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I disagree, except for proper updating, Pixel takes a lot of disadvantage compare to the lg g5, specs and even camera quality, I dont really know about software though, but I was always a fan of HTC since they had the most aesthetic UIs
I love my G5 so much, but from the reviews I've seen, I think the Pixel is a better choice if you don't care about the pricing.
Well I just put my pixel xl for sale im going
Back to the g5. Why ? Because Bluetooth audio quality is important to me APTXHD is not present in the pizel. That said the screen was awesome but not as bright as the g5. Speed was the same but the pixel was 200 ms faster at loading apps fresh. The paint on the pixel is so sensitive that I could scratch it off with my nails if i was trying to. Not worth the money the new one plus is better imo. Another thing is that the lg g5 display has a higher refresh rate objects that move appear clearer in motion compared to the pixel. I really loved it but a lot of apps are not compatible with 7.1. With it rooted battery issues formed and constant heating but I know its the roots fault. That said I only paid $300 for my g5 compared to the pixel, the g5 is a no brainer. And honestly the only thing I liked about the pixel was the launcher but I just flashed a zip and have it on the g5 now. The pixel has some good features though like font size and dpi change naturally. Also it was annoying to hold in one hand and i would always touch the screen from the side of my palm while typing. Imo a $700 piece of software is not worth it because its all your getting compared to the competition.
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Well I just put my pixel xl for sale im going
Back to the g5. Why ? Because Bluetooth audio quality is important to me APTXHD is not present in the pizel. That said the screen was awesome but not as bright as the g5. Speed was the same but the pixel was 200 ms faster at loading apps fresh. The paint on the pixel is so sensitive that I could scratch it off with my nails if i was trying to. Not worth the money the new one plus is better imo. Another thing is that the lg g5 display has a higher refresh rate objects that move appear clearer in motion compared to the pixel. I really loved it but a lot of apps are not compatible with 7.1. With it rooted battery issues formed and constant heating but I know its the roots fault. That said I only paid $300 for my g5 compared to the pixel, the g5 is a no brainer. And honestly the only thing I liked about the pixel was the launcher but I just flashed a zip and have it on the g5 now. The pixel has some good features though like font size and dpi change naturally. Also it was annoying to hold in one hand and i would always touch the screen from the side of my palm while typing. Imo a $700 piece of software is not worth it because its all your getting compared to the competition.
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I paid almost $700 to have my H850 imported from the UK... I love this phone; LG may have some questionable bootloader policies but this phone kills it in terms of optimization compared to most of the competition. My girlfriend has a vzw branded Note 7 and besides the stylus and the amazing screen, that phone was awful! UI was slower and incredibly bloated confusing and ugly, memory management was absolutely horrible, and despite having a much larger battery(albeit explosive) my phone always got much better battery life.
She now has a Pixel XL 128gb otw to replace her Note 7 and I'm excited to compare our phones.
Your argument about frame rate is the most compelling argument I've heard yet about why the Pixel may not be worthy of the flagship crown; I don't doubt you, but do you have numbers to backup that claim? And aren't AMOLED supposed to be brighter, and isn't Pixel rated at higher lumens than our G5(too intoxicated to remember if I'm using the correct jargon but hopefully you know what I mean)? And why would rooting change much in regards to heat and battery life if one is still using the stock kernel and ROM? Once again not challenging your claim, just curious about the details.
To reiterate I love my G5, the wide angle camera, the stock UI, the firmware optimization... I've had zero issues with this phone. But if money was of no consequence I would have a hard time choosing between the two. The Pixel may be ascetically unappealing(perhaps even repulsive) but it's made by the people who designed the OS in the first place, the camera is truly incredible, and one would never have to worry about speedy updates or lack of development... But I do love my double tap to wake! That feature should be an industry standard... Just out of curiosity, can you use DTW on your ported Pixel launcher with the G5?
A co-worker has a OnePlus 3T Otw as well cant wait to finally see a OnePlus in person and compare... For $440 that phone has Killer specs and a promising reputation... Can't stand capacitive buttons tho so I would probably never own one
G5 better except for one small big issue, GPS. Too many reports of the GPS issue. Other than that, G5 wins for me.
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G5 better except for one small big issue, GPS. Too many reports of the GPS issue. Other than that, G5 wins for me.
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No GPS issue here.
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No GPS issue here.
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My GPS is OK too, I'm just saying there are many users who encountered the GPS issue. Just trying to be objective. I have my G5 since May and I enjoy it a lot. Never failed me and the camera is just great. I carry a spare battery in my bad all the time so my charger never leaves home. Pixel is just seriously overpriced (common thing with HTC). I means, look at Oneplus 3 (3T).. so much cheaper , looks better, clean OS..why pay more? I mainly got the G5 for the camera. Love the wide angle too.
Just to prevent the overpriced comments, I'm getting the pixel for the same price as the G5.
About the refresh rate, I actually have used the G5, and while scrolling some text turns blurry (was that model faulty?). Also shouldn't (in theory) the pixel have a higher refresh rate due to an amoled screen and daydream support?
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I paid almost $700 to have my H850 imported from the UK... I love this phone; LG may have some questionable bootloader policies but this phone kills it in terms of optimization compared to most of the competition. My girlfriend has a vzw branded Note 7 and besides the stylus and the amazing screen, that phone was awful! UI was slower and incredibly bloated confusing and ugly, memory management was absolutely horrible, and despite having a much larger battery(albeit explosive) my phone always got much better battery life.
She now has a Pixel XL 128gb otw to replace her Note 7 and I'm excited to compare our phones.
Your argument about frame rate is the most compelling argument I've heard yet about why the Pixel may not be worthy of the flagship crown; I don't doubt you, but do you have numbers to backup that claim? And aren't AMOLED supposed to be brighter, and isn't Pixel rated at higher lumens than our G5(too intoxicated to remember if I'm using the correct jargon but hopefully you know what I mean)? And why would rooting change much in regards to heat and battery life if one is still using the stock kernel and ROM? Once again not challenging your claim, just curious about the details.
To reiterate I love my G5, the wide angle camera, the stock UI, the firmware optimization... I've had zero issues with this phone. But if money was of no consequence I would have a hard time choosing between the two. The Pixel may be ascetically unappealing(perhaps even repulsive) but it's made by the people who designed the OS in the first place, the camera is truly incredible, and one would never have to worry about speedy updates or lack of development... But I do love my double tap to wake! That feature should be an industry standard... Just out of curiosity, can you use DTW on your ported Pixel launcher with the G5?
A co-worker has a OnePlus 3T Otw as well cant wait to finally see a OnePlus in person and compare... For $440 that phone has Killer specs and a promising reputation... Can't stand capacitive buttons tho so I would probably never own one
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Technically the pixel LCD is brighter but Google does not let it pass a certain point in brightness however if you flash a custom kernel you can enable high brightness mode . root is buggy 7.1 is really annoying to deal with the recovery is now knitted into the kernel you should read chainfires post about it. You can't just slap on a kernel or a new recovery version on top of what you already have you have to return to stock every time flash twrp flash kernel then supersu. Battery life was alright for a few days but then the phone started to over heat for no reason. Just laying there with no change on how I use it the only explanation I could think of was root after I went back to stock it went away. That's just my experience though.
What kind of question is this? Pixel costs 2x of what G5 costs.
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All that aside, Pixel. Had the G5 since April, one software update (security patch) and all the annoying bugs/features still there.
Inside I have to adjust brightness every time I turn screen on due to the crap "auto brightness". That alone has made we ponder if I really like the wide angle lens enough to suffer the constant annoyance of screen being dim. Contacted LG and they gave some barmy excuse that I need to contact the local software team to raise this issue? It's an international phone and ROM!
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About the refresh rate, I actually have used the G5, and while scrolling some text turns blurry (was that model faulty?). Also shouldn't (in theory) the pixel have a higher refresh rate due to an amoled screen and daydream support?
