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I just discovered that you can get rid of apps from the recent apps menu (the square button next to the home button) by swiping them to the side. I don't know why this makes me so retardedly happy, but I am sure that SOMEONE else out there will also appreciate this tidbit of information.
Anyone else have any nuggets of joy to share?
I liked that trick also when I first found out. Another thing too is that you can hold down the app in recent menu and a quicksetting will come up to let you remove it from list or look at app info.
Remember though, this only removes it from recent apps list. It doesn't close down the app itself.
Does it really matter though performance wise? I Always thought Android puts background apps into an "idle" state where they dont take up any resources until used? Although it is cool for people with OCD like me
demandarin said:
I liked that trick also when I first found out. Another thing too is that you can hold down the app in recent menu and a quicksetting will come up to let you remove it from list or look at app info.
Remember though, this only removes it from recent apps list. It doesn't close down the app itself.
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Yes it does close the app. It just doesn't close background processes of the app.
Swiping an app from recent apps menu removes the app from cached memory, but keeps the background sync's (if it has any) still running. So you can kill off Facebook, but it's background sync (that would be started during system boot up anyway) remains.
You can test it, if you swipe browser from recent app's memory, it has to reload the page it was on. Same with Facebook app. But Facebook app's background process keeps running until you 'force stop' it.
Android application architecture runs in two layers, foreground and background processes. UI and the things you can use are written to memory when focus is lost from those apps, clearing them from recent apps also clears the memory those apps take at the time.
Is it useful? Yeah, for some things. But it won't improve your performance in any real noticeable way. Best you can do is swipe away apps that you don't need, keeping only apps that you want to keep in memory should you re-open them again. But that's usually too much micro-management to be worth it.
kristovaher said:
Yes it does close the app. It just doesn't close background processes of the app.
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Perhaps, BUT, not every app in the recent apps list is actually running. That's why many times (most of the time?) the screenshot isn't what you actually see when you select an app from the list--you're really restarting it.
I think it's safest and easiest to just assume that you're really only removing apps from the recent apps list, not actually managing what's running in any way.
DroidHam said:
Does it really matter though performance wise? I Always thought Android puts background apps into an "idle" state where they dont take up any resources until used? Although it is cool for people with OCD like me
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Yeah it doesn't make any difference performance wise, but it makes the menu much more useable for me =D
Thanks for this message, this is my first android device and I've been trying to figure out how to "close" applications. Did a search in here (I think), prime manual search and googled it. I am slightly OCD and like to "close" thinks that I'm not using. Harkens back to my early Windows days when you closed apps to conserve memory.
In the manual it says to close application by clicking on an X in the recent apps menu. Though unless it is super tiny, there isn't one.
redandblack1287 said:
I just discovered that you can get rid of apps from the recent apps menu (the square button next to the home button) by swiping them to the side. I don't know why this makes me so retardedly happy, but I am sure that SOMEONE else out there will also appreciate this tidbit of information.
Anyone else have any nuggets of joy to share?
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if you have the dock, 2 finger gestures on the touchpad act as screen swipes. i.e. swipe two fingers across the tab, the tab changes screens. Also, if you want to actually kill the apps, add teh asus task manager widget to a screen. works great!
elybug said:
In the manual it says to close application by clicking on an X in the recent apps menu. Though unless it is super tiny, there isn't one.
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That was an ASUS Honeycomb customization. It went away in ICS...
redandblack1287 said:
I just discovered that you can get rid of apps from the recent apps menu (the square button next to the home button) by swiping them to the side. I don't know why this makes me so retardedly happy, but I am sure that SOMEONE else out there will also appreciate this tidbit of information.
Anyone else have any nuggets of joy to share?
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if you have the dock, 2 finger gestures on the touchpad act as screen swipes. i.e. swipe two fingers across the tab, the tab changes screens. Also, if you want to actually kill the apps, add the asus task manager widget to a screen. works great!
kristovaher said:
Yes it does close the app. It just doesn't close background processes of the app.
Swiping an app from recent apps menu removes the app from cached memory, but keeps the background sync's (if it has any) still running. So you can kill off Facebook, but it's background sync (that would be started during system boot up anyway) remains.
You can test it, if you swipe browser from recent app's memory, it has to reload the page it was on. Same with Facebook app. But Facebook app's background process keeps running until you 'force stop' it.
Android application architecture runs in two layers, foreground and background processes. UI and the things you can use are written to memory when focus is lost from those apps, clearing them from recent apps also clears the memory those apps take at the time.
