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I am thinking about buying the LG V30+ or V30 Unlocked US998U phone. It looks very nice with support for an SD-card, 3.5mm jack and Oreo. It is also great to see TWRP and Root support already in place.
I do have a few questions before buying it.
1. How well will the US998U phone work on Verizon? It looks like CDMA and LTE Band 13 are supported. Can anyone provide real world experience?
2. Can I install Xposed framework and Gravitybox? I didnt see a lot of discussions about it.
thanks,
Scott
swieder711 said:
I am thinking about buying the LG V30+ Unlocked US998U phone. It looks very nice with support for an SD-card, 3.5mm jack and Oreo. It is also great to see TWRP and Root support already in place.
I do have a few questions before buying it.
1. How well will the US998U phone work on Verizon? It looks like CDMA and LTE Band 13 are supported. Can anyone provide real world experience?
2. Can I install Xposed framework and Gravitybox? I didnt see a lot of discussions about it.
thanks,
Scott
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The US998U V30+ does NOT yet have bootloader unlock and root. Only the LG V30 US998 has that, of the North America open market LG US998 variants.
I own both.
Yes, I have xposed and Gravity Box installed on my rooted V30.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
While I can't say for certain (because I don't have that phone), it's likely that some features of that phone won't work on Verizon. My previous factory unlocked LG phones didn't support video calling on Verizon. It was strange, because HD Voice works, but Video Calling doesn't, and it's the other part of "Advanced Calling". Also, Visual Voicemail doesn't work either. You'll get strange text messages that tip you off that you have a message, then just go to voicemail from your dialer. Google Voice is another option. Finally, I think I recall that Wi-Fi Calling didn't work either, but I never use it so I can't say for certain.
On the bright side, you get the stuff that Verizon removed because they didn't want to pay LG for using them. Stuff like themes and Smart Settings. You also don't have crap that no one uses, like VZ Navigator.
I use Google voice for vmail and Duo for video calls. I dont use WiFi call except occasionally Whatsapp. I would like to use VoLTE. I have a Samsung 4G Network Extender in my house which needs to work too. I am more concerned about reliable voice calls. Would I get good LTE voice and when the need arises be able to use CDMA?
I may end up with the V30 US998 since I already have a 64 GB micro SD-card in my current phone.
swieder711 said:
I use Google voice for vmail and Duo for video calls. I dont use WiFi call except occasionally Whatsapp I would like to use VoLTE. I have a Samsung 4G Network Extender in my house which needs to work too. I am more concerned about reliable voice calls. Would I get good LTE voice and when the need arises be able to use CDMA?
I may end up with the V30 US998U since I already have a 64 GB micro SD-card in my current phone.
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You saw you won't get root, right? With the V30+?
We figured out the model number on the 128GB V30+ is sometimes called US998U and sometines US998 -- but the 64GB V30 is always US998. The extra U on the end doesn't mean "unlocked" like we thought. The T-Mobile V30+ is H932U, while the V30 T-Mobile is just H932.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
Can anyone report on their experience with using the US998 V30 on Verizon?
Does it work with 3G/CDMA?
I have a Verizon 4G Network Extender at home. Anyone using one of those with the US998 V30?
thanks,
I've been using an LG V30+ (US998U, from Bhphoto) for a few months now, on Verizon. I've had zero issues with reception, and I do believe my phone occasionally goes into 3G mode. I don't have an extender to test against/comment on, though.
FYI, in case it's not obvious, there is no support for Wifi calling on Verizon with this version of the phone/OEM ROM. I'm not sure if anyone will work on that later, but I just want to throw it out there.
I also have a US998 on Verizon and the experience has been very good. No issues whatsoever.
swieder711 said:
Can anyone report on their experience with using the US998 V30 on Verizon?
Does it work with 3G/CDMA?
I have a Verizon 4G Network Extender at home. Anyone using one of those with the US998 V30?
thanks,
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I'm using the B&H US998 V30+ on Verizon.
I have a 4g extender in my house.
The phone works with it but it reports 3g on the status bar.
It says 4g under Network and levels.
When the extender is off, phone reports 3g at home because I have poor 4g.
At work it reports 4g.
You will only get a cryptic text message and a missed call notification when you get a voicemail.
Other than those things, I haven't noticed any other problems.
dvgb173 said:
I'm using the B&H US998 V30+ on Verizon.
I have a 4g extender in my house.
The phone works with it but it reports 3g on the status bar.
It says 4g under Network and levels.
When the extender is off, phone reports 3g at home because I have poor 4g.
At work it reports 4g.
You will only get a cryptic text message and a missed call notification when you get a voicemail.
Other than those things, I haven't noticed any other problems.
