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I hope I don't get burnt for this and hopefully someone finds this useful.
Initial comparison between my new nexus 6p and iphone 6s plus. Please bear in mind no special equipment was used to do the comparison just my eyes and hands.
Design
It's personal preference
I prefer nexus 6p look especially the back, the side bezel. And not to forget the notification light.
In the hand
Iphone 6s plus feels more premium, more solid, comfortable and slimmer.
Nexus 6p feels light, bit fragile and flimsy.
I prefer the iphone 2.5D slight curvature at the edge screen, again looks more premium then the flat screen of nexus 6p.
Iphone material is superior.
Camera and video
It's a tuff one for once nexus 6p can actually compete with top end phone cameras. Which ever you get you won't be disappointed with camera quality but I think overall iphone camera is more reliable with Optical image stabilisation.
Video recording and playback again would give this to iphone just much smoother and no jittering which I found on nexus 6p. Again I'm being picky due to the level of competition.
Software
Definitely stock android so much more customisation and shortcuts. I've jailbroken my iphone and it does improve significantly as far as customisation is concerned, with all the cydia tweaks available it does make it more difficult to choose one over the other.
Screen
QHD vs 1080
Tbh its difficult to tell with the naked eye but is noticeable ever so slightly.
Amoled is more vibrant and brightness is about the same compared to iphone but I do prefer the 2.5d screen and 3d touch on the iphone. Nexus edges it especially when playing 2k content.
Speakers
Positioning would benefit nexus of course but I found iphone sound more crisp.
Volume levels about the same and again iPhone wins.
Fingerprint
Positioning goes to iphone I prefer at the front. Unlocking speed goes to nexus 6p.
Accuracy both work excellently but because of the placement iphone wins it.
Price
Value for money its a no brainer, nexus 6p of course.
Battery life
Not tested so no comment.
Overall
It's a very difficult choice, prior to testing my nexus I would have said nexus 6p based on specs. Now I'm not so sure, gosh. I suppose if I was really pushed I would go for iphone, I think.
Pics of them beside each other from all angles please.
EVOme said:
Pics of them beside each other from all angles please.
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Here are few pic samples
im sure he meant the actual phones..
Wrong pics lol
I'm using my axon elite to take pics which doesn't have the best of camera's.
Just buy the 6+ and be done with it. I am sure you will have fun trying to be half as productive while using iOS.
There's another thread for this.
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Poor review, nuff said
Cheers for your feedback.
How does the 6P feel in your hands vs the 6s Plus? Meaning, does one feel bulkier than the other or is the feel about the same given they're almost the same size?
Not very helpful but thx anyway!
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How does the 6P feel in your hands vs the 6s Plus? Meaning, does one feel bulkier than the other or is the feel about the same given they're almost the same size?
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iPhone is heavier but feels more comfortable to hold. Nexus feels less sturdy due to weight but some may prefer the lighter phone and iPhone feels more solid.
Another thing I've noticed the back of nexus can be pushed down ever so slightly.
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Not very helpful but thx anyway!
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What would make it more useful?
riz157 said:
iPhone is heavier but feels more comfortable to hold. Nexus feels less sturdy due to weight but some may prefer the lighter phone and iPhone feels more solid.
Another thing I've noticed the back of nexus can be pushed down ever so slightly.
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Thanks. I will be adding a case to mine so pushing on the back won't be an issue. What makes the 6s Plus more comfortable to hold? Is it the rounded edges or something else?
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Thanks. I will be adding a case to mine so pushing on the back won't be an issue. What makes the 6s Plus more comfortable to hold? Is it the rounded edges or something else?
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Rounded edges and iPhone being slimmer.
I think fingerprint reader on the back is so much better. I've gotten to the point where I just unlock it as I'm taking my phone out of my pocket. It almost makes the power button obsolete. On iPhone 6, the fingerprint is in good position, but on the plus, it's harder to get to it because you gotta balance a big phone with one hand while you get the thumb on the fingerprint reader.
I also think 6P is more comfortable to hold because it isn't as slippery. It's like comparing iPhone 6 with iPhone 5. Size-difference aside, the 5's more squarish edges make it easier to hold and are less slippery.
Anyways they're both great phones, you can't really go wrong. At this point it's all about which OS you like better. I honestly don't think either one is better than other, hardware-wise. They are very very close.
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Just buy the 6+ and be done with it. I am sure you will have fun trying to be half as productive while using iOS.
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I have both.
dewedMountain said:
I think fingerprint reader on the back is so much better. I've gotten to the point where I just unlock it as I'm taking my phone out of my pocket. It almost makes the power button obsolete. On iPhone 6, the fingerprint is in good position, but on the plus, it's harder to get to it because you gotta balance a big phone with one hand while you get the thumb on the fingerprint reader.
