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like everyone else, there are a lot of icons or apps (depending on what we're talking about) that I don't use. what does superclean leave in, and how hard is it to just delete them.
SuperClean is much much more beyond just deleting apps.
This thread mostly details.
adrynalyne said:
DL30 super clean FROYO
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All bloatware
All verizon apps
All verizon framework
Touchwiz live walls and widgets
Touchwiz launcher
Touchwiz calendar
Touchwiz calculator
Memo and write apps
Flash
Nuance
Samsung keyboard
Startup animation
shutdown animation
startup sounds
market widget
setup wizard
backup assistant
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2.2.1 launcher, modified to work with TW dialer. You need to set PHONE as default activity on the phone button for the first time use.
Musicmod
aosp calendar
aosp calculator
Google voice
Google voice enabled dialer (voicemail button)
aosp dock app
non binged car dock app
non binged browser
camera to include geotagging
latest market, search, voice, gmail, etc
resolv.conf
aosp ringtones
ad blocking hosts
aosp lockscreen
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Read the changelog for any changes/modifications since the original. The latest SuperClean (2.6) is a hybrid of EB01 and EB16, as well.
Edit: And this should either be in the Super Clean thread, or in General- not a new thread in Development.
okay, thanks. I guess that rules out superclean. I like touchwiz too much. how do you delete stock apps?
m91-30 said:
okay, thanks. I guess that rules out superclean. I like touchwiz too much.
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Read the post! There's a patch to add TouchWiz.
m91-30 said:
how do you delete stock apps?
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Remove the .apk by hand, or use something like Titanium Backup and remove it, or use Titanium Backup's Freeze feature. Be careful what you remove! If you remove some things, TouchWiz and other stuff could stop working!
i don't miss touchwiz at all. honestly what do you like about it?
and i am not being rhetorical, seriously why do you like it over a clean rom running launcher pro?
I like the effects, look, and feel of it. I've never had any speed issues with it, and I use the touchwiz apps like program manager, media player, weather clock, calander, clock, ect...
This belongs in general discussion.
upsidedownaaron said:
i don't miss touchwiz at all. honestly what do you like about it?
and i am not being rhetorical, seriously why do you like it over a clean rom running launcher pro?
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Dogma serves no one. Several touchwiz apps are more functional than their aosp counterparts. Now I do agree that the touchwiz launcher is meh, but there is a lot more to a ROM than just the launcher.
rigglemania said:
Dogma serves no one. Several touchwiz apps are more functional than their aosp counterparts. Now I do agree that the touchwiz launcher is meh, but there is a lot more to a ROM than just the launcher.
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I agree, the launcher is the weakest part of TW, but even the launcher isn't so bad. As far as speed goes, the thing that really slows it down is the TW widgets. Those must be terribly bloated.
My biggest complaint is just the goofy app drawer with the seizure inducing app backgrounds, but the home screen setup isn't too bad. I've switched back to it from ADWex as EX was starting to exhibit some strange behavior (seemed like memory use was ballooning over time and the whole system was slowing down).
Why not just use titanium backup and freeze the apps instead of deleting. (you need the premium version though)
If you really want to know what files are different between ROMs, you can always download 2 zipped ROMs (such as stock deodexed EB01 and superclean EB01 for example), unzip them and use a program like WinMerge (Windows only) to compare the files between the two.
As far as TouchWiz is concerned, it's all personal preference. There was a thread on here where a bunch of people talked about liking the TouchWiz launcher - me included. I like horizontal scrolling, being able to re-arrange the apps to specific pages and I even like the backgrounds to all the apps in the drawer. It is visually more uniform and a lot easier for me to view/launch apps without all the dead space between the icons.
I don't like vertical scrolling and small icons the stock launcher provides. Part of the problem isn't just the launcher, it's the icons. Not all app developers follow the same guidelines for making app icons. Some are 2D, some are 3D, they're all different sizes. I guess the icon backgrounds from TouchWiz or MIUI give them all a uniform look that's appealing to me?
yeah. I'm not giving up touchwiz, or the touchwiz apps, I like how they work, I've liked it since my omnia 2 (even though, admittedly, it did slow that phone down). I also like the continuity it provides from one samsung phone to the next, as I plan on sticking by samsung as long as the phone works like it should for me from the git go (I never had any serious problems with my omnia 2, or fascinate). right now my only setback is only having a linux computer. I need to figure out how to hack android (linux kernel) from ubuntu (linux). you would think two linux OSs would play well together, oh well.
also, is there a list somewhere of .APKs you can delete without effecting touchwiz or android?
m91-30 said:
also, is there a list somewhere of .APKs you can delete without effecting touchwiz or android?