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Thanks for the overview of your experience with the 4G Network Extender.
What happens when you dial #48 on your phone? Does it say that "You are under a 4G Network?"
swieder711 said:
Thanks for the overview of your experience with the 4G Network Extender.
What happens when you dial #48 on your phone? Does it say that "You are under a 4G Network?"
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I'll try it when I get home.
EDIT: Yes it does.
You can get rid of the Cryptic text message for voicemails by turning off the Advanced Voice Mail feature on your account (switch it back to Basic Voicemail). I don't know exactly where that's done because my phones are under a company account and I believe the interface is different for people with personal accounts. Either way you can probably call verizon and have them do it for you if you can't find the appropriate interface.
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You can get rid of the Cryptic text message for voicemails by turning off the Advanced Voice Mail feature on your account (switch it back to Basic Voicemail). I don't know exactly where that's done because my phones are under a company account and I believe the interface is different for people with personal accounts. Either way you can probably call verizon and have them do it for you if you can't find the appropriate interface.
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I don't have the advanced voicemail.
Sorry, I meant switch from "Visual Voicemail" back to "Basic Voicemail". Advanced Voicemail was something else entirely (a pay for service if memory serves).
Flashing Verizon Oreo onto US998
Flashing Verizon Oreo onto US998
Yes, this below is a U.S. Cellular US998, but to my knowledge the only difference between that and "open market" US998 is the IMEI range of the latter (when bought retail) allows bootloader unlock. Other than that they are identical. That's why my stock firmware for open market US998 works just fine on U.S. Cellular US998.
Guess what else works just fine on US998? Verizon Oreo firmware. WOW.
mikeyinid said:
I got my V30 off a guy on Craigslist. Supposedly US unlocked variant. Turns out it's the US cellular variant which puts me in a spot. I can't get OTA updates like I've seen others say. I was able to upgrade using this method however.
My curiosity got the better of me though so using the dev LGup I was able to flash Verizon Oreo on it using partition dl. Say down the road a particular variant gets root, we could use this to flash that variants FW and root?
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ChazzMatt said:
I'm posting your comments to another thread, as it's very interesting.
Your Oreo is working good?
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
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mikeyinid said:
Yes, it works fine. Didn't even wipe data.
Only issue I see is the same issue I had before. No OTA's. It just stalls checking.
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So after flashing the VZW fw on my US cellular 998, my voicemail issues are fixed. Verizon visual voicemail works and I don't get that weird text every time I get a voicemail. But, after a lengthy chat with vzw support I am afraid that video calling will not work. I've never even used it so not a deal breaker for me...
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Chazz,
Did you try the Verizon Oreo on your V30+?
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Chazz,
Did you try the Verizon Oreo on your V30+?
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No. I'm a little hesitant since I don't use Verizon. I don't necessarily want my V30 phone identifying itself as VS996 instead of US998.
Also, to flash KDZ I'll need to re-lock the bootloader. I'm afraid my unlock.bin file won't work again if the model number is different.
For the U.S.Cellular model US998 that wouldn't matter as the bootloader can't be unlocked anyway, via the LG Developer Bootloader Unlock list website.
I'll wait for US998 Oreo.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
I have this phone with Verizon. I have to use Google's messages app, because i can't send mms pictures with other messaging apps like textra and chomp. However, i can receive mms pictures just fine. Also, the Pulse messaging app seems to work fine.
Whatever you do don't disable "LG IMS" in LG Package Disabler. It completely broke sending and receiving text messages and making and receiving phone calls on my phone. That was fun figuring out...
Shoey Peachew said:
I have this phone with Verizon. I have to use Google's messages app, because i can't send mms pictures with other messaging apps like textra and chomp. However, i can receive mms pictures just fine. Also, the Pulse messaging app seems to work fine.
Whatever you do don't disable "LG IMS" in LG Package Disabler. It completely broke sending and receiving text messages and making and receiving phone calls on my phone. That was fun figuring out...
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Textra is my default messaging app on my current phone (Moto X with 7.0). Very strange and disappointing that you can't get it to work on Verizon. Can you send SMS, but not MMS with Textra? Have you tried contacting Textra's tech support?
Can you use VoLTE for simultaneous voice and data over an LTE connection?
Textra mostly works. I can't receive mms, but i can send them just fine. Sms works. I've learned to live with Google's messaging app.
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Flashing Verizon Oreo onto US998
Yes, this below is a U.S. Cellular US998, but to my knowledge the only difference between that and "open market" US998 is the IMEI range of the latter (when bought retail) allows bootloader unlock. Other than that they are identical. That's why my stock firmware for open market US998 works just fine on U.S. Cellular US998.