I also think 6P is more comfortable to hold because it isn't as slippery. It's like comparing iPhone 6 with iPhone 5. Size-difference aside, the 5's more squarish edges make it easier to hold and are less slippery.
Anyways they're both great phones, you can't really go wrong. At this point it's all about which OS you like better. I honestly don't think either one is better than other, hardware-wise. They are very very close.
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Valid points, thanks for your contribution.
I don't have the phone yet, but really the SINGLE SPEAKER on the iPhone is better than the DUAL, FRONT FACING, STEREO SPEAKKERRSS???
How/where is video playback stuttery on the 6P?
How is the camera more reliable on the 6S+? Better shots, more detail??
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Not very comprehensive and detailed. I didn't really learn anything from it. Not bashing you just giving feedback.
I've had my phone for two days so far. After spending six months on a Galaxy S6 parts of me are very happy to be home with the Nexus line again.. mainly pure Android and the development sure to come. However, I've noticed two things so far with which I'm not terribly happy.
First, those bezels. Christ, there has to be damn near 1 1/2 inches of bezel on this phone. I thought phones were moving towards a smaller and smaller bezel these days. Apparently Google and Huawei didn't get the memo.
Second, no matter how much they tried to sell it, the camera is just not anywhere near the level of (at least) Samsung's. This camera doesn't even belong in the same sentence as the word Samsung. It doesn't have the ability to snap a clear shot of anything moving, even of my small dog walking. Any motion equals blurry pics. The camera is actually why I tried the S6. It's also why I loved it. Of course, I hated just about everything else on the S6 (even the international unlocked version I bought).
I guess we'll see whether the camera, which is the most important part of the phone for me (kids, animals) ends up being bad enough to seek another phone with a better one.
Your thoughts after using it for a few days?
Don't have mine yet. (Thanks huawei) but hopefully some Google updates can make this a better experience for you. I know the nexus 5 had some updates that improved the camera a bit.
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Is this problem with moving subjects with hdr on?
Because if I'm not mistaken, Google camera has some cool but heavy post processing on photos taken with hdr+ and even the capture itself seems a bit slow at times.
This on my Nexus 5 and from what I've seen in videos it's the same pretty much with the 6p. It gives awesome results once you learn how to use it, I've taken some epic shots with my N5 and the camera is crappy.
Just don't use it for moving scenes.
I ended up writing too much xD
So, is this issue with regular hrd off shots also?
Yeah, definitely check HDR is off for motion. That and lots of light. Even with the bigger pixel size, these camera sensors are tiny and have no chance with motion in low light.
I'm actually curious about more opinions on this. I just listed my Note 5 because I had a Nexus 5 before and I want to go back to Nexus with the 6P. The camera doesn't matter that much to me because I use a DSLR for any pictures I actually care about. I'm sure it's still a massive improvement over the Nexus 5 camera I had for years, hah.
I had the s6 and note 5. I will agree that the note 5 is the better of the two, however it's not miles ahead of the 6p. If I graded them on a scale 1 to 100, the note 5 would be 95 and the nexus 6p would be an 90
Got one today. My impression is by far best nexus phone. Only thing i wish thr power button was more stiff its too light.
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I had the s6 and note 5. I will agree that the note 5 is the better of the two, however it's not miles ahead of the 6p. If I graded them on a scale 1 to 100, the note 5 would be 95 and the nexus 6p would be an 90
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That's kind of how I feel. The Note 5 is very likely the best phone on the market right now, but it's still not a Nexus. And while I like the Exynos hardware, you're stuck with the lack of software. I feel like the screen is by far the best part of the Note though, so I was quite surprised to hear the same screen on the 6P or else I might have waited in the first place.
I'm in love with mine. Just arrived today. Screen is beautiful. Signal/radio is far superior to Samsung....even better than my Busted G3, and I haven't had service this good since I used HTC. Size is bigger than I would have liked. But I knew it was big going in. G3 was about my limit...and this is a tad larger. I'll get used to it. Love the bigger screen but it's just a tad to big for one hand all the time. Fingerprint sensor is flawless for me. Camera seems fine so far for me, but my complaint is the higher resolution photos are only 4:3, not 16:9. Battery life will take a few days to test. I thought I might have to root and rom because I hate the menu set up on my Nexus 7 (2013) but this is ok for me. No complaints.
BTW to the OP...the top and bottom bezels are for the speakers. No bottom speaker, than I would bet smaller bezel.
The Note 5 certainly does have the best hardware. As for the best phone that is subjective. The nexus P is certainly a great contender and at it's price point it is a superior device. No, it isn't the "best" in every category. Neither is the Note 5 or any device for that matter. All depends on what you're looking for. If you don't care about updates, development and the issues that plague samsung phones (memory management for one) then by all means get one. It is a solid device. One of the best out there.
