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In case anyone's interested...
http://content.modaco.net/EPE54BvsERE36B.html
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Can anyone tell us little people what this means?
i think the blue highlighted lines are the changed files
Yeah, do tell in layman terms to us "smallies" ;-)
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White = matching, green = changed.
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Interesting to note a file for AT&T compatability in this build!
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paulobrien said:
Interesting to note a file for AT&T compatability in this build!
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Wonder what that addition does.
jchap2k said:
Wonder what that addition does.
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maybe it support at&t 3g
i can dream
Nobody seem to have noticed that EPE54B is signed with test-keys and ERE36B with release keys...
Are the apk's also not throwing a lot of useless debug output ?
Not running it!
In my experience most of android throws out useless debug crap.
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hjlow said:
maybe it support at&t 3g
i can dream
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Won't happen on the devices released to the public because our radio isn't capable of using the ATT3G bands, but they may be releasing a flavor that's compatible with ATT.
Just a guess.
tokyomonster said:
Won't happen on the devices released to the public because our radio isn't capable of using the ATT3G bands, but they may be releasing a flavor that's compatible with ATT.
Just a guess.
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Couldn't this just be resolved with a radio update from Google. I mean GSM is GSM, it's about receiving the right bandwidth which is controlled by the radio. Unless I am missing something, I believe google could push out an update for the radio that supported both TMO and ATT's 3G bandwidth.
You need the right antennas. Hardware.
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paulobrien said:
You need the right antennas. Hardware.
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That's too bad...
Since we're on the subject...will ATT's radio support TMobile bands?
SiNJiN76 said:
Since we're on the subject...will ATT's radio support TMobile bands?
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No, ATT and t-mobile run their 3G on complete different bands, so there's no compatibility between the two with existing hardware(that I know of).
Of course voice and EDGE will still function fine on the same phone between both carriers, but you'll need a phone that supports the specific bands for the carrier you're intending to use 3G on if you want it to work.
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No, ATT and t-mobile run their 3G on complete different bands, so there's no compatibility between the two with existing hardware(that I know of).
Of course voice and EDGE will still function fine on the same phone between both carriers, but you'll need a phone that supports the specific bands for the carrier you're intending to use 3G on if you want it to work.
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I'm sure he was just pulling your leg... no one's stupid enough to ask that question when it's been answered repeatedly, most recently two posts above his own.
Besides the obvious model number, what are the differences in hardware and firmware between the two.
They seem identical my cousin has the galaxy note 2 at&t and I have the i605 Verizon gn2 maybe the network receivers are different
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Besides the obvious model number, what are the differences in hardware and firmware between the two.
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A lot...Verizon (and Sprint) uses CDMA frequencies and radios and AT&T (and T-Mobile) uses GSM frequencies and radios
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A lot...Verizon (and Sprint) uses CDMA frequencies and radios and AT&T (and T-Mobile) uses GSM frequencies and radios
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I understand the obvious here but I currently have the verizon 605 and I'm on at&t so it would seem that it can be on any carrier considering the n2 uses a lot of freqs. I'm talking about actual hardware differences. I might need to do some research on my own with this one. But if anyone else can help with this would be appreciated.
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I understand the obvious here but I currently have the verizon 605 and I'm on at&t so it would seem that it can be on any carrier considering the n2 uses a lot of freqs. I'm talking about actual hardware differences. I might need to do some research on my own with this one. But if anyone else can help with this would be appreciated.
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Verizon model doesn't have what it needs to be on AT&T LTE. I believe the way the memory is partitioned is different as well.
Just out of curiosity, why are you wanting to know?
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BluGuy said:
Verizon model doesn't have what it needs to be on AT&T LTE. I believe the way the memory is partitioned is different as well.
Just out of curiosity, why are you wanting to know?
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I am a hardware guy. I'm also considering finding out how they tick and make my own custom rom to maybe figure this out and streamline a rom that will be custom only to the note 2 regardless of carrier. i mean its out there that the note 2 will work on any carrier regardless of model because I'm on my 605 running an att rom on att carrier.
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I understand the obvious here but I currently have the verizon 605 and I'm on at&t so it would seem that it can be on any carrier considering the n2 uses a lot of freqs. I'm talking about actual hardware differences. I might need to do some research on my own with this one. But if anyone else can help with this would be appreciated.