Guess what else works just fine on US998? Verizon Oreo firmware. WOW.
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Yesterday I flashed the Verizon VS99610D (Nougat) KDZ onto my B&H US998 V30+ using LGUP and the PartitionDL option. It worked fine and now Voicemail works as expected, just as reported. Model number now shows as VS996.
Unfortunately I lost the ability to connect with LG Bridge, which I was using for backups. The Verizon Software update tool doesn't connect with phone either.
Today I flashed the VS 99620A (Oreo 8.0) using the same method and I have the same results.
If anybody has suggestions for regaining LG Bridge connection, Let me know.
Hey guys,
After using my V30 for a few days I realized I couldn't make or receive calls. This is weird because everything else works. The carrier is cricket.
I suspect a VoLTE configuration issue, but I don't know enough to dig into that.
Here's everything I know:
Old phone works with same SIM
SMS, MMS, and LTE data all work on V30
when placing calls, phone just says "calling" for 15-30s before showing "call ended"
when receiving calls, caller hears ring before going to voicemail
phone is new H931 frankensteined to US99820b/20h (have tried both)
Have tried reboot/reset several times
Cricket support was not much help and I don't have high hopes for LG support. Anyone experience a similar issue with their V30 or know enough about the secret menu to troubleshoot?
Thanks
I have had the US998 for 9 months and have had similar issues. I also have Cricket and for the first month, before I even rooted it, I had great service with the phone. Then I unlocked the bootloader and rooted it... Ever since I've had poor reception with the phone almost anywhere, especially when indoors. I have fine 4G internet speeds but have to go outside to make any phone call. I'm currently on rooted stock Pie through TWRP zip but I've tried countless Oreo roms, stock included, but the same problem has been with the phone for the past 7 months. I've tried every APN setting there is but keep in on global normally. Is it possible that we've messed up our modem partition? I'd think Cricket would use the same LTE bands as AT&T but I could be wrong.
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I have had the US998 for 9 months and have had similar issues. I also have Cricket and for the first month, before I even rooted it, I had great service with the phone. Then I unlocked the bootloader and rooted it... Ever since I've had poor reception with the phone almost anywhere, especially when indoors. I have fine 4G internet speeds but have to go outside to make any phone call. I'm currently on rooted stock Pie through TWRP zip but I've tried countless Oreo roms, stock included, but the same problem has been with the phone for the past 7 months. I've tried every APN setting there is but keep in on global normally. Is it possible that we've messed up our modem partition? I'd think Cricket would use the same LTE bands as AT&T but I could be wrong.
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I have no problems with AT&T signal on my rooted US998 V30+.
No, you haven't messed up your modem partition.
I have AT&T Prepaid. The only difference between that and Cricket is I have actual AT&T data servers (vs Cricket data servers) and my speeds are not capped. You're never going to see the speeds I have, because AT&T caps Cricket at 8mbps.
Why are you using "Global"? You should be using settings similar below: GSM/HSPA (sometimes called WCMDA)/LTE. Don't confuse "WCDMA" with "CDMA". They are totally different. WCDMA is HSPA, if you don't see HSPA in your settings.
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Hey guys,
After using my V30 for a few days I realized I couldn't make or receive calls. This is weird because everything else works. The carrier is cricket.
I suspect a VoLTE configuration issue, but I don't know enough to dig into that.
Here's everything I know:
Old phone works with same SIM
SMS, MMS, and LTE data all work on V30
when placing calls, phone just says "calling" for 15-30s before showing "call ended"
when receiving calls, caller hears ring before going to voicemail
phone is new H931 frankensteined to US99820b/20h (have tried both)
Have tried reboot/reset several times
Cricket support was not much help and I don't have high hopes for LG support. Anyone experience a similar issue with their V30 or know enough about the secret menu to troubleshoot?
Thanks
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1) Check your APN. Make sure it's set to what you need for Cricket. Google Cricket APN.
2) You are not currently using AT&T firmware, so you will not have VoLTE. You need to turn VoLTE off in the settings if you see it. AT&T only allows certain phones on Cricket to use VoLTE -- and you currently have "US998", not H931.
If you see VOLTE setting turn it off, see if your phone calls can be made? Trying to use the VoLTE setting when you aren't allowed VoLTE will cause phone calls to fail.
If you bootloader unlock your phone and re-flash the AT&T H931 TWRP flashable zip, it's possible you get VoLTE IF Cricket is allowed VoLTE on H931 phones. Many AT&T postpaid customers are using rooted, bootloader unlocked H931 phones and have VoLTE because they flash to the H931 TWRP flashable zip.
