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O.K.. I finally made the upgrade from my old E10i (Mini) to a Neo..
I've been comparing phones for months now and chose the Neo for its Superior Camera, forward facing camera for skype calls, Dedicated HDMI port and the recent news of the Live dock which will enable USB Hosting.. (It was a bit of a toss up between the Samsung Galaxy S2 and the Neo.. the price of the Neo won out in the end)
I will get the Neo in a couple of days (its been ordered and payed for)
Now.. I have screwed with my mini so much (it had features missing that I really needed... Dual touch, Flash Video, Apps to SD, Froyo then Gingerbread, Clockwork recovery, Wifi tethering etc) so it needed to be rooted and hacked.. but what features are really missing off the neo? (its already running gingerbread)
Do I need to modify it? or is it actually quite good out of the box?
Does rooting, unlocking the bootloader and loading custom Kernel give me any real benefits (apart from CPU overclocking?)
(as a new member of the Neo Forum.. moving over from the mini I'm asking for your advice)
Any thoughts??
Cheers
Kiwi
Till now I didn't see the reason for unlocking the boot loader. Just rooted the phone to get the clock sync to work. Without rooting, clock setting can be down to minute only - OS bypass any time difference less than 30s. Rooted OS permits to set the clock correct.
That's the only real reason for me to root the phone. Other than that were just for fun.
Out of the box it is quite good, except for the bloatware and useless shortcuts in the app drawer. Get your phone rooted and delete the bloatware (it has 2 app screens of 16 apps full of bloatware). Also move some apps to the system app partition, because the app memory is not so big (a lot bigger than the E10's, but still too small).
Unlocking the bootloader can be useful, but it's not necessary for most mods. Fact is that we can relock the bootloader easily. The only disadvantage from unlocking the bootloader is that DRM won't work after unlocking, so the music like button in the stock music player (which I never use) and TrackID won't work, even after relocking. Still, you can use Shazam instead of TrackID.
I wasn't able to root my Neo for 2 months, but it wasn't that bad. Especially after the latest update, you don't need root because screenshot making is native. I only experienced that I filled the app memory very fast.
sdk16420 said:
Out of the box it is quite good, except for the bloatware and useless shortcuts in the app drawer. Get your phone rooted and delete the bloatware (it has 2 app screens of 16 apps full of bloatware). Also move some apps to the system app partition, because the app memory is not so big (a lot bigger than the E10's, but still too small).
I wasn't able to root my Neo for 2 months, but it wasn't that bad. Especially after the latest update, you don't need root because screenshot making is native. I only experienced that I filled the app memory very fast.
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Excuse me, what do you mean with "move some apps to the system app partition"?
ingro said:
Excuse me, what do you mean with "move some apps to the system app partition"?
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If you install some apps, they install that location data/app. This partitions size is not the biggestone. If you have root you can easly remove bloatware and move the most needed apps to system/app partitions. Beacause system/app partitions have about 150+ Mb free space after you delete bloatware. Use search and you find in arc forum a thread wher is complete list app what you can delete and remove
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Holy Crap!! I forgot all about the bloatware!! Its been so long since I actually used a Stock setup on my mini I forgot about the bloatware component!! eeeek! well, that's probably the biggest plus for rooting! (that and moving some apps to System, eg.. root explorer etc..)
Thanks guys! will be rooting as soon as she gets out of the box!
Kiwi
taaviu said:
If you install some apps, they install that location data/app. This partitions size is not the biggestone. If you have root you can easly remove bloatware and move the most needed apps to system/app partitions. Beacause system/app partitions have about 150+ Mb free space after you delete bloatware. Use search and you find in arc forum a thread wher is complete list app what you can delete and remove
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Thank you!
kiwiBratwurst said:
Does rooting, unlocking the bootloader and loading custom Kernel give me any real benefits (apart from CPU overclocking?)
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With doomlord kernel is overcloking "insane"
Stock 1Ghz
Doomlord kernel 1,9Ghz
I use 1,4Ghz smartassV2 and its da bestone. I even downgrade my 2.3.4 back to 2.3.3 because new kernel relase is "nobody know"
And battery....da best
And YES rooting is strongly RECOMENDED but ALWAYS your desicion
Regards!