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Afaik the refresh rate on Android is fixed at 60 fps. Haven't had blurry text on mine yet. But I do suffer from faulty gps which is why I send mine in soon for repair.
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What kind of question is this? Pixel costs 2x of what G5 costs.
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First could you please setup being unfriendly all the time. Every post of yours is rather brusquely.
2nd op said he would get the pixel for the same price as the g5.
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All that aside, Pixel. Had the G5 since April, one software update (security patch) and all the annoying bugs/features still there.
Inside I have to adjust brightness every time I turn screen on due to the crap "auto brightness". That alone has made we ponder if I really like the wide angle lens enough to suffer the constant annoyance of screen being dim. Contacted LG and they gave some barmy excuse that I need to contact the local software team to raise this issue? It's an international phone and ROM!
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Never had the issue. Or at least I didn't notice it. Am always happy with the brightness.
Though the camera module is the same as the lg g4 which is kind of disappointing. Overall a great camera but I still would have wanted a newer sensor to maybe get the same hdr speed as the pixel. Couldn't live without the optical stabilization anymore though... Then again I don't know how the electronic one is on the pixel.
For landscapes the wide angle lens is amazing.
I find the battery highly dependent on your network coverage. I get between 20 and 80 hours with 5 hours of screen on time. Depends on how much you are in locations with wifi and so on
Speed is simply amazing but then again I come from a rather outdated note 2 so I don't know how it improved over last year's flagships.
LG G5 anyday , G5 is close to Pixel in terms of everything , defeats Pixel in features. The camera is closest and hard to compare.
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About the refresh rate, I actually have used the G5, and while scrolling some text turns blurry (was that model faulty?). Also shouldn't (in theory) the pixel have a higher refresh rate due to an amoled screen and daydream support?
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Look at my post here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g5/help/font-icons-blurry-scrolling-t3501921
No one seems to care or notice this. I guess it's normal on the G5 and it's bothering me a lot. It's terrible and makes it mostly unusable.
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Look at my post here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g5/help/font-icons-blurry-scrolling-t3501921
No one seems to care or notice this. I guess it's normal on the G5 and it's bothering me a lot. It's terrible and makes it mostly unusable.
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The g5 I've used isn't that bad. It was blurry but only if I scrolled fast. I suggest u exchange your G5.
Ali Mirza said:
LG G5 anyday , G5 is close to Pixel in terms of everything , defeats Pixel in features. The camera is closest and hard to compare.
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What features in specific?
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The g5 I've used isn't that bad. It was blurry but only if I scrolled fast. I suggest u exchange your G5.
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Nope. It's new. And it's just if you scroll "slow". Also the effect is misleading because the camera recording it shows it more significant than the human eye can catch.
I have had an LG G4 since Sept, 2015 and have been using it as my daily driver ever since. I was probably among the first ones in India to buy the LG G6. For clarification, the LG G6 (H870DS) sold in India has 64GB memory and comes with a 32-bit HiFi DAC. I loved the G6 right from its launch at MWC, so much so that I had made up my mind to get it as soon as it lands in India. The fact that it was available with an INR 10,000 cashback on the first day was the icing on the cake. I bought the Ice Platinum colour and received the device on 29th (requested later delivery).
I unboxed the phone around 3pm and used it for 2 hours straight. I had taken a half-day from work, I spent two hours with this device, I loved the aesthetics and this colour. LG has made a near perfect smartphone but it fell short in the one place where I had least expected it to. After about 3 hours of using this phone, I put up the return request with a very heavy heart. This is by far the best Android device I have ever used till date. Why did I return it, the burning question now.
The LG G6 has the worst front camera I have used on a smartphone since 2012. Period. It was worse than my old LG G2, Galaxy S4 and even the mid-ranger Moto G4 Plus. Coming from an LG G4, this was a major downgrade for me. I played around with the settings, found that the front was using a 3.7MP mode to scale to 18:9 but even moving to the 5MP mode didn't help. The camera was blotchy, unfocussed at most times, lacked any kind of sharpness and had very poor color reproduction.
I headed to the nearest LG service centre and also visited a Croma outlet that had a demo unit. After being certain that I had not received a lemon, I had to go for the return. For those wondering, the LG G4 is miles ahead of the front camera game with its 8MP autofocus sensor. The LG G6 is a fantastic device and probably is the best that LG could produce.
I do not understand how could LG engineers, marketing teams, quality control department or even their top ranking officials overlooked this. I am not sure how others have not mentioned this in their reviews. I searched around and found a couple of camera comparison videos that also show how poor the G6's front camera is when compared to other flagships. The OnePlus 3T has a much sharper sensor than the G6 and I always hated the OP3T front camera for the lack of details it captures!
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I have had an LG G4 since Sept, 2015 and have been using it as my daily driver ever since. I was probably among the first ones in India to buy the LG G6. For clarification, the LG G6 (H870DS) sold in India has 64GB memory and comes with a 32-bit HiFi DAC. I loved the G6 right from its launch at MWC, so much so that I had made up my mind to get it as soon as it lands in India. The fact that it was available with an INR 10,000 cashback on the first day was the icing on the cake. I bought the Ice Platinum colour and received the device on 29th (requested later delivery).
I unboxed the phone around 3pm and used it for 2 hours straight. I had taken a half-day from work, I spent two hours with this device, I loved the aesthetics and this colour. LG has made a near perfect smartphone but it fell short in the one place where I had least expected it to. After about 3 hours of using this phone, I put up the return request with a very heavy heart. This is by far the best Android device I have ever used till date. Why did I return it, the burning question now.
The LG G6 has the worst front camera I have used on a smartphone since 2012. Period. It was worse than my old LG G2, Galaxy S4 and even the mid-ranger Moto G4 Plus. Coming from an LG G4, this was a major downgrade for me. I played around with the settings, found that the front was using a 3.7MP mode to scale to 18:9 but even moving to the 5MP mode didn't help. The camera was blotchy, unfocussed at most times, lacked any kind of sharpness and had very poor color reproduction.
I headed to the nearest LG service centre and also visited a Croma outlet that had a demo unit. After being certain that I had not received a lemon, I had to go for the return. For those wondering, the LG G4 is miles ahead of the front camera game with its 8MP autofocus sensor. The LG G6 is a fantastic device and probably is the best that LG could produce.
I do not understand how could LG engineers, marketing teams, quality control department or even their top ranking officials overlooked this. I am not sure how others have not mentioned this in their reviews. I searched around and found a couple of camera comparison videos that also show how poor the G6's front camera is when compared to other flagships. The OnePlus 3T has a much sharper sensor than the G6 and I always hated the OP3T front camera for the lack of details it captures!
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Actually is a known thing of this device, and also the rear cameras are, on the hardware side, the worse piece of **** that LG could mount on a top device, but, well, at least with the reare the software has done miracles. Don't know about international reviewers, or the ones that review in your country, but in mine (italy) it was always said that the front camera is really bad.
But in my case i don't use the front camera, never used in any phone i've ever had (G2, G5 and now G6), i'm not a selfie person xD
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Actually is a known thing of this device, and also the rear cameras are, on the hardware side, the worse piece of **** that LG could mount on a top device, but, well, at least with the reare the software has done miracles. Don't know about international reviewers, or the ones that review in your country, but in mine (italy) it was always said that the front camera is really bad.
But in my case i don't use the front camera, never used in any phone i've ever had (G2, G5 and now G6), i'm not a selfie person xD
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Even if I were not a selfie person. Even if I never video called anyone. Even if I never switched on the front camera of the device, I wouldn't buy the G6. I would absolutely not be at peace knowing the fact that a flagship device with this price tag has anything that is inferior to even its own predecessors. The problem with the tech world today (I am looking at iPhone users here) is that they keep supporting these brands by buying whatever *** they put in their phones and never complain. If we do not complain, they wouldn't listen and the evolution of technology will suffer a set back!