What was your previous phone? Just saying your "old phone" tells us nothing whatsoever. Was it AT&T branded?
Are you sure you had VoLTE on your old phone with Cricket? Or you just assume you did? If it was an iPhone, then it's possible you had VoLTE on Cricket. If it wasn't, then you may just be assuming you did. I'm not current with the phones which have VoLTE with Cricket, I just know it has been very few.
Because AT&T keeps VoLTE as a premium feature -- although they have been giving it to more phones recently. But still usually with AT&T branded phones (which my US998 V30+ is not). I do not have VoLTE on AT&T Prepaid with my US998 -- and I couldn't care less.
You don't actually need VoLTE. When you make a phone call your phone can drop down temporarily to HSPA while you have the phone call and you will still have data. When the phone call finishes your phone will then return to LTE.
I have AT&T Prepaid, as does my wife and my mother -- and all our US998 V30/V30+ phones do exactly that. We do not have VoLTE and don't care.
See screenshot. If you find this setting, turn off VoLTE see if you can make/receive phone calls until you can flash the H931 TWRP flashable zip. But also find out if AT&T H931 can use VoLTE on Cricket.
LG V30 AT&T H931-20Q ROM
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/development/lg-v30-att-h931-20f-rom-t3872926
Thanks for the detailed response.
My previous Cricket LG M327 definitely has VoLTE on Cricket per this list:
cricketwireless[dot]com/support/great-big-network/compatible-phones.html
There's also a settings option for it, and I can tell the difference between calls with/without.
If AT&T considers it a premium feature, you're probably right that it's limited to branded phones.
On my V30 I don't see an option for VoLTE in the option menu. I also don't have nearly as many options for mobile network mode as you do.
I will try flashing H931 to see if that changes anything.
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Thanks for the detailed response.
My previous Cricket LG M327 definitely has VoLTE on Cricket per this list:
cricketwireless[dot]com/support/great-big-network/compatible-phones.html
There's also a settings option for it, and I can tell the difference between calls with/without.
If AT&T considers it a premium feature, you're probably right that it's limited to branded phones.
On my V30 I don't see an option for VoLTE in the option menu. I also don't have nearly as many options for mobile network mode as you do.
I will try flashing H931 to see if that changes anything.
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Check your APN also?
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Check your APN also?
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I did check that. All correct.
I went to try it this morning and suddenly it worked on US99820b. I refurbished to 20h which is the version I want and switched to LTE/GSM network mode and it works.
Thanks for your help.
It worked for a day or so, then stopped working again. I think the issue is that Cricket is trying to provision the phone for VoLTE, but then their backend won't actually allow this IMEI to make VoLTE calls. I obtained an active SIM on another carrier and confirmed that the handset can make/receive both VoLTE and non-VoLTE calls.
Do any of you guys know how to disable VoLTE via adb/hidden menus? There is no option in the normal Settings menu with the cricket sim installed. My other option is to switch carriers.
My question/problem. What/why do I have a good 4 bars (of 5 bars) of data signal normally, but, when I decide to dial and make a telephone call, the signal strength goes to barely one bar as soon as I hit the dial button on the phone? I have not moved myself or the phone's location. The call may dial, but goes in and out and, more often than not, drops the call. At the same time, if I receive a call from someone, it is normally a much better signal, and does not drop or go in and out.
I am on Verizon phone (vs996) Frankenstein to us998 30b (pie). I have recently tried android 10 roms (Havoc, POSP). I don't know if that has anything to do with it or not? Very frustrating when trying to call someone.
Any thoughts or explanations or, hopefully, fixes?
Thx
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My question/problem. What/why do I have a good 4 bars (of 5 bars) of data signal normally, but, when I decide to dial and make a telephone call, the signal strength goes to barely one bar as soon as I hit the dial button on the phone? I have not moved myself or the phone's location. The call may dial, but goes in and out and, more often than not, drops the call. At the same time, if I receive a call from someone, it is normally a much better signal, and does not drop or go in and out.
I am on Verizon phone (vs996) Frankenstein to us998 30b (pie). I have recently tried android 10 roms (Havoc, POSP). I don't know if that has anything to do with it or not? Very frustrating when trying to call someone.
Any thoughts or explanations or, hopefully, fixes?
Thx
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If you are using Verizon on US998 firmware, then you don't have access to VoLTE (which is phone calls over LTE, Voice over LTE). LTE started out as a data-only service but for actual phone calls, carriers were still using 3G HSPA or CDMA (Verizon, Sprint). When making a phone call, phones temporarily bump down to 3G, and then jump back to LTE after the phone call is over.
With the VoLTE protocol, that finally allowed phone calls with LTE. It added VOICE capability to LTE.