What kept me from buying Samsung is development sucks for them, they lock down devices on the two best carriers in the USA and I'm tired of the Touchwiz bloat. Oh and its almost twice the price. If those were not true I'd gladly give Samsung my money again.
The Nexus P is a very well built device with a display that is very close to the Note 5, a very good camera, great battery life, excellent performance and you are guaranteed to have excellent development here and updates from Google.
Pick which one is more important to you.
I'm the same as the OP in the sense I came to the 6p after 6 frustrating months with the s6.
The screen, camera size and design of the s6 is pretty amazing. Excellent in all regards. But the software... Awful. Multitasking was impossible and touchwiz just annoyed me.
The 6p software is pure and fast. Excellent.
But I agree the camera and screen aren't in the same league as the s6 really.
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That's kind of how I feel. The Note 5 is very likely the best phone on the market right now, but it's still not a Nexus. And while I like the Exynos hardware, you're stuck with the lack of software. I feel like the screen is by far the best part of the Note though, so I was quite surprised to hear the same screen on the 6P or else I might have waited in the first place.
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exactly, the note5 is a great phone however if you want stock, are sick of waiting for updates, AND are stuck with one that can't be rooted depending on your carrier you'll move to the 6p like i did.
If you guys got a good pair of headphones then you'll notice the quality of the stock tuning is amazing. Wow in impressed from stock. Not bad google not bad
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Also coming from an S6..
The S6 screen, form factor and stock e-mail app (Exchange still sucks on Gmail) are the only things I'll miss (Maybe the Camera but I really haven't used the 6P Camera much to make that judgement).
The positives though outweigh the negatives.. much stronger latch on to wifi and mobile signal compared to the S6. Places where I would drop out of wifi completly on the s6 still give me 3-4 bars on the 6p. Software.. so much smoother than touchwiz (I'd forgotten how buttery stock android really is). Everything about the device feels faster as a result of the software even though specs wise the S6 out-guns the 6p. Battery life is awesome compared to the S6 - no more mid-day charge required.
I still dream of another Samsung Nexus...
The only bother I have is the screen has a rainbow reflection and I can't read it in my car or in the sun
The only thing that's bugging the hell out of me is the bezels but that's just because the Nexus 6 bezels were so small other than that I'm loving it
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Praises:
Faster/smoother experience vs. my S6
Screen is nearly identical to S6
Stereo speakers are great
Complaints:
Headphone volume seems extra low
FuMMoD said:
If you guys got a good pair of headphones then you'll notice the quality of the stock tuning is amazing. Wow in impressed from stock. Not bad google not bad
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I was also vary impressed of the sound quality from just out of the box. I’ve all was prefer stock android but one of the main reasons that I root my phones was to use Viper but now I have been thinking that I’ll won't have to.
BTW:
Headphone - Bose
Bluetooth Earbuds - JayBird X
Only complaint so far is the volume and power buttons being in the middle. the first thing I did was unlock decrypt and root . Plugging in and unplugging the cable I would always hit the power button which sucked when I was in bootloader mode and I plug my cable in and damn the phone is booting because my hand touched the power button. other than that this phone is ace . I need my other cases to come in. I had two verus cases but they weren't cut right so I sending them back for a return.
I'm coming from a oneplus one so I'm sure the camera will be better when mine arrives lol
I`m using this as my work phone, probably the best built Android Device I have ever used. I mainly use iOS devices, but this Nexus 6p is maybe the first Android device I could see my self using as a daily driver assuming I did not use iOS for personal use. Great Device, I had the LG G4 and the S6 edge earlier this yr and enjoy the build quality on this far more, but I will say the s6 has the best phone I used all year on a phone in comparison to the g4, 6p and the 6s+ I use as a personal phone.
Hello. This is for those who are still on N6P but are ready to move on, and contemplating either OnePlus 6T or Pixel 3 XL, for obvious reasons, both phones are similar size, with impressive dev activity w/ freedom to root/unlock and develop without hassle from OEM.
- I had great fun porting roms to 6P and customizing popular kernels just to make them unique, LeanKernel w/ EX features for example.
I bought the 6T midnight w/ 8gb of ram and 128 GB direct from OnePlus. A co-worker got a Pixel 3 XL from Verizon. I've played with both.
My sentiment with Pixel 3 XL
- After playing with the Pixel 3 XL, I've come to the conclusion and agreement with some others. Pixel 3 XL was not meant for us. Pixel 3 XL was not made for Nexus 6P fans. It was not made for Nexus fans. Pixel 3 XL feels more like Apple iPhone than ANY Android phone I've ever used or touched. Pixel 3 XL for me is an odd experience, because as I used it, I became aware and realized what Google tried to do with the Pixel 3 XL and why they partnered with Verizon. Verizon partnership clearly gives Pixel 3 XL the greatest opportunity and chance to convert Apple fans to Google Pixel 3 XL. I think many of your Nexus 6P owners after playing with Pixel 3 XL would come to the same conclusion. Pixel 3 XL oddly felt very simple, and LIMITED, just like an iPhone. While Pixel 3 XL fans will be able to customize to their heart's content with custom roms, mods and addons, but this stock experience left a bad taste in my mouth realizing who this phone was meant for. It was meant for the simple iPhone user who wastes their life on instagram posting selfies.
