the debloater. Just do'em again.
Not the order I did but as it was exported and from 1 and 2 menu options
You can uninstall Dictionary NOT User Dictionary. Settings will not function at all. Instant fc. User Dictionary can be disabled though. I am sure it can be done but other apps not listed here like contacts most likely need to go with it.
Facebook
Facebook_App_Manager
App_Widget
Basic_Daydreams
Briefing
Drive
Gmail
My_Account
My_Benefits
Weather
Weather_Stub
YouTube
CarmodeStub
Default_Print_Service
Duo
Photo_Screensavers
Print_Service_Recommendation_Service
Print_Spooler
RogersNHL_August-2016
videotron-usercentre-plus-2.0-16-stub-release-aligned-final
Texture_rogers
Telus_MyAccount_Virtual_PreLoad_Singed_May10
spotify-generic-20160122-signed
Skype
ChocoEUKor
CoolEUKor
Foundation
RoseEUKor
TV
Samsung_MirrorLink_1.1
Game_Optimizing_Service
Netco-Sports_J5-JDM_Stub_Android_2016-01-22
Netco-Sports_J5-JDQ_Stub_Android_2016-01-22
FidoMyAccount_2.4_build_342
MyBell_Mobile_4.1.2
MyRogers_3.7.2
mySASKTEL_stub_app-release_2017_08_22
Google_Calendar_Sync
Google_Contacts_Sync
Google_Play_Movies
Google_Play_Music
Google_Text-to-speech_Engine
Dual_Messenger
Favourite_Contacts
Dictionary
Android_System_WebView
ANT+_Plugins_Service
ANT_+_DUT
ANT_HAL_Service
SysScope
Link_sharing
EasyOneHand
Autofill_with_Samsung_Pass
Bookmark_Provider
Smart_Switch_Agent
Voice_Assistant
Universal_switch
Beaming_Service
HandwritingService
GearManagerStub
Enterprise_Sim_Pin_Service
Enterprise_VPN_Services
Knox_Enrollment_Service
KnoxAttestationAgent
Android_Easter_Egg
BBCAgent
SecurityLogAgent
slocation
SIM_Toolkit (will be listed first. Never tried both)
Facebook_App_Installer
Facebook_Services
Word
Excel
French_Language_Pack
OneDrive
MShopAndroidPhoneApp-8.9.93.0-jackDaniels-release-releasesigned wtf?
PowerPoint
LinkedIn
Galaxy_Essentials_Widget
Game_Launcher
Game_Tools
Finder
Google
Samsung_Health
Health_Service
upday
Secure_Folder
ANT_Radio_Service
Samsung_Pay
Samsung_Galaxy_Friends I have no idea what this is but uninstalled because of its name
Customization_Service
StoryService
Blue_light_filter
Color_adjustment
FaceService not facebook related and I never used any security or accessibility features so at your own risk.
Fingerprint
HwModuleTest
Magnifier
KLMS_Agent
KnoxCore
KnoxVpnPacProcessor
SKMSAgentService
UIBCVirtualSoftkey
SmartFaceService stupid
Samsung_Pass fail
Work_profile_setup
Voice_Service_Framework
Voice_wake-up good night
Voice_service
Find_My_Mobile just don't lose it. if you need this then sure, lose it
Workspace
This is how i did it unrooted easy!
https://www.xda-developers.com/uninstall-carrier-oem-bloatware-without-root-access/
Is there a way to debloat it without a script.. maybe an app like package disabler. I upgrade package disabler but it doesnt work anymore. I use oreo stock no root...
Sent from my SM-A520F using Tapatalk
I just helped my mother disabling an awful lot of bloat. Seems like I lost the battery section in Settings along the way. I still think it's worth it to be rid of the whole CM thing. I made a shortcut to the battery optimization via Tasker and I'm now looking to do the same for background processes.
Edit: It appears I disabled com.samsung.android.sm.devicesecurity by mistake. Now I have everything but the ****ty CM app optimizer and can forget about the shortcuts. Perfect!
Now I only have to figure out why I'm getting "All apps associated with this action have been turned off, blocked or not installed"-popup when booting. If it is home screen related it might have something to do with me removing a default app which used to show up in the farthest left slide of the screen. Never paid any attention to it so I'm pretty clueless as to what it may be.
I googled this topic extensively and got nowhere, maybe because I "googled" it, LOL.
Chrome for Android discontinued bottom navigation bar, the best feature on tall phones and on mobile browsers imo. I uninstalled update on my Note 8 and got back to Chrome 64, put nav bar back on the bottom in flags.