Yes the results from the rear cameras are really good, but most reviews mention the poor quality of the front camera, don't know what LG was thinking?
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Even if I were not a selfie person. Even if I never video called anyone. Even if I never switched on the front camera of the device, I wouldn't buy the G6. I would absolutely not be at peace knowing the fact that a flagship device with this price tag has anything that is inferior to even its own predecessors. The problem with the tech world today (I am looking at iPhone users here) is that they keep supporting these brands by buying whatever *** they put in their phones and never complain. If we do not complain, they wouldn't listen and the evolution of technology will suffer a set back!
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Then complain, is by complaining that you get results in life.
Man, this is a phone, just buy whatever you want, without criticizing the others and you are good to go
Although I agree the G4S FFC was probably the best self camera I have used on a phone. I also greatly appreciate that this phone was $100 cheaper than other flag ships. The FFC is more than satisfactory for my needs
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I have had an LG G4 since Sept, 2015 and have been using it as my daily driver ever since. I was probably among the first ones in India to buy the LG G6. For clarification, the LG G6 (H870DS) sold in India has 64GB memory and comes with a 32-bit HiFi DAC. I loved the G6 right from its launch at MWC, so much so that I had made up my mind to get it as soon as it lands in India. The fact that it was available with an INR 10,000 cashback on the first day was the icing on the cake. I bought the Ice Platinum colour and received the device on 29th (requested later delivery).
I unboxed the phone around 3pm and used it for 2 hours straight. I had taken a half-day from work, I spent two hours with this device, I loved the aesthetics and this colour. LG has made a near perfect smartphone but it fell short in the one place where I had least expected it to. After about 3 hours of using this phone, I put up the return request with a very heavy heart. This is by far the best Android device I have ever used till date. Why did I return it, the burning question now.
The LG G6 has the worst front camera I have used on a smartphone since 2012. Period. It was worse than my old LG G2, Galaxy S4 and even the mid-ranger Moto G4 Plus. Coming from an LG G4, this was a major downgrade for me. I played around with the settings, found that the front was using a 3.7MP mode to scale to 18:9 but even moving to the 5MP mode didn't help. The camera was blotchy, unfocussed at most times, lacked any kind of sharpness and had very poor color reproduction.
I headed to the nearest LG service centre and also visited a Croma outlet that had a demo unit. After being certain that I had not received a lemon, I had to go for the return. For those wondering, the LG G4 is miles ahead of the front camera game with its 8MP autofocus sensor. The LG G6 is a fantastic device and probably is the best that LG could produce.
I do not understand how could LG engineers, marketing teams, quality control department or even their top ranking officials overlooked this. I am not sure how others have not mentioned this in their reviews. I searched around and found a couple of camera comparison videos that also show how poor the G6's front camera is when compared to other flagships. The OnePlus 3T has a much sharper sensor than the G6 and I always hated the OP3T front camera for the lack of details it captures!
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Sorry to hear that man. I know how frustrating it can get when something as simple as a front camera doesn't function the way it was supposed to, considering it's LG's best phone ever.
I was an S7E user till last week and would have switched to the S8 if I didn't have to deal with the terrible tempered glass issue with the edge displays. I have almost spent about 5 to 6 thousand only on the tempered glass and even when I used to put a new tempered glass on the S7E, the dust would start going in. Even with the S8, nobody has been able to make a proper tempered glass yet. And it almost looks like there will never be one. And the worst part was even with the tempered glass and a back case on, my S7E's display broke when it fell down from a 2 feet height. Though it still works fine and is usable, the tempered glass thing was too much to deal with. So i finally gave up on the edge displays.
Wanted to upgrade to some other phone, I have never been a fan of iPhones, so that was not an option for me. And was eagerly waiting for the G6 to arrive in India. And when I finally got my hands on it, I was very disappointed, to say the least. The front camera like you said was very bad, the display was not bright enough ( Compared to the iPhone 7 and Mi 5, both has IPS displays) and on top of it all, the disastrous pricing by LG. So I gave up on it and continued my struggle with the S7E.
But after a month to my surprise, LG had dropped the price by 10,000, the best price you can get it for now is 39,300 on Amazon. So looked up on OLX for a good deal and found some LG employee who had bought the G6 for 23,000 and managed to get it from him for 28,000. It was just one week old. It's a black one and the black color looks much much better than the silver one I had seen the first time. So I am kind of happy with it now. I think it's a pretty sweet deal for that price. The rear wide angle camera is crazy, I really love it and the battery is pretty decent too. And I don't know if they have released some software update or something, but the front camera looks much better compared to my first experience with it.
But yeah overall it's quite disappointing that LG releasing their flagship in 2017 could not put up few simple things in place. According to me, they should have made the display better ( The color reproduction and the brightness), the front camera certainly should have been much much better and the rear too in low light conditions. But if you can get a similar deal like I got, then probably its worth it. I like the device overall now, at least i don't have to deal with the tempered glass s*** anymore.
You all keep writing "flagship" in here about the G6. That is wrong. The V-series is their flagships not the G-series. Just a note.
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You all keep writing "flagship" in here about the G6. That is wrong. The V-series is their flagships not the G-series. Just a note.
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OnePlus 5 getting returned. Picked up a new G6 for < $400 until the V30 comes out. Or the pixel 2. We shall see.
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You all keep writing "flagship" in here about the G6. That is wrong. The V-series is their flagships not the G-series. Just a note.
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That is not entirely accurate! The V-series is their Top of the line model/device, but is not released world wide, it's only released in some select markets... For instance I have never seen an V-series in person ever, and I've tried looking for the V-10 and V-20 on OLX in the country I reside and neighbouring countries to purchase one, but found none... Then I read either the V10 or V20 (don't remember exactly which) was only released in the US and the other only in US and Europe...
A Flagship by definition, is the Ship or in this case the Smatphone that is high-end and represents the Brand, usually worldwide, which in this case is the G-Series... If you ask most people, they don't even know what a V10/20 is, what brand it is, and have probably never seen one, and if they had, they probably wouldn't have known...
Also, if you watch any review video on the G6, they all call it LG's Flagship Device... Of course a brand can have more than one flagship... Samsung for instance has The Galaxy S line and Galaxy Note... Both are considered flagships.
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I Dono much... But do you guys disabled the beauty mode skin tone and all those gimmicks in front camera option ? Cos after that I see it's little sharp and for the author of this thread.... If you knew and loved pretty well about G6 you should have known that front camera is only 5mp before you buying it. It's not a selfie fone bro
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You all keep writing "flagship" in here about the G6. That is wrong. The V-series is their flagships not the G-series. Just a note.
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Both are flagship infact
V series is phablet version and saying for youth and media guys
G series is for usual customers and who need executive like needed people
I can't believe this. The selfie camera is nothing special. What a disaster, how could they do this to us? I demand a refund.
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I can't believe this. The selfie camera is nothing special. What a disaster, how could they do this to us? I demand a refund.
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You'd demand a refund, because you're not pleased with the front camera? I'd say it takes about five seconds browsing reviews of the G6 to conclude that the front camera isn't exactly top notch. But it's not a manufacturing or quality fault.
I am trying to decide between OP5 and G6 (will be buying in India)
I am holding back on picking up a G6 because of these following reasons, so please through some light on the same
1) Software - I am worried that the software (not being stock or OP5 smooth) may become clumsy and slow the phone one I use it for 5-6 months (similar to samsung ones)
2) Battery life - OP5 has better battery than G6 (?). Also as OP5 keeps the battery cool while charging, it may have better long term battery life. My Nexus 4, Nexus 5 and note 4 battery lives reduced drastically to 1.5 hours SOT after a year, year and a half of use. So this has become a major issue for me.