However, different carriers treat VoLTE differently. T-mobile allows VoLTE and Wi-Fi calling for US998 phones, while AT&T and Verizon are more stingy. They reserve VoLTE mostly for their branded phones running their carrier firmware.
I'm an AT&T customer and I've never had VoLTE because I've never used a branded AT&T phone. For me, on AT&T, when I make a phone call I am bumped down temporarily to AT&T HSPA. Then, after the phone call, it jumps back to LTE.
If I were to flash the AT&T TWRP flashable zip, possibly I could enable that. But it's not just firmware, it's also a setting on the carrier side that has to be enabled.
Bottom line, what's happening is you are seeing you STRONG LTE signal. But when you make a phone call, you are being temporarily bumped down to Verizon CDMA. However, Verizon is in the process of dismantling all their CDMA towers. That's why your CDMA signal is so weak. Verizon plans to shutdown CDMA entirely by end of 2020. After that, you will need VoLTE to make phone calls on Verizon.
Since you have an actual VS996, you can flash the VS996 TWRP-flashable zip. Once on that firmware, see if VoLTE is enabled on your account (carrier side setting) and see if when you make phone calls you stay on LTE and are not bumped down to CDMA?
Thx, Chazz. So, it's a Verizon thing? Not necessarily something I caused by going back and forth trying out the different Android 10 roms. Good to know. I will try the 996 rom later today, since I don't need the Hotspot for a couple of days. As always, you've been very helpful, thx. :good:
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Thx, Chazz. So, it's a Verizon thing? Not necessarily something I caused by going back and forth trying out the different Android 10 roms. Good to know. I will try the 996 rom later today, since I don't need the Hotspot for a couple of days. As always, you've been very helpful, thx. :good:
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Yes, especially if you see strong LTE signal before making the phone call. Control freak Verizon (mostly) only allows VoLTE on Verizon firmware with Verizon branded phones. There may be exceptions (maybe Pixel phones?) and I know the ZTE Axon 7 (not a branded Verizon phone) somehow got VoLTE not only on ZTE stock firmware but also on LOS ROM -- but I believe ZTE paid Verizon to allow that. It's the exception that proves the rule.
Here's a a more in depth article about Verizon CDMA being shut down end of this year.
https://grantcountyreview.com/content/verizon-wireless-postpones-its-shutdown-3g-cdma networks
when Verizon closes its 2G and 3G networks at the end of 2020, 3G phones will become obsolete and non-VoLTE LTE phones will not be able to make or receive calls.
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You DO have a Verizon VoLTE capable phone -- a Verizon VS996 -- but for V30 only on Verizon firmware. If you were using T-mobile with US998 firmware, you would have no problems with VoLTE or Wi-Fi calling. T-mobile is more open than Verizon about such perks.
I don't get VoLTE with AT&T on US998 firmware, but AT&T has no plans to end 3G HSPA anytime soon.
Chazz, I thought I would give a quick update. Late Last night/early this morning, I switched to vs99630c. I have made two phone calls, one to Florida, one to Washington state. Both connected and sounded so much better than when with the us99830b Rom. Even though both dialers had a little HD in the upper left hand corner. This Rom kept the same 3 or 4 bar designation for the signal strength. Much happier with it. Even though I don't have a hotspot (may have to pay the $10(?)or so to set it up, if I decide to stay on here.
Also, I have just seen a 99630c debloated Rom someone has made, that I might try in the next day or so.
I so wanted to try the android 10 Roms, but I just had too many small issues (reboots, no hot spot, system ui crashes, etc.).
Thnx, again for your help and guidance.
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Chazz, I thought I would give a quick update. Late Last night/early this morning, I switched to vs99630c. I have made two phone calls, one to Florida, one to Washington state. Both connected and sounded so much better than when with the us99830b Rom. Even though both dialers had a little HD in the upper left hand corner. This Rom kept the same 3 or 4 bar designation for the signal strength.
Much happier with it. Even though I don't have a hotspot (may have to pay the $10(?)or so to set it up, if I decide to stay on here.
Also, I have just seen a 99630c debloated Rom someone has made, that I might try in the next day or so.
I so wanted to try the android 10 Roms, but I just had too many small issues (reboots, no hot spot, system ui crashes, etc.).
Thnx, again for your help and guidance.
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Then you are now probably using Verizon VoLTE, which is using LTE signal -- not the increasingly degraded CDMA signal Verizon will completely shut off December 31, 2020.
Verizon is probably already deprecating those towers -- leaving just enough, like when you're on the highways.
ChazzMatt said:
Then you are now probably using Verizon VoLTE, which is using LTE signal not the increasingly degraded CDMA signal Verizon will completely shut off December 31, 2020.