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The main differences are the included radios
Verizon: http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=3926
AT&T: http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=3918
Of course firmware will be very different because of interfacing with the radios
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The main differences are the included radios
Verizon: http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=3926
AT&T: http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=3918
Of course firmware will be very different because of interfacing with the radios
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^ Thanks for this.
Thinking out loud here, not sure why Samsung wouldn't be able to have one radio that can handle all those different LTE bands. Perhaps this is intentional based on requests from US carriers?
devious_z said:
^ Thanks for this.
Thinking out loud here, not sure why Samsung wouldn't be able to have one radio that can handle all those different LTE bands. Perhaps this is intentional based on requests from US carriers?
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Yes...that sounds like something they would request to try and keep you tied to their carrier or make you buy one of their phones when moving to them.
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^ Thanks for this.
Thinking out loud here, not sure why Samsung wouldn't be able to have one radio that can handle all those different LTE bands. Perhaps this is intentional based on requests from US carriers?
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Yes...that sounds like something they would request to try and keep you tied to their carrier or make you buy one of their phones when moving to them.
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Hmm I am confused here.. doesn't the Verizon note 2 have both GSM and CDMA capabilities, that why is considered a World phone..
I'm pretty certain the main differences is firmare and not hardware. I'll have to check those links Kenny..
I know of people running t mobile on a Verizon note 2 that have everything working perfectly fine and t mobile is GSM. Pop the Sim in, switch mobile networks to GSM, maybe edit apns for lte..but I don't even thunk that is needed once the GSM Sim is in place. This unlocks the add apn feature under access points
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Hmm I am confused here.. doesn't the Verizon note 2 have both GSM and CDMA capabilities, that why is considered a World phone..
I'm pretty certain the main differences is firmare and not hardware. I'll have to check those links Kenny..
I know of people running t mobile on a Verizon note 2 that have everything working perfectly fine and t mobile is GSM. Pop the Sim in, switch mobile networks to GSM, maybe edit apns for lte..but I don't even thunk that is needed once the GSM Sim is in place. This unlocks the add apn feature under access points
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Yes, look at the specs...it has GSM radio too with some frequencies. And no, you cannot flash AT&T firmware on a Verizon phone and have a perfectly working AT&T phone.
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Yes, look at the specs...it has GSM radio too with some frequencies. And no, you cannot flash AT&T firmware on a Verizon phone and have a perfectly working AT&T phone.
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No I know that.. I am not saying flashing att firmware would work out of the box, so they say.. I am aware of what it takes to port different firmwares
I'm saying using a att or t mobile Sim is possible.. maybe I wondered off the op's topic here..sorry about that
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I am a hardware guy. I'm also considering finding out how they tick and make my
own custom rom to maybe figure this out and streamline a rom that will be custom only to the note 2 regardless of carrier. i mean its out there that the note 2 will work on any carrier regardless of model because I'm on my 605 running an att rom on att carrier.
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This is possible.. but not without a pretty intense aroma installer..you'll need to separate different csc features, apps, frameworks, permissions, libs, build.props and vender folders. .but yea. Would be a pretty big task and knowledge of all the carriers
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I know of people running t mobile on a Verizon note 2 that have everything working perfectly fine and t mobile is GSM. Pop the Sim in, switch mobile networks to GSM, maybe edit apns for lte..but I don't even thunk that is needed once the GSM Sim is in place. This unlocks the add apn feature under access points
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Thank you for this tidbit of info. I'm currently trying to figure a way to get my old VZW Note 2 working on Straight Talk for my Dad, who's currently using a 3" Samsung something-or-other P.O.S. I'm going to get the AT&T version of the Straight Talk SIM and try it out since some have reported success with it. If not that one, then maybe the T-Mobile one.
I'll post back with my results (5-10 business days for delivery--yikes!)
P.S. Anyone else out there have a recommendation for a ROM to use for this? I'm going to go with something 4.1.x because I've read that later versions won't work. Jedi X maybe?
Hi guys, anybody here using the unlocked version of LG G6? I preordered mine off BH Photo Video and it arrived yesterday.
Was browing the threads and forums and haven't seen any regarding the unlocked version. My carrier is AT&T but I hate carrier phones since my experience with AT&T LG G5.
I saw lots of threads about how to access the hidden menu and stuff and tried it myself but didn't work so I was hoping some of you here uses the unlocked version and knows how to do that stuff.
Thanks!