Value
- That's what the 6P was about. We all knew we would get cutting edge hardware with some sacrifices on the 6P, SD810, decent battery size, impressive EIS on the camera, latest updates, the first phone that exemplified how great fingerprint reader can be. Sacrifices to the camera and headphone output for example. But it was worth it to have an affordable, reasonably priced phone with the freedom to do with as we liked. We owned this phone, in it's entirety.
- 6T embodies that same philosophy as 6P. Cutting edge hardware with SD 845 and 8GB of ram, and blazing fast face unlock and decent on-screen fingerprint.
- The camera. 6T camera, not a debate, huge improvement over 6P. No question. Coming from 6P to 6T, you're gonna LOVE the camera. Yes it's not as good as Samsung Note 9, Huawei Mate 20, Xiaomi Mi Mix 3, Pixel 3 XL cameras, but compared to 6P, 6T camera is excellent improvement. On top of that, Pixel 3 Camera software works on 6P, takes great night pictures.
- Consider the value of the 6P and the freedom OnePlus allows, I believe the average current 6P owners will be like me, it's worth sacrificing the camera for those other gains. Als
- Pixel 3 XL has gone a different road. It's expensive. It's gimped on hardware that matters, battery, ram, no face recognition, and just an awful design, the worst designed flagship phone of 2018.
- Pixel 3 XL is NOT worth $900. It's not. You can get a Galaxy S9 Plus for less and it's a superior phone, in nearly every way. Pixel 3 XL does not deserve to be in the $900-1000 budget with Samsung, Huawei and Apple, it's just doesn't deserve to be there. Pixel 3 XL is the opposite of what Nexus was about. It's on the opposite spectrum of value.
Feel, 6T wins.
- Both 6T and Pixel 3 XL improved on feel over the 6P. They both hold in your well more comfortably than 6P. But the frosted glass on the 6T I prefer it. And it's narrower than Pixel 3 XL, it's more comfortable in my hands. Will admit the Pixel 3 XL rear is more grippy, but it's still slippery.
Hardware. 6T easily wins.
- 8GB of ram vs 4GB. Using the Pixel 3 XL, can clearly tell 4GB is not enough, even with the software updates. Baffled how Google can charge $900 for a phone w/ 4gb, baffling.
- The design. Wow, that notch, is horrifying, and so is the massive chin. Google definitely could have provided stereo speakers with almost no bezel design. Pixel 3 XL is 2018 design fail of the year. Comparing Pixel 3 XL's notch to iPhone, and other competitors, it's horrifying how bad it is. The 6T has a drop notch, and it's unwanted as well. But the 6T gets rid of the notch thanks to the OLED display, but still uses that empty space for status bar. The Pixel 3 XL does not. It's just really bad, Google clearly didn't care at launch or still.
- Pixel 3 XL microphone. Wow... The microphone on Pixel 3 XL is garbage. I don't know if it's the hardware or digital processing, either way, it is garbage. Especially recording, it's garbage.
- 6T stereo microphone recording, great. The opposite of Pixel 3 XL's garbage.
- IP68 rating. Well done some research. The OnePlus 6T undergoes gruesome QA/QI testing, including a 100 hour rain test, temperature ranging from -40 to 90 C. Watching tear down videos provide clear evidence OnePlus design includes ALL necessary details and components to achieve IP68 rating. This should be a non-issue. Also consider, none of the OEM guarantee water resistance or honor warranty for liquid damage. Samsung, HTC, Apple, Google all use liquid damage sensors in their phones. Anyone who risks liquid damage and trusts the IP68 rating is an idiot.
- The caseback. Yeah, that's a no contest. The frosted black on 6T looks better than Pixel 3 XL IMO, and it doesn't scratch like the Pixel 3 XL. And that oddity around the camera on Pixel 3 XL looks terrible, it really does.
- Pixel 3 XL does have wireless charging. But... The 6T Dash Charge charges faster than Pixel 3 XL, and... the 3700 mah battery is AWESOME. I've never run out of juice, including hours of gaming, youtube, browsing, reading etc. I never worry about the display brightness etc. For reasons I can't think of, if wireless charging is more important than Dash fast charge and 3700 mah battery, well we clearly have different needs. Battery life vs wireless charging? Really? Is that even worth discussing or debating?
