Im thinking about buying an xperia neo, because i want hdmi and front camera.I have had a few x10s and ended up using oodie prime miui for the last 6 months before getting my xperia ion. I loved miui and it was nice that the x10 had a lanyard hook and worked well with the rom. When I got the xperia ion almost a month ago I realized I missed my x10 with miui.. Im now looking to get a neo, if the miui is as good and stable as the one I had on x10. Heres what I want, relating to miui on neo.
1) Hold home key on lockscreen for torch flashlight
2) Hold volume up/down to change tracks while screen locked (mod)
3) call recording
4) Working blacklist and firewall.
5) hdmi
6) front camera
If all this works Im returning my Ion and getting the neo. It seems the neo is like an x10 with more function, just what I want.
Bugly Astard said:
Im thinking about buying an xperia neo, because i want hdmi and front camera.I have had a few x10s and ended up using oodie prime miui for the last 6 months before getting my xperia ion. I loved miui and it was nice that the x10 had a lanyard hook and worked well with the rom. When I got the xperia ion almost a month ago I realized I missed my x10 with miui.. Im now looking to get a neo, if the miui is as good and stable as the one I had on x10. Heres what I want, relating to miui on neo.
1) Hold home key on lockscreen for torch flashlight
2) Hold volume up/down to change tracks while screen locked (mod)
3) call recording
4) Working blacklist and firewall.
5) hdmi
6) front camera
If all this works Im returning my Ion and getting the neo. It seems the neo is like an x10 with more function, just what I want.
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I'm using Neo V(Unlocked bootloader) with MIUI 2.9.7 rom by ZduneX25 and i love it.It is based on stock Sony .587 firmware so far so good..for elegance stock rom is nothing infront of MIUI..:good:
I can confirm the following things
1) Hold home key on lockscreen for torch flashlight- Working
2) Hold volume up/down to change tracks while screen locked (mod)-Didn't checked that yet
3) call recording - Works with latest NightElf 1.5 Kernel
4) Working blacklist and firewall - Working
5) hdmi - Working
6) front camera - Working
Now the decision is yours
shadowdevil said:
I'm using Neo V(Unlocked bootloader) with MIUI 2.9.7 rom by ZduneX25 and i love it.It is based on stock Sony .587 firmware so far so good..for elegance stock rom is nothing infront of MIUI..:good:
I can confirm the following things
1) Hold home key on lockscreen for torch flashlight- Working
2) Hold volume up/down to change tracks while screen locked (mod)-Didn't checked that yet
3) call recording - Works with latest NightElf 1.5 Kernel
4) Working blacklist and firewall - Working
5) hdmi - Working
6) front camera - Working
Now the decision is yours
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Thank you for the nice response! Now a few more questions if you will.
1) Do led notifications work?
2) Does night elf kernel come with the rom or can you provide a link please?
Either way I am ordering the phone, and I hope to contribute to this forum soon.
Why don't you get the Xperia S? It's about €350> now, if you wait a few month, it might be below €300. There's also official MIUI for the S.
But MIUI V4 is indeed very nice, no bugs, MaxWorks ports the update every week. Only downside is that it's very RAM hungry, you won't be able to use heavy apps smoothly (e.g. Maps, YouTube, Music player etc.), also games might close due to RAM shortage.
Bugly Astard said:
Thank you for the nice response! Now a few more questions if you will.
1) Do led notifications work?
2) Does night elf kernel come with the rom or can you provide a link please?
Either way I am ordering the phone, and I hope to contribute to this forum soon.
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Led Notifications works and here is the link to NightElf kernel http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1566871
As sdk16420 said its little RAM hungry bcs we have only 512MB..Xperia S is a good option..
This is what i learned from ICS if u want to play with ICS and future android versions u need atleast 1GB RAM devices so best bet is to get Xperia S or anyother devices with 1GB RAM..:good:
Cheers..!
Hello guys,
I'm actually on Existenz 3.5 rom, but I'm a bit disappointed about my Z2 performance.
It lacks of smoothness and speed also with Doom kernel and a performance oriented setup.
So, the question is, can you suggest me a configuration which includes an optimized AOSP rom + a couple of links to intergrate the Sony camera app and the noise cancelling?
I'm a bit confused, on forum I can't clearly find an answer to my need. So that's why I would like to trust on your configuraton experience
Thanks a lot!
Aosp and cm11 you cant get noise canceling however people have ported the camera app
(google it)
I recomend using stock as existenz was always kinda slugish both on my Xperia S and Z and Z2
How as you know,after update to MM ee got new camera app from Z5 bud we have limited functions now.
Im video mod we dont have options for tunnig brigtness and WB like before.Especially this for brightnes et. exposure is matter cause in most times Z2 has too light in scene when we take a video that is need to put exposure to -07 or even -1.0
Can someone port repacked camera app with these missed settigns for video or how to implement them on anyway?