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There are lists around, but there has been a fair amount of work put into the superclean ROMs. That is a good basis for what you can/can not remove to an extent.
I say to an extent, because there are some things left in, some things removed and some things added to the superclean ROM that doesn't "officially" make it "super clean" to me.
For example, the Memo app can be removed (it has been in superclean) and it won't hurt anything. The additional fonts can be removed, but they haven't been in superclean. There are some Google apps which typically come stock that can be removed - some that don't come stock have been added to superclean - all of which can be installed from the Market.
Sometimes the best way to test is from trial and error (if you do use this method, use ADB and rename files to test - don't delete). If you go asking questions, people will either tell you to Google it, try it yourself, or you'll get 2 different answers that conflict which will cause you to try it yourself anyway.
I don't believe in breaking core functionality.
If I remove the extra fonts in superclean, there is a nice fat force closing sub menu under display settings.
My OCD will not stand for it. This is the same reason Samsung Mms.apk was added back. No multi-part messages= broken, imo.
superclean is a name. If you want a truly SUPER CLEAN rom, then use blackhole, and customize to your liking. Although i think you wil find that in some respects, SC is cleaner.
Typically, apps added to superclean are there to increase functionality. Its not meant to be an aosp replacement/clone.
adrynalyne said:
I don't believe in breaking core functionality.
If I remove the extra fonts in superclean, there is a nice fat force closing sub menu under display settings.
My OCD will not stand for it. This is the same reason Samsung Mms.apk was added back. No multi-part messages= broken, imo.
superclean is a name. If you want a truly SUPER CLEAN rom, then use blackhole, and customize to your liking. Although i think you wil find that in some respects, SC is cleaner.
Typically, apps added to superclean are there to increase functionality. Its not meant to be an aosp replacement/clone.
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Interesting.. I never noticed a FC sub menu after removing fonts, but I (like most others else here) trust your judgment 200% over my own.
I'm making a bit of an assumption that if you remove the fonts, then go to display settings and mess with fonts there, it will crash. I've not tested the theory, but thats the main reason I have left them in. That and they take little space, and don't run in the background xD.
adrynalyne said:
I'm making a bit of an assumption that if you remove the fonts, then go to display settings and mess with fonts there, it will crash. I've not tested the theory, but thats the main reason I have left them in. That and they take little space, and don't run in the background xD.
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I just re-flashed MIUI so I can't give you the step-by-step, but I recall removing a total of 3 files with the string *EUK* and they just don't show up in the fonts list in display settings. The option to download fonts is still there - no FC.
can someone give me a list of some of the apps to avoid freezing/uninstalling to avoid locking up touchwiz and android?
Good discussion
I understand why people want to flash stock JB custom ROMS (me always having been one of them, for 3 phones now), but in the case of the GS4, why?
You would lose actual useful Samsung features like Multi Window (works ridiculously well), WatchON (to utilize the IR blaster), the mostly better Samsung camera app, S Health (some ppl use), and even some of the smart features like gestures, S Voice, and the eye tracking stuff.
Don't most people want at least some of these? I would never want to lose Multi Window (first time having this, especially when using Samsung Multi Window Manager to use any apps with it), WatchON, and the camera app, even having been a stock custom ROM freak for a long time with other phones.
This is the first time I feel that rooting, deodexing, debloating, and a few theme mods are enough to satisfy me (for now) mainly because I want these factory apps and features.
Anyone else?
just4747 said:
I understand why people want to flash stock JB custom ROMS (me always having been one of them, for 3 phones now), but in the case of the GS4, why?
You would lose actual useful Samsung features like Multi Window (works ridiculously well), WatchON (to utilize the IR blaster), the mostly better Samsung camera app, S Health (some ppl use), and even some of the smart features like gestures, S Voice, and the eye tracking stuff.
Don't most people want at least some of these? I would never want to lose Multi Window (first time having this, especially when using Samsung Multi Window Manager to use any apps with it), WatchON, and the camera app, even having been a stock custom ROM freak for a long time with other phones.
This is the first time I feel that rooting, deodexing, debloating, and a few theme mods are enough to satisfy me (for now) mainly because I want these factory apps and features.
Anyone else?
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Ummmmm.....because I prefer stock AOSP over ALL that stuff combined?!?!?!?!
I have absolutely no use for any of the features you listed. Camera quality on AOSP will get there eventually.......and I don't use multi window.....and the other stuff is just bloat....
Just my opinion....
Your going to have people on both sides of this. Some want an AOSP like experience and consider all of these Samsung apps to be "Bloat".