- Pixel 3 XL has quad display. Yes, but it also has a blue haze, it's VERY evident. The color profiles also suck, with idiotic names like warm, what is warm and natural? Is this phone for iPhone simpletons or tech nerds? 6T display does not shift color or blue haze, and it has understandable color profiles like sRGB, DCI-3P, makes sense, call it what it is. The Pixel 3 display honestly is better than Pixel 3 XL, pay more for worse screen, what a joke.
- DisplayMate awarding top award to Pixel 3 XL is a farce. What a joke. The blue haze shift still exists on the Pixel 3 XL LG display, how that can win any award is a joke.
- Pixel 3 XL has better stereo speakers. Stock 6T has mono single speaker. I'm rocking the 6T stereo speaker mod w/ EX's kernel that allows me to adjust volume of either speaker to have level even sound from both, with true stereo sound. Still not as good as Pixel 3 XL, but is it better than 6P? I think it is, I think it has fuller sound than 6P with this mod.
- Neither phones have headphone jack. But... But... With the USB-C dongle, BOTH phones on my headphones sound much better than 6P's headphone jack output. So... consider that, both 6T and Pixel 3 XL sound is better than 6Ps.
- Pixel 3 XL without doubt has the better camera. It does. I'm not a camera fanatic. But the porting of Gcam to 6T is going well. I'm using a port that works with all features, except it shoots 4mp for front camera, and oddly is still better than stock camera's front camera, weird. I had a lot of fun taking some impressive night pics with Pixel Cam on 6T enjoying the holiday festivities.
- Pixel 3 XL front camera CRUSHES the 6T. How often do I do a selfie? NEVER. Zero f***s from me.
- 6T has hardware options to toggle alarm settings, ring, vibrate, and silent. It is as amazing as everyone says, I use it daily. Pixel 3 XL does not, nope.
Software, 6T easily wins
OxygenOS... Yes, after using OxygenOS and then using Pixel 3 XL, well Pixel 3 XL felt the way I feel when I use Apple, angry. Why are you limiting me? Why can't I do this? Why can't I do that? Pixel 3 XL experience made me angry to use, after using OxygenOS and custom roms on 6P.
- OxygenOS has 3 navigation options. ALL three I prefer to Pixel 3 XL's. Amazing right? The one navigation option on Pixel 3 XL is inferior to any of the three provided on OxygenOS.
- I always change the batter to circle w/ %, yup, OxygenOS has that covered.
- Double tape to wake with face recognition? Hell yeah, faster and more convenient to use than fingerprint on 6P.
- No LED notifications on 6T and since I don't like ambient display, oh well.
- Gaming mode, reading mode, sort of gimicky, but I do use them, a lot. They are useful. Pixel 3 XL does not.
- Unsurprising, any app features on Pixel 3 XL I use on 6T. Had no issues replacing stock apps with Google apps. There are ZERO software features from Pixel 3 XL that I desire not on 6T. None, there are absolute no reason for me to desire a Pixel 3 XL over 6T in any way.
- Do I believe OxygenOS will be preferred by any 6P user who used custom roms? Most definitely. I would even go as far as, I believe majority of 6P owners using custom roms will be satisfied with OxygenOS and not use a custom rom.
- The 6T is a smoother experience and enjoyable experience than Pixel 3 XL. I really don't think that's up for debate. 8gb ram is overkill, but you can feel the difference compared to Pixel 3 XL 4gb.
Longevity
- I'm not interested in getting a new phone every year. 6T wins for this reason alone. The 8gb of ram with the 3700 mah batter future proofs this phone more than Pixel 3 XL. And you don't have to suffer the the worst designed phone of 2018 with the 6T. A year from now, I have little doubt, that massive notch and chin will be even more annoying and aggravating as 2019 and 2020 introduces completely bezel free phones that still have stereo speakers with superior cameras and sensors. Overall I 6T is the better option for long term use. Any software advancement on Pixel 3 XL will be available on the 6T and will perform better on the 6T.
I honestly believe Google failed miserably with the Pixel 3 XL. There are so many better phones than Pixel 3 XL this year. Oppo Find X, Samsung Note 9/Galaxy S9 Plus, Huawei Mate 20, Xiaomi Mi Mix 3, and OnePlus 6T to me are all preferable to what Google offered Apple fans with Pixel 3 XL.
If camera is the reason to pay an extra $300? I think you're insane. Much better off paying for a $300 camera and a OnePlus 6T.
Totally agree with what you have said.
Pixel is a big NO NO for Nexus 6P user.
I also will get Oneplus as my next phone.
BelzIgoh said:
Totally agree with what you have said.
Pixel is a big NO NO for Nexus 6P user.
I also will get Oneplus as my next phone.
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Me too, thibking on getting the McLaren edittion with better ram, faster charging, and I'm a car fanatic.
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Me too, thibking on getting the McLaren edittion with better ram, faster charging, and I'm a car fanatic.
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I would like to get a 6T, but.... I don't think it works with Verizon.
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I would like to get a 6T, but.... I don't think it works with Verizon.
