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I have a Note 2 (obviously), and I have rooted my phone the first day I got it and have never updated the phone since I purchased it. So, I am still on 4.1.2. My phone has been super laggy and I want to take the oppurtunity the when I reset my phone that I can take advatages of the new features that mobile phones have by upgrading all the way to 5.1.x.
So, I downloaded CM 12.1 by wilson3q with 5.1 system. I first tried the 5.0 version since the 5.1 looked too new, and did not have time to deal with the bugs. When I flashed the 5.0 version, I got errors of not being able to flash gapps for 5.0 and that I lost my root. I tried downloading the new TWRP to see if I can get a newer version that would work better, but no luck. I got an error saying that I lost my root privileges and did I want TWRP to fix it. I slid yes to fix, but no luck.
The same problem occurred when I tried with 5.1.
So, I ended up restoring my nandroid backup and I am back on 4.1.2 again with root working again.
I am thinking that I am probably supposed to 'step up' the updates, but not sure. Does anyone have a solution or a link to the solution that they can help with?
PS: I did not like the camera that came with the new mod. I do like the stock one. Are there flashes of cameras that I can use as well when I do end up upgrading?
Thank you in advance!!!
geske001 said:
I have a Note 2 (obviously), and I have rooted my phone the first day I got it and have never updated the phone since I purchased it. So, I am still on 4.1.2. My phone has been super laggy and I want to take the oppurtunity the when I reset my phone that I can take advatages of the new features that mobile phones have by upgrading all the way to 5.1.x.
So, I downloaded CM 12.1 by wilson3q with 5.1 system. I first tried the 5.0 version since the 5.1 looked too new, and did not have time to deal with the bugs. When I flashed the 5.0 version, I got errors of not being able to flash gapps for 5.0 and that I lost my root. I tried downloading the new TWRP to see if I can get a newer version that would work better, but no luck. I got an error saying that I lost my root privileges and did I want TWRP to fix it. I slid yes to fix, but no luck.
The same problem occurred when I tried with 5.1.
So, I ended up restoring my nandroid backup and I am back on 4.1.2 again with root working again.
I am thinking that I am probably supposed to 'step up' the updates, but not sure. Does anyone have a solution or a link to the solution that they can help with?
PS: I did not like the camera that came with the new mod. I do like the stock one. Are there flashes of cameras that I can use as well when I do end up upgrading?
Thank you in advance!!!
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Try Phiz recovery, I've never had trouble with "[I605][CWM Advanced Edition] PhilZ Touch". If I recall we had to start using that one when kit-kat was released (i reserve the right to recall poorly)
I have a link to download mirror here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=60899023&postcount=146
from your new recovery, you should be able to install CM12.1 and 5.1 gaaps recommended in the Wilson3Q i605 thread. from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-2-verizon/development/rom-unofficial-build-i605-t3069506
FWIW, I am on the 20150803 build and still using the GApps Minimal Edition 2015-04-04 for Android 5.1 (91 MB) from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/gapps-google-apps-minimal-edition-t2943330
with no issues to report.
You may also need to track down updated radios (to flash from CWM). I think you can find a link to the updated ND7 Modem/Baseband here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2765021
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Good Luck!
PS you may want to flash superSU from recovery... get the zip from chainfire's xda thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053
(I've been dirty flashing for so long I dont' remember if the rom came with SuperSU or superuser... as such I can't recall if I had to flash this zip or not, but I probably did if I had issues with root)
Note you may also need to enable root from the settings menu after enabling developer mode.
there should be a "root access" option (or somehting like that there)
PPS are you also remembering to wipe data & clear cache/dalvik?
I have found zoot's mega wipe useful...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1983489
it is for the N7100/N7105, butI have used it on the i605 quite a bit. Initial test result reported here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=44093932&postcount=117
that said zoot's script is probably overkill
jheide44 said:
Try Phiz recovery, I've never had trouble with "[I605][CWM Advanced Edition] PhilZ Touch". If I recall we had to start using that one when kit-kat was released (i reserve the right to recall poorly)
I have a link to download mirror here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=60899023&postcount=146
from your new recovery, you should be able to install CM12.1 and 5.1 gaaps recommended in the Wilson3Q i605 thread. from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-2-verizon/development/rom-unofficial-build-i605-t3069506
FWIW, I am on the 20150803 build and still using the GApps Minimal Edition 2015-04-04 for Android 5.1 (91 MB) from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/gapps-google-apps-minimal-edition-t2943330
with no issues to report.
You may also need to track down updated radios (to flash from CWM). I think you can find a link to the updated ND7 Modem/Baseband here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2765021
somewhere in middle of first post
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I assume that you are giving steps in order, BUT I feel that I should flash the radio to 4.4.2 first, in which the link was broken. I have spent a couple hours trying to find another link, but I am afraid that I may be using an incorrect one. Do you have a good link for that, please?
Also, I have ready the newest Samsung 3.10 Odin downloaded and installed, as well as the USB driver installed and downloaded the ADB fastboot. If I remember correctly, I am supposed to move this onto C: and run it to access the device (Note 2). It has been since Android first came out since I have used the ADB though. So, I apologize for the ignorance. So, do I just make sure the adb is in the same directory and run Odin or did I not need ADB and just run Odin?
I also assume that I run the Philz touch after I have gotten to 4.4.2 rooted first. Am I correct by assuming that?
jheide44 said:
Good Luck!
PS you may want to flash superSU from recovery... get the zip from chainfire's xda thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053
(I've been dirty flashing for so long I dont' remember if the rom came with SuperSU or superuser... as such I can't recall if I had to flash this zip or not, but I probably did if I had issues with root)
Note you may also need to enable root from the settings menu after enabling developer mode.
there should be a "root access" option (or somehting like that there)
PPS are you also remembering to wipe data & clear cache/dalvik?
