Auto-rotate stopped working - Huawei P20 Lite Questions & Answers

Hi,
I've noticed the issue and it started to annoy me
When I get the phone to landscape position it does not auto-rotate.
It was working previously, but I don't know when exactly it stopped and what could cause it.
I have tried to restart the phone, to wipe the cache partition, to restore factory settings - nothing helped.
Is this known issue or should I ask for service and hardware repair?
It's happening with my Huawei P20 Lite ANE-LX1 8.0.0.146(C461).

brdja80 said:
Hi,
I've noticed the issue and it started to annoy me
When I get the phone to landscape position it does not auto-rotate.
It was working previously, but I don't know when exactly it stopped and what could cause it.
I have tried to restart the phone, to wipe the cache partition, to restore factory settings - nothing helped.
Is this known issue or should I ask for service and hardware repair?
It's happening with my Huawei P20 Lite ANE-LX1 8.0.0.146(C461).
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Until now it's just you who reported the issue here, a few questions before you go for service repair:
Since when do you have your phone?
Did it fell sometimes?
Are you using a custom ROM or the original one from Huawei?
And of course I had to ask even though it's obvious, do you have auto-rotate option ON or OFF?
Cheers,
AS

ars_chelsea said:
Until now it's just you who reported the issue here, a few questions before you go for service repair:
Since when do you have your phone?
Did it fell sometimes?
Are you using a custom ROM or the original one from Huawei?
And of course I had to ask even though it's obvious, do you have auto-rotate option ON or OFF?
Cheers,
AS
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Let's answer one by one
I've purchased it brand new one month ago (9-Nov-18).
It never fell nor bumped hard.
I'm using original Huawei ROM.
Auto-rotate is ON, of course
Thanks,
Brdja

Good morning
I have some news for you, there is a current problem with also a person with problems on the compass (sensor for rotation) @Rondrey, and I can see your versions are the same.
So before you guys send your phone to warranty I suggest the following:
Either downgrade to the previous version of the EMUI or wait for another update from OTA.
To install or downgrade official software please look into this thread/guide by @kilroystyx:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/huawei-p20-lite/how-to/rom-official-emui-8-0-huawei-p20-lite-t3773999
So either you guys wait for the latest update 8.0.0.147 on build C461 of your country and see if it fixes it or downgrade to 8.0.0.145 or 8.0.0.144 using a dload package (step 7 of the guide of kilroystyx).
Kindly,
AS

ars_chelsea said:
Good morning
I have some news for you, there is a current problem with also a person with problems on the compass (sensor for rotation) @Rondrey, and I can see your versions are the same.
So before you guys send your phone to warranty I suggest the following:
Either downgrade to the previous version of the EMUI or wait for another update from OTA.
To install or downgrade official software please look into this thread/guide by @kilroystyx:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/huawei-p20-lite/how-to/rom-official-emui-8-0-huawei-p20-lite-t3773999
So either you guys wait for the latest update 8.0.0.147 on build C461 of your country and see if it fixes it or downgrade to 8.0.0.145 or 8.0.0.144 using a dload package (step 7 of the guide of kilroystyx).
Kindly,
AS
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Great findings, thanks!
However, I decided to hand it to official service in order not to void warranty.
BR,
Brdja

brdja80 said:
Great findings, thanks!
However, I decided to hand it to official service in order not to void warranty.
BR,
Brdja
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If it's easier for you fine, but no you don't lose warranty using his 7th way of flashing firmware via Dload package
Cheers,
AS

I have that same problem. only the light sensor is working. dload with 145 in version. but not again.

I also have the same problem
ars_chelsea said:
Until now it's just you who reported the issue here, a few questions before you go for service repair:
Since when do you have your phone?
Did it fell sometimes?
Are you using a custom ROM or the original one from Huawei?
And of course I had to ask even though it's obvious, do you have auto-rotate option ON or OFF?
Cheers,
AS
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it happened after an official EMUI Update to latest UI. And I have seen multiple communities even huawie people have no solution people just change the device and stopped updating it.