3) Heat on SD821 - I have to rely on 3G almost all the time and I read in a couple of reviews that the SD821 heats up while constant 3G browsing or CPU intensive tasks rather quickly while no such problems with SD835 (OP5)
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I am trying to decide between OP5 and G6 (will be buying in India)
I am holding back on picking up a G6 because of these following reasons, so please through some light on the same
1) Software - I am worried that the software (not being stock or OP5 smooth) may become clumsy and slow the phone one I use it for 5-6 months (similar to samsung ones)
2) Battery life - OP5 has better battery than G6 (?). Also as OP5 keeps the battery cool while charging, it may have better long term battery life. My Nexus 4, Nexus 5 and note 4 battery lives reduced drastically to 1.5 hours SOT after a year, year and a half of use. So this has become a major issue for me.
3) Heat on SD821 - I have to rely on 3G almost all the time and I read in a couple of reviews that the SD821 heats up while constant 3G browsing or CPU intensive tasks rather quickly while no such problems with SD835 (OP5)
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Yes, yes and yes.
I bought LG G6 in India a week back and Im not completely sold. Having used OPO and OPT, LG software in something else, you either hate it or you don't.
Except Display and Camera, 1+5 offers much more when compered to LG.
S1611 said:
Yes, yes and yes.
I bought LG G6 in India a week back and Im not completely sold. Having used OPO and OPT, LG software in something else, you either hate it or you don't.
Except Display and Camera, 1+5 offers much more when compered to LG.
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thanks for the response..
how good is the display difference? and camera (apart from video, I mean still photography) of OP5 is at least on par with G6 right? (at least thats what I understood from the pocketnow's in-depth camera reviews of both devices)
and how is the battery life of G6 compared to your 3T?
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You'd demand a refund, because you're not pleased with the front camera? I'd say it takes about five seconds browsing reviews of the G6 to conclude that the front camera isn't exactly top notch. But it's not a manufacturing or quality fault.
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Hook, line and sinker...
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sandy601 said:
thanks for the response..
how good is the display difference? and camera (apart from video, I mean still photography) of OP5 is at least on par with G6 right? (at least thats what I understood from the pocketnow's in-depth camera reviews of both devices)
and how is the battery life of G6 compared to your 3T?
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Display differences depends on your preferences. I prefer LCD over AMOLED. You may not. But that jello affect gets my OCD going.
Camera difference comes down to processing algorithm done by OEMs. For comparison head over to GSMarena photo compare tool and don't let DXOmark scores fool you.
On the side note, If you have budget of G6, I would advise you to wait for Nokia 8 or buy HTC U11 now.
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I am trying to decide between OP5 and G6 (will be buying in India)
I am holding back on picking up a G6 because of these following reasons, so please through some light on the same
1) Software - I am worried that the software (not being stock or OP5 smooth) may become clumsy and slow the phone one I use it for 5-6 months (similar to samsung ones)
2) Battery life - OP5 has better battery than G6 (?). Also as OP5 keeps the battery cool while charging, it may have better long term battery life. My Nexus 4, Nexus 5 and note 4 battery lives reduced drastically to 1.5 hours SOT after a year, year and a half of use. So this has become a major issue for me.
3) Heat on SD821 - I have to rely on 3G almost all the time and I read in a couple of reviews that the SD821 heats up while constant 3G browsing or CPU intensive tasks rather quickly while no such problems with SD835 (OP5)
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Well let me tell you my thoughts so far ( Just so that you know where my thoughts are coming from, I am a professional fashion photographer)
1) The design is pretty neat. In the sense, feels great in the hand, the screen to body ratio is good, no buttons on the front which make it look seamless.
2) The display itself is not great. Compared to the other LCD's like iPhone 7, Mi5, Mi6 and few other phones, G6 has the least impressive display. The colors look pale, text is not sharp enough, brightness should have been much much better and the viewing angles are poor, blacks are really poor again and you can see the light leak during the night when the always display is on. ( All this compared to the other standard LCD display phones and not compared to an AMOLED). I will never compare AMOLED displays to LCDs, as they both have their own advantages and disadvantages.
2) The camera is a little tricky here, The wide angle is really fun to use and the photos look like none other. But otherwise, its an okay camera, and definitely not good when it comes to the front camera.
3) Battery is fine, gets you through a day with moderate use.
4) Doesn't heat at least for me, i use it on 4G most of the times.
What i would suggest is, see the phone in person, compare it to other similar price range phones and then take a decision. I also have an S7 edge and i am definitely not as happy as i was with S7E. Thats a better phone IMO. I am not at all a fan of OPO, so cant comment on it. You can even consider the Honor 8 pro, which i saw in person and i think its a pretty solid phone too.
I bought the G6 as i felt there were no other options ( I hadn't see the Honor 8 Pro when i bought the G6 and my S7E was a literal pain in the a** to maintain as it did not have a proper tempered glass and that was the main reason why i decided to move away from samsung)
Edit : One more important reason i bought it was, i found an LG employee who bought the phone on 50% discount and sold it to me for 28K ( He had bought it for 23K). If you can catch hold of some LG employee, then it will be a great deal.
Hi Guys,
I'm rocking the great LG V20 B&O edition and It's awesome, but I have to admit, it's a bit too big, the LG G6, Korean model seems very similar, QUAD-DAC, same size screen, a bit better CPU, 64Gb, etc etc... I can sell my V20 and put £30 more and get the G6, would you guys do it? Really not sure if it would be an upgrade, as I've seen that the G6's screen doesn't get as bright and the front camera is bad, but the G6 is better looking, more compact, IP68, no camera hump and better looking (I know, twice xD).
What has been your experience with the G6? does the 18:9 aspect ration been an issue? Opinions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks for you time XDA community.
UPDATE:
It's been 2 weeks that I've been trying out the G6 and averall I'm pretty happy with it, but don't feel that it was a good swap and here are my reasons for it:
Things I don't like about the G6 compared to V20:
- The G6 is behind security updates compared to the V20, I had June update on the V20 and G6 still with April Security update.
- Screen backlight bleed from the bottom, when using always on display in the dark.
- Front Camera is just bad, I'm not a fan of selfies, but I do it sometimes with my kids and it's bad...
- Main camera, it's not that great compared to the V20, V20 was far superior, the G6 has a lot of over sharpening even in decent light and it looks unnatural.
- It takes a second or 2 to take a picture, missing sometime the money shot.
Things I like about the G6 compared to V20:
- Looks amazing and feels amazing in hand
- Far less lags navigating the UI
That's it really...
So considering going back to the V20 now selling the G6, buy the V20, which is cheaper now and still make some money... What I'm saying is, if you have the V20, keep it, the G6 is not an worthy upgrade IMHO.
hugoprh said:
Hi Guys,
I'm rocking the great LG V20 B&O edition and It's awesome, but I have to admit, it's a bit too big, the LG G6, Korean model seems very similar, QUAD-DAC, same size screen, a bit better CPU, 64Gb, etc etc... I can sell my V20 and put £30 more and get the G6, would you guys do it? Really not sure if it would be an upgrade, as I've seen that the G6's screen doesn't get as bright and the front camera is bad, but the G6 is better looking, more compact, IP68, no camera hump and better looking (I know, twice xD).
What has been your experience with the G6? does the 18:9 aspect ration been an issue? Opinions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks for you time XDA community.
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Go for a black g6!
hugoprh said:
Hi Guys,
I'm rocking the great LG V20 B&O edition and It's awesome, but I have to admit, it's a bit too big, the LG G6, Korean model seems very similar, QUAD-DAC, same size screen, a bit better CPU, 64Gb, etc etc... I can sell my V20 and put £30 more and get the G6, would you guys do it? Really not sure if it would be an upgrade, as I've seen that the G6's screen doesn't get as bright and the front camera is bad, but the G6 is better looking, more compact, IP68, no camera hump and better looking (I know, twice xD).