IMO, I'd like to see a AOSP look and feel ROM, with some of the Samsung features in it. I'm sure someone will make something like that.
Schoat333 said:
Your going to have people on both sides of this. Some want an AOSP like experience and consider all of these Samsung apps to be "Bloat".
IMO, I'd like to see a AOSP look and feel ROM, with some of the Samsung features in it. I'm sure someone will make something like that.
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I agree, but honestly with some theming, Nova launcher, and a few app replacements, the phone on Touchwiz isn't much different whatsoever. I mean what, just the settings menus and some of the system apps? No big deal.
I don't get why anyone wouldn't want true multitasking like Multi Window provides (among the other things)...
Better lockscreen
Theme engine
More internal memory
More customization (although xposed is making that less of a difference)
Sometimes things like better Bluetooth stacks
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Schoat333 said:
Your going to have people on both sides of this. Some want an AOSP like experience and consider all of these Samsung apps to be "Bloat".
IMO, I'd like to see a AOSP look and feel ROM, with some of the Samsung features in it. I'm sure someone will make something like that.
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There are lots of de-sensed ROMs in the HTC world.
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brizey said:
There are lots of de-sensed ROMs in the HTC world.
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Exactly. They run really smooth too. We need some de-wized ROM's I guess :laugh:
brizey said:
Better lockscreen
Theme engine
More internal memory
More customization (although xposed is making that less of a difference)
Sometimes things like better Bluetooth stacks
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Unfortunately no matter how small the ROM is you won't get any of that space back.
Then if there was a de-Touchwized ROM, I'd take that lol. I want to keep these things but yes I too hate the small differences in Touchwiz that aren't easily changeable without custom ROMing.
Also, I actually like the Touchwiz lock screen a lot, that sunlight effect is sick and something to show off the screen with, and you can still use the widgets just like in AOSP.
just4747 said:
I understand why people want to flash stock JB custom ROMS (me always having been one of them, for 3 phones now), but in the case of the GS4, why?
You would lose actual useful Samsung features like Multi Window (works ridiculously well), WatchON (to utilize the IR blaster), the mostly better Samsung camera app, S Health (some ppl use), and even some of the smart features like gestures, S Voice, and the eye tracking stuff.
Don't most people want at least some of these? I would never want to lose Multi Window (first time having this, especially when using Samsung Multi Window Manager to use any apps with it), WatchON, and the camera app, even having been a stock custom ROM freak for a long time with other phones.
This is the first time I feel that rooting, deodexing, debloating, and a few theme mods are enough to satisfy me (for now) mainly because I want these factory apps and features.
Anyone else?
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How is the multi-window different from just holding down Home to access recent apps? I know it puts a side slide-out bar on top of everything. Just curious.
Schoat333 said:
Your going to have people on both sides of this. Some want an AOSP like experience and consider all of these Samsung apps to be "Bloat".
IMO, I'd like to see a AOSP look and feel ROM, with some of the Samsung features in it. I'm sure someone will make something like that.
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I agree! I love the AOSP look but I really like the samsung features. They have actually been really useful!
ch0use said:
How is the multi-window different from just holding down Home to access recent apps? I know it puts a side slide-out bar on top of everything. Just curious.
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you obviously havent seen this feature in use have you?
http://youtu.be/Q25QKx16Z8E
its 28s in
I have removed almost all of the Samsung apps I can't stand them so yeah can't wait for a stock jb rom, oh and as for the watchon app.. It sucks, smart remote is way better and way more intuitive.
Galaxy S4 posted it was from.
Tfast500 said:
you obviously havent seen this feature in use have you?
http://youtu.be/Q25QKx16Z8E
its 28s in
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Exactly.
just4747 said:
Exactly.
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Yeah, I stand corrected. That is pretty slick.
I came to this phone from the galaxy nexus. I wanted something different from stock Android. Don't get me wrong I love stock Android just wanted something different. I don't use all the s app and all the air view and motion stuff. But there are some I like and use and from what I can tell there is a Rom that leaves all the features on it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2301724
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Edit: Nvm
Apologies if this is the wrong forum, I was unsure where to post it as the MIUI rom is not fixed to one phone in particular...
I have just flashed MIUIv5 for my HTC one X phone, absolutely love the rom, the graphical user interface and just about everything.
Unfortunately I am struggling with the launcher. I really love the launcher, but not being able to edit the shortcuts or change the icons with a few clicks is a killer. All the big third party launchers offer this simple feature. Quite a few third party apps end up with ugly icons with a background.