Verizon is probably already deprecating those towers -- leaving just enough, like when you're on the highways.
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I really want volte and vowifi for my unlocked us998. The only way to have that is to flash the vs rom, which is 30c? I'm on US99820h, what do I lose by going to the vs rom? Is there a vs 20h variant?
ldeveraux said:
I really want volte and vowifi for my unlocked us998. The only way to have that is to flash the vs rom, which is 30c? I'm on US99820h, what do I lose by going to the vs rom? Is there a vs 20h variant?
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Yes, we have Oreo VS996 KDZ. It's actually "20k", because it took Verizon two attempts to fully release LG V30 Oreo. And they released a couple extra updates for Verizon related bugs. So, although it's equivalent to US998 20h, it's a higher letter.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/development/vs996-lg-v30-verizon-vs996-t3865398
You need to have VoLTE enabled in your Verizon account, besides flashing this firmware. It helps to have it already enabled from a Verizon branded phone. But sometimes a helpful store rep willing to bend the rules can do it for you.
ChazzMatt said:
Yes, we have Oreo VS996 KDZ. It's actually "20k", because it took Verizon two attempts to fully release LG V30 Oreo. And they released a couple extra updates for Verizon related bugs.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/development/vs996-lg-v30-verizon-vs996-t3865398
You need to have VoLTE enabled in your Verizon account, besides flashing this firmware. It helps to have it already enabled from a Verizon branded phone. But sometimes a helpful store rep willing to bend the rules can do it for you.
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I thought the Pie variants were not great, lots of broken features? Or was that just the US998 versions? What were the tradeoffs to staying on Oreo?
ldeveraux said:
I thought the Pie variants were not great, lots of broken features? Or was that just the US998 versions? What were the tradeoffs to staying on Oreo?
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You asked for Verizon Oreo equivalent to US998 20h and that's what I gave you.
I'm not recommending Pie for US998.
Verizon Pie may be a lot better. I don't know. Someone using Verizon Pie will have to answer.
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You asked for Verizon Oreo equivalent to US998 20h and that's what I gave you.
I'm not recommending Pie for US998.
Verizon Pie may be a lot better. I don't know. Someone using Verizon Pie will have to answer.
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I misread, somehow thought the ROM you linked was Pie. My bad. I know dirty flash is never recommended, but could I get away with it here? What do I lose by going with the VS ROM over the US998? Apparently the only things I have to gain are VOLTE and possibly VVM?
ldeveraux said:
I misread, somehow thought the ROM you linked was Pie. My bad. I know dirty flash is never recommended, but could I get away with it here? What do I lose by going with the VS ROM over the US998? Apparently the only things I have to gain are VOLTE and possibly VVM?
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Do you have VoLTE already enabled in your Verizon account?
You'll lose the no bloatware experience, but you can fix that with Titanium Backup.
As for dirty flashing, you can try... If it doesn't work, then you have to factory reset and clean install. Don't forget to reflash Magisk.
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Do you have VoLTE already enabled in your Verizon account?
You'll lose the no bloatware experience, but you can fix that with Titanium Backup.
As for dirty flashing, you can try... If it doesn't work, then you have to factory reset and clean install. Don't forget to reflash Magisk.
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I logged into my VZW account and after 8745 menus, finally found the HD Voice section. It says it's "Active", so I should be good for the VS ROM yes?
ldeveraux said:
I logged into my VZW account and after 8745 menus, finally found the HD Voice section. It says it's "Active", so I should be good for the VS ROM yes?
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Seems like, yes.
I had to do a few steps to manually activate HD/VOLTE on my VS996 phone when I was on VZ. I documented the steps somewhere here (using ShortcutMasterLite). I know at least one other member here used the same steps on his phone. I'm thinking you'll be fine once you're on VS996.
I have not switched to Pie... still running Oreo. I have heard too many issues with Pie, so I have no desire to bother. I can't imagine VZ's Pie release is any better than Pie US998. VZ is too lazy to do anything else right, so why would they bother fixing what's wrong on US998.
Just want to quickly update this thread. I dirty flashed the VS99620K.zip in TWRP, then immediately flashed the latest Magisk zip. Everything updated perfectly, installed about 10 VZ apps, and I now have VOWIFI (and can send/receive texts!), though haven't been able to check VOLTE as I'm currently in a dead zone.
I'd already had HD calling active on my account, but can't select the option to also enable Video Calling. It says I need to contact support. I chatted multiple times with VZ support who claim it's active, though every time I try to enable it, it gives me the same error. What is this option, and do I need it? I'm pretty sure I was able to use Duo, Skype, Zoom, etc before the ROM update, am I spinning my wheels here?