What has been your experience with the G6? does the 18:9 aspect ration been an issue? Opinions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks for you time XDA community.
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G6 all the way!!
Just get a Bootloader unlockable variant if that is important to you... The main cameras are very good, the screen is awsome, also, I haven't had any trouble using the phone in direct sunlight, but I guess that varies from user to user... Also the front camera is not that bad really, it's just kinda cold in the colors, and it might get a little grainy in low light conditions, but I've taken great pictures with it already, plus you do have the smart flash, skin tone, and lighting adjustment, filters for more saturation/hotter colors to apply on the fly before taking a pic... So it's actually quite decent IMO. If you really want a quality selfie, use the main shooter with OIS (and that goes for any phone no matter how good the front camera may be), you got the cheese shutter command to take the pic by saying smile, cheese and other words, the hand gesture, timer, and the volume down button to take a selfie easily!! Also the IP68 is just so awsome!!! Take pics/videos underwater... And just for fun... Dive your new G6 on a Glass of water in front of your friends (I did, it was hilarious!)!!
Anyway... Those are my 2 cents...
I love my G6... Apart from not being able to unlock the Bootloader... But that isnt the G6's fault... It's the sticks in the butt of whomever makes decisions at LG :'D!!!
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Definitely a good phone. If you're looking for a smaller foot print, the G6 is the way to go.
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I switched from the V20 to the G6.
Don't hesitate just do it. The only thing you'll regret is waiting so long to switch. I'll never go back to a big screen and low screen-to-body ratio.
Plus the V20 for me was super laggy camera sucked fingerprint scanner inconsistent just really felt like the V20 was over hyped.
The G6 however, despite the crappy sales numbers, is the best phone of 2017 so far.
The only thing that is an upgrade from V20 to G6 is the battery life basically and also the wide angle lens quality. Though if you prefer a smaller phone it might be wise the G6 is much more portable.
Go for G6 only if you like Compact size and match color before you buy both . Black feels ordinary. Platinum feels more premium to me.
If you can adjust the size. Wait for V30 or G7
Thanks for all the comments guys, I did it, G6 with Quad DAC ordered? I'll compare both and sell the one I think that doesn't deserve my pocket can't wait for the G6 ?
(Added to OP)
UPDATE:
It's been 2 weeks that I've been trying out the G6 and averall I'm pretty happy with it, but don't feel that it was a good swap and here are my reasons for it:
Things I don't like about the G6 compared to V20:
- The G6 is behind security updates compared to the V20, I had June update on the V20 and G6 still with April Security update.
- Screen backlight bleed from the bottom, when using always on display in the dark.
- Front Camera is just bad, I'm not a fan of selfies, but I do it sometimes with my kids and it's bad...
- Main camera, it's not that great compared to the V20, V20 was far superior, the G6 has a lot of over sharpening even in decent light and it looks unnatural.
- It takes a second or 2 to take a picture, missing sometime the money shot.
Things I like about the G6 compared to V20:
- Looks amazing and feels amazing in hand
- Far less lags navigating the UI
That's it really...
So considering going back to the V20 now selling the G6, buy the V20, which is cheaper now and still make some money... What I'm saying is, if you have the V20, keep it, the G6 is not an worthy upgrade IMHO.
Lol yeah, thats how you compare phones. Just lets ignore Dual Sim, Quad DAC, 19:1 Format and everything else and put a ****post on a forum with a big ass signature acting like a douche.
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Lol yeah, thats how you compare phones. Just lets ignore Dual Sim, Quad DAC, 19:1 Format and everything else and put a ****post on a forum with a big ass signature acting like a douche.
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You gotta love the Internet, did I ticle your 4$$ with my opinion? And what the hell are you on about, both have Dual SIM, Quad DAC and the G6 has a 18:9 aspect ratio, which right now it's not used by most video players, if you don't agree with what I said, that's fine, I'm just telling G6 owners my opinion, in case they're in the same situation as I was. The G6 is simply not an upgrade from the V20.
And my signature is awesome by the way, I have had all of those phones and much more (legally) without spending any money, it's called being business savvy, but I'll let you figure that one out
All the best mate and keep spreading the Love XOX
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You gotta love the Internet, did I ticle your 4$$ with my opinion? And what the hell are you on about, both have Dual SIM, Quad DAC and the G6 has a 18:9 aspect ratio, which right now it's not used by most video players, if you don't agree with what I said, that's fine, I'm just telling G6 owners my opinion, in case they're in the same situation as I was. The G6 is simply not an upgrade from the V20.
And my signature is awesome by the way, I have had all of those phones and much more (legally) without spending any money, it's called being business savvy, but I'll let you figure that one out
All the best mate and keep spreading the Love XOX
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Lol
The latest update 10t (open EU) has really toned done the processing in the camera app with photos looking much better than prior to the update. just saying, but yes the V20 is an awesome machine too, enjoy!
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Lol yeah, thats how you compare phones. Just lets ignore Dual Sim, Quad DAC, 19:1 Format and everything else and put a ****post on a forum with a big ass signature acting like a douche.
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19:1 format.....
I guess you're a developer that was specially selected by LG to receive a Limited Douche Edition G6
I'm just looking for opinions. I have jump on dad with T-Mobile.
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I'm just looking for opinions. I have jump on dad with T-Mobile.
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I thought about it because it has some nice new features, but also takeaways. But one thing that reviewers haven't touched on much is how much narrower it is in comparison to the v30. And when you compare them side by side, wow, it looks like an iphone X but slightly taller. I don't care much for the taller narrower phones these days. I think I'll hang on to my beloved v30 and wait for the Pixel 3.
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I'm just looking for opinions. I have jump on dad with T-Mobile.
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My wife just upgraded from a G6 to the G7 and I have the V30. The size of the G6 and G7 are almost identical but the G7 looks far better with a completely black front instead of the silver bezels of the G6. The screen on the G7 is nice and the notch is interesting (not negative nor positive in my book, just different). The clock on the left will require retraining your eyes.
As for the aspect ratio, it is very noticeable to me in that it's taller and slimmer. I personally don't like that feeling buy my wife loves it. She always though the V30 was too wide to hold comfortably. The glass feeling on the phone is the same as the V30. One nice touch on the G7 is the IMEI is etched under the glass of the phone in a non-obtrusive way (T-Mobile version anyways). The external speaker on the G7 was noticeable louder and produced a warmer sound compared to the V30. As for the fingerprint reader, it is just as fast as the V30 but moving the power button to the side is annoying and a step backwards. We both immediately noticed that to turn the phone/screen off was now harder than before as you had to reach to the side or double tap on the screen instead of pressing the fingerprint reader.
Software wise, the G7 and V30 with the Oreo update are very similar in feel with only some minor variations. The G7 has new options for the native launcher like swiping to Google and more integration with the Assistant while the V30 has better HDR and VR support. Also has V30 has Wallpaper motion to give your home screen a parallax effect but is absent on the G7. If you use a 3rd party launcher, you will not see these features therefore not miss anything.
On the camera front, the wide angle of the camera is narrower for the G7 from the V30 and it's noticeable when putting the two next to each other. I personally don't like giving up the extra FOV. The UI and features are more comprehensive on the G7 with the addition of Portrait mode and the Google Assistant built directly in. The manual mode is similar however the V30 has far more shooting modes that the G7.
I would say for anybody who already has a V30 and likes it, don't bother with the G7. If you have a G6 or older device, I would definitely look and get the feel in your hand to see if it suits you needs. She is very happy with the upgrade and has no regrets.
Mostly V30>G7 for me...but depends on useage
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I just made this very difficult decision! (I'm upgrading from an older phone, ended up picking between these the G7 and the V30).