I have found zoot's mega wipe useful...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1983489
it is for the N7100/N7105, butI have used it on the i605 quite a bit. Initial test result reported here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=44093932&postcount=117
that said zoot's script is probably overkill
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Yes, I have done a cache/dalvik wipe a few times (because I have tried reflashing to get it to work with no luck).
I have downloaded the .zip version of superSU as well, and gapps minimal 5.1 with wilson3q's 5.1 ROM. So, I am almost ready to go with the exception of the correct radio upgrade file.
Thank you so much for your help!!! Much appreciated!
PS Will my old WifiTether apk files still work with 5.1 or do I need to get a new one?
Thanks Again!
No need for Odin....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=35396049&postcount=1
(Good read)
Just flash philz from twrp. Reboot recovery wipe/reset... then flash new ROM gaaps... Wipe/reset... Then reboot.
I can post the radio zip to my site later tonight. I believe you can flash that last, or later (from philz cwm, after getting on cm12.1)
Same as superSU. Check out ROM first. It comes with root that can be enabled in developer options. you can always reboot to recovery later and flash the zip.
PS. WiFi tether built into ROM "hotspot" (no VZW subscription required)
Pps try this for the nd7 radios
https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=23501681358546508
Sent from my SCH-I605 (VZW Note 2) on CM12.1 using Tapatalk
jheide44 said:
No need for Odin....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=35396049&postcount=1
(Good read)
Just flash philz from twrp. Reboot recovery wipe/reset... then flash new ROM gaaps... Wipe/reset... Then reboot.
I can post the radio zip to my site later tonight. I believe you can flash that last, or later (from philz cwm, after getting on cm12.1)
Same as superSU. Check out ROM first. It comes with root that can be enabled in developer options. you can always reboot to recovery later and flash the zip.
PS. WiFi tether built into ROM "hotspot" (no VZW subscription required)
Pps try this for the nd7 radios
https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=23501681358546508
Sent from my SCH-I605 (VZW Note 2) on CM12.1 using Tapatalk
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I will try this later. Thank YOU! I have to take kids to practice now.
jheide44 said:
No need for Odin....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=35396049&postcount=1
(Good read)
Just flash philz from twrp. Reboot recovery wipe/reset... then flash new ROM gaaps... Wipe/reset... Then reboot.
I can post the radio zip to my site later tonight. I believe you can flash that last, or later (from philz cwm, after getting on cm12.1)
Same as superSU. Check out ROM first. It comes with root that can be enabled in developer options. you can always reboot to recovery later and flash the zip.
PS. WiFi tether built into ROM "hotspot" (no VZW subscription required)
Pps try this for the nd7 radios
https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=23501681358546508
Sent from my SCH-I605 (VZW Note 2) on CM12.1 using Tapatalk
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Sorry to bother you, but I still am getting errors with Failed root access for Titanium Backup Pro. I also cannot find Developer Options in the settings menu.
I have tried flashing the radio before and after wiping and installing the ROM then gapps then superSU. I get into superSU and it asks me for root access and I grant it, but Titanium Backup Pro still says that it has no root access.
Any ideas? Thank YOU!!
geske001 said:
Sorry to bother you, but I still am getting errors with Failed root access for Titanium Backup Pro. I also cannot find Developer Options in the settings menu.
I have tried flashing the radio before and after wiping and installing the ROM then gapps then superSU. I get into superSU and it asks me for root access and I grant it, but Titanium Backup Pro still says that it has no root access.
Any ideas? Thank YOU!!
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with SuperSU installed, you may need to just need to update binaries. open SuperSU and it should prompt you if necessary. the "normal" option should work (no need to flash from recovery)
for TiBu...
--within SuperSU settings you may need to disable (uncheck) "mount name separation".
--You may also have to enable unknown sources (under settings, security).
-- there might be something to enable for USB debugging as well (TIBU should prompt for it)
FWIW, you can restore user apps/data... but I would not attempt to restore any system data. Personally, I have found it best to get to know a fresh ROM for a while before trying to restore crap from an older ROM . there might be value in re-configuring apps manually and/or restoring them one at a time (after making sure the ROM is working properly) i.e. you won't need any of those aforementioned WiFi tether apps since it is built into the ROM now.
Instructions on enabling developer options in CM ROM, from here: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Doc:_developer_options
1- In the Settings app, select About Phone (or About Tablet).
2- Scroll down, and tap the Build number entry seven times. On the seventh tap, you will be notified that "You are now a developer."
3- Return back to the main Settings menu. Developer options and Performance entries should now be visible.
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(that is likely how to enable superuser that is "baked" into the rom, given you already installed SuperSU it may only complicate matters)
You may be rooted and just having TiBu issues. If all else fails you can check with an app. A long time ago, I've used "Simple Root Checker" by SimoneDev to check root/busybox. It is still in the play store.
Good Luck!
jheide44 said:
with SuperSU installed, you may need to just need to update binaries. open SuperSU and it should prompt you if necessary. the "normal" option should work (no need to flash from recovery)
for TiBu...
--within SuperSU settings you may need to disable (uncheck) "mount name separation".
--You may also have to enable unknown sources (under settings, security).
-- there might be something to enable for USB debugging as well (TIBU should prompt for it)
FWIW, you can restore user apps/data... but I would not attempt to restore any system data. Personally, I have found it best to get to know a fresh ROM for a while before trying to restore crap from an older ROM . there might be value in re-configuring apps manually and/or restoring them one at a time (after making sure the ROM is working properly) i.e. you won't need any of those aforementioned WiFi tether apps since it is built into the ROM now.