Sent from Sony Xperia Z2
Going back to camera v1.0
The Xperia X has a very dim flashlight, I assume for battery saving reasons. I've noticed that the Z2 has the same issue but their development and modding community managed to correct it with a mod. Does anyone know how to do this for Xperia X F5121?
No fix avaliable....unless you want to Open Up the phone
Didn't Omni ROM make it brighter? Can't remember if it was only on Nougat or Oreo :/
I am using xz2 since last night only. And poco is coming at cheapest rates in coming days and I don't have time. Please help me out
nicholes said:
I am using xz2 since last night only. And poco is coming at cheapest rates in coming days and I don't have time. Please help me out
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Just buy it from Amazon. It will be a significant upgrade to you.
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Just buy it from Amazon. It will be a significant upgrade to you.
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BTW I am gonna buy it from Flipkart is going to start big billion sale on 29th of September I still have 3 days to think thanks for reply
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I am using xz2 since last night only. And poco is coming at cheapest rates in coming days and I don't have time. Please help me out
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I think performance wise experience would be same but Poco will have a development community advantage over Sony, Poco will have many roms, customisation, mods etc etc.. But media consumption , screen quality, camera would be much better on Sony. It's your call, which type of experience you want since you started using Sony recently.
Well I am also buying POCO this sale only because of SD845 and active development community, mine current device is Samsung G S7, I know I am gonna sacrifice on display and looks of the phone but thats okay.
prakharayush31 said:
I think performance wise experience would be same but Poco will have a development community advantage over Sony, Poco will have many roms, customisation, mods etc etc.. But media consumption , screen quality, camera would be much better on Sony. It's your call, which type of experience you want since you started using Sony recently.
Well I am also buying POCO this sale only because of SD845 and active development community, mine current device is Samsung G S7, I know I am gonna sacrifice on display and looks of the phone but thats okay.
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Yeah development community is very big advantage for me with poco.as far as camera is concern my search says it is not big difference between them both(except super slow motion of Sony) . But yeah I like screen and built quality of Sony a lot, what I dislike about Sony beside development is its flash light which is very low.flash light is very important for me. I use it daily 3-4 times in a day. Thanks for your reply p
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BTW I am gonna buy it from Flipkart is going to start big billion sale on 29th of September I still have 3 days to think thanks for reply
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If you buy it from Amazon you will get it for ₹1K cheaper. ₹15K for 6+128 variant on Amazon
nicholes said:
I am using xz2 since last night only. And poco is coming at cheapest rates in coming days and I don't have time. Please help me out
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wow!
usually such questions are easy for me! if someone asks on xda that should he/she be switching from xyz to Poco or not ..
however the involvement of Sony adds ZING to this question!
keeping specs short comings of (storage/ram/screen) of xz2 when compared to Poco f1 ASIDE.............
Remember! Xperias are Apple (iphone) of the Android world! , Sony Xperia Stockrom is fine Tuned with hardware like soul to body, the simple intervace having so much to offer as your make any xperia your daily driver is I must sayd unique Japanese touch!
- you will feel happy on the hardware specs sheet of poco once its in your hands but
- you will MISS sony Xperia Stockrom UI experience big time!
- PocoF1's display with bad viewing angles, is NOTING infront of Sony's Triluminos display backed up with Bravia Engine! ,
- also Xz1 has Stereo speakers and poco f1 don't
-Xz2 is gorilla glass 5 front and back giving premiuim feeling!
- Camera of XZ2 is way better than poco f1
- xperia is more stable and can handle acidental bricking better than many devices
now poco f1 advantages
- cheaper device with SD845 no bumps curves or slippery finish so if you drop it and it breaks! it won't give your heart attack!
- poco f1 is very popular on xda and you will find many roms and kernels on and off Xda!
- rooting poco is piece of cake once boot is unlocked after 72 hours! however Rooting Sony Xperia XZ family is NOT as simple as that! YOu will have to make a deal with devil , once sony sends Unlock Key, and you use that key to boot unlock your XZ2, the Digital Rights Management Keys (DRM keys) in hidden Trim Area (TA) will be Washed/wiped and now many software will support only basic features, like sd card support will be reduced to 64gb / bluetooth 3.0 only/ camera slowmotion and other premium features wont work, fast charging wont work, bravia engine wont work, mega Bass and other sound effects won't work! ... there are long and serious work around and methods to EXTRACT TA partitions before unlocking the bootloader! but whether it works or not! only you can tell by trying these comlicated methods!
- Xz2 is not popular on xda hence i don't think so there are many custom roms or kernels! but then Sony Stockrom is itself is enough
- on custom rom! it never hangs! you can use dozen of social media apps and you will hardly notice any lags!
problems with POCO
- gosh touch issues are constantly bieng reported on various MIUI builds time to time!