Also, independent of this upgrade, my motion GIFs in any text app don't move. I thought it might have something to do with the non-VZ specific kernel, but after flashing, still just shows a static picture.
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I'd already had HD calling active on my account, but can't select the option to also enable Video Calling. It says I need to contact support. I chatted multiple times with VZ support who claim it's active, though every time I try to enable it, it gives me the same error. What is this option, and do I need it? I'm pretty sure I was able to use Duo, Skype, Zoom, etc before the ROM update, am I spinning my wheels here?
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Are you the account holder? Some people can't get to it as they are just user.
https://community.verizonwireless.c...video-calling-feature-is-disabled/td-p/853001
I'm not sure what Verizon video calling is. I'm guessing some Verizon-only video chat -- like Apple's FaceTime is only for iOS? If you are already using Duo, Skype, Zoom, it would seem you don't need it. But you do make sure you have voice over LTE (VoLTE, called "HD calling" Verzion) --before end of this year.
ChazzMatt said:
Are you the account holder? Some people can't get to it as they are just user.
https://community.verizonwireless.c...video-calling-feature-is-disabled/td-p/853001
I'm not sure what video calling is. I'm guessing some Verizon-only video chat -- like Apple's FaceTime is only for iOS? If you are already using Duo, Skype, Zoom, you don't need it. But you do need to get voice over LTE.
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I am the only user on this account, so definitely the account holder. After more wasted chats with VZ, they said that since my phone is not VZ branded, it's not eligible for Video Calling, which apparently is exactly as you described; Facetime for non-iphone Verizon users. I don't need that, as you said all my other platforms work fine.
How do I determine if VOLTE works? Like I said, I'm in a dead zone now, but going out to a good cell region in a few hours and can check then somehow. I did confirm that I can make calls and text over WiFi, so that's half the battle. How to check VOLTE?
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How do I determine if VOLTE works? Like I said, I'm in a dead zone now, but going out to a good cell region in a few hours and can check then somehow. I did confirm that I can make calls and text over WiFi, so that's half the battle. How to check VOLTE?
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I think if you have Vo-WiFi that means your VoLTE is also activated. They seem to be packaged together.
If you make a call in a good signal area, see if the "4GLTE" icon stays on when you make the call. It may even change to VoLTE icon? or HD calling icon? A Verizon user can probably tell you better. But the key is to see if there are any status bar icon changes and what they are. Also see if there is any information in the dialer GUI during the call, where you click on the dialer timer.
Yeah, don't talk to VZ. They're too stupid to help and downright liars. Your phone will work fine on their network even if it's not VZ branded (I've used US998 and H931 phones on VZ without issue).
On my phone, I did have to do some setting changes in SML (ShortcutMasterLite) to get VOLTE working. I don't think most people have to do that, but I did... and I agree, I think that got VOWIFI working as well. I'm guessing you have both, too... just need to try it. If not, you can force-activate it as I documented earlier (via SML).
I have an unlocked Sprint lgv30 Plus. It's an LS998. Switched it over to T-Mobile it has a T-Mobile SIM card in it everything works with the phone like LTE and SMS just not MMS. Tried a few times with the techs at T-Mobile and they can't seem to find the problem. Can anybody help with this problem? Thanks in advance
Is it bone-stock otherwise, or have you bootloader unlocked or rooted or rommed to get to LS998?
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Is it bone-stock otherwise, or have you bootloader unlocked or rooted or rommed to get to LS998?
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I don't understand bone stock but it was purchased from Sprint and nothing was done to it it's stock from Sprint. Nothing worked with the T-Mobile SIM until we got it unlocked from Sprint and we created the APN for T-Mobile. We tried all suggested APNs and still everything works but MMS.
Well, if it was purchased from Sprint, then they should be held responsible... it's their phone and ROM after all. TMo merged with Sprint, so it's their problem as well... not yours.
Without rooting the phone, there isn't a lot we can do here on XDA, because the manufacturers and carriers have locked you out of such things anyway. Once rooted, there are things we can try, but this should be your last recourse... it's their problem, make them fix it. If they can't then they should give you a replacement phone that works... after all, that's what you paid for.
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I don't understand bone stock but it was purchased from Sprint and nothing was done to it it's stock from Sprint. Nothing worked with the T-Mobile SIM until we got it unlocked from Sprint and we created the APN for T-Mobile. We tried all suggested APNs and still everything works but MMS.
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You can always convert to US998 and see if that works to get MMS. There are many T-mobile customers on US998 firmware.