Instructions on enabling developer options in CM ROM, from here: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Doc:_developer_options
(that is likely how to enable superuser that is "baked" into the rom, given you already installed SuperSU it may only complicate matters)
You may be rooted and just having TiBu issues. If all else fails you can check with an app. A long time ago, I've used "Simple Root Checker" by SimoneDev to check root/busybox. It is still in the play store.
Good Luck!
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Thank you! It ended up being my version of Titanium Backup. I downloaded a new version and it is good. As far as restoring is concerned, I do not even want the apps themselves restored from there, because there may be a new version and would like a fresh install of those apps. I just want my data restored. For example, I have a surveillance software that I would just like to restore the entries (IP's usernames and passwords). I would like my email settings to be there, so that I do not have to re setup my 7 email addresses. My Text/SMS messages and my alarms. So, I am not trying to do a full restore.
On another note, I am trying to get my calendars back into my phone with no luck. I cannot install google calendar and get my google calendars to populate into my task widget, and the ROM is not letting me set up my POP email addresses. Also, I see no ringtones, so I have no ringers to ring my phone nor tones for my alarm clock. I flashed gapps for 5.1 and I see nothing extra from the ROM. I thought gapps was google apps. Am I trying to do stuff differently than you? There seems to be a few problems in that manner that I am trying to work with.
I am thinking of downgrading to 5.0. Maybe the 5.1 is too new?
Again, THANK YOU for your help!
geske001 said:
Thank you! It ended up being my version of Titanium Backup. I downloaded a new version and it is good. As far as restoring is concerned, I do not even want the apps themselves restored from there, because there may be a new version and would like a fresh install of those apps. I just want my data restored. For example, I have a surveillance software that I would just like to restore the entries (IP's usernames and passwords). I would like my email settings to be there, so that I do not have to re setup my 7 email addresses. My Text/SMS messages and my alarms. So, I am not trying to do a full restore.
On another note, I am trying to get my calendars back into my phone with no luck. I cannot install google calendar and get my google calendars to populate into my task widget, and the ROM is not letting me set up my POP email addresses. Also, I see no ringtones, so I have no ringers to ring my phone nor tones for my alarm clock. I flashed gapps for 5.1 and I see nothing extra from the ROM. I thought gapps was google apps. Am I trying to do stuff differently than you? There seems to be a few problems in that manner that I am trying to work with.
I am thinking of downgrading to 5.0. Maybe the 5.1 is too new?
Again, THANK YOU for your help!
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I wouldn't downgrade, nobody is actively working on 5.0.2 anymore.... that thread is basically dead. Also, it is likely less "stable"/mature than what you have installed now (that is currently being maintained). i.e. you have the ROM that I would stick with.
like I said I wouldn't restore any thing into system (apps or data)... you can do whatever you please. (but it could be causing you more issues than just biting the bullet & configuring manually) i.e. restoring accounts might result in unanticipated issues, you came from a much older version of android.
all I had to do was install google calendar from play store and then the CM12 calendar stuff all worked (I might have had to restart and/or install the google calendar prior to setting up primary gmail). you might need to remove all your accounts and load them again (a factory reset might be faster though.)
also you might have to update google services and the play store before certain things "play nice".
I know you don't want to hear this but...
from here on out i'll likely point to all your issues being based on restoring system data. (based on my limited knowledge and personal experience). FWIW, I'd try to reconfigure/setup everything manually and you will likely have much better results.
jheide44 said:
I wouldn't downgrade, nobody is actively working on 5.0.2 anymore.... that thread is basically dead. Also, it is likely less "stable"/mature than what you have installed now (that is currently being maintained). i.e. you have the ROM that I would stick with.
like I said I wouldn't restore any thing into system (apps or data)... you can do whatever you please. (but it could be causing you more issues than just biting the bullet & configuring manually) i.e. restoring accounts might result in unanticipated issues, you came from a much older version of android.
all I had to do was install google calendar from play store and then the CM12 calendar stuff all worked (I might have had to restart and/or install the google calendar prior to setting up primary gmail). you might need to remove all your accounts and load them again (a factory reset might be faster though.)
also you might have to update google services and the play store before certain things "play nice".
I know you don't want to hear this but...
from here on out i'll likely point to all your issues being based on restoring system data. (based on my limited knowledge and personal experience). FWIW, I'd try to reconfigure/setup everything manually and you will likely have much better results.
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I figured that, and feared that and the same time. So, what am I flashing onto the phone with gapps then? Also, one of the reasons I was wanting to go back was because there are a few apps that are not 'compatible' with this system. Meanwhile, I am going to wipe and reset again, and do what you suggested and just reconfigure.
Thanks again!
geske001 said:
I figured that, and feared that and the same time. So, what am I flashing onto the phone with gapps then? Also, one of the reasons I was wanting to go back was because there are a few apps that are not 'compatible' with this system. Meanwhile, I am going to wipe and reset again, and do what you suggested and just reconfigure.
Thanks again!
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GAaps are the google apps... good read:
http://wiki.rootzwiki.com/Google_Apps
(hopefully I am not out of line for posting a link to that wiki)
many ROMS like CM don't' include gaaps due to licencing/legal issues. which is why the AOSP roms devs often have you flash the GAAPS package separately (also you can pick your package for your fact pattern... full gaaps/minimal gaaps/etc.).
Also the gaaps zip files you flash from recovery install the files into system. a lot of folks like the minimal editions of GAaps because it doesn't force all the apps into system. instead it just gets you up and running with the play store and a few essentials... that lets the user install all the other google apps as user apps, from the play store.
basically taking the "debloat" mentality as far as you can... keep stuff out of system and let the user decide what to install.
I got my Honor 9 set up with the all in one guide (https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-9/how-to/one-guide-recovery-os-roms-t3661829). Except I could not flash supersu because in the data/data folder, I just got some weird named folders and could not find my file.