This only seems to last for couple of hours, after which Chrome updates itself again without my permission. First it will show red update arrow for some time, then the arrow is gone and Chrome is updated.
I have auto-updates switched off. I pressed 3 dots in Playstore - Chrome, no auto-updates are selected. The last one was stupid advise from internet, as pressing that enables/disables all updates, not for specific app. It is the same as disabling it in settings.
On google forums in 2017 users complained about it, moderator was pretending to help and in the end he said "this is now resolved". Maybe it was for a little while.
I don't want to use other browser, this has all my auto-fill and bookmarks and it's much better on the phone than on the mac.
I don't want to disable Play Store either.
Is there Chrome mod apk that has auto-updates disabled or is there a way to really completely disable Chrome auto updates without root?
I'm surprised users aren't complaining. I'm surprised this isn't talked about on social media and in the press. Even if that was in their T&C and Privacy, I feel like they just showed us middle finger and I don't trust google at this stage more than facebook.
Please advise.
1. Me I have had almost every kind of phone you can think of form early palms, blackberries, Sony Ericsson P900, Nokia N9 (One of my all-time favorites) Surface duo (wanted to love but horrible experience) most of today’s flagships including all the Samsung folds. Got rid of my fold to get the pixel 6 pro mainly because of the camera and I loved it, I had no issues whatsoever. But I didn’t realize how much I would miss the fold and was going to go back to it when Oppo Released the N and it looked like the perfect hardware for me. After much consideration and reading I purchased from a Hong Kong Seller. And have been using for about 3 weeks now. Daily Driver. I absolutely love the phone, the size, the solid feel, great battery life. So far one of my favorite phones, I have used.
2. Once I got the phone, I researched all I could about the small and major quirks.
3. First thing I did was factory reset, the phone once it arrived. (They installed Google Play for me). Wanted to make sure nothing was installed, that I didn’t know about.
4. Easily found and installed the Google Play apk.
5. Next I download Apk Extractor and removed all the Chinese apps, that I could using it. (I didn’t want to use adb commands, fear of removing something needed). All the other leftover Chinese apps I placed in a folder and moved it out the way.
6.The Launcher is no big deal for me, on most of the phones I’ve had, I stuck with the default launcher. (Group text is an issue will discuss that later)
7. Started loading all my apps that I use games, banking etc. (around 250) tested them and everyone of the work. When I got to an app they didn’t display correctly on the open screen, I adjusted through the phone setting no app download.
8. Download new keyboard changed from the Chinese one.
9. Notifications limits, I set my main apps I need notifications from, but what I found was a lot of the social accounts Facebook, etc automatically was added to running in background and notifications and did not go against the limit. All my main apps I set to run in the background and made sure notifications was on and that a sound or vibration was set (the customizations for notifications are a lot) So far, I am notified we notifications come in. because I have a lot of email addresses I use home, work etc. I have always used Blue mail and it only counts as one notification.
10 Group message was a make or break for me, because send and receive a lot of group messages. And I have researched everywhere, tried different apps and no luck. The solution for me and it’s working well.
11. I decided to use Google Voice (I have had a number for years, so I tested it first for couple days) And now has officially ported my number to google voice, I can now get group messages etc. I will keep using until I they update the message issues or swap phone. I saved all my texts using SMS Backup & restore because you can not import the texts into google voice, but you can export them out. I saved all the old text on the new phone using SMS Backup & Restore, because if I need to find an old text it has a search fixture on it.
Conclusion so far, I am very happy with this phone, it’s an amazing piece of work. I know my post was long and for give me if it doesn’t make since. But if you have any questions on my experience just ask and I will do my best to answer.
Me too, this phone Is very good and pleasant to use as a daily driver . I have imaginée this phone before (i used the nec 05e,thé royole
flexpai 1,thé fold1and flold2 and several zflip). A little'more slimmer and lighter would bé perfect...but its ok.
M'y only complaint is about wifi calling with erratic behavior and disconnection ..maynbe a solution will occur..(more accurzte localisation or wiffi setting
i missed...)
grigsby01 said:
1. Me I have had almost every kind of phone you can think of form early palms, blackberries, Sony Ericsson P900, Nokia N9 (One of my all-time favorites) Surface duo (wanted to love but horrible experience) most of today’s flagships including all the Samsung folds. Got rid of my fold to get the pixel 6 pro mainly because of the camera and I loved it, I had no issues whatsoever. But I didn’t realize how much I would miss the fold and was going to go back to it when Oppo Released the N and it looked like the perfect hardware for me. After much consideration and reading I purchased from a Hong Kong Seller. And have been using for about 3 weeks now. Daily Driver. I absolutely love the phone, the size, the solid feel, great battery life. So far one of my favorite phones, I have used.