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Hi guys, anybody here using the unlocked version of LG G6? I preordered mine off BH Photo Video and it arrived yesterday.
Was browing the threads and forums and haven't seen any regarding the unlocked version. My carrier is AT&T but I hate carrier phones since my experience with AT&T LG G5.
I saw lots of threads about how to access the hidden menu and stuff and tried it myself but didn't work so I was hoping some of you here uses the unlocked version and knows how to do that stuff.
Thanks!
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I won the LGUS997 version in a drawing and I'm currently using it on cricket. Works just fine but would love to have this thing rooted.
boksquare said:
Hi guys, anybody here using the unlocked version of LG G6? I preordered mine off BH Photo Video and it arrived yesterday.
Was browing the threads and forums and haven't seen any regarding the unlocked version. My carrier is AT&T but I hate carrier phones since my experience with AT&T LG G5.
I saw lots of threads about how to access the hidden menu and stuff and tried it myself but didn't work so I was hoping some of you here uses the unlocked version and knows how to do that stuff.
Thanks!
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I am using a US 997 on at&t without issues at all without the need to go in the hidden settings menu just put my SIM card in it and good to go data LTE Volte everything working fine
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I am using a US 997 on at&t without issues at all without the need to go in the hidden settings menu just put my SIM card in it and good to go data LTE Volte everything working fine
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How do you get in the hidden menu on the 997?
boksquare said:
How do you get in the hidden menu on the 997?
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I don't know I didn't needed to
boksquare said:
How do you get in the hidden menu on the 997?
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Is this what you are looking for?? *#546638#*997#
shaneg79 said:
Is this what you are looking for?? *#546638#*997#
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I tried this but it doesn't work. Tells me MUI code errpr :/
boksquare said:
I tried this but it doesn't work. Tells me MUI code errpr :/
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Hmm works on mine I have the us997
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Hmm works on mine I have the us997
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Mind sharing more info about your phone?
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Mind sharing more info about your phone?
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Sure what would u like to know I know it's the unlocked US Cellular version and I'm using it on cricket which is owned by att
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Sure what would u like to know I know it's the unlocked US Cellular version and I'm using it on cricket which is owned by att
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All maybe that's why. Mine is not unlocked from any carrier it's just unlocked :/
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All maybe that's why. Mine is not unlocked from any carrier it's just unlocked :/
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As far as I know the 997 is the US Cellular version
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As far as I know the 997 is the US Cellular version
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Nope. LG did something stupid again like they did with the G4. They made the us cellular version and us unlocked version the exact same model number. I thought they had learned because with the G5 they differentiated the model number for the us unlocked version, but they went back to old habits I guess. So there are two variants of the us997:
US997: US cellular
US997: USA unlocked variant
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Nope. LG did something stupid again like they did with the G4. They made the us cellular version and us unlocked version the exact same model number. I thought they had learned because with the G5 they differentiated the model number for the us unlocked version, but they went back to old habits I guess. So there are two variants of the us997:
US997: US cellular
US997: USA unlocked variant
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Good to know I wonder if they would both use the same roms when they get it rooted
jeffsga88 said:
Nope. LG did something stupid again like they did with the G4. They made the us cellular version and us unlocked version the exact same model number. I thought they had learned because with the G5 they differentiated the model number for the us unlocked version, but they went back to old habits I guess. So there are two variants of the us997:
US997: US cellular
US997: USA unlocked variant
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Yea because on LG's website for redeeming the promo, the unlocked version and US cellular had different tabs. Do you have any idea how I access the hidden menu on USA unlocked?
boksquare said:
Yea because on LG's website for redeeming the promo, the unlocked version and US cellular had different tabs. Do you have any idea how I access the hidden menu on USA unlocked?
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No sorry, don't have the device so can't test. Maybe try putting a 0 in front of behind the 997 though, not sure. I'm guessing they wanted to differentiate the access code for the two different software versions but not sure. The code should be what was posted just different would be the 997 part.