That tells me I am encrypted, right?
Now I entered TWRP and sideloaded supersu via adb - and I got root. So now my question is, am I encrypted AND got root running? Can you confirm this? I found no way inside Android on how to see if I am actually encrypted or not.
I didn't flash anything with fileencryption disabled in fstab etc...
I believe the latest version of EMUI encrypts your device by default to protect your personal data. You would probably decrypt your device yourself in the Settings > Security
But how can I check if I'm really encrypted or decrypted? What I can tell for sure is that I got root. But that would mean that the root guide can be updated to read supersu is working with data encrypted
Rommco05, I already know that I'm definitely rooted, but unsure on how to check the encryption status.
If I remeber good, there's an option in settings when you encrypt the phone (I don't remember where exactly)
This may help you
Ok so I sideloaded beta SuperSU 2.82 SR3 and I am rooted now. And I would say encrypted as if I browse /data/data through TWRP everything is just a bunch of random characters. Also phone is locked by fingerprint and password.
It can be correct
Zuzler said:
I got my Honor 9 set up with the all in one guide (https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-9/how-to/one-guide-recovery-os-roms-t3661829). Except I could not flash supersu because in the data/data folder, I just got some weird named folders and could not find my file.
That tells me I am encrypted, right?
Now I entered TWRP and sideloaded supersu via adb - and I got root. So now my question is, am I encrypted AND got root running? Can you confirm this? I found no way inside Android on how to see if I am actually encrypted or not.
I didn't flash anything with fileencryption disabled in fstab etc...
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Could you please tell me what you did in detail after you unlocked your phone? At the moment i have the eu version but the b180 version with unlocked bootloader. Do you think it also works with the b180? And can you provide the links where you downloaded it, because there are like 10 Million different Versions of supersu and twrp. i bless you if you tell me
I soft bricked my H9 many times, so can you confirm me pls if :
- My H9 has the stock rom
- Bootloader unlocked and frp unlocked
- TWRP is installed but i see sdcard with encrypted names
If i used "adb sideload SuperSU-v2.82-201705271822.zip" in TWRP, i will have root and i loose nothing in the phone?
Thnaks for answer
i need this information too.
if i install by twrp the file SR3-SuperSU-v2.82-SR3-20170813133244.zip , i have root but i lose navigation button and camera flash...
now i have B183 version....
which version and how have to install Supersu for have root and all working?
im tired to go back everytime to b120....
Hello,
I recently acquired a Sony Z5C, planning on switching to LineageOS sooner or later, but the android tweking world is way more complex than I initially imagined. I am mostly concerned about privacy and control but there is so much to go through I am completely lost. I thought it was all about running either Sony's rom or the lineageos rom but there seems to be a lot more to take into account.
What I am looking for:
getting rid of Sony's annoying bloatware
getting rid of Google Play Services
automatic or semi automatic security updates
fine tuning of application permissions (including ability to deny specific apps access to, say, my location, contact list, camera, internet, sms, without the apps noticing they have been denied access in the first place)
ads and trackers blocking (for instance global or per-application blacklisting of known "evil" domains)
being able to restore everything as it was when I purchased the phone
f-droid begin able to download and install updates without manual intervention
as little side effects as possible resulting from the deletion of the Google Play Services
Icing on the cake:
no loss in camera quality (I read somewhere it is sometimes possible to use image-enhancing algorithms despite having deleted the required DRM keys)
no loss in gps accuracy
same battery life (or better)
encompassing all data traffic of specific apps through tor or another technology preserving distant services from identifying me and my mobile network operator from knowing I access said services
Questions:
What is the difference between opengapps and microg? How does it relate with lineage? At which point in the installation process is it involved?
What are the consequences of rooting the device?
What is the purpose of so called "Magisk"? I read it "changes everything" but I have no idea what "everythin" was. As far as I understand, it is useful to fake a genuine configuration that have not been tempered with in order to use Google Pay or some games. I do not seem to care about that: should I? Is there more to know?
Most important question: in your opinion, considering the above points, the phone I have, current trends and hindsight, and your experience, what would be the best way to go? Should I follow the installation steps on the official lineageos page for the Z5C or do you think another option would suit me better?
To illustrate my technical knowledge: I have been a gnu/linux user for almost a decade but I am completely ignorant of the Android world and feel lost. In particular the concept of "root" and how user and system data is organized on the filesystem(s) (especially on Sony devices) seem different. I am willing to learn and get technical, but there is too much information and I do not know where to start with zero experience.
Thank you very much for your help.
I am in same situation. Did things like that for Moto and Samsung already, but I am new to Sony.
Key is to install TWRP. This is some kind of recovery where you can
- make a backup
- install LOS
- recall backups.
Once this is done:
- install root/su
- tingle the framework (to get microG running)
- install microG
- install afwall (firewall)
- install adaware
only than plugin a SIM and/or enable Wifi.
So: first thing is to install TWRP
unlock Bootloader:
To be able to unlock your Xperia Z5 Compact, prepare it by following these steps:
Go into Settings > About phone and tap seven times on Build number to enable developer options.
From Settings, go into Developer options and enable OEM unlocking.
Warning: Device protection features will not work on this device while this setting is turned on.Please note! It will only be possible to unlock the boot loader for certain releases. You can check if it is possible to unlock the boot loader of your device in the service menu by following the steps below:
In your device, open the dialer and enter *#*#7378423#*#* to access the service menu.
Tap Service info > Configuration > Rooting Status. If Bootloader unlock allowed says Yes, then you can continue with the next step. If it says No, or if the status is missing, your device cannot be unlocked.
TWRP
https://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-compact/development/twrp-twrp-3-2-1-z5-compact-t3748952
A few words to your queston:
opengapps are not open source, they just add normal google apps to Custom Roms. With all pros and cons.