DESTROMA said:
it happened after an official EMUI Update to latest UI. And I have seen multiple communities even huawie people have no solution people just change the device and stopped updating it.
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Should be fixable by software, it's Huawei's fault obviously altough right now, the only thing you can do to make it work is either having a custom ROM to see if works alright which it should if it doesn't try custom kernels and check if it works out
Else you need to downgrade to a version which was working before.
Cheers,
AS

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i got a random reboot and freeze problem with G925F since MM 6.0.1

hi guys
since MM6.0.1 updated officialy from samsung, i got a random reboot and freeze problem, I tried to flash the rom again
and wipe cache and reset factory setting (normal and hard one ) and flashed another rom and downgrading back to lollipop
nothign actually work
seems the problem is not on the ROM or MM 6.0.1 no longer
anyone face this problem or found a solution for it ?
my mobile s6 edge G925f
thanks all
If this is persistent and across different ROMs then there could be a hardware issue. Else, welcome to the club...
Hey,
got the same problems and tried the same steps as you. Can't get it work again... No solution yet. I hope i can get a new one with warranty
amirage said:
If this is persistent and across different ROMs then there could be a hardware issue. Else, welcome to the club...
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I doubt it's a hardware, it just comes after the MM 6.0.1 official update
how could it affects the hardware?
borth87 said:
Hey,
got the same problems and tried the same steps as you. Can't get it work again... No solution yet. I hope i can get a new one with warranty
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I hope so, and if u find a solution tell me plz
Yaqoubi said:
I hope so, and if u find a solution tell me plz
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Don't have any issues yet!
I got back my phone from repair. They switched Mainboard and some minor parts.
Everything is working fine now. As it was warranty i dont have to pay for the change.
greetz
borth87 said:
I got back my phone from repair. They switched Mainboard and some minor parts.
Everything is working fine now. As it was warranty i dont have to pay for the change.
greetz
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u mean it works after the change of the main board?
yes
borth87 said:
yes
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ops, the worst case ever, it costs too much
Yaqoubi said:
ops, the worst case ever, it costs too much
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Try Restoring with Samsung Smart Switch It Replaces Whole System,Kernel,modem And other Stuff Give it a try maybe It will fix ur Issue
borth87 said:
I got back my phone from repair. They switched Mainboard and some minor parts.
Everything is working fine now. As it was warranty i dont have to pay for the change.
greetz
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ok then, man u just changed the main board or what do you mean by minor parts ?
i mean if i changed the whole main board, would it work ?
thx

android 9 in canada?