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Oh, guess I was wrong about that. Might be getting me one at some point.
I think it is important to note that the Screen Resolution on the 6T is lower compared to the 6P. I played with the 6T in a T-mobile store, and I could not help but dwell the entire time on how I could not avoid noticing the pixelation (my glasses give me perfect eyesight up close). That reason alone is why I am waiting for next year's devices, it's really disappointing to me that the 6T is basically a perfect upgrade for every other reason other than the screen, the one dealbreaker for me.
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I think it is important to note that the Screen Resolution on the 6T is lower compared to the 6P. I played with the 6T in a T-mobile store, and I could not help but dwell the entire time on how I could not avoid noticing the pixelation (my glasses give me perfect eyesight up close). That reason alone is why I am waiting for next year's devices, it's really disappointing to me that the 6T is basically a perfect upgrade for every other reason other than the screen, the one dealbreaker for me.
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Humans can't see pixels at 300 PPI at safe distances to use. 6T is 402 PPI, it's well beyond retina or beyond capability of human eyesight. To see pixels, would have to use at distance that is damaging to your eyes. I have 20/20 without glasses and definitely cannot see pixels. If you can see pixels in normal use, I can only conclude you're a cyborg with beyond human eyesight.
Only time I see pixels is using VR and currently Google Daydream well... sucks. It's fun and promising, but it has a LONG ways to go.
For me, I'm dissappointed with OnePlus is the headphone jack and the early adoption of fingerprint. Since I believe OnePlus says headphone jack would not have prevented use of 3700 mah battery, it was the fingerprint reader. Oh well, every company makes blunders and mistakes, luckily these mistakes are easy to live with.
I also consider to move to the 6T. But the downside would be the size of 6.3". I'm a small person with smaller hands. It would be awesome to have an actual OnePlus with smaller screen.
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I also consider to move to the 6T. But the downside would be the size of 6.3". I'm a small person with smaller hands. It would be awesome to have an actual OnePlus with smaller screen.
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If you are a 6P user, bear in mind that the 6T is actually easier to handle. Check the phones dimensions. 6T is pretty much all screen, the comparably huge bezels on 6P, plus its wider aspect ratio, make it bigger than 6T. With a smaller screen (6P's screen has about 88% surface of 6T).
As for the OP, I ended up updating from a 6P to a 6T and I have to say I'm satisfied. The front fingerprint reader does take a while to get used to, you need to learn how to better input the five fingerprints you have available but after a bit of trial and error I'm now in a place where I rarely need to try more than once to unlock the phone. And if you're less paranoid than me, face unlock apparently is blazing fast. Absence of headphone jack is annoying, there's no denying it. I bought an adapter from Fiio (BTR1K) that works well, both as a bluetooth adapter and a USB DAC (with USB C to USB C cable). It's small enough to fit in the pouch where I carry my IEMs sooo... it's an ok solution. Wished it was unnecessary but apparently you can't have it all (and Fiio's DAC and amp is probably better than most internal solutions, to be honest).
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If you are a 6P user, bear in mind that the 6T is actually easier to handle. Check the phones dimensions. 6T is pretty much all screen, the comparably huge bezels on 6P, plus its wider aspect ratio, make it bigger than 6T. With a smaller screen (6P's screen has about 88% surface of 6T).
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That's a good point. Thanks for the clarification. But:
14,16 x 7,12 x 0,78 (6P) vs.
15,75 x 7,48 x 0,82 (6T)
The entire size is still my main concern.
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If you are a 6P user, bear in mind that the 6T is actually easier to handle. Check the phones dimensions. 6T is pretty much all screen, the comparably huge bezels on 6P, plus its wider aspect ratio, make it bigger than 6T. With a smaller screen (6P's screen has about 88% surface of 6T).
As for the OP, I ended up updating from a 6P to a 6T and I have to say I'm satisfied. The front fingerprint reader does take a while to get used to, you need to learn how to better input the five fingerprints you have available but after a bit of trial and error I'm now in a place where I rarely need to try more than once to unlock the phone. And if you're less paranoid than me, face unlock apparently is blazing fast. Absence of headphone jack is annoying, there's no denying it. I bought an adapter from Fiio (BTR1K) that works well, both as a bluetooth adapter and a USB DAC (with USB C to USB C cable). It's small enough to fit in the pouch where I carry my IEMs sooo... it's an ok solution. Wished it was unnecessary but apparently you can't have it all (and Fiio's DAC and amp is probably better than most internal solutions, to be honest).
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Any 6P user concerned about fingerprint, there have been solutions to its slow speed and unreliability..
For fingerprint, have solved my issues this way. Now fast and one try.
There is a magisk mod to disable the FP animation. Huge difference in speed and reliability.
Add FP for each finger more than once.