2. Once I got the phone, I researched all I could about the small and major quirks.
3. First thing I did was factory reset, the phone once it arrived. (They installed Google Play for me). Wanted to make sure nothing was installed, that I didn’t know about.
4. Easily found and installed the Google Play apk.
5. Next I download Apk Extractor and removed all the Chinese apps, that I could using it. (I didn’t want to use adb commands, fear of removing something needed). All the other leftover Chinese apps I placed in a folder and moved it out the way.
6.The Launcher is no big deal for me, on most of the phones I’ve had, I stuck with the default launcher. (Group text is an issue will discuss that later)
7. Started loading all my apps that I use games, banking etc. (around 250) tested them and everyone of the work. When I got to an app they didn’t display correctly on the open screen, I adjusted through the phone setting no app download.
8. Download new keyboard changed from the Chinese one.
9. Notifications limits, I set my main apps I need notifications from, but what I found was a lot of the social accounts Facebook, etc automatically was added to running in background and notifications and did not go against the limit. All my main apps I set to run in the background and made sure notifications was on and that a sound or vibration was set (the customizations for notifications are a lot) So far, I am notified we notifications come in. because I have a lot of email addresses I use home, work etc. I have always used Blue mail and it only counts as one notification.
10 Group message was a make or break for me, because send and receive a lot of group messages. And I have researched everywhere, tried different apps and no luck. The solution for me and it’s working well.
11. I decided to use Google Voice (I have had a number for years, so I tested it first for couple days) And now has officially ported my number to google voice, I can now get group messages etc. I will keep using until I they update the message issues or swap phone. I saved all my texts using SMS Backup & restore because you can not import the texts into google voice, but you can export them out. I saved all the old text on the new phone using SMS Backup & Restore, because if I need to find an old text it has a search fixture on it.
Conclusion so far, I am very happy with this phone, it’s an amazing piece of work. I know my post was long and for give me if it doesn’t make since. But if you have any questions on my experience just ask and I will do my best to answer.
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Useful info here, thank you very much
Thanks for sharing your experience.
The Nokia N9 was one of the greatest phones ever.
And I too love the Oppo Find N.
After rolling with the Asus Padfone seriess for years (used the first gen Padfone for 1.5 years, and killed 3 new Padfone Infinities after that ). After that I had to switch to "boring" Asus Zenfones (had the 3 and 6)...
But now I finally have a fun and special phone again!
The best foldable ever this phone shifted me from iOS back to Android
To share my experience:
- The phone setup was painful and challenging. Reset, Install Playstore (with a Chinese Keyboard), delete and remove apps, Locale2 but now it feels like a normal phone I always use.
- The 5 apps notification limit is challenging. I use a messenger consolidator (Matrix based) so I only use one app there. You will need one for private and one for office email and I also needed one for the galaxy watch. So I had only one remaining. 2FA or Secure Code apps I normally need to load manually, same as credit card pushes.
- Hardware is amazing. Very solid construction. Guess I need to go caseless as the case adds to much bulk for me. But coming from a flip I feel those phones are unbreakable as long as they are closed. Charging speeds are decent (coming from a flip) and battery is holding more than one day in general.
- Software: There are nearly no apps optimized for big screen use. I miss the Kindle app from my surface allowing me to read a book "normally". Watching filmes is ok but you wont have more screen estate than on a S21Ultra by comparison. Fotos, Web is fantastic though. The OS Software is flawless, e.g. splitting screen with 2 Fingers is perfectly implemented. My hope is on Android 13 which is announced for this device in July, It should allow 3rd party developers to optimize their apps in a standard manner working on all foldables.
Generally: Very happy with this device. Caseless it is a one handed device for me and I use it as my only daily driver (except when near water or sand.)
deepsync said:
To share my experience:
- The phone setup was painful and challenging. Reset, Install Playstore (with a Chinese Keyboard), delete and remove apps, Locale2 but now it feels like a normal phone I always use.
- The 5 apps notification limit is challenging. I use a messenger consolidator (Matrix based) so I only use one app there. You will need one for private and one for office email and I also needed one for the galaxy watch. So I had only one remaining. 2FA or Secure Code apps I normally need to load manually, same as credit card pushes.
- Hardware is amazing. Very solid construction. Guess I need to go caseless as the case adds to much bulk for me. But coming from a flip I feel those phones are unbreakable as long as they are closed. Charging speeds are decent (coming from a flip) and battery is holding more than one day in general.