Is it useful? Yeah, for some things. But it won't improve your performance in any real noticeable way. Best you can do is swipe away apps that you don't need, keeping only apps that you want to keep in memory should you re-open them again. But that's usually too much micro-management to be worth it.
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that's what I meant. I should of been more clear then. just swiping it doesn't close down app "Completely", meaning no background process either. you have to use a task manager or Force stop in order to "Truly" close n stop an app from running.
elybug said:
In the manual it says to close application by clicking on an X in the recent apps menu. Though unless it is super tiny, there isn't one.
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There isn't any in ICS, only in HC.
i didn't know that either until last week! ice cream is awesome :]
Conduitz said:
if you have the dock, 2 finger gestures on the touchpad act as screen swipes. i.e. swipe two fingers across the tab, the tab changes screens. Also, if you want to actually kill the apps, add teh asus task manager widget to a screen. works great!
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You know.....that Asus task manager widget does not work on mine. It doesn't matter if I press x next to one app or select kill all - nothing happpens. I think mine is broken
I removed it from one of my home screens, no need to have it if it doesn't work
demandarin said:
that's what I meant. I should of been more clear then. just swiping it doesn't close down app "Completely", meaning no background process either. you have to use a task manager or Force stop in order to "Truly" close n stop an app from running.
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It's a bit different though, because those background processes will (likely) already be running even if you don't start the app. Most of those background processes are started by boot activity in Android and others are started by scheduling activities (such as alarms or certain notifications and sync). These will be usually restarted once app is started again too (after Force Close) and if they are not already running (and they usually are).
Force Close is unnecessary unless you know that a certain app is bad for the system and was run accidentally, etc.
I am facing issues with notifications. The phone doesnt show notification for some apps, unless we open the app. And this is not happening all the time, but is happening frequently.
Anyone know reason and fix?
I have the same issues with score apps like sofascore or flashscore. Whatsapp and some other apps working great.
momdiavlo said:
I have the same issues with score apps like sofascore or flashscore. Whatsapp and some other apps working great.
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EUI seems to have very aggressive battery optimization. For apps that do not rely on push notifications, you will need to disable auto cleaning in Power saving management/App protection. Otherwise they may get killed when running in background.
Also, check if one of these is not the reason of your problems:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/le-max-2/how-to/delayed-push-notifications-14s-fix-t3383912
I had the same problem too with Transparent Weather and Power Amp. So therefore go to Settings > Permissions > and allow Your App to launch
Same problem here. I have not found a way to reliably handle this. Tried allowing auto start for apps as well. And it should NOT be the solution that you have to lock every app in the Taskmanager and have all apps u wanna see push notifications from opened all the time. Because well, push notifications were made so you get the info when you DON'T have the app opened.
I would really like to get to the bottom of this as it really annoys me. Not even when my Internet was disabled and gets enabled it pulls all notifications. I have to open every app one after another to really see if something happened. That is a huge nono for a 2016 flagship IMHO :/
Please guys, let's try to get this fixed!
You have to set up those apps with permission to autostart and in "Battery / Power saving management / App protection" to prevend them from killing. After doing this, those apps will work as expected...
mjoach said:
EUI seems to have very aggressive battery optimization. For apps that do not rely on push notifications, you will need to disable auto cleaning in Power saving management/App protection. Otherwise they may get killed when running in background.
Also, check if one of these is not the reason of your problems:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/le-max-2/how-to/delayed-push-notifications-14s-fix-t3383912
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THis worked for me. Thank you.
Is there a way we can enable camera 2 api on le max 2??.
Guys, got my mate 20 Pro and it's a beast but, that REALLY annoying Hisearch thing is driving me nuts! I can't find a way to turn it off!
To be clear, this is the thing that if you swipe down on the screen brings up Hisearch. Trouble is, it happens all the time when pulling down the notifications. Who thought this was a good idea?!
Also, while I have you.... Is there an easy way to remove some of the stubborn Huawei crap apps? Previous on other phones, I've used something like Package Disabler Pro that didn't require root. Anything similar available that works without root?
Thanks, Pete.
I think accidentally bring HiSearch up is amuscle memory thing.
Providing you start the Swipe down from the sides of the notch (ie from on top of the notifications) then (for me at least) it reliably brings up the notifications only.
If you start the Swipe down from on top of the notch it's a little hit & miss whether you get notifications of Hi Search.
Swiping down from the middle of a screen reliably brings up HiSearch.
Well, I'm new to Huawei, so maybe I'll get used to it..
All the same, I don't like it, and would rather disable it or have the option to turn it off.