- bad viewing angle makes your eyes water when you try to watch movies longer!
- modified vendor image has usb tethering error on 3g which makes system ui crashes and/or random reboots!
- I personaly found 4g connectivity issues many times on miui and or custom rom on various kernels! I am always rebooting or Toggling Airplane mode for poco to register itlef on the nearest tower with fresh ip! , where my Xperia works amazing on both 3g/4g
YasuHamed said:
wow!
usually such questions are easy for me! if someone asks on xda that should he/she be switching from xyz to Poco or not ..
however the involvement of Sony adds ZING to this question!
keeping specs short comings of (storage/ram/screen) of xz2 when compared to Poco f1 ASIDE.............
Remember! Xperias are Apple (iphone) of the Android world! , Sony Xperia Stockrom is fine Tuned with hardware like soul to body, the simple intervace having so much to offer as your make any xperia your daily driver is I must sayd unique Japanese touch!
- you will feel happy on the hardware specs sheet of poco once its in your hands but
- you will MISS sony Xperia Stockrom UI experience big time!
- PocoF1's display with bad viewing angles, is NOTING infront of Sony's Triluminos display backed up with Bravia Engine! ,
- also Xz1 has Stereo speakers and poco f1 don't
-Xz2 is gorilla glass 5 front and back giving premiuim feeling!
- Camera of XZ2 is way better than poco f1
- xperia is more stable and can handle acidental bricking better than many devices
now poco f1 advantages
- cheaper device with SD845 no bumps curves or slippery finish so if you drop it and it breaks! it won't give your heart attack!
- poco f1 is very popular on xda and you will find many roms and kernels on and off Xda!
- rooting poco is piece of cake once boot is unlocked after 72 hours! however Rooting Sony Xperia XZ family is NOT as simple as that! YOu will have to make a deal with devil , once sony sends Unlock Key, and you use that key to boot unlock your XZ2, the Digital Rights Management Keys (DRM keys) in hidden Trim Area (TA) will be Washed/wiped and now many software will support only basic features, like sd card support will be reduced to 64gb / bluetooth 3.0 only/ camera slowmotion and other premium features wont work, fast charging wont work, bravia engine wont work, mega Bass and other sound effects won't work! ... there are long and serious work around and methods to EXTRACT TA partitions before unlocking the bootloader! but whether it works or not! only you can tell by trying these comlicated methods!
- Xz2 is not popular on xda hence i don't think so there are many custom roms or kernels! but then Sony Stockrom is itself is enough
- on custom rom! it never hangs! you can use dozen of social media apps and you will hardly notice any lags!
problems with POCO
- gosh touch issues are constantly bieng reported on various MIUI builds time to time!
- bad viewing angle makes your eyes water when you try to watch movies longer!
- modified vendor image has usb tethering error on 3g which makes system ui crashes and/or random reboots!
- I personaly found 4g connectivity issues many times on miui and or custom rom on various kernels! I am always rebooting or Toggling Airplane mode for poco to register itlef on the nearest tower with fresh ip! , where my Xperia works amazing on both 3g/4g
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Yeah quite correct and clear post on topic in detail. DRM keys and deal with the devil is my real problem, also lake of custom ROMs and lake of community support makes me to buy Poco F1 over Sony Xz2. I am gonna by it tomorrow cheers
So finally I got poco coming in 3 days.
Meanwhile I wanted to know (off topic :angel
Does miui has automatic call recording,?
And which custom rom has these features
Automatic call recording
Button mapping ( button to kill apps, multi windows, switch recent app)
Screen shot in power button
Press and hold power button for torch (while screen is locked
These are the most important things for me please answer. Thanks
Also tell me how many of them can I find in miui?
After all this is my first experience with miui
nicholes said:
So finally I got poco coming in 3 days.
Meanwhile I wanted to know (off topic :angel
Does miui has automatic call recording,?
And which custom rom has these features
Automatic call recording
Button mapping ( button to kill apps, multi windows, switch recent app)
Screen shot in power button
Press and hold power button for torch (while screen is locked
These are the most important things for me please answer. Thanks
Also tell me how many of them can I find in miui?
After all this is my first experience with miui
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for MIUI
since MIUI8 , the dial has automatic CALL recording (GSM calls ONLY)
- only Button MIRROR is available in miui ( recent app style is TILES only (not oreo Stack)
- swip three fingers down has screen shot gesture, ( I don't thinks so power button has such thing )
- pressing power button twice may trigger torch (you can set this guesture from miui gestures) (since miui 5)
about custom roms,
- call recorder is embeded in most of them (gsm only)
- button mapping is also available but not in every rom! you should try RR however navbar can be tweaked in nearly all roms! (havoc, crdroid, RR are the best)
- hardware keys can be configured on deep level! power menu can have many or few options as per your configuration
- you can configure torch on power button toggle (i am on havoc)
H-O-W-E-V-E-R
since you said its your FIRST expeirence with MIUI, I don't want to be a bummer or wana scare you off from poco! but........ since you are my type of person who give importance to certain types of customizations then I am affraid you will NOT like Miui very much!
why ???