Can anyone recommend an MIUIv5 style launcher that could allow me to edit the icon/app short cuts on the desktop? I have played with Nova, Apex, Holo and they all get close with the various icon packs but the layout just doesn't look the same. I don't need an app drawer either so the MIUI launcher would have been perfect but for the icon/app issue.
Also, as much as I love this rom, many of the system apps installed I really do not or would not use. Coming from CM and AOSP roms, I would prefer not to have the system monitor apps, root monitor apps, app control, MI credit, cloud and whatever non essential apps. I would prefer it more like a bare bones rom. So my question, which of these system apps can I remove without causing rom instability? I like to install apps, play in root etc without multiple warnings, notifications for this and that.
Otherwise, fantastic stuff. I can see me being an MIUI user for a long time.
I was just wondering if any one could port S6 r S6 edge theme store app to our beloved note 2?
& would it work or not...?
any flashable zip or apk, may be...
I can't say 100% because I'm not familiar with the S6 or the app of which you speak of but it would seem to me that Theme support needs to be built into the firmware and the theme changing app itself is only the front end of that whole system (kind of like the steering wheel, pedals and dashboard in car allow you to drive and operate it but are only a small part of it). Transposing the Theme app alone into a Note 2 firmware which has no theme support would be like taking that steering wheel out, sticking it on a couch and hoping the couch would take you places.
I can totally understand why you'd want Theme support though... Samsung's Note II UI is mind numbingly ugly. I have NII as well and am still on root stock FW as well. I personally don't want to flash a 3rd party rom. I've swapped out most of the samsung apps for more modern looking ones to refresh UI a bit (ADW launcher with marshmallow theme, google messenger/photos/calendar/chrome, k9 open source email client with daytime theme, true phone for dialer and contacts, VLC for video, PowerAmp with White Plastic theme for music, Clock L/Camera M from app store etc). 80% of the UI looks really good now: flat, bright and modern. The only holdouts are the notification menu, the system dialog boxes, the part of the dialer that actually makes the phone calls and the system preference app. I'm actually seriously considering decompiling these apks and modding the UI to make it look like Marshmallow or Lolli. I'd probably post them if I do. I'm still on 4.1.2 though and I don't know how many people are still on JB for the note 2.
If you decide to install 3rd party apps to modernize your phone, be sure to read very carefully the permission section (especially the Misc part) before installing them. The fewer permissions they need the better. If an application is asking you for a permission that doesn't make sense for it, install something else. I would highly recommend a firewall to block internet access to apps that have no business going on the net (like camera, dialer, contacts, clock, launcher etc). DroidWall is an excellent firewall, bit of a pain in the ass to setup initially but totally worth it.
I'm happy (almost) owner of note5 (7SG) using it several days and still waiting my 360h... which little sux, but thats ok. I was using custom ROMs mostly RR all the time with all my previous phones.
Never used MIUI launcher before and I know why now after trying that... Maybe that is a taste problem, but not having drawer - sux.
And with this phone got several questions which can't find clear answers to... so :
Original ROM:
1. Is it possible to root without unlocking bootloader? Without TB it's pain to migrate everything from old phone...
2. Is there a way to have trebuchet launcher ported somehow from RR? (nothing that is close to it and works in play store)
3. To have Fling gestures navigation bar (like in RR)?
Probably that would be only problems that I have now... and why I want move to custom ROM. Otherwise there are things that RR will be lacking compared to stock:
1. No way to have "second space" like in MIUI ported/installed to RR? (not only for app like some "parallel space" app does but for whole desktop)
2. call recorder , automatic call recoding (on RR it's not working no mater what)...
Yes, you can root also install twrp and also install a custom rom with a locked bootloader but all of this require some carefullness methods, when you will tired to wait and have decided you have to use edl/download mode to try this.
I also dislike miui launcher without app drawer but I found finally an app from Play Store that doesnt change the icons the way it means that like this app it hasn´t its own icons so it uses exclusively from the system, its name is "My Drawer" cause the others really looks horrible and it´s like have two launchers.
About Trebuchet launcher you don´t need to port it, it´s compatible with miui and also you have better like Lawnchair launcher that is an open source with many features available.
For gestures there are many apps in Play Store so maybe this would be the one con, no fast responsive like aosp based rom, I didn´t try yet "Navigation gestures" from XDA devs
Im sorry...but under settings you actually have a way to hide the navigation bar and use the phones exclusively by gestures... is that what you are talking about?
mi phone is not in english, so cannot exactly say what is the option...but it should be something like "Full Screen Show" or something like that, it gives you an option to go "full screen" and then it teaches you how to use the gestures (cause you'll lose the nav bar).
Hope that helps in something...