Agreed. I have a Google calendar agenda widget on one of the home screens. Every time i scroll down, the hi search come up. It's infuriating.
As far as I know, the only way to get rid of it is to switch the launcher. I use Nova, but you'll have to use the navigation bar instead of gestures otherwise the home gesture animation doesn't work properly.
Thanks, Nova has Indeed stopped it.
TBH, I really should have done that anyway shouldn't I?
I like the traditional 3 button setup anyway, so nothing lost for me.
Thanks again.
HiSearch is horrible. I also used to use a package disabler pro but that won't work on this mate 20Pro.
That HiSearch swipe is looking more and more like a Bixby button that can't be remapped.
codified_canon said:
HiSearch is horrible. I also used to use a package disabler pro but that won't work on this mate 20Pro.
That HiSearch swipe is looking more and more like a Bixby button that can't be remapped.
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How to disable Hisearch
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-20-pro/how-to/how-to-disable-hisearch-guide-t3863411
Can also use to debloat if you know what apps you want to get rid of
Nicelysedated said:
How to disable Hisearch
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-20-pro/how-to/how-to-disable-hisearch-guide-t3863411
Can also use to debloat if you know what apps you want to get rid of
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Thanks! Just what I need. That warning headline looks pretty scary lol to a guy not adept at command line. :-O
Fortunately looks like everyone is having good success and no side effects of removal yet. I'm gonna break out of my comfort zone and take the plunge. That HiSearch is truly abysmal, insultingly so.
I'm gonna do a little happy dance in the grave of HiSearch once it's dead and gone.
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Thanks! Just what I need. That warning headline looks pretty scary lol to a guy not adept at command line. :-O
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It's not scary. Just a CYA for me. I don't want to troubleshoot peoples mistakes.....
Nicelysedated said:
It's not scary. Just a CYA for me. I don't want to troubleshoot peoples mistakes.....
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Ok cool, totally understand. Exceeded my thanks quote for the day so here is one instead. :good:
It makes scrolling widgets unusable such as fenix or BBC news.... So 3rd party launcher for me. + I want the dock hiding too
You can get rid of Hi-Search with the surgical removal listed above. So far no-one has reported any side effects from doing so. What drives me nuts is that Android doesn't have the split pulldown as rule of law. Pull down ANYWHERE on the left or right to either swipe down your normal notifications screen or just the raw full system settings icons. Disabling Hi-Search doesn't help if you still have to dislocate your thumb to scrounge around on the 3 pixels that will trigger the pulldown.
it's a long time since nobody wrote here but, hey new stuff for XPERTz:
2 mobile phones: Huawei P9 Lite - Huawei Y7 2018 & no ****ing com.huawei.search package inside to remove! How's that possible? (I got rid of all the bloatware I could, using pm unistall etc... BUT CAN'T REMOVE HISEARCH )
Let me give you the chance to become more than XPERTz...
I love this phone but everytime the screen turns off whatever app I had open closes (except Google apps). Does anyone know how to fix this? And to keep my app open so I can just pick up where I left off?
Jlew7715 said:
I love this phone but everytime the screen turns off whatever app I had open closes (except Google apps). Does anyone know how to fix this? And to keep my app open so I can just pick up where I left off?
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Hello, might have something to do with the battery saving functionality. Have you turned off battery optimisation for those apps?
kratumay said:
Hello, might have something to do with the battery saving functionality. Have you turned off battery optimisation for those apps?
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Ya that is the first thing I tried and it doesn't work.
If you haven't changed any default memory management setting (see developer's settings), then try to lock the app in Recent Apps, but in this case an app will never close and will also restart at boot.
I have checked all developer options and locked the apps and they still close. Is anyone else experiencing this?
If anyone is following this it turns out that if you have a work profile and use a different lock for each profile, that is what was doing it.
Hello,
I can find Google Lens in the app list (settings), but it is missing in the app drawer. I can access a limited version with the camera, but I want the real Google Lens app in my home screen. It's too cumbersome to always go to the settings to start this app.
Does anybody know how to get Google Lens on the home screen?
Thanks in advance!
shinanqu said:
Hello,
I can find Google Lens in the app list (settings), but it is missing in the app drawer. I can access a limited version with the camera, but I want the real Google Lens app in my home screen. It's too cumbersome to always go to the settings to start this app.
Does anybody know how to get Google Lens on the home screen?
Thanks in advance!
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Did you try installing it from google play store?
Click this link and tell if you can install the app or it's detected already installed
Good day
It's already installed and I can't uninstall it. It's part of the stock apps.