MicroG is offering some kind of api, so that most features can be used (notification, google maps, access to playstore).
They are installed after the custom rom. Some people don't install any of them, use FDroid as a store.
root gives you the chance to change settings, for a few advanced configurations it is required (or makes it easier): firewall, ad remove ...
No experience with magisk. It is another way of "rooting" it, gives more features (hide the root status) which is required for some games. Not needed it til now.
What seems to be missing from previous post is to backup your DRM keys since unlocking your bootloader means losing them FOREVER.
Regards,
Aeny
Aeny said:
What seems to be missing from previous post is to backup your DRM keys since unlocking your bootloader means losing them FOREVER.
Regards,
Aeny
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Right, but didn't you need TWRP to make a backup. And that is on my list, first point. Or is it a special step to do?
Thank you for your help and valuable information which now raises even more questions
If I get things right TWRP is low level stuff that would allow me to backup and restore the system whenever I need to. Say for instance I just installed LOS and configured it as desired so I use TWRP to get a backup and if I later mess things up I can restore this backup without having to go through the whole installation and configuration process? How does the official LineageOS installation guide fit in all this, sould I follow it? Do I need to follow a completely different procedure? I am not planning to tinker anympre once everything has been set up, is TWRP only recommended for people who often experiment and change things or is it recommended for everyone?
The DRM keys are removed when unlocking the bootloader but since TWRP requires an unlocked bootloader they have to be backed up beforehand, am I right? Does it mean I can restore them afterwards once the bootloader has been unlocked without locking it up again? How can I back them up in the first place?
I cannot seem to picture how all the pieces fit together, which is low level stuff, which is high level. When you say "install microg", "install afwall", "install adaware", what are microg, afwall, adaware? Are they regular applications? Regular applications with root access? Low level modules? How is root managed in comparison with a gnu/linux system where I can either directly log as root, change user to root with "su", or get temporary privileges with "sudo"? When you say "install root/su", are we simply talking about installing the equivalent of "su" or "sudo" on a linux distribution? Is there a root password I shall input each time it is required or provide some applications root privileges through a configuration app? Is such an application to be installed separately?
Thank you for the clarification about opengapps/microg. I am interested in microg although I can give a try without in the beginning as long as it is still possible to install microg later.
fetchaspade said:
WRP only recommended for people who often experiment and change things or is it recommended for everyone?
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Yes, highly recommended if not even required. All my LOS setups run via TWRP.
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The DRM keys are removed when unlocking the bootloader but since TWRP requires an unlocked bootloader they have to be backed up beforehand, am I right? Does it mean I can restore them afterwards once the bootloader has been unlocked without locking it up again? How can I back them up in the first place?
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Good point. Don't know where do I need this DRM keys for, as I did't faced off this with other mobiles.
I think you have to make a backup of the TA partition:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/iovyroot-temp-root-tool-t3349597/
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I cannot seem to picture how all the pieces fit together, which is low level stuff, which is high level. When you say "install microg", "install afwall", "install adaware", what are microg, afwall, adaware? Are they regular applications? Regular applications with root access? Low level modules? How is root managed in comparison with a gnu/linux system where I can either directly log as root, change user to root with "su", or get temporary privileges with "sudo"? When you say "install root/su", are we simply talking about installing the equivalent of "su" or "sudo" on a linux distribution? Is there a root password I shall input each time it is required or provide some applications root privileges through a configuration app? Is such an application to be installed separately?
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addsu is to flash via TWRP in same manner like LOS itself - as a zip. Others are regualar applications (installed like that) but required root privileges to work. No root password required. Once an app needs it it will ask you, and if you like it remembers you allowed it (so it will ask just once usually). Recommend to try this. You can't do much wrong if you create a backup
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Thank you for the clarification about opengapps/microg. I am interested in microg although I can give a try without in the beginning as long as it is still possible to install microg later.
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MicroG is a bit more fiddling to install than gapps and seems to has limitations. There are separate threads for just this.
Just start, you will get a feeling for that all.
Edit: But
there is already a lineagos with microG built-in:
https://download.lineage.microg.org/suzuran/
Thank you starbright_
To recap, I am to unlock the bootloader, install TWRP, flash addsu via TWRP, flash lineage enhanced with microg, and I'm good to go.
I'm still stuck on the very first step: backing up the TA partition. If I'm not mistaken I need the TA backup tool which requires root access. Root access requires an unlocked bootloader (which would remove the TA partition and the DRM keys) or is achieved for a limited amount of time thanks to exploits. According to both https://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/iovyroot-temp-root-tool-t3349597/ and https://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-compact/general/guide-how-to-root-z5c-painful-using-t3549388, it won't work on recent versions (7.1.1) so I need to downgrade. How can I do that? I imagine I need a tool to flash an old official rom: where am I to find an old official rom? How can I flash it without having an unlocked bootloader?
Backing up the TA partition really seems cumbersome. Is the loss of quality really noticeable on photos and videos? I find photos quite disappointing already and I fear it would get even worse.
On an unrelated topic, do you now of any way to backup SMS conversations as a simple file to import later on the same or different device? All I can find are applications that back up messages on a GMail account (no thanks) or any IMAP server (in what world is it simpler than an xml or simple text file ?).
Maybe you can translate this:
https://reraise.eu/2016/09/05/xperia-z5c-so-sicherst-du-die-ta-partition-teil-1
On an unrelated topic, do you now of any way to backup SMS conversations as a simple file to import later on the same or different device? All I can find are applications that back up messages on a GMail account (no thanks) or any IMAP server (in what world is it simpler than an xml or simple text file ?).
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I'm using titanium backup for that.