- MIUI (atleast on poco) have no KEYBOARD switch key in navbar, if you have two or more keyboards installed (gboard and/or swiftkey) everytime you will have to swipe down the notification find SELECT INPUT METHOD to change /toggle between keyboards! where on stock android and in all custom roms (LOS based or CAF based) have this feature appears in either LEFT or RIGHT (or both) sides of navigation bar (you can customize)
- miui navbar stays WHITE most of the times and for me its annoying!
- miui recent screen has tiles method which is very annoying for me!
- you cannot disable any bloatware! you must ROOT your device and have third part app to do that!
-poco has modified vendor image ( i am gonna avoid details here) , so the impact is you must ditch MIUI kernel for poco and have custom kernel like FRANCO/ Twisted / OD / sphinx etc and use kernel manager app if you wana BOOST sound/volumes etc
- poco screen is unlike sony so i use custom kernel for KCAL to enrich vibrance
- notification method on miui is strange! , i noticed it puts LATEST msg from any one in the BOTTOM of that tile, for example if you recieve 3 msgs from 3 users on whatsapp apart few seconds each, stock android puts latest on top within WHATSSAPP tile, howeve miui puts it on bottom, so kept reading obsolete notification lines unless i became annoyed! , same case should be with emails too ( I don't remember that)
- miui has limited quick setting icons! i wanted to add toggle 3g/4g and usb tethering on Quick Setting Panel but i had to do that from netwrok settings always!
- due to modified vendor image, all custom roms have this BUG where if you tether 3g , the System ui craches or many com.android.phone starts crashing! so try to avoid usb tethering on 3g network!
nvm ... didnt c the previous comments
cheers!
YasuHamed said:
for MIUI
since MIUI8 , the dial has automatic CALL recording (GSM calls ONLY)
- only Button MIRROR is available in miui ( recent app style is TILES only (not oreo Stack)
- swip three fingers down has screen shot gesture, ( I don't thinks so power button has such thing )
- pressing power button twice may trigger torch (you can set this guesture from miui gestures) (since miui 5)
about custom roms,
- call recorder is embeded in most of them (gsm only)
- button mapping is also available but not in every rom! you should try RR however navbar can be tweaked in nearly all roms! (havoc, crdroid, RR are the best)
- hardware keys can be configured on deep level! power menu can have many or few options as per your configuration
- you can configure torch on power button toggle (i am on havoc)
H-O-W-E-V-E-R
since you said its your FIRST expeirence with MIUI, I don't want to be a bummer or wana scare you off from poco! but........ since you are my type of person who give importance to certain types of customizations then I am affraid you will NOT like Miui very much!
why ???
- MIUI (atleast on poco) have no KEYBOARD switch key in navbar, if you have two or more keyboards installed (gboard and/or swiftkey) everytime you will have to swipe down the notification find SELECT INPUT METHOD to change /toggle between keyboards! where on stock android and in all custom roms (LOS based or CAF based) have this feature appears in either LEFT or RIGHT (or both) sides of navigation bar (you can customize)
- miui navbar stays WHITE most of the times and for me its annoying!
- miui recent screen has tiles method which is very annoying for me!
- you cannot disable any bloatware! you must ROOT your device and have third part app to do that!
-poco has modified vendor image ( i am gonna avoid details here) , so the impact is you must ditch MIUI kernel for poco and have custom kernel like FRANCO/ Twisted / OD / sphinx etc and use kernel manager app if you wana BOOST sound/volumes etc
- poco screen is unlike sony so i use custom kernel for KCAL to enrich vibrance
- notification method on miui is strange! , i noticed it puts LATEST msg from any one in the BOTTOM of that tile, for example if you recieve 3 msgs from 3 users on whatsapp apart few seconds each, stock android puts latest on top within WHATSSAPP tile, howeve miui puts it on bottom, so kept reading obsolete notification lines unless i became annoyed! , same case should be with emails too ( I don't remember that)
- miui has limited quick setting icons! i wanted to add toggle 3g/4g and usb tethering on Quick Setting Panel but i had to do that from netwrok settings always!
- due to modified vendor image, all custom roms have this BUG where if you tether 3g , the System ui craches or many com.android.phone starts crashing! so try to avoid usb tethering on 3g network!
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Wow wow wow :good:
Thanks for giving me your precious time and so much detailed answer
such a great pleasure to read your post.
This is also one of the reason why I prefer poco over Sony (community support)
After reading your post I think I should try miui first before installing any custom rom. Obviously I would root it first
Thanks again