With those two, I know longer have issues with FP.
zymphad said:
Any 6P user concerned about fingerprint, there have been solutions to its slow speed and unreliability..
For fingerprint, have solved my issues this way. Now fast and one try.
There is a magisk mod to disable the FP animation. Huge difference in speed and reliability.
Add FP for each finger more than once.
With those two, I know longer have issues with FP.
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What's the actual mod called?
So I've ventured back to android again wanting somewhat of a break from ios.
I decided to take the plunge on the note 10 but discovered that the majority of users don't get the snapdragon varient.... Which was some what of an annoyance considering it seems to be the better performing chip!
I've ordered a 7t Pro which arrives In the next few days and I'll highly expect I'll be returning the note.
Has anyone else come from the new note or tried it compaired to the 7tp?
For my uses (Gaming, Quick point and shoot camera, large screen) it makes massively more sense over the note 10.
Also... That refresh rate :victory:
Ry2mkk said:
So I've ventured back to android again wanting somewhat of a break from ios.
I decided to take the plunge on the note 10 but discovered that the majority of users don't get the snapdragon varient.... Which was some what of an annoyance considering it seems to be the better performing chip!
I've ordered a 7t Pro which arrives In the next few days and I'll highly expect I'll be returning the note.
Has anyone else come from the new note or tried it compaired to the 7tp?
For my uses (Gaming, Quick point and shoot camera, large screen) it makes massively more sense over the note 10.
Also... That refresh rate :victory:
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Also - does anyone know if you can somehow stream the phone to Windows like the note can
I have a Note 10+5G. The 7T Pro is much smoother scrolling. I also prefer the color on the 7T pro. The one big advantage to the Note is the screen size. My work phone is a S10+ and that's closer to the 7T Pro size. Disadvantage of the Samsung phones is the horrible Bixby and UI. I prefer a closer to stock Android experience. I'm keeping both for now.
Mike02z said:
I have a Note 10+5G. The 7T Pro is much smoother scrolling. I also prefer the color on the 7T pro. The one big advantage to the Note is the screen size. My work phone is a S10+ and that's closer to the 7T Pro size. Disadvantage of the Samsung phones is the horrible Bixby and UI. I prefer a closer to stock Android experience. I'm keeping both for now.
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The Note doesn't seem to have that much of a bigger screen?!
How come you're keeping both lol?
Although if I could of gotten a note with the snapdragon processor I probably would of kept it
Ry2mkk said:
The Note doesn't seem to have that much of a bigger screen?!
How come you're keeping both lol?
Although if I could of gotten a note with the snapdragon processor I probably would of kept it
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Well, the Note+ is 6.8" and the 7T Pro is 6.4". Not that big a difference but it seems bigger.
As to why plan to keep both... I've been buying 1+ phones since the beginning. I like the stability of the Samsung phones as daily drivers but like to mess with ROM's so I keep the Note for daily use and mess with the 7T Pro in my spare time. Also, I have an issue with buying the latest/greatest phones Since I never pay retail for a phone, and keep them in perfect condition, I sell many on Swappa and don't really lose much money. I don't make money but spending 50 bucks to play with a new phone for 3-6 months is worth it for me. It's basically my only hobby.
Mike02z said:
Well, the Note+ is 6.8" and the 7T Pro is 6.4". Not that big a difference but it seems bigger.
As to why plan to keep both... I've been buying 1+ phones since the beginning. I like the stability of the Samsung phones as daily drivers but like to mess with ROM's so I keep the Note for daily use and mess with the 7T Pro in my spare time. Also, I have an issue with buying the latest/greatest phones Since I never pay retail for a phone, and keep them in perfect condition, I sell many on Swappa and don't really lose much money. I don't make money but spending 50 bucks to play with a new phone for 3-6 months is worth it for me. It's basically my only hobby.
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Lol 7T Pro is 6.67", not 6.4"
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DeeZZ_NuuZZ said:
Lol 7T Pro is 6.67", not 6.4"
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LOL. Not sure why the Note feels bigger when in reality, the difference is negligible.
Mike02z said:
LOL. Not sure why the Note feels bigger when in reality, the difference is negligible.
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After having the OnePlus now, is agree that the note still feels a lot bigger...I think it's the width that gives it that feeling.
Anyway ... Major remorse.... Note 10 plus was just the nicer feeling phone.
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After having the OnePlus now, is agree that the note still feels a lot bigger...I think it's the width that gives it that feeling.
Anyway ... Major remorse.... Note 10 plus was just the nicer feeling phone.
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I feel the 7T Pro McLaren is a better overall device. Just wish I could get it on VZW's network. TM is horrible in my area.
I've been coming down the same road, currently staying with the Note10+, though.
I agree with the comments above that the 7TP is generally smoother and faster in handling, at least from the feeling. Actual game or app loading times are pretty comparable. My Note10+ is with Exynos CPU and it is less performant than the 855+, especially in graphic-intense applications like COD. A surprise was camera, as the Note10+ camera is in my opinion inferior to the one on the 7TP with GCAM.