(menu / backup data to xml)
@fetchaspade
Did you start your project? I would appreciate to take notes of your step. That's not only helping others, but also yourself once you have to do the steps again once.
So, I've been wanting the Galaxy Tab S7+ for months. But I haven't had the money for it until now (yeah, you guesses it, stimulus payment). But I'm still on the fence about buying it. I know bootloader unlock, TWRP and Magisk root is available for this tab. But I don't want to be limited to just running stock-based ROM's. My plan is to flash a Project Treble-based firmware like Phh Treble, Resurrection Remix.
The questions I'd like to ask are:
1. This tab appears to be Treble compatible, it is listed on the Treble device compatibility page as working. But I would like to hear from an actual owner of this device that has successfully booted and ran a Treble/GSI ROM
2. The partition layout is ARM64 A/B and system-as-root?
3. Besides unlocking bootloader and flashing TWRP, are there any other special considerations I would need to know about?
Without this info, I won't buy, and Google doesn't always produce solid answers. I would like to become an active developer for this device as well, but I need compelling reasons to buy it, besides just great hardware, the latest Android 10/11, that kind of thing....the superficial stuff.
I could just buy now and test when I get it, Amazon has a 30 day return policy. But I don't think they will accept a tablet return if the warranty has been voided by the user. So this really isnt an option.
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So, I've been wanting the Galaxy Tab S7+ for months. But I haven't had the money for it until now (yeah, you guesses it, stimulus payment). But I'm still on the fence about buying it. I know bootloader unlock, TWRP and Magisk root is available for this tab. But I don't want to be limited to just running stock-based ROM's. My plan is to flash a Project Treble-based firmware like Phh Treble, Resurrection Remix.
The questions I'd like to ask are:
1. This tab appears to be Treble compatible, it is listed on the Treble device compatibility page as working. But I would like to hear from an actual owner of this device that has successfully booted and ran a Treble/GSI ROM
2. The partition layout is ARM64 A/B and system-as-root?
3. Besides unlocking bootloader and flashing TWRP, are there any other special considerations I would need to know about?
Without this info, I won't buy, and Google doesn't always produce solid answers. I would like to become an active developer for this device as well, but I need compelling reasons to buy it, besides just great hardware, the latest Android 10/11, that kind of thing....the superficial stuff.
I could just buy now and test when I get it, Amazon has a 30 day return policy. But I don't think they will accept a tablet return if the warranty has been voided by the user. So this really isnt an option.
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1. At present, AOSP v304 GSI can be booted, but no Magisk yet. This is if you have Android 11 stock FW. The situation with GSI might be different (probably better) with Android 10 stock FW, but I can no longer test this, as the latest BUC1 build blocked the downgrade path. You can still downgrade to Android 10 (up to ATK3) if you're on build BUBB or below.
2. This device uses a Super partition (also called dynamic partitions) for system, vendor, etc.. Because of this, flashing GSI is no longer trivial. You can try using this tool to flash a GSI from TWRP.
3. Currently TWRP cannot access /data if it's encrypted. You need to flash Multi-Disabler to disable encryption (which requires formatting /data) if you want TWRP to access it. Also, while Magisk works on stock FW, be careful when debloating as some Samsung components are not happy with certain components removed and would cause trouble.
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1. At present, AOSP v304 GSI can be booted, but no Magisk yet. This is if you have Android 11 stock FW. The situation with GSI might be different (probably better) with Android 10 stock FW, but I can no longer test this, as the latest BUC1 build blocked the downgrade path. You can still downgrade to Android 10 (up to ATK3) if you're on build BUBB or below.
2. This device uses a Super partition (also called dynamic partitions) for system, vendor, etc.. Because of this, flashing GSI is no longer trivial. You can try using this tool to flash a GSI from TWRP.
3. Currently TWRP cannot access /data if it's encrypted. You need to flash Multi-Disabler to disable encryption (which requires formatting /data) if you want TWRP to access it. Also, while Magisk works on stock FW, be careful when debloating as some Samsung components are not happy with certain components removed and would cause trouble.
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Thanks for the info, I honestly didn't think I would ever get an answer.
You say the AOSP GSI can be booted. But do you speak from experience? Or just from what others have said?
The part about BUC1 blocking the downgrade path is useful, I'll keep that in mind before installing any OTAs or flashing firmware with Odin. Yes, I do imagine that Magisk is more compatible with AOSP based ROMs vs stock, that has always been my experience on other devices.
I already did some reading, I'm aware of the super partition thing. I know I'll have to unpack and repack the super.img, replacing the system.img with a Treble one.
I'm also aware of the file based encryption that TWRP can't read, I don't encrypt my devices, and plan to disable it.
I know all about debloating troubles, I've done it on numerous devices, important stuff can definitely break if you're not careful.
I'm wondering if you can answer a few more questions:
1. Are you rooted?
2. Can the system partition be remounted as read/write from within Android on stock firmware? I have heard cases where the dynamic partitions can prevent this, but supposedly it's not usually an issue on custom ROMs, just stock. I ask because I will be debloating, but if remounting system isnt possible, then I'll need to rely on Magisk for systemless debloating. Or just remain unrooted and debloat with ADB package disable commands (this doesn't really delete anything, and works without root).
3. If you are running Magisk,can you upload a screenshot of the main screen? I just want to see the A/B and SAR values.
4. Can you install the free version of Treble Check from Play Store, and post screenshots of the main info screen?
5. Is it possible to moves apps to SD without enabling adoptable storage (on stock, I know custom AOSP firmwares will require AS, or a root app like Apps2SD and a 2nd partition on SD.
I'm hoping to hear from at least another confirming user before I make a buying decision, spending $1k+ on a high end tablet is a big deal.
And if I do buy, I am serious about becoming a developer.