Hi new user here. I checked the website and I see I have the latest Android version but in the website it shows android 9 but I have android 8. I am wondering if android 9 is released in Canada. Thanksh
https://xpericheck.com/device/G8341
A lot regions skipped November/Pie (probably due to time constraints or ignorance) and are being pushed out now as we speak.
Techamazon said:
https://xpericheck.com/device/G8341
A lot regions skipped November/Pie (probably due to time constraints or ignorance) and are being pushed out now as we speak.
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Ya but even there there is no mention of G8343 variant. You can't search it lol.
https://xpericheck.com/device/G8343
Not sure why Canadians have a different version since the US is the same as ROW (except JP). Oh well... Anyhow, expect updates to start being pushed from the 6th all the way to the 14th. After that, nothing will happen till January. But judging from the average time it seems you belong to the week 2 category (10-14th).
I couldn't wait for it so I flashed the US firmware since I don't care for the fingerprint reader
Phat-T said:
I couldn't wait for it so I flashed the US firmware since I don't care for the fingerprint reader
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Why not flash a European firmware?
Umm from what I remembered, European firmwares uses the 4G symbol instead of LTE. That's the only reason I chose the US firmware haha
Phat-T said:
Umm from what I remembered, European firmwares uses the 4G symbol instead of LTE. That's the only reason I chose the US firmware haha
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Lol hahaha. Anyways can you help me flash the firmware? I am not so sure how to flash 2 different variants
PM'd you
I want to flash aslwell and have rooted my Samsung device but never a sony
So I have no Idea how to get the roms or apks to flash my phone with and what applications are used to flash Sony phones
Addy1993 said:
So I have no Idea how to get the roms or apks to flash my phone with and what applications are used to flash Sony phones
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flashing a sony phone is different to that of samsung. You have to backup drm key(ta partition) before you even unlock your bootloader, because without that you camera will become useless. I cant give you links but I am sure if you look around you will find them. After unlocking your bootloader it is very simple. Just flash a kernel and the rom that you want to.
The application we use for flashing kernels for sony phones is flashtool. Just make sure you have the right kernels and files before flashing.
Goodluck.
My bootloader is unlocked already I just can't find a rom that will work for an xz1 can you give me a hint on what exactly to search. There is no support for the xz1 and as for backing up the drm key where is that found?
Addy1993 said:
My bootloader is unlocked already I just can't find a rom that will work for an xz1 can you give me a hint on what exactly to search. There is no support for the xz1 and as for backing up the drm key where is that found?
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Yup there isn't really much or any support at all for Sony phones nowadays. I didn't find any good custom ROMs so sorry I wouldn't be the right person to advice you. And as for DRM keys. Once you unlock it. It's gone. I heard they have introduced some fixes or something. I don't know.
Need help
Can you give me guidance on how to with out braking my phone
As soon as you said you had 8.1 on your phone I knew this would be an interesting read.. Not sure how long ago you. unlocked your BL but once you did it you lost your DRM keys, though if you had read a bit you would have realized that.. there is a DRM fix for oreo (8.0), Pie is debatable as the camera appears to work without one but a few other thing appears to be missing related to video and sound enhancements without a DRM fix.. Now as far as flashing go it's time for you to do your homework as there are a few guidelines for using Flashtool and Newsflasher.. no disrespect here but hunt them down and read through them before you do anything else to your phone..

Help downgrading from Android 10

Alright, so recently I got the zip file for the MIUI 11, Android 10 update. I installed it, all is well, except I miss the face unlock feature. Considering it's a device with the IR face unlock and not the normal optical one. Is there a way I can go back to MIUI 11, Android 9 safely without bricking my device?
Uh, the face unlock option is still there though..?
The Pocophone F1 stock android 10 very definitely does include ir face unlock
Try changing your region, OP
Check it's selected in your security settings too
I'm assuming here that it was the official update zip - not a custom one
lollipopmadman said:
Alright, so recently I got the zip file for the MIUI 11, Android 10 update. I installed it, all is well, except I miss the face unlock feature. Considering it's a device with the IR face unlock and not the normal optical one. Is there a way I can go back to MIUI 11, Android 9 safely without bricking my device?
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This device doesnt have anti-rollback-protection iirc.
BenjiScale said:
This device doesnt have anti-rollback-protection iirc.
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Alright, my bad, since I read somewhere that the update might require a location change and hence I did it and made it other than India.
Switched it back to India and I'm all good. Thank you so very much. Saved me from rooting a new phone.
Cheers!
lollipopmadman said:
Alright, my bad, since I read somewhere that the update might require a location change and hence I did it and made it other than India.
Switched it back to India and I'm all good. Thank you so very much. Saved me from rooting a new phone.
Cheers!
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[SOLVED] Realme UI bugs on EU device