- Software: There are nearly no apps optimized for big screen use. I miss the Kindle app from my surface allowing me to read a book "normally". Watching filmes is ok but you wont have more screen estate than on a S21Ultra by comparison. Fotos, Web is fantastic though. The OS Software is flawless, e.g. splitting screen with 2 Fingers is perfectly implemented. My hope is on Android 13 which is announced for this device in July, It should allow 3rd party developers to optimize their apps in a standard manner working on all foldables.
Generally: Very happy with this device. Caseless it is a one handed device for me and I use it as my only daily driver (except when near water or sand.)
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Hi,
What is this 'messenger consolidator' you are using please?
Thanks,
Simon.
lombrozo said:
Hi,
What is this 'messenger consolidator' you are using please?
Thanks,
Simon.
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I'm using Beeper. It can consolidate Signal, Telegram, Whatsapp, LinkedIn, iMessage, Twitter, Slack and GoogleChat.
deepsync said:
I'm using Beeper. It can consolidate Signal, Telegram, Whatsapp, LinkedIn, iMessage, Twitter, Slack and GoogleChat.
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Ah ok. Beeper is still invite only I think?
I guess so but you can bypass the queue when prepaying for a whole year...
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I guess so but you can bypass the queue when prepaying for a whole year...
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How do I do that?
Register on the waiting list and email [email protected] or tweet them.
I absolutely love this phone and form factor. It's the perfect size.
I've had a pretty easy time of it thanks to a few posts on here and Gadget goddesses videos as well as my own know how. Maybe it was a little cleaner and easier for me than others since I've been using using google voice since before google bought grandcentral and I'm also on T-mobile.
0. Clone my old LG v60 dual screen over using the phone cloaner this thing came with.
1. changed all my app's notification permissions, battery permissions in app management section to ensure notifications
2. added some important apps that I want guaranteed notifications to the auto launch and recent apps manager sections, but so far even the apps that aren't in autolaunch or recent apps seem to be doing ok on notifications. I use tasker to launch my hotspot automatically when I get in my car and have the car connect to it, so I suppose if I really cared I could use tasker to ensure all my apps stay running and notify me. But so far haven't had to.
3. Under apps, under the "associated launch" the "Blocking records" log to figure out which apps were important to support notifications or proper operation of some apps, and then just activated associated launch to those apps that were blocked from launching(launched by other apps in background). For instance, outlook needed to launch the "company portal" app in the background to properly function and also give me notifications on incoming mail. So I jsut activated associated launch for Company portal. I didn't allow associated launch for all apps, as when I really went through the log, there were only a handful of apps I needed to worry about and would rather the rest not able to just get launched in the background to save juice.
4. I set google voice to prioritize wifi and Data. I get crap signal where I live so this is a must. Basically this has always replaced my voice over wifi anyway on all phones I've used past and present. I like taking calls on my desktop as well.
5. I used "Force LTE" app from the playstore to ensure I got 5g connectivity, although I don't think I really need 5g because even on my old tmobile phone, I noticed in the areas I live 5g is slower than 4g lte anyway. This is a known thing on Tmobiles rollout of 5g in rural areas and I'll probably turn off 5g. I'm just mentioning this to let people know 5g on T-Mobile works fine with this phone.
6. activated google assistant using gestures on the main screen
7. deleted all the chinese apps I could without adb, there's 10 I couldn't delete. I'll probably dump those with adb but it hasn't really been an issue. like everyone else I just stuffed them in a folder and hid it away. Although it seems to be important to at least do the updates in the chinese only app store because one of the updates was to the phones native google services libraries, which is required for a lot of stuff to run correctly including biometric face authentication on some apps.
8. replaced the keyboard like everyone else.
9. Installed Google camera for the heck of it. Gcam
Anyway, I'm not hitting any "quirks" or frustrations. This has been a pretty smooth transition. And again, I just feel this thing is the perfect size for chrome "desktop mode" browsing and reading manga and other reading apps.
I've only found one or two out of more than a hundred apps I use that can't be set to full screen in the display section. I suppose having to rotate the phone for some apps is one quirk I've hit, but it's not a big deal to me.
Anyhow good luck owners, and for those thinking about buying it, I give it a good solid yes.
wagz said:
I absolutely love this phone and form factor. It's the perfect size.
I've had a pretty easy time of it thanks to a few posts on here and Gadget goddesses videos as well as my own know how. Maybe it was a little cleaner and easier for me than others since I've been using using google voice since before google bought grandcentral and I'm also on T-mobile.