LSS4181 said:
1. At present, AOSP v304 GSI can be booted, but no Magisk yet. This is if you have Android 11 stock FW. The situation with GSI might be different (probably better) with Android 10 stock FW, but I can no longer test this, as the latest BUC1 build blocked the downgrade path. You can still downgrade to Android 10 (up to ATK3) if you're on build BUBB or below.
2. This device uses a Super partition (also called dynamic partitions) for system, vendor, etc.. Because of this, flashing GSI is no longer trivial. You can try using this tool to flash a GSI from TWRP.
3. Currently TWRP cannot access /data if it's encrypted. You need to flash Multi-Disabler to disable encryption (which requires formatting /data) if you want TWRP to access it. Also, while Magisk works on stock FW, be careful when debloating as some Samsung components are not happy with certain components removed and would cause trouble.
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Thanks for the info, I honestly didn't think I would ever get an answer.
You say the AOSP GSI can be booted. But do you speak from experience? Or just from what others have said?
The part about BUC1 blocking the downgrade path is useful, I'll keep that in mind before installing any OTAs or flashing firmware with Odin. Yes, I do imagine that Magisk is more compatible with AOSP based ROMs vs stock, that has always been my experience on other devices.
I already did some reading, I'm aware of the super partition thing. I know I'll have to unpack and repack the super.img, replacing the system.img with a Treble one.
I'm also aware of the file based encryption that TWRP can't read, I don't encrypt my devices, and plan to disable it.
I know all about debloating troubles, I've done it on numerous devices, important stuff can definitely break if you're not careful.
I'm wondering if you can answer a few more questions:
1. Are you rooted?
2. Can the system partition be remounted as read/write from within Android on stock firmware? I have heard cases where the dynamic partitions can prevent this, but supposedly it's not usually an issue on custom ROMs, just stock. I ask because I will be debloating, but if remounting system isnt possible, then I'll need to rely on Magisk for systemless debloating. Or just remain unrooted and debloat with ADB package disable commands (this doesn't really delete anything, and works without root).
3. If you are running Magisk,can you upload a screenshot of the main screen? I just want to see the A/B and SAR values.
4. Can you install the free version of Treble Check from Play Store, and post screenshots of the main info screen?
I'm hoping to hear from at least another confirming user before I make a buying decision, spending $1k+ on a high end tablet is a big deal.
And I am serious about developing for this device if I do buy. Mainly for AOSP firmwares or porting LineageOS, but maybe for stock too.
It looks like I can't delete the previous double posts, and editing causes it to be posted again. I hate the new XDA layout, the old was so much better.
AnonVendetta said:
Thanks for the info, I honestly didn't think I would ever get an answer.
You say the AOSP GSI can be booted. But do you speak from experience? Or just from what others have said?
The part about BUC1 blocking the downgrade path is useful, I'll keep that in mind before installing any OTAs or flashing firmware with Odin. Yes, I do imagine that Magisk is more compatible with AOSP based ROMs vs stock, that has always been my experience on other devices.
I already did some reading, I'm aware of the super partition thing. I know I'll have to unpack and repack the super.img, replacing the system.img with a Treble one.
I'm also aware of the file based encryption that TWRP can't read, I don't encrypt my devices, and plan to disable it.
I know all about debloating troubles, I've done it on numerous devices, important stuff can definitely break if you're not careful.
I'm wondering if you can answer a few more questions:
1. Are you rooted?
2. Can the system partition be remounted as read/write from within Android on stock firmware? I have heard cases where the dynamic partitions can prevent this, but supposedly it's not usually an issue on custom ROMs, just stock. I ask because I will be debloating, but if remounting system isnt possible, then I'll need to rely on Magisk for systemless debloating. Or just remain unrooted and debloat with ADB package disable commands (this doesn't really delete anything, and works without root).
3. If you are running Magisk,can you upload a screenshot of the main screen? I just want to see the A/B and SAR values.
4. Can you install the free version of Treble Check from Play Store, and post screenshots of the main info screen?
I'm hoping to hear from at least another confirming user before I make a buying decision, spending $1k+ on a high end tablet is a big deal.
And I am serious about developing for this device if I do buy. Mainly for AOSP firmwares or porting LineageOS, but maybe for stock too.
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I actually booted it myself and kept a backup of it so I can test it a bit further if needed. With TWRP and appropriate backups it's not difficult to switch back and forth.
Since Magisk can't work with Android 11 vendor at the moment, and that recent GSI builds are not certified for some reasons (which blocks Google login), my current use of GSI is still a bit limited, so I'm mostly still doing stuffs on stock.
As for other questions:
1. I'm rooted on stock ROM with Magisk (it works there). Magisk does not work on GSI with Android 11 vendor at the moment.
2. I haven't tried mounting system r/w from within Android, but TWRP certainly could mount it r/w, as Multi-Disabler needs to modify stuffs there. For GSI, you need to use vndklite variants in order to be able to mount system r/w.
Honestly, this is my first Samsung Android device and is also my first device with a super partition, so I still have a lot to learn...
EDIT: I'm using a Galaxy Tab S7+ 5G variant. I think for Wi-Fi variant most things should be similar... but I'm not really sure.
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I actually booted it myself and kept a backup of it so I can test it a bit further if needed. With TWRP and appropriate backups it's not difficult to switch back and forth.
Since Magisk can't work with Android 11 vendor at the moment, and that recent GSI builds are not certified for some reasons (which blocks Google login), my current use of GSI is still a bit limited, so I'm mostly still doing stuffs on stock.
As for other questions:
1. I'm rooted on stock ROM with Magisk (it works there). Magisk does not work on GSI with Android 11 vendor at the moment.