Taavi
I would recommend rooting your neo for the following reasons.
a) removing bloatware
b) overclocking (however in 2.3.4 this is not possible until doomkernel is updated, but still.)
c) you can do quite a few mods that require root that are pretty cool with the phone.
enjoy using your neo
Hi guys,
I haven't got the phone yet (ogling the Mini Pro, counting my money), but I'm wondering what hints you have for reducing crud on the current batch of Xperia phones, without losing the (full) functionality of Xperia launcher & widgets.
So, assuming you have root and wish to uninstall programs from /system/apps, which ones would you delete?
(I'd like to keep full xperia functionality, since I really like the look of the default launcher and some of the widgets)
once i've got mine rooted im removed that daft pop cap games rubbish! also all the office tools and other things i dont need, i like to have mine as slim as possible with only the things i'll use left on, my x10 mini pro has everything removed that can be
dryhte said:
Hi guys,
I haven't got the phone yet (ogling the Mini Pro, counting my money), but I'm wondering what hints you have for reducing crud on the current batch of Xperia phones, without losing the (full) functionality of Xperia launcher & widgets.
So, assuming you have root and wish to uninstall programs from /system/apps, which ones would you delete?
(I'd like to keep full xperia functionality, since I really like the look of the default launcher and some of the widgets)
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Before installing CM i was on a rooted stock ROM with plenty stuff removed. I had 80+ MB more RAM available after the cleanup. I didnt have any kind of memory issues before, and while some say that free RAM is wasted RAM, its even more wasted if its been used by apps you dont need.
From what i remember, I've removed: everything related to timescape including all widgets and extensions, extensions for music player, xperia stock launcher, many android and google services (anonymous stats collection, google partner setup and some other google ones, and many others...), popcap and other miscellanous 3rd party apps and so on.
I cant recall all of it, but basically everything that you can recognise by the title and dont need, you can remove. Like stock calculator, launcher, widgets...
If you would need help later on, just post here a list of services and ill try to help.
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Before installing CM i was on a rooted stock ROM with plenty stuff removed. I had 80+ MB more RAM available after the cleanup. I didnt have any kind of memory issues before, and while some say that free RAM is wasted RAM, its even more wasted if its been used by apps you dont need.
From what i remember, I've removed: everything related to timescape including all widgets and extensions, extensions for music player, xperia stock launcher, many android and google services (anonymous stats collection, google partner setup and some other google ones, and many others...), popcap and other miscellanous 3rd party apps and so on.
I cant recall all of it, but basically everything that you can recognise by the title and dont need, you can remove. Like stock calculator, launcher, widgets...
If you would need help later on, just post here a list of services and ill try to help.
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I didn't root as long as it meant I had to unlock the bootloader, but I did it now that the ZergRush method existed
Now I'm trying to remove some software, but I don't manage to do so.
In a (su) terminal on the phone, I went to /system/app and tried to rename/remove some .apk that I was really sure I didn't need (like magicboxinstaller.apk) but it says that the file system is read-only. Can I remount the filesystem from inside the terminal on the phone, or do I need adb?
and what's the syntax to remount?
Another thing:
I'd like to remove the following stuff:
- magicbox
- popcapinstaller
- fun & downloads
- playnow store
- mobistar tv (related to a local provider, you won't know this probably)
Any idea which apk's these map to? (I'm guessing magicboxinstaller.apk = popcap installer, but the others???)
thanks
just install root explorer and delete files. probably easier than terminal, and you can set it to RW
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Can I remount the filesystem from inside the terminal on the phone, or do I need adb?
and what's the syntax to remount?
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I used adb for it. When rooted open a command prompt, navigate to adb's place, type in:
adb
su
exit
adb remount
adb
And now you can delete everything.
You can roo it. There's a thread about what apps are save to delete. Kinda funny how i have officesuite pro and the trial crapware is still there.
I you have busybox you can do busubox mount -o remount,rw /system I did it to modify some keyboard layout related files.
Good luck with your apps
just install system app remover, its much easier
I would recomend using the ZergRush-method if you care about DRM, warranty or bricking.
What I did on my Xperia Active was to first use ZergRush to get root access using ADB.
Then installed SuperUser and 'su' binary, as well as busybox 1.19.