I spoke with T-Mobile and they said there's nothing they can do and they're only offering me $21 for the phone so I would like to do what I can to get it working such as routing and putting on us998 but I don't know how
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I spoke with T-Mobile and they said there's nothing they can do and they're only offering me $21 for the phone so I would like to do what I can to get it working such as routing and putting on us998 but I don't know how
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...ar-instructions.3790500/page-10#post-76584629
That's surprising. How long ago did you buy this phone? I would certainly put up a much bigger stink with them, as they sold you a defective product. Of course, if it's been a while, then I misunderstood... your initial post implied it was a recent purchase.
Anyway, as for rooting it, use the WTF thread (as mentioned by ldeveraux above). The key is you must read it carefully and completely... multiple times... and on a PC NOT ON THE PHONE. The post is long, but the post is very clear and details ALL the paths you would need to take. You may not need to follow all of them, so you do the ones that apply to you, one by one. Print out the post, and have it handy to use a a checklist to go through the process.
If you're not sure, you can certainly ask on that thread. Keep in mind, MANY people have used this process without issue, so if you're missing something it's likely in the post, and you just need to be more careful reading it. In reality, you should have no questions, as everything is in there... so please make the effort to read it carefully, multiple times, and follow the instructions. It's not difficult... just very specific and precise.
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I spoke with T-Mobile and they said there's nothing they can do and they're only offering me $21 for the phone
so I would like to do what I can to get it working such as routing and putting on us998 but I don't know how
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You may not have to unlock bootloader and root just to get T-mobile MMS. I would first just try installing US998 firmware.
If that works, then later you can decide whether you wish the total control over your phone that root brings.
You would need to do some of this anyway for the "WTF" boootloader unlock and root method, but right now you don't have to do it all.
You just need to follow the Frankenstein instructions and first flash Nougat US998 (very old, but necessary), then do a Master Reset (explained in the instructions) to stop any bootlooping. Then you would install US998 firmware more recent like Oreo 20H US9998 (very stable, lot of fixes and improvement).
After that, put in your T-mobile SIM card and see if you get MMS. With US998 firmware you will now have these bands:
US998
CDMA: 800 MHz CDMA
2G GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G UMTS (HSPA):850/900/1900/2100 MHz
4G LTE Bands: 1/2/3/4/5/7/12(17)/13/20/25/66
As I said before, we have lots of T-mobile users on US998 firmware. So, surely they are getting MMS.
If that works to solve your problem and then you still wish to unlock bootloader and root, in the WTF Instructions you would have to do some of those same steps anyway (Nougat US998 and Master Reset), but would just TEMPORARILY use an earlier version of Oreo US998 (like 20a or 20b) before moving on to US998 20h.
Follow the "Frankenstein" instructions linked above. Read in a web browser, not an app. There's also several Trouble Shooting Steps at the bottom of that post.
This same issue happened to me, as well, except the problem was only with sending or receiving from apple devices. MMS and pictures worked fine to and from android devices. I purchased a V30+ from sprint back in 2017. Switched to T-Mo in Jan., 2021. My V30+ is stock. T-Mo's solution was to replace my V30+ with an LG Velvet as they could not figure this out and didn't want to be bothered. Was told it was my device and going from CDMA to GSM. I really like my V30+ and would love to find out how to get MMS working again so I can return this Velvet within the 14 days I have. Is it true if changing from LS998 to US998 that you lose VOLTE and WiFi Calling? These are important to me and would hate to loose those features but would also love to get the DTS audio. Any help is appreciated.
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This same issue happened to me, as well, except the problem was only with sending or receiving from apple devices. MMS and pictures worked fine to and from android devices. I purchased a V30+ from sprint back in 2017. Switched to T-Mo in Jan., 2021. My V30+ is stock. T-Mo's solution was to replace my V30+ with an LG Velvet as they could not figure this out and didn't want to be bothered. Was told it was my device and going from CDMA to GSM. I really like my V30+ and would love to find out how to get MMS working again so I can return this Velvet within the 14 days I have. Is it true if changing from LS998 to US998 that you lose VOLTE and WiFi Calling? These are important to me and would hate to loose those features but would also love to get the DTS audio. Any help is appreciated.
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No, that's NOT true with T-Mobile. US998 supports T-Mobile VoLTE and Wi-Fi calling. Or at least they do with older SIM cards. Someone with newer SIM card says something may have changed. But that person had an MVNO SIM card, not official T-Mobile SIM card. Another MVNO said his SIM card still works just fine.
Follow the Frankenstein instructions, change to US998 Nougat, then Master Reset, then US998 Oreo 20h.
I tried looking at the Franken phone instructions and being a newbie I did not understand them so they're no use to me I've rooted phones in the past but I don't understand the instructions