Hi!
I've recently purchased an EU 8/128 device and installed the realme ui update from the india website.
Now the nfc and brightness sensor don't work.
I've seen other users withba similar problem, but it isn't clear to me what should I do now: can I go back to coloros 6? Can the bugs be solved in any other way? Should I take the phone back for a refund?
Thank you in advance to anyone willing to give an advice.
NFC versions upgrade to India version will cause some problems like you said, I don't know if you upgraded to c03 or c01. The NFC versions just upgrade to c01. You can take it back to the service center and ask for help or you must wait for NFC c03 c04 firmware.
donkeyman1234 said:
NFC versions upgrade to India version will cause some problems like you said, I don't know if you upgraded to c03 or c01. The NFC versions just upgrade to c01. You can take it back to the service center and ask for help or you must wait for NFC c03 c04 firmware.
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Thank you. How do I check wether I have c03 or c01?
The nfc version would be the realme ui update for global phones? Are you sure I'll be able to install it after it comes out?
See "About phone" in the setup.
You must have the firmware dowloaded before you update and turn the phone to recovery mode to update (because I doubt your phone will get ota), or you can try recovery mode online update.
donkeyman1234 said:
See "About phone" in the setup.
You must have the firmware dowloaded before you update (because I doubt your phone will get ota), or you can try stock recovery mode to online update.
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We are talking about an hypothetical nfc version of realme ui, right?
Where would I be able to download it?
Thank you again for all the help. I'm a bit worried that I rendered my newly bought phone kinda useless ?
The global version comes with NFC. But when
you updated to India Rom ,NFC is gone. If you can't change back to global version, you may take it back to service center, I am sure it won't cost you anything, at least in my country they won't charge.
I drink from the keg of glory
donkeyman1234 said:
The global version comes with NFC. But when
you updated to India Rom ,NFC is gone. You may take it back to service center, I am sure it won't cost you anything, at least in my country they won't charge.
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I managed to solve the issue.
I read in another thread that realme ui for nfc devices was avaiable in russia via OTA. So I downloaded the update from the official russian website (https://www.realme.com/ru/support/software-update) and proceded to install via recovery mode.
Much to my delight, it worked wonderfully! The NFC bug is gone as well as all the other ones (auto brightness, system updater)
Thanks to donkeyman1234 for the support
I am glad it can be rolled back to c01 via recovery mode. Hope everyone with global version using India Rom c01~c03 can restore back to global realme ui c01.
LucaLKS said:
I managed to solve the issue.
I read in another thread that realme ui for nfc devices was avaiable in russia via OTA. So I downloaded the update from the official russian website (https://www.realme.com/ru/support/software-update) and proceded to install via recovery mode.
Much to my delight, it worked wonderfully! The NFC bug is gone as well as all the other ones (auto brightness, system updater)
Thanks to donkeyman1234 for the support
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Amazing news!!! I had the exact same problem with my Global version. I had version RMX1921EX_11_A.05 on my phone and installed the indian version of RMX1921EX_11_C.03 on top. It worked for the most part but full of the bugs already mentioned (battery drain, NFC stopped, auto brightness gone)
@LucaLKS was your model you got fixed an RMX1921EX or RMX1921EUEX?
 @donkeyman1234 Do you think I will be able to do the same on my RMX1921EX and roll back from RMX1921EX_11_C.03 to a C.01 through stock recovery?
Cheers guys
mario0788 said:
Amazing news!!! I had the exact same problem with my Global version. I had version RMX1921EX_11_A.05 on my phone and installed the indian version of RMX1921EX_11_C.03 on top. It worked for the most part but full of the bugs already mentioned (battery drain, NFC stopped, auto brightness gone)