0. Clone my old LG v60 dual screen over using the phone cloaner this thing came with.
1. changed all my app's notification permissions, battery permissions in app management section to ensure notifications
2. added some important apps that I want guaranteed notifications to the auto launch and recent apps manager sections, but so far even the apps that aren't in autolaunch or recent apps seem to be doing ok on notifications. I use tasker to launch my hotspot automatically when I get in my car and have the car connect to it, so I suppose if I really cared I could use tasker to ensure all my apps stay running and notify me. But so far haven't had to.
3. Under apps, under the "associated launch" the "Blocking records" log to figure out which apps were important to support notifications or proper operation of some apps, and then just activated associated launch to those apps that were blocked from launching(launched by other apps in background). For instance, outlook needed to launch the "company portal" app in the background to properly function and also give me notifications on incoming mail. So I jsut activated associated launch for Company portal. I didn't allow associated launch for all apps, as when I really went through the log, there were only a handful of apps I needed to worry about and would rather the rest not able to just get launched in the background to save juice.
4. I set google voice to prioritize wifi and Data. I get crap signal where I live so this is a must. Basically this has always replaced my voice over wifi anyway on all phones I've used past and present. I like taking calls on my desktop as well.
5. I used "Force LTE" app from the playstore to ensure I got 5g connectivity, although I don't think I really need 5g because even on my old tmobile phone, I noticed in the areas I live 5g is slower than 4g lte anyway. This is a known thing on Tmobiles rollout of 5g in rural areas and I'll probably turn off 5g. I'm just mentioning this to let people know 5g on T-Mobile works fine with this phone.
6. activated google assistant using gestures on the main screen
7. deleted all the chinese apps I could without adb, there's 10 I couldn't delete. I'll probably dump those with adb but it hasn't really been an issue. like everyone else I just stuffed them in a folder and hid it away. Although it seems to be important to at least do the updates in the chinese only app store because one of the updates was to the phones native google services libraries, which is required for a lot of stuff to run correctly including biometric face authentication on some apps.
8. replaced the keyboard like everyone else.
9. Installed Google camera for the heck of it. Gcam
Anyway, I'm not hitting any "quirks" or frustrations. This has been a pretty smooth transition. And again, I just feel this thing is the perfect size for chrome "desktop mode" browsing and reading manga and other reading apps.
I've only found one or two out of more than a hundred apps I use that can't be set to full screen in the display section. I suppose having to rotate the phone for some apps is one quirk I've hit, but it's not a big deal to me.
Anyhow good luck owners, and for those thinking about buying it, I give it a good solid yes.
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Good experience sharing - For me 5G always runs - no need to force. I use macrodroid to force the main apps into background when starting in the morning - so far it works.
At the end the Oppo Find N is the best foldable hardware - for foldables and for Tablets - Android is not fully there yet, mainly apps are just not yet optimized. Let's hope Android 13 is the basis for app developers to jump on the train...
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Good experience sharing - For me 5G always runs - no need to force. I use macrodroid to force the main apps into background when starting in the morning - so far it works.
At the end the Oppo Find N is the best foldable hardware - for foldables and for Tablets - Android is not fully there yet, mainly apps are just not yet optimized. Let's hope Android 13 is the basis for app developers to jump on the train...
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Yeah, I just use the Force LTE app because it looks like they removed the preferred carrier band preference from settings on the find n. On all my other android phones, under mobile networks, there's usually a setting that allows you to pick which bands you want your phone to use. Like I said, 5g is actually slower for me than 4g, so I need a way to basically shutoff 5g when I'm in my home area. So without that setting on the android settings of the phone, I have to rely on an app like Force LTE. There's a lot of discussion on the interwebs about why 5g ends up being slower in some areas, like rural areas, than 4g. So it's something that will eventually get fixed and I won't have to worry about. But I just mentioned it in case someone needed a replacement for that android setting, not that people need it.
I've been using a Find N for about 2 months. I set up mine much like other people on this thread . Background on for almost all apps, auto-launch for main messaging apps, Google keyboard, Google assistant, GPay, default launcher, GCam/default Cam, Brave/Samsung Internet, Gmail/Outlook. I set up apps as full screen or 4:3 if they open sideways (still good to use). For social apps I use regular apps and WebApps too because the WebApps take full advantage of the big display (Instagram, Twitter and Instagram).
I've been playing games on emulators for the past 2-3 weeks (Switch and GameCube) and noticed yesterday that the screen protector on the big display has tiny marks (probably fingernails?). Is it ok to remove the factory screen protector and apply a new one? The marks are tiny and only on the "joystick area" so they don't bother me but I'm gonna eventually sell this in the future and may consider replacing the screen protector.