Hi
Is there a chance to have windows 10 arm on our redmi5+ like on lumia950xl ?
It would be nice to have a phone with a secondary boot option for windows 10 arm.
I don't think so as it was barely "running" on snapdragon 835.
knot2006 said:
I don't think so as it was barely "running" on snapdragon 835.
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I m talking about windows 10 arm
inconnu29 said:
I m talking about windows 10 arm
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You mean Windows 10 Mobile ?
I guess it's possible but it's officially, a dead OS so I don't think any Dev would waste his time to do it.
https://linustechtips.com/main/topi...19-recommends-users-switch-to-ios-or-android/
knot2006 said:
You mean Windows 10 Mobile ?
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you need professional help
inconnu29 said:
you need professional help
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lmao
@knot2006, remember that some months ago Microsoft showcased Windows 10 (the full Windows OS) running on a ARM-based device with a Snapdragon 845. This means that, if powerful enough, an ARM device can run a full Windows desktop and maybe some other OSes like Linux distros.
Unfortunately for OP, vince's chipset is not powerful enough to run Win10 ARM decently.
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lmao
@knot2006, remember that some months ago Microsoft showcased Windows 10 (the full Windows OS) running on a ARM-based device with a Snapdragon 845. This means that, if powerful enough, an ARM device can run a full Windows desktop and maybe some other OSes like Linux distros.
Unfortunately for OP, vince's chipset is not powerful enough to run Win10 ARM decently.
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You can run linux in a pentium 1, so why not on a smartphone? I dont think there will be power limitations.
moralesnery said:
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@knot2006, remember that some months ago Microsoft showcased Windows 10 (the full Windows OS) running on a ARM-based device with a Snapdragon 845. This means that, if powerful enough, an ARM device can run a full Windows desktop and maybe some other OSes like Linux distros.
Unfortunately for OP, vince's chipset is not powerful enough to run Win10 ARM decently.
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Read my first post where I mentioned that it was bearly running on a way more powerful SoC so it might be hard to get it running on Snap 625
josedb said:
You can run linux in a pentium 1, so why not on a smartphone? I dont think there will be power limitations.
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Windows is not a Linux my dude, while Linux and it's kernel are very modular Windows is not especially Windows 10 and we are already running Linux as Android is a flavor of it.
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any way to get the windows os on these
xscruffy420x said:
any way to get the windows os on these
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No.
I read somewhere recently though, something having to do with Windows 8 that Microsoft was working on a port for ARM processors. Likely this won't include our old ARM v6 processor, however.
Reference:
Windows 8 ARM Press Release By Microsoft | Windows 8 News
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Windows 8 ARM based tablets may launch before full desktop version ...
But the work of porting such a complex operating system, nevermind the SIZE, is way beyond anyone but the original author(s), especially since Windows is not open-source, which Android is.
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
No.
I read somewhere recently though, something having to do with Windows 8 that Microsoft was working on a port for ARM processors. Likely this won't include our old ARM v6 processor, however.
Reference:
Windows 8 ARM Press Release By Microsoft | Windows 8 News
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Windows 8 ARM based tablets may launch before full desktop version ...
But the work of porting such a complex operating system, nevermind the SIZE, is way beyond anyone but the original author(s), especially since Windows is not open-source, which Android is.
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Maybe not for the Eris but there are some mean phones that could support it. Look at the hd2 I think it was. That phone came with winmo. Android got ported to it so it would be to easy to port winmo to any suitable phone.
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This may sound like a weird question, but I am just curious to know if it is possible to install windows 7, or xp on Galaxy tab 10.1. As my limited knowledge about computers tells me, GT is essentially a computer with a cpu and ram and a kind of hard drive, so theoretically at least, it seems to me that it should be possible to install windows on the tablet.
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This may sound like a weird question, but I am just curious to know if it is possible to install windows 7, or xp on Galaxy tab 10.1. As my limited knowledge about computers tells me, GT is essentially a computer with a cpu and ram and a kind of hard drive, so theoretically at least, it seems to me that it should be possible to install windows on the tablet.
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Welcome to the forums. The answer is no. Windows won't run on the chip that's in the tablet (it's called ARM architecture; same reason windows won't run on a cellphone). I've heard rumors that windows 8 may be possible at some point.
I have Windows 7 on my Tab 10 so yes you can use Windows 7.
5thElement said:
I have Windows 7 on my Tab 10 so yes you can use Windows 7.
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and how did you manage this?
5thElement said:
I have Windows 7 on my Tab 10 so yes you can use Windows 7.
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You have the install disc sitting on your Tab?
Seriously, though. That sounds like horse**** from the same guy who claims to have played with Kal-el devices. Let's see a video.
How's this?
Splashtop HD running my home computer from work.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0x48GuhNnI
Excuse the fumbling. It's hard to work the screen looking at the phone screen. And I should mention that we only have an 802.11g connection here at work.
Thank you Jay Evans for proving them wrong.
Well, holy hell! That means I have OS X Lion running on my Tab.
Thank you for the replies. Although I understand that some of us here might be in a rather humorous mood, but just to clarify: my question was not about remote desktops. I still think there has to be a way to have windows running on GT. Another question in this regard is about virtual machines. Is there any kind of VM available for honeycomb tablets?
While it might be possible you wouldn't enjoy the results. Especialy if you want to run actual programs on it. It would be as slow as molassas and suck the battery dry in no time.
Better to buy a Win 7 tablet and wait for something like Bluestacks to run Android or wait for the ARM version of Win