The only thing G7 offers over the V30 of significance imo is good FFC and pleasing speaker.
In balance, I found V30's unique features vs G7 more important.
Pushing me over the edge - V30's POLED display. So much better than the G7 for watching videos, etc. It's like the images are real or 3-D. A touch of hyperreality, sure but I love it.
The V7 is LED, so...more like normal. Nothing pumped up. Nothing immersive like the V30. So, yawn. Blacks are dark, but not ABSOLUTE BLACK like the V30, which makes things come alive. Same with the colors- normal, not slightly pumped up / amazing like on the V30. (I just got back from the TMobile store...a fresh experience for me).
My pro/con list consisted of:
Pros - Awesome:
V30:
- Screen - Live, amazing screen/colors etc for looking at video and photos. Love the oled. Slight hyper-reality & totally immersive! Whereas G7 =normal, not immersive, fine, but nothing special like the V30 is imo.
- Record audio from any concert - Can record 132 db concerts without distortion, even in the bass. (while recording video, or just the audio, of course. It uses the speaker as a mic.) Whereas G7 - may or may not have this. hard to tell. it has 'concert mode', but not clear if same as V30. Note: V20 had this feature, but IT DID NOT WORK, or at least not consistently. G7 implementation = unknown !
- Display size !!! - So much better, imo. The shape is .NORMAL and pleasing. whereas, the V7 has this elongated, thin-ish aspect. It actually hurts my neck to try to take in the full thing in landscape mode. Why neck, not eyes? Dunno. it's just a weird, harder to take in experience. No like. But the V30 is great. Plus, imo, Youtube videos get the edge in the V30's aspect ratio. (somemaydisagree...)
BUT:
G7 has:
- Better speaker It's actually pleasing, imo. You even hear a bit of the bass. It's nice. Supposedly you can put it on a box and it will amplify even more (some special V7 technology, fwiw). Also, V7 is louder, period, than the V30. Whereas the V30 - tinnier speaker. A bit harsh when maxing out the volume. However on 2nd listen it was ok. But nothing great. (in the store..). but: get an external speaker is one solution for the V30. Or headphones. Or, it's ok as is. But G7 is better.
- Great selfie-cam. 8 megapixel. Shots I saw online looked great. Whereas, V30 looked lower grade, imo, and not particularly pleasing. Maybe that can be cleaned up in post, or with better lighting? V30=5 megapixels.
Nice to haves:
V30:
- Zoom while shooting videos. -- Can tap on a portion of the screen, and the camera will smoothly zoom in to that portion of the screen. Awesome if you do your editing on the fly, instead of back at the computer. I.e., start wide, then zoom on your friend, or the guitarist on stage, etc. Very cool, imo. G7=doesn't have this. Seemingly, won't.
- Seamless full Zoom -- V30 can seamlessly zoom between the regular lense and the wide-angle one. From zoomed all the way in to the full wide (i.e. switches between the two lenses but you can't tell it's doing that). Handy, imo. Whereas: G7 can't. Pick a lense, zoom in and out within the confines of the lense you've chosen. On the smaller lense and want to go wider? stop shooting and switch lenses. So it goes. IMO, a nice touch if you want superior videography. So...nice to have,imo.
- Better video editing software. V30 has filters and whatnot for making videos look like various movie styles or something? Maybe more editing features than the G7, too? Am not totally sure. Probably a nice to have.
- That portrait mode on the V7 does look awfully nice... !
Maybes (items that may be true (unknown), and some that are true (which may matter a bit)):
V30:
- Screen burn in. In-store demo V30's have it. NOT noticeable on videos, etc. Just, like on the home screen, subtly and only once pointed out, from what I saw. But then yeah..it's definitely there. Not serious (for me..). Supposedly for consumers (that aren't running demos all day like in a store) , only after a year, and maybe only if you don't take protective measures (there are tutorials online on this). BUT...don't run Waze for hours and burn that logo in lol... IMO, since you have the V30...if it's getting burned in, obviously upgrade before it's too late and phone loses value. If it's fine...just look a tutorial and only trade in or up later...
- Screen brightness on videos. - V30's OLED made videos on youtube pop more, they seemed brighter as well. G7 was fine, V30 is better.
- V30 whiter whites. They looked whiter to me. Than the G7 (slightly gray). (whereas...V30's blacker blacks definitely mattered!).
- Make better videos (?) - Supposed to have better video recording than the V7. ? Better sensor? Cannot fully confirm.
- Better mics in general? - may be a rumor.
Doesn't Matter (imo, of course):
V30:
- Scenes - V30 has more, but most probably won't be used, imo.
- Battery life. G7's battery is smaller, but supposedly has a slightly more efficient OS or Skin or something. Supposedly comes out even.
G7:
- Oreo. G7 has it, V30 just got it, after a hiccup early in the month when the rollout was paused.
- Low light binning (combining pixels to take in more light when it's dark in the room). V30 now has that with the Oreo update. V7 always did.
- Screen brightness outside. 1000 nits on the G7. But the reviewer I saw on Youtube (in fact, the only reviewer who addressed this issue, IIRC), showed V30 is fine outside and G7 is brighter but it didn't matter to him.
- V7 has 16 megapixel wide angle lense vs: V30 wide lense: 13 megapixels.. Most people don't use this lense much for photography so....no biggie, imo.
- OS updates. PROBABLY doesn't matter, but who knows. G7 is the latest...perhaps it'll be supported sooner to OS P. and longer to further updates. LG has a bad track record with updates...but claim to be getting better at that. And V30 did just go Oreo.
- Hand feel. On first visit, without cases (in store), G7 was much more comfortable in hand. (it's thinner). I was really worried the V30 felt just too wide to be comfortable. really seemed the deal breaker. So, will you love the hand feel of the G7? Probably not, go. Because: I just tried an Otterbox Defender case on a friend's even larger phone. It rounded the edged of the bhack and....suddenly felt fine. The right case seems to fix this issue.
This was longer than I expected...hope it helps
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The G7 just doesn't have enough features to drop the V30. Now if they drop a G7 with stock android and bigger battery now I'm thinking.
SHosp said:
Also has V30 has Wallpaper motion to give your home screen a parallax effect but is absent on the G7. If you use a 3rd party launcher, you will not see these features therefore not miss anything.
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Nova launcher has had this parrallax effect for YEARS. It's even reverse parrallax, so the effect is even stronger.
But I didn't know the V30 has it as I use Nova launcher.
ChazzMatt said:
Nova launcher has had this parrallax effect for YEARS. It's even reverse parrallax, so the effect is even stronger.
But I didn't know the V30 has it as I use Nova launcher.
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Nova launcher = no knock on when on the desk face up.
I'll need to revisit that launcher; I've been on HTC's skin on my old phone up until now.
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Nova launcher has had this parrallax effect for YEARS. It's even reverse parrallax, so the effect is even stronger.
But I didn't know the V30 has it as I use Nova launcher.
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I should have explained it differently. The Motion effect uses the gyroscope of the phone to make the icons appear to float above the background image. As you tilt the phone side to side, you get a different view of the background. It's more a 3D effect than parallax.
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Nova launcher = no knock on when on the desk face up.
I'll need to revisit that launcher; I've been on HTC's skin on my old phone up until now.
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I use Nova launcher on my v30 and always use knock on. You have to give Nova admin & access. security privilege. Works just fine.
APhoneUser said:
Nova launcher = no knock on when on the desk face up.
I'll need to revisit that launcher; I've been on HTC's skin on my old phone up until now.
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With root it works EXACTLY like stock launcher.
Hello. This is for those who are still on N6P but are ready to move on, and contemplating either OnePlus 6T or Pixel 3 XL, for obvious reasons, both phones are similar size, with impressive dev activity w/ freedom to root/unlock and develop without hassle from OEM.