Then install Titanium Backup (ROOT), and start removing bloat.
The nice thing about using Titanium is that you can backup the different parts you wish to remove, and thus reduce the chance of breaking og loosing desired functionality.
Personally I must say it really makes a difference.
Before I regullarly experienced, when going back to the home screen, a complete redraw as a consequence of memory being flushed.
After it has not happened once.
dryhte said:
I didn't root as long as it meant I had to unlock the bootloader, but I did it now that the ZergRush method existed
Now I'm trying to remove some software, but I don't manage to do so.
In a (su) terminal on the phone, I went to /system/app and tried to rename/remove some .apk that I was really sure I didn't need (like magicboxinstaller.apk) but it says that the file system is read-only. Can I remount the filesystem from inside the terminal on the phone, or do I need adb?
and what's the syntax to remount?
Another thing:
I'd like to remove the following stuff:
- magicbox
- popcapinstaller
- fun & downloads
- playnow store
- mobistar tv (related to a local provider, you won't know this probably)
Any idea which apk's these map to? (I'm guessing magicboxinstaller.apk = popcap installer, but the others???)
thanks
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why use geeky method when we have easy option = http://androidflip.com/remove-pre-installed-android-apps/
Root and full functionality
I rooted my last phone (x10 minipro) so I could store apps to sd. I haven't yet rooted my 2011 minipro, partly because I would lose certain functionality. The video player for Android Market movies will not run on a rooted phone, nor will some other apps (like magazine subscriptions), because they require DRM for copyright protection. Just something to consider before rooting your phone.
dave
bigdfmartin said:
I rooted my last phone (x10 minipro) so I could store apps to sd. I haven't yet rooted my 2011 minipro, partly because I would lose certain functionality. The video player for Android Market movies will not run on a rooted phone, nor will some other apps (like magazine subscriptions), because they require DRM for copyright protection. Just something to consider before rooting your phone.
dave
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With the ZergRush method you don't lose anything. (unless you really want to have a recovery)
Rooting in itself works fine without unlocking the bootloader and therefore, without losing any DRM
I am thinking of installing an alternate ROM called Honamify which is based on Android 4.4 CyanogenMod posted in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2602727
The problem is that I am totally confused after reading about the whole process. I need some guidance from experienced users/developers on how to go about this.
Here are some facts :
- The phone is Sony Ericsson Live With Walkman updated to the last official Ice Cream Sandwich build.
- It has been rooted with eRoot toolkit and most of the applications have been linked to a 2nd ext2 partition on SD card. Some applications like Facebook which were system applications have been converted to user applications and also have been linked to SD card using Link2SD. All updates to system applications have been integrated into system storage.
- The phone bootloader is currently locked.
Here are my questions :
1. Is it possible to take a complete backup of the phone in its present state so that if whatever is done later is unsuccessful it can be restored back to the present state?
2. I understand that it is necessary to unlock the bootloader before installing another ROM. But doing so may cause loss of data and DRM and other features according to Sony. And some posts mention taking a backup of TA partition before unlocking. What is that and how to do it?
3. Some tools show that the phone already has some sort of recovery installed but some others say no. Does this phone come with some factory installed recovery? If not how to install one? Clockworkmod?
4. Will it be possible to have a multiboot setup so that I can select whether to boot the stock or custom ROM?
5. Can we live without the Google applications? Or can we selectively install only some of the Google applications?
sling-shot said:
I am thinking of installing an alternate ROM called Honamify which is based on Android 4.4 CyanogenMod posted in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2602727
The problem is that I am totally confused after reading about the whole process. I need some guidance from experienced users/developers on how to go about this.
Here are some facts :
- The phone is Sony Ericsson Live With Walkman updated to the last official Ice Cream Sandwich build.
- It has been rooted with eRoot toolkit and most of the applications have been linked to a 2nd ext2 partition on SD card. Some applications like Facebook which were system applications have been converted to user applications and also have been linked to SD card using Link2SD. All updates to system applications have been integrated into system storage.
- The phone bootloader is currently locked.
Here are my questions :
1. Is it possible to take a complete backup of the phone in its present state so that if whatever is done later is unsuccessful it can be restored back to the present state?