@LucaLKS was your model you got fixed an RMX1921EX or RMX1921EUEX?
@donkeyman1234 Do you think I will be able to do the same on my RMX1921EX and roll back from RMX1921EX_11_C.03 to a C.01 through stock recovery?
Cheers guys
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I don't know where to check. I can't find it in about phone
LucaLKS said:
I don't know where to check. I can't find it in about phone
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There is an app called AIDA64 in google store which reads the system information. Could you please download and screenshot the system and android tabs? I will be able to compare our phones and see whether their are the same or not. Cheers
mario0788 said:
Amazing news!!! I had the exact same problem with my Global version. I had version RMX1921EX_11_A.05 on my phone and installed the indian version of RMX1921EX_11_C.03 on top. It worked for the most part but full of the bugs already mentioned (battery drain, NFC stopped, auto brightness gone)
@LucaLKS was your model you got fixed an RMX1921EX or RMX1921EUEX?
@donkeyman1234 Do you think I will be able to do the same on my RMX1921EX and roll back from RMX1921EX_11_C.03 to a C.01 through stock recovery?
Cheers guys
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I think you should give it a try. Just download the firmware and boot into recovery mode. I hope you make it. (It won't hurt if you can't flash it)
donkeyman1234 said:
I think you should give it a try. Just download the firmware and boot into recovery mode. I hope you make it. (It won't hurt if you can't flash it)
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Absolutely correct. Already downloading. My only concern is that my version was RMX1921EX and this one is RMX1921EUEX. Hopefully nothing will get bricked. I'm crossing my fingers for it to work :fingers-crossed:
mario0788 said:
Absolutely correct. Already downloading. My only concern is that my version was RMX1921EX and this one is RMX1921EUEX. Hopefully nothing will get bricked. I'm crossing my fingers for it to work :fingers-crossed:
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If your phone comes with NFC then it is global (not India), that's why when you updated to India Rom, the NFC is gone.
donkeyman1234 said:
If your phone comes with NFC then it is global (not India), that's why when you updated to India Rom, the NFC is gone.
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I know for a fact that when I bought the phone, I bought the global version and had NFC on board but I'm really confused with Realme's naming and monikers. So let me get it clear.
RMX1921EX is the Indian version?!
RMX1921EUEX is the Global version?!
If that's correct, why did my phone had the version RMX1921EX_11_A.05? That means that RMX1921EX is assigned to both Indian and Global versions? that's what has me confused.
mario0788 said:
There is an app called AIDA64 in google store which reads the system information. Could you please download and screenshot the system and android tabs? I will be able to compare our phones and see whether their are the same or not. Cheers
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Here you have
https://postimg.cc/JG8tCYZ4
https://postimg.cc/rDQvwsHY
LucaLKS said:
Here you have
https://postimg.cc/JG8tCYZ4
https://postimg.cc/rDQvwsHY
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Thank you brother. I think you have the EUEX version but still im going to try and install and see what happens!
mario0788 said:
Thank you brother. I think you have the EUEX version but still im going to try and install and see what happens!
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Let me know what happens.
Speriamo bene
LucaLKS said:
Let me know what happens.
Speriamo bene
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I DON'T even believe it!!! IT WORKED!!! Finally my phone is optimal again!!! Guys thank so so much !!!
Let's spread the word to everyone who had the same issue!!
:laugh::laugh::laugh:
 @LucaLKS
 @donkeyman1234
mario0788 said:
I DON'T even believe it!!! IT WORKED!!! Finally my phone is optimal again!!! Guys thank so so much !!!
Let's spread the word to everyone who had the same issue!!
:laugh::laugh::laugh:
@LucaLKS
@donkeyman1234
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Great!