- I had great fun porting roms to 6P and customizing popular kernels just to make them unique, LeanKernel w/ EX features for example.
I bought the 6T midnight w/ 8gb of ram and 128 GB direct from OnePlus. A co-worker got a Pixel 3 XL from Verizon. I've played with both.
My sentiment with Pixel 3 XL
- After playing with the Pixel 3 XL, I've come to the conclusion and agreement with some others. Pixel 3 XL was not meant for us. Pixel 3 XL was not made for Nexus 6P fans. It was not made for Nexus fans. Pixel 3 XL feels more like Apple iPhone than ANY Android phone I've ever used or touched. Pixel 3 XL for me is an odd experience, because as I used it, I became aware and realized what Google tried to do with the Pixel 3 XL and why they partnered with Verizon. Verizon partnership clearly gives Pixel 3 XL the greatest opportunity and chance to convert Apple fans to Google Pixel 3 XL. I think many of your Nexus 6P owners after playing with Pixel 3 XL would come to the same conclusion. Pixel 3 XL oddly felt very simple, and LIMITED, just like an iPhone. While Pixel 3 XL fans will be able to customize to their heart's content with custom roms, mods and addons, but this stock experience left a bad taste in my mouth realizing who this phone was meant for. It was meant for the simple iPhone user who wastes their life on instagram posting selfies.
Value
- That's what the 6P was about. We all knew we would get cutting edge hardware with some sacrifices on the 6P, SD810, decent battery size, impressive EIS on the camera, latest updates, the first phone that exemplified how great fingerprint reader can be. Sacrifices to the camera and headphone output for example. But it was worth it to have an affordable, reasonably priced phone with the freedom to do with as we liked. We owned this phone, in it's entirety.
- 6T embodies that same philosophy as 6P. Cutting edge hardware with SD 845 and 8GB of ram, and blazing fast face unlock and decent on-screen fingerprint.
- The camera. 6T camera, not a debate, huge improvement over 6P. No question. Coming from 6P to 6T, you're gonna LOVE the camera. Yes it's not as good as Samsung Note 9, Huawei Mate 20, Xiaomi Mi Mix 3, Pixel 3 XL cameras, but compared to 6P, 6T camera is excellent improvement. On top of that, Pixel 3 Camera software works on 6P, takes great night pictures.
- Consider the value of the 6P and the freedom OnePlus allows, I believe the average current 6P owners will be like me, it's worth sacrificing the camera for those other gains. Als
- Pixel 3 XL has gone a different road. It's expensive. It's gimped on hardware that matters, battery, ram, no face recognition, and just an awful design, the worst designed flagship phone of 2018.
- Pixel 3 XL is NOT worth $900. It's not. You can get a Galaxy S9 Plus for less and it's a superior phone, in nearly every way. Pixel 3 XL does not deserve to be in the $900-1000 budget with Samsung, Huawei and Apple, it's just doesn't deserve to be there. Pixel 3 XL is the opposite of what Nexus was about. It's on the opposite spectrum of value.
Feel, 6T wins.
- Both 6T and Pixel 3 XL improved on feel over the 6P. They both hold in your well more comfortably than 6P. But the frosted glass on the 6T I prefer it. And it's narrower than Pixel 3 XL, it's more comfortable in my hands. Will admit the Pixel 3 XL rear is more grippy, but it's still slippery.
Hardware. 6T easily wins.
- 8GB of ram vs 4GB. Using the Pixel 3 XL, can clearly tell 4GB is not enough, even with the software updates. Baffled how Google can charge $900 for a phone w/ 4gb, baffling.
- The design. Wow, that notch, is horrifying, and so is the massive chin. Google definitely could have provided stereo speakers with almost no bezel design. Pixel 3 XL is 2018 design fail of the year. Comparing Pixel 3 XL's notch to iPhone, and other competitors, it's horrifying how bad it is. The 6T has a drop notch, and it's unwanted as well. But the 6T gets rid of the notch thanks to the OLED display, but still uses that empty space for status bar. The Pixel 3 XL does not. It's just really bad, Google clearly didn't care at launch or still.
- Pixel 3 XL microphone. Wow... The microphone on Pixel 3 XL is garbage. I don't know if it's the hardware or digital processing, either way, it is garbage. Especially recording, it's garbage.
- 6T stereo microphone recording, great. The opposite of Pixel 3 XL's garbage.
- IP68 rating. Well done some research. The OnePlus 6T undergoes gruesome QA/QI testing, including a 100 hour rain test, temperature ranging from -40 to 90 C. Watching tear down videos provide clear evidence OnePlus design includes ALL necessary details and components to achieve IP68 rating. This should be a non-issue. Also consider, none of the OEM guarantee water resistance or honor warranty for liquid damage. Samsung, HTC, Apple, Google all use liquid damage sensors in their phones. Anyone who risks liquid damage and trusts the IP68 rating is an idiot.
- The caseback. Yeah, that's a no contest. The frosted black on 6T looks better than Pixel 3 XL IMO, and it doesn't scratch like the Pixel 3 XL. And that oddity around the camera on Pixel 3 XL looks terrible, it really does.
- Pixel 3 XL does have wireless charging. But... The 6T Dash Charge charges faster than Pixel 3 XL, and... the 3700 mah battery is AWESOME. I've never run out of juice, including hours of gaming, youtube, browsing, reading etc. I never worry about the display brightness etc. For reasons I can't think of, if wireless charging is more important than Dash fast charge and 3700 mah battery, well we clearly have different needs. Battery life vs wireless charging? Really? Is that even worth discussing or debating?
- Pixel 3 XL has quad display. Yes, but it also has a blue haze, it's VERY evident. The color profiles also suck, with idiotic names like warm, what is warm and natural? Is this phone for iPhone simpletons or tech nerds? 6T display does not shift color or blue haze, and it has understandable color profiles like sRGB, DCI-3P, makes sense, call it what it is. The Pixel 3 display honestly is better than Pixel 3 XL, pay more for worse screen, what a joke.
- DisplayMate awarding top award to Pixel 3 XL is a farce. What a joke. The blue haze shift still exists on the Pixel 3 XL LG display, how that can win any award is a joke.
- Pixel 3 XL has better stereo speakers. Stock 6T has mono single speaker. I'm rocking the 6T stereo speaker mod w/ EX's kernel that allows me to adjust volume of either speaker to have level even sound from both, with true stereo sound. Still not as good as Pixel 3 XL, but is it better than 6P? I think it is, I think it has fuller sound than 6P with this mod.
- Neither phones have headphone jack. But... But... With the USB-C dongle, BOTH phones on my headphones sound much better than 6P's headphone jack output. So... consider that, both 6T and Pixel 3 XL sound is better than 6Ps.
- Pixel 3 XL without doubt has the better camera. It does. I'm not a camera fanatic. But the porting of Gcam to 6T is going well. I'm using a port that works with all features, except it shoots 4mp for front camera, and oddly is still better than stock camera's front camera, weird. I had a lot of fun taking some impressive night pics with Pixel Cam on 6T enjoying the holiday festivities.
- Pixel 3 XL front camera CRUSHES the 6T. How often do I do a selfie? NEVER. Zero f***s from me.
- 6T has hardware options to toggle alarm settings, ring, vibrate, and silent. It is as amazing as everyone says, I use it daily. Pixel 3 XL does not, nope.
Software, 6T easily wins
OxygenOS... Yes, after using OxygenOS and then using Pixel 3 XL, well Pixel 3 XL felt the way I feel when I use Apple, angry. Why are you limiting me? Why can't I do this? Why can't I do that? Pixel 3 XL experience made me angry to use, after using OxygenOS and custom roms on 6P.
- OxygenOS has 3 navigation options. ALL three I prefer to Pixel 3 XL's. Amazing right? The one navigation option on Pixel 3 XL is inferior to any of the three provided on OxygenOS.