2. I understand that it is necessary to unlock the bootloader before installing another ROM. But doing so may cause loss of data and DRM and other features according to Sony. And some posts mention taking a backup of TA partition before unlocking. What is that and how to do it?
3. Some tools show that the phone already has some sort of recovery installed but some others say no. Does this phone come with some factory installed recovery? If not how to install one? Clockworkmod?
4. Will it be possible to have a multiboot setup so that I can select whether to boot the stock or custom ROM?
5. Can we live without the Google applications? Or can we selectively install only some of the Google applications?
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1 Yeah. If you have enabled cwm recovery option on your phone. You can just take a backup your whole phone(Of Course excluding the memory card) from the backup and restore menu and restore it later.
2 No data will go if unlock properly. Drm might go if you do it the official way. Chill just remove your sd card before unlocking and remember to backup your wahtsapp chats and sms and contacts(use google sync for contacts) You can reinstall everything again.
3 No. You have to install one. Clockworkmod, ie cwm,Once you unlocked your phone you can just flash custom kernels that come with preinstalled recovery menus
4 Its possible. But its not worth doing it on a 2011 device. Trust me . Youll have to do **** with the sd card as the system doesnt have enough space to hold more than one rom plus we dont really have dualboot kernels.
5 Go to google search and type yourzgapps and click the first link. Even 4.4 gapps are there in the download link its just not mentioned in the thread. Theyre very lite only with essential google apps.Its like only a 14mb download. And yeah you cant live without google apps especially the playstore?
Thanks yash.
How to flash a custom kernel? Using Flashtool software on Windows?
Yeah anytime.
Yes use flash tool. Drivers dont work on windows 8.1 but. So it'll be sad if youre on it
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No I have Windows XP on the desktop and 7 on laptop. Both have multiple versions of PCLinuxOS. But I suppose Linux usage here would entail command line.
I suppose if I sit down and do it once I would become confident.
wait for next Honamify update
I've setup Honamify v2 on my live with Walkman. It's good, but look like it has some issue with "google play" compatibility check
For example, My phone can easy install Candy Crush Saga with brand Sony ICS Rom or LegacyXperia (the one Honamify base on).
But in Honamify v2, Google Play said my device don't support.
If you fan of Games. Think twice before install. Or you need to know how to edit buid.prop to make your device compatiblity (not easy with newbie like me)
Ok. Google Play compatibility is critical. Good to know beforehand.
What about other basic functions such as Bluetooth, WiFi, camera etc? Do they work well? Battery life?
pros: battery life, smoothness, wifi strength
It has better battery life then ICS base
Much smoothness then ICS other base Honamify ROM
The corlor in launcher is not real and beautiful like the sony ICS base.
WIFI is stronger with more access point discover in range.
Camera is OK but not much better than cybershot
Look like author has some fix,since link to part 1 has been remove.
Let's wait
for game that not pass compatibility device checking of Google play. I google apk file to download and install. It work. A bit compilicated and hard to update. But at least it ok to play.
Worth for the smooth and GUI of thís ROM.
or you can try to install my newly release rom.. as for the moments it's for LWW only but will support other mdpi's soon..just click my signature
Hi all
I learned a lot about android when I unlocked the bootloader of my xperia sola, flashed TWRP and various ROMs, installing GAPPS etc. BUT! I still dont have a clue of how to work with ROM Toolbox Pro for setting Minfree Values or Freezing System Apps I do not need (like Bloatware or NFC etc). Setting Minfree Parameters wont change a thing experience wise or looking at the memory (RAM) gauge. Freezing System App marks it as "freezed" but is still shown in running tasks. This said the RAM gauge of ROM Toolbox shows different values than android´s own (settings/apps).
So what am I missing here? Maybe someone can tell me (hopefully in simple words).
Cheers,
Rogurt
(xperia Sola, TWRP, CarbonROM-KK-unofficial-20141017-0647)
Hi, i have sony xperia LT22i, Android 4.1.2 -after i installed root software, i did deleted some android main system apps from my phone, like Facebook,tweeter YouTube.,system ui .......but my status bar is gone too .
i used plenty of software didn't work. i did rest factory didn't work. what can i do, do you think only way is to flash my phone ?