2. I haven't tried mounting system r/w from within Android, but TWRP certainly could mount it r/w, as Multi-Disabler needs to modify stuffs there. For GSI, you need to use vndklite variants in order to be able to mount system r/w.
Honestly, this is my first Samsung Android device and is also my first device with a super partition, so I still have a lot to learn...
EDIT: I'm using a Galaxy Tab S7+ 5G variant. I think for Wi-Fi variant most things should be similar... but I'm not really sure.
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I am using the WIFI variant (SM-T870) on the latest stock release (T870XXU2BUC6) with root and Magisk 22.1 running just fine. Root was accomplished by flashing a Magisk modified boot image with Odin found here https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...-updated-3-29-21.4159291/page-2#post-84843377 on this thread. I used Titanium Backup to debloat and have had no issues at all. The performance is great and the stability sound. I would suspect that a similar arrangement could accomplished on the other versions of the tablet but cannot speak from experience. Personally I have never had much luck flashing Project Treble GSIs on any of my devices. They tend to be very unstable and iffy at best and I always wind up returning to stock or another custom ROM choice.
I have never used a Pixel phone, but I am strongly considering a Pixel 6 now. I want to root the phone using Magisk **and** I want to successfully hide root. Furthermore, I want to be able to install some modules in an Xposed-like framework such as LSPosed, and I want the existence of that XPosed-like framework also to be hidden. Ever since Android 11, it's been complicated and confusing to figure out how to accomplish all of this in a reliable manner, given the latest changing versions of Magisk and given the various root-hiding mechanisms that are now offered, and which are also now still in development.
There is a huge amount of information about this general topic in the following threads ...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/magisk-general-support-discussion.3432382/page-2689#post-87696219
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/discussion-magisk-the-age-of-zygisk.4393877/
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...r-unofficial-third-party-magisk-fork.4460555/
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/lsposed-xposed-framework-8-1-13-0-simple-magisk-module.4228973/
... however, there are collectively more than 50,000 messages in this group of threads, and for me, this fits into the category of "Too Much Information", especialy given that much of this info is contradictory, with different people reporting success and others reporting failure, and different people reporting slightly different versions of the same procedures.
The reason I'm posting here is that I'm wondering of anyone has successfully accomplished what I'm trying to do with a Pixel 6 under Android 11 or Android 12, and if so, whether that person (or people) might be willing to share a straightforward, step-by-step, cookbook-like set of instructions about how to accomplish all of this from beginning to end.
By "beginning to end", I mean to start with a brand new locked Pixel 6 and to install all of the software and features that I described above, with the end result being a reliably rooted Pixel 6 (with root reliably hidden) running some sort of XPosed-like framework under Android 11 or Android 12, and which can be consistently rebooted with no boot loops.
If that is considered off-topic here, I'm glad to take this into private chat.
Thank you very much in advance for any help that you might be able to offer.
What he said, but instead of android 11 or 12, give me one for 13 please.
Oh! I somehow overlooked the following thread when I first came here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...nlock-bootloader-pass-safetynet-more.4388733/
It covers a lot of the information I'm looking for.
I will soon dig into that thread in more detail, and if it indeed ends up explaining everything that I want to learn, then I will abandon this current thread.
But for the moment, I'll keep this thread alive.
I can confirm my rooted Pixel 6 running 13 passes SafetyNet check and is certified in the Play app following those instructions. However, Google is not using SafetyNet to check for an unlocked bootloader in their apps anymore. GPay complains about device security and there are some apps that I can't download. Netflix, Hulu. Other than GApp and having to sideload Netflix, I don't have any issues.
Here's a thread about the new security check.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/discussion-play-integrity-api.4479337/
anyone having issues with some apps detecting root even after magiskhide should try the shamiko module. helped me
few stupid questions regarding rooting my pixel 6 .....
1) its new unlocked phone, should i have the new SIM in phone when rooting, does it matter ?
ok to put it when its done ?
same question for being signed into Google account when rooting, does it even matter, either way ?
2) is there a way to get the pixel phone transfer to show back up, or a way to access it ?
Its very easy for me to transfer all backed up data from my current Pixel 3 that way...
3) can I still run my banking & crypto apps once rooted ? I have read conflicting reports on this... elsewhere that is.
Thank y'all for the awesome information ya provide on here, and Thank You in advance if you have any input for me rooting...
Its amazing how far along we've come along since my bag phone
kengel1969 said:
few stupid questions regarding rooting my pixel 6 .....
1) its new unlocked phone, should i have the new SIM in phone when rooting, does it matter ?
ok to put it when its done ?
same question for being signed into Google account when rooting, does it even matter, either way ?
2) is there a way to get the pixel phone transfer to show back up, or a way to access it ?
Its very easy for me to transfer all backed up data from my current Pixel 3 that way...
3) can I still run my banking & crypto apps once rooted ? I have read conflicting reports on this... elsewhere that is.
Thank y'all for the awesome information ya provide on here, and Thank You in advance if you have any input for me rooting...
Its amazing how far along we've come along since my bag phone
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1. No, yes, no
2. Yes, kind of
3. Yes with safetynet module and magisk deny list, and sometimes magisk props.
Read @Volatyle's and @Homeboy76's guides. Great info in both.
It would be better if you explained what your end result is. Hiding root can be very difficult; depending on the app requirements, simply having an unlocked bootloader can be enough, because an unlocked device will always fail hardware backed attestation.
If you're simply trying to get apps like Google Pay to work, you should need to do nothing more than install Displax's modded USNF module, and enforce DenyList on the Play Store and Play Protect service.
If on the other hand you're trying to use apps that specifically detect the presence of Magisk, then you may need to hide the Magisk app. As far as hiding the presence of root itself, I am unsure as to whether any app without root privileges can detect whether an SU binary is installed. Someone like @pndwal would know better than I would.