As for size while the phones are pretty comparable in size the Note10+ screen "feels" bigger, maybe due to the more squareish appearance and the less pronounced curve in the edges . The 7TP is nicer in handling due to its more rounded corners, though.
I'll stay on the Note10+ for the time being and wait for the OP8...
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I've been coming down the same road, currently staying with the Note10+, though.
I agree with the comments above that the 7TP is generally smoother and faster in handling, at least from the feeling. Actual game or app loading times are pretty comparable. My Note10+ is with Exynos CPU and it is less performant than the 855+, especially in graphic-intense applications like COD. A surprise was camera, as the Note10+ camera is in my opinion inferior to the one on the 7TP with GCAM.
As for size while the phones are pretty comparable in size the Note10+ screen "feels" bigger, maybe due to the more squareish appearance and the less pronounced curve in the edges . The 7TP is nicer in handling due to its more rounded corners, though.
I'll stay on the Note10+ for the time being and wait for the OP8...
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I returned back to the note too, like yours its not the snap dragon variant which is a shame but in all honesty I barley play games nowadays anyway.
s3axel said:
I've been coming down the same road, currently staying with the Note10+, though.
I agree with the comments above that the 7TP is generally smoother and faster in handling, at least from the feeling. Actual game or app loading times are pretty comparable. My Note10+ is with Exynos CPU and it is less performant than the 855+, especially in graphic-intense applications like COD. A surprise was camera, as the Note10+ camera is in my opinion inferior to the one on the 7TP with GCAM.
As for size while the phones are pretty comparable in size the Note10+ screen "feels" bigger, maybe due to the more squareish appearance and the less pronounced curve in the edges . The 7TP is nicer in handling due to its more rounded corners, though.
I'll stay on the Note10+ for the time being and wait for the OP8...
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I returned back to the note too, like yours its not the snap dragon variant which is a shame but in all honesty I barley play games nowadays anyway.
I'm in the mix to possibly buy a P6 , but I'm curious what phone you're leaving behind. Plus, how has the new phone compared or not?
Galaxy S9.
So far, I'm happy with the Pixel 6 - my biggest issues have been the menu differences (coming from Android 10) and I'll admit I'm missing a couple of the features of Samsung's One UI.
Pixel 3a XL. Nearly identical overall size, but the P6 screen is much bigger (smaller bezels) and nicer. Overall the camera performance is slightly better, but having the wide angle lens is really nice. I also believe that Google will continue to tweak the software for the new camera chip and make the performance better over time. The fact that they were able to match the performance of the older camera chip (that they have been tweaking on for 3+ years) on release day is pretty amazing.
I've always purchased mid-price phones. I simply cannot bring myself to spend $1000 or more on a phone that regardless of how good it is, will need to be replaced in a few years. The price difference between the Pixel "A" series phone and the P6 was small enough and the extra features of the P6 were good enough that I decided it was worth the extra money to buy the P6. I would not however spend the extra $$ on a P6P over a P6.
I'm 100% satisfied with my upgrade and would make the same decision again after using the P6 since release day.
PS - I have zero issues with the finger print reader. I'm not running a screen protector at this time (but would like to). I have only saved each finger once as well as there has been no need to save it multiple times. I probably have a 95% first scan success rate.
Steve53 said:
Galaxy S9.
So far, I'm happy with the Pixel 6 - my biggest issues have been the menu difference coming from Android 10 (and I'll admit I'm missing a couple of the features of Samsung's One UI).
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Cool, you won't miss the bloatware
Lg Wing. Only because my hand was forced due to no more support. The phone itself was great. I hate Samsung and Apple. Motorola is basically garbage. One plus is too expensive for what I'm willing to pay, after a year on TMobile the 9pro was still above 1000. This left me with this phone as the only other reasonable choice. I am not the biggest fan so far.
Galaxy S20+.
OP8
Pixel 3... and I had a Nexus 6 before that. I love the carry size of the 3, but miss the screen of the Orca. The Pixel 6 is still narrower than the Nexus 6 was.
OP5
OP6T
Pixel 3a
OP6T
OP6T and OP8T. Great hardware. I was tired of waiting for updates.
P30 Pro. great phone but I'd broken screen, fprint reader and main mic. not economical to fix
From a OnePlus 6.
OP8
OP7T
Been rocking a Moto Z2 Force for quite awhile before this. One thing I find myself doing after owning Moto phones the past decade or so is the "chop-chop" flashlight activation. Was very convenient. Miss that feature. Oh, and it's uncrackable screen. It took a beating, got scared up...but never a crack.
pixel 5
Pixel 2.
I'll miss the size of the P2 and overall it was a solid 4 yrs of trouble free service. We'll see about the P6.