Lost Widevine L1 Certification After flashing EU ROM

Hey guys,
So i was messing around with ROMS,
Like EVOx, EU roms and suddenly after flashing latest EU rom i lost L1 cert,
I tried flashing stock rom, PE, Evo, etc still no luck,
It seems i cant get my L1 cert again.
If you have any idea how to get it back please share.
I would really appreciate it.
Watching Netflix in 480p sucks.
from what I know L1 cert is unique for every phone. You must use the one who came with your phone. its in persist.img that I hope you backed up before flashing EU rom. If you don't, you'll have to get used to 480p. Sometimes some developer publish a fix for very specific devices, not our case tho.
Is there an app or something to check what L-status my mobile has?
blowy666 said:
Is there an app or something to check what L-status my mobile has?
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.androidfung.drminfo
sir_bazz said:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.androidfung.drminfo
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Thanks for the link!
Have tested it, my mobile is on L1.
On my mobile there is the XIAOMI EU ROM.
So it seems it's not ROM related...? ?
blowy666 said:
Thanks for the link!
Have tested it, my mobile is on L1.
On my mobile there is the XIAOMI EU ROM.
So it seems it's not ROM related...? ?
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Same here.
L1 maintained from stock to xiaomi.eu 11.0.2 to xiaomi.eu 11.0.4.
f35suarezj said:
from what I know L1 cert is unique for every phone. You must use the one who came with your phone. its in persist.img that I hope you backed up before flashing EU rom. If you don't, you'll have to get used to 480p. Sometimes some developer publish a fix for very specific devices, not our case tho.
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i did not backed that up.
Need some other solution
How have you flashed the EU ROM?
With TWRP? Fastboot? Or with the inbuilt Updater?
blowy666 said:
How have you flashed the EU ROM?
With TWRP? Fastboot? Or with the inbuilt Updater?
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TWRP, but the issue is that i cant even get L1 on Stock ROM now. :/
Well okay, have read a bit through the net.
Seems like the only way would be if you have a backup of the Persist Partition of exactly YOUR device.
Seems like you have overwritten this partition while flashing.
This information would have been good to know in ROM install guides before flashing >.>
blowy666 said:
Well okay, have read a bit through the net.
Seems like the only way would be if you have a backup of the Persist Partition of exactly YOUR device.
Seems like you have overwritten this partition while flashing.
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I have seen other devices able to get back L1.
Does getting the device to mi service center will help?
I guess best way to get a 100% answer is to write a mail to the service center.
Or perhaps you could ask the people who were able to "repair" their phones and got L1 back ?
blowy666 said:
I guess best way to get a 100% answer is to write a mail to the service center.
Or perhaps you could ask the people who were able to "repair" their phones and got L1 back ?
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I am 100% sure service center people in my city will discard the request as i am pretty sure they don't care enough about it.
I wonder how i can contact someone who will be able to help me out.
Randsome said:
I am 100% sure service center people in my city will discard the request as i am pretty sure they don't care enough about it.
I wonder how i can contact someone who will be able to help me out.
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Easy! you google for "edl authorized account" and find a kind guy having right to fully refresh your phone. cost some bucks...
lolo9393 said:
Easy! you google for "edl authorized account" and find a kind guy having right to fully refresh your phone. cost some bucks...
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Thanks for the info but i saw some posts and they all seems to point to mifash tool,
Which i already used to flash stock rom but no luck.
Should i try clean+lock?
I had read that if you loose L1 you can't fix it it unique for every phone. You should have done a backup in your persist partition before flashing and testing.
L1 is like the IMEI?
Sent from my U65GT using Tapatalk
Actually even when not flashing, i myself lost l1 while locked bootloader. It happens after updating my phone to 11.0.8.0.
Many of my fellow countryment experienced also this. The weird thing is that there are some who does not experience this problem. There are others where widevine L1 is preserve on stock rom OTA update and there are some like me who lost it. This has been acknowledged by devs and Xiaomi mods. And still waiting for a fix. So for me i think it is not eu rom related
amnher said:
Actually even when not flashing, i myself lost l1 while locked bootloader. It happens after updating my phone to 11.0.8.0.
Many of my fellow countryment experienced also this. The weird thing is that there are some who does not experience this problem. There are others where widevine L1 is preserve on stock rom OTA update and there are some like me who lost it. This has been acknowledged by devs and Xiaomi mods. And still waiting for a fix. So for me i think it is not eu rom related
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I lost it when I tried to update from 0.7 to 0.8 EU
Can you suggest a way to get it back sir?
That's really confusing.
I first updated my EEA Version with the inbuilt Updater to 11.0.3 and L1 was still present, and then after nearly 14 days I unlocked my bootloader and flashed the XIAOMI EU Custom ROM, version 11.0.9 and still got L1.
Is your mobile on Global ROM (with MI in the title) or on EEA (with EU in the title)?
It's strange cause I'm sure there are maaany users out there who have updated their device at least once, and the problem of the change from L1 to L3 seems not to be wide spreaded one, when reading through the different boards.
Most people are complaining about the wifi bug mainly... ?
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Randsome said:
I lost it when I tried to update from 0.7 to 0.8 EU
Can you suggest a way to get it back sir?
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What means when you TRIED to update?
Was your update successfull or any problems with it?
Well, some ideas of ways to get L1 back we're already given here, but seems like there is no "easy way" to do so...

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