Raw photos - Sony Xperia XZ1 Questions & Answers

It seems that Sony will not clean the camera of their phones. So is there any way to remove post-processing from Xz1 photos?

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[Q]Jpeg compression on X10

Hi Devs... do you know if there is a way to change the jpeg compression on Xperia X10 with android 2.1? is a little frustrating to have a 8mpx camera and be limited to 2mb photos...
8MP in a ~2MB jpeg is normal. My bro's pro Canon makes 3MB raw picture, but it's only 2MP
So what? Wait till the bootloader gets cracked. Did you see maxfron's latest post? He makes great progress on it
We don't have to wait.
Just use a different Camera-Application ( I use Camera 360 Pro, it compresses less)
Or decompile and rewrite the SE Camera-Application.
the problems is, the photos taken with the stock camera the quality of jpeg compression is very poor... i don't like vignette or camera 360, just don't feel good with the interface and in all that options there is no way to change the ISO value nor the shutter velocity, neither with the stock camera app but at least is "free".
Guys check this out
This SEMC camera mod by 28spawn works great for me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=922657
I don't think the raw format has been implemented yet in the android SDK. There are placeholders for raw functionality however. So perhaps eventually.
As for JPG compression I would think the stock sony cam app makes the most of the camera and sets quality to 100. JPG is a lossy format though so will not be perfect.
Try turning image stabilization off. It will result in a sharper image.

[REQuest] front camera panoramic photo

Is there way to make an application to stitch photos taken from "front" camera?
Or is there a way to make stock application think that it is taking shots from back camera, while in real world it is taking photos from front camera?
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[Q] Looking for an app like the Ultra-HD camera mode on the Oppo Find R5/R7

Does anyone know if there is an alternative photo app that does the same thing for normal android phones? The Ultra-HD mode can make a 50MP photo by taking a few normal 13MP pictures and combining them into an ultra high resolution one. It's not like a panoramic because you don't move the camera at all.
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DNG can't be used on anything except main camera for Pro mode

Sadly, DNG (RAW) only appears to work on the main camera.
When you're in Pro mode, the wide-angle and telephoto lenses aren't available to shoot with.
It's frustrating that this is still a limitation. Perhaps Samsung are embarrassed about the RAW images from their telephoto?
Guess I'll be looking at the Mate P20 Pro which does allow DNG on all cameras :/
Maybe its working with third party apps? Are they any that allow to switch between cameras? ProShot maybe?
Are there any solutions? No way to have RAW pics with wide camera?
It works in Hedgecam 2, apparently it works in open camera too though I couldn't work out out.
HedgeCam 2 only supports raw from the main sensor, not the wide or zoom sensors.
You can use HEIC on all sensors instead of JPG for possibly a very minor increase in colour fidelity when pushed but nothing like raw.
It's a shame that Samsung doesn't open it up. I do miss that feature from the p30 pro I had before, lots of creative possibilities in Lightroom. (the s10 takes better JPGs out of camera though)
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RAW support

Hi,
Can someone with Xperia 1 please:
1. Install "Camera2 API probe" and report if it has a green check for "RAW capture".
2. If RAW is indeed supported, please install "Open Camera" (or another third party app supporting RAW output), take some pictures in DNG format and provide the original DNG files.
3. Also take the same photos with the stock Sony cam and provide the original JPG files for comparison with the DNG.
I think this may help quite a few people since we have yet to see any evidence of RAW support and samples from Xperia 1.
Thank you in advance.
Here you go buddy :
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-FEhQP1ESsUeTmt-5EIT-dVF4eMNo5fK/view?usp=drivesdk
Thanks a lot for your quick reply.
Of course if you have a chance to post some unprocessed DNG's vs stock cam that would be great.
I'd like to test if we can extract better quality than stock from the RAW in post processing.
Raw Capture App : Camera FV-5
Hi there, I too realized that the stock camera under not so ideal conditions does not really produce the best image. Hope sony does fix it with an update, they have after years made a good phone to compete with other really hope they don't screw it up.
Coming back to topic :
I am currently using Camera FV-5 paid application and the RAW image is amazing in terms of getting a good base to play around on lightroom. I am even getting extremely impressive images by editing it on phone with Lightroom (paid full) android app.
I will try and post a google drive link in sometime, but for a quick feedback the RAW capture on Xperia 1 is good. I am sure even other 3rd party RAW apps should work well., given it has full Camera 2 API support. (Note it does not support level 3 API though)
Thank you cletusindia for your valuable info,
Can you tell me if the RAW support also applies to the telephoto and ultrawide lenses ?
Also can you access these lenses with FV-5 ? (I have FV-5 but only 1 lens on the XZ2 so I dont' know how it deals with multi-lens.)
chgr said:
Thank you cletusindia for your valuable info,
Can you tell me if the RAW support also applies to the telephoto and ultrawide lenses ?
Also can you access these lenses with FV-5 ? (I have FV-5 but only 1 lens on the XZ2 so I dont' know how it deals with multi-lens.)
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No, just the main camera. I also use Open Camera, even this app only uses main lens with digital zoom.
Also from camera2 probe (APP) i noticed the Wide angle lens does not support RAW. its only the main and telephoto lens.
cletusindia said:
No, just the main camera. I also use Open Camera, even this app only uses main lens with digital zoom.
Also from camera2 probe (APP) i noticed the Wide angle lens does not support RAW. its only the main and telephoto lens.
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That's wierd...
raw image samples
can you please share raw image samples from the xperia 1?
taken with lightroom cc. f/1.6. auto wb. excuse the banding as they were taken under fluorescent lighting. it's not bad imo. iso3200 is useable.
iso 64
https://drive.google.com/file/d/17ruN_o3mICXZn8Z-yvqadXLeYJidYCmY/view?usp=sharing
iso 419
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WodfZ6UH5D9vcD71tHRrgzggZLA_VNan/view?usp=sharing
iso 1228
https://drive.google.com/file/d/110P_9DNegQcFYR5o4k9fhq8B1jtjJUoF/view?usp=sharing
iso 3191
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1R665Xx6E3Jt_e1bbmFsK90ySMqgxHg5Z/view?usp=sharing
RAW
cletusindia said:
No, just the main camera. I also use Open Camera, even this app only uses main lens with digital zoom.
Also from camera2 probe (APP) i noticed the Wide angle lens does not support RAW. its only the main and telephoto lens.
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Isn't it possible to switch to the wide angle and telephoto on 3rd party apps like open camera?
It doesn't make sense sony locking it even if the JPEG are great.
LG phones have RAW on all lenses for years altought JPEG processing in the later models is not very good.

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