- I always change the batter to circle w/ %, yup, OxygenOS has that covered.
- Double tape to wake with face recognition? Hell yeah, faster and more convenient to use than fingerprint on 6P.
- No LED notifications on 6T and since I don't like ambient display, oh well.
- Gaming mode, reading mode, sort of gimicky, but I do use them, a lot. They are useful. Pixel 3 XL does not.
- Unsurprising, any app features on Pixel 3 XL I use on 6T. Had no issues replacing stock apps with Google apps. There are ZERO software features from Pixel 3 XL that I desire not on 6T. None, there are absolute no reason for me to desire a Pixel 3 XL over 6T in any way.
- Do I believe OxygenOS will be preferred by any 6P user who used custom roms? Most definitely. I would even go as far as, I believe majority of 6P owners using custom roms will be satisfied with OxygenOS and not use a custom rom.
- The 6T is a smoother experience and enjoyable experience than Pixel 3 XL. I really don't think that's up for debate. 8gb ram is overkill, but you can feel the difference compared to Pixel 3 XL 4gb.
Longevity
- I'm not interested in getting a new phone every year. 6T wins for this reason alone. The 8gb of ram with the 3700 mah batter future proofs this phone more than Pixel 3 XL. And you don't have to suffer the the worst designed phone of 2018 with the 6T. A year from now, I have little doubt, that massive notch and chin will be even more annoying and aggravating as 2019 and 2020 introduces completely bezel free phones that still have stereo speakers with superior cameras and sensors. Overall I 6T is the better option for long term use. Any software advancement on Pixel 3 XL will be available on the 6T and will perform better on the 6T.
I honestly believe Google failed miserably with the Pixel 3 XL. There are so many better phones than Pixel 3 XL this year. Oppo Find X, Samsung Note 9/Galaxy S9 Plus, Huawei Mate 20, Xiaomi Mi Mix 3, and OnePlus 6T to me are all preferable to what Google offered Apple fans with Pixel 3 XL.
If camera is the reason to pay an extra $300? I think you're insane. Much better off paying for a $300 camera and a OnePlus 6T.
Totally agree with what you have said.
Pixel is a big NO NO for Nexus 6P user.
I also will get Oneplus as my next phone.
BelzIgoh said:
Totally agree with what you have said.
Pixel is a big NO NO for Nexus 6P user.
I also will get Oneplus as my next phone.
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Me too, thibking on getting the McLaren edittion with better ram, faster charging, and I'm a car fanatic.
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juan_carlos__007 said:
Me too, thibking on getting the McLaren edittion with better ram, faster charging, and I'm a car fanatic.
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I would like to get a 6T, but.... I don't think it works with Verizon.
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buchananchris said:
I would like to get a 6T, but.... I don't think it works with Verizon.
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Oh, guess I was wrong about that. Might be getting me one at some point.
I think it is important to note that the Screen Resolution on the 6T is lower compared to the 6P. I played with the 6T in a T-mobile store, and I could not help but dwell the entire time on how I could not avoid noticing the pixelation (my glasses give me perfect eyesight up close). That reason alone is why I am waiting for next year's devices, it's really disappointing to me that the 6T is basically a perfect upgrade for every other reason other than the screen, the one dealbreaker for me.
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I think it is important to note that the Screen Resolution on the 6T is lower compared to the 6P. I played with the 6T in a T-mobile store, and I could not help but dwell the entire time on how I could not avoid noticing the pixelation (my glasses give me perfect eyesight up close). That reason alone is why I am waiting for next year's devices, it's really disappointing to me that the 6T is basically a perfect upgrade for every other reason other than the screen, the one dealbreaker for me.
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Humans can't see pixels at 300 PPI at safe distances to use. 6T is 402 PPI, it's well beyond retina or beyond capability of human eyesight. To see pixels, would have to use at distance that is damaging to your eyes. I have 20/20 without glasses and definitely cannot see pixels. If you can see pixels in normal use, I can only conclude you're a cyborg with beyond human eyesight.
Only time I see pixels is using VR and currently Google Daydream well... sucks. It's fun and promising, but it has a LONG ways to go.
For me, I'm dissappointed with OnePlus is the headphone jack and the early adoption of fingerprint. Since I believe OnePlus says headphone jack would not have prevented use of 3700 mah battery, it was the fingerprint reader. Oh well, every company makes blunders and mistakes, luckily these mistakes are easy to live with.
I also consider to move to the 6T. But the downside would be the size of 6.3". I'm a small person with smaller hands. It would be awesome to have an actual OnePlus with smaller screen.
PsymH said:
I also consider to move to the 6T. But the downside would be the size of 6.3". I'm a small person with smaller hands. It would be awesome to have an actual OnePlus with smaller screen.
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If you are a 6P user, bear in mind that the 6T is actually easier to handle. Check the phones dimensions. 6T is pretty much all screen, the comparably huge bezels on 6P, plus its wider aspect ratio, make it bigger than 6T. With a smaller screen (6P's screen has about 88% surface of 6T).
As for the OP, I ended up updating from a 6P to a 6T and I have to say I'm satisfied. The front fingerprint reader does take a while to get used to, you need to learn how to better input the five fingerprints you have available but after a bit of trial and error I'm now in a place where I rarely need to try more than once to unlock the phone. And if you're less paranoid than me, face unlock apparently is blazing fast. Absence of headphone jack is annoying, there's no denying it. I bought an adapter from Fiio (BTR1K) that works well, both as a bluetooth adapter and a USB DAC (with USB C to USB C cable). It's small enough to fit in the pouch where I carry my IEMs sooo... it's an ok solution. Wished it was unnecessary but apparently you can't have it all (and Fiio's DAC and amp is probably better than most internal solutions, to be honest).
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If you are a 6P user, bear in mind that the 6T is actually easier to handle. Check the phones dimensions. 6T is pretty much all screen, the comparably huge bezels on 6P, plus its wider aspect ratio, make it bigger than 6T. With a smaller screen (6P's screen has about 88% surface of 6T).
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That's a good point. Thanks for the clarification. But:
14,16 x 7,12 x 0,78 (6P) vs.
15,75 x 7,48 x 0,82 (6T)
The entire size is still my main concern.
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If you are a 6P user, bear in mind that the 6T is actually easier to handle. Check the phones dimensions. 6T is pretty much all screen, the comparably huge bezels on 6P, plus its wider aspect ratio, make it bigger than 6T. With a smaller screen (6P's screen has about 88% surface of 6T).
As for the OP, I ended up updating from a 6P to a 6T and I have to say I'm satisfied. The front fingerprint reader does take a while to get used to, you need to learn how to better input the five fingerprints you have available but after a bit of trial and error I'm now in a place where I rarely need to try more than once to unlock the phone. And if you're less paranoid than me, face unlock apparently is blazing fast. Absence of headphone jack is annoying, there's no denying it. I bought an adapter from Fiio (BTR1K) that works well, both as a bluetooth adapter and a USB DAC (with USB C to USB C cable). It's small enough to fit in the pouch where I carry my IEMs sooo... it's an ok solution. Wished it was unnecessary but apparently you can't have it all (and Fiio's DAC and amp is probably better than most internal solutions, to be honest).
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Any 6P user concerned about fingerprint, there have been solutions to its slow speed and unreliability..
For fingerprint, have solved my issues this way. Now fast and one try.
There is a magisk mod to disable the FP animation. Huge difference in speed and reliability.
Add FP for each finger more than once.
With those two, I know longer have issues with FP.
zymphad said:
Any 6P user concerned about fingerprint, there have been solutions to its slow speed and unreliability..
For fingerprint, have solved my issues this way. Now fast and one try.
There is a magisk mod to disable the FP animation. Huge difference in speed and reliability.
Add FP for each finger more than once.
With those two, I know longer have issues with FP.
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What's the actual mod called?