I am using a US 997 on at&t without issues at all without the need to go in the hidden settings menu
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I tried this but it doesn't work. Tells me MUI code errpr :/
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Just noticed you posted that you tried:
Code:
*#546638#*997#
It should be:
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*#546368#*997#
At least from my research that 2nd code should work
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Just noticed you posted that you tried:
It should be:
At least from my research that 2nd code should work
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Tried that but it didn't work too :/
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Tried that but it didn't work too :/
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Not sure then
Looking into buying an unlocked s9+ to get activated on the sprint network. I have been doing a lot of reading and was wondering will there be any features I lose if i keep the unlocked firmware. I read that you can flash it to the sprint firmware, will that fix any issues with the features that are locked on the sprint network due to having an unlocked phone. thanks for the help y'all
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Looking into buying an unlocked s9+ to get activated on the sprint network. I have been doing a lot of reading and was wondering will there be any features I lose if i keep the unlocked firmware. I read that you can flash it to the sprint firmware, will that fix any issues with the features that are locked on the sprint network due to having an unlocked phone. thanks for the help y'all
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See my post here for all the differences across all carriers:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=77466867&postcount=65
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See my post here for all the differences across all carriers:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=77466867&postcount=65
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Thank you I will take a look! :good:
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See my post here for all the differences across all carriers:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=77466867&postcount=65
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So based on your post you can flash to carrier firmware and not lose any features for any service. This is good info should be sticky somewhere.
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So based on your post you can flash to carrier firmware and not lose any features for any service. This is good info should be sticky somewhere.
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That wasn't really the point of my post I linked. And it isn't entirely true, especially with AT&T. I was describing what features will work on the basic U1/unlocked firmware on phones sold by Samsung directly as "Factory Unlocked".
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That wasn't really the point of my post I linked. And it isn't entirely true, especially with AT&T. I was describing what features will work on the basic U1/unlocked firmware on phones sold by Samsung directly as "Factory Unlocked".
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based on your post, me having sprint service I do not lose anything as of now. Unless VoLTE comes out, or other new features.
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based on your post, me having sprint service I do not lose anything as of now. Unless VoLTE comes out, or other new features.
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You keep visual voicemail and Wi-Fi calling. I don't believe they offer any other services (yet) that you would lose on U1. If they do, they've got to be very minor. Given that Sprint has the worst bloat of all the carriers, I'd recommend you keep the device as-is.
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You keep visual voicemail and Wi-Fi calling. I don't believe they offer any other services (yet) that you would lose on U1. If they do, they've got to be very minor. Given that Sprint has the worst bloat of all the carriers, I'd recommend you keep the device as-is.
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Thanks for the info!
Pre-orders started today in the U.S., is the phone sold on a carrier specific basis? I haven't seen anything from T-Mobile or Verizon about this phone.
gmfeld said:
Pre-orders started today in the U.S., is the phone sold on a carrier specific basis? I haven't seen anything from T-Mobile or Verizon about this phone.
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No carriers seem to be picking up the phone. Unlocked only.
hyelton said:
No carriers seem to be picking up the phone. Unlocked only.
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So does that mean that we miss out on carrier specific apps and features? If any (Sorry for my ignorance, I've never bought an unlocked phone)
gmfeld said:
So does that mean that we miss out on carrier specific apps and features? If any (Sorry for my ignorance, I've never bought an unlocked phone)
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Yes unfortunately there will be no bloatware for you to have to delete.
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Yes unfortunately there will be no bloatware for you to have to delete.
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"So does that mean that we miss out on carrier specific apps and features?"
I don't think I recall anyone ever asking that question! Most people hate what you are concerned about.
jaseman said:
"So does that mean that we miss out on carrier specific apps and features?"
I don't think I recall anyone ever asking that question! Most people hate what you are concerned about.
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Some people are just nice and never say anything bad. @gmfeld must be one...
The only other problem like past Sony devices. Wifi calling probably will probably not work. That could be a problem if you don't get a good signal at home or where ever
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The only other problem like past Sony devices. Wifi calling probably will probably not work. That could be a problem if you don't get a good signal at home or where ever
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Why won't WiFi calling work? Does that mean apps like Duo video chat won't work on a wifi network?
gmfeld said:
Why won't WiFi calling work? Does that mean apps like Duo video chat won't work on a wifi network?
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WiFi calling = SMS and calling from your number when you have no signal over WiFi.
nothing to do with apps
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Yes unfortunately there will be no bloatware for you to have to delete.
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I have always preferred unlocked phones. Easier to use overseas. And as said here no bloat wear. BTW I have read this phone does not do 5G for AT&T
Audiguy3 said:
I have always preferred unlocked phones. Easier to use overseas. And as said here no bloat wear. BTW I have read this phone does not do 5G for AT&T
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Yes, that's correct. I think tmobile provides the best option as far as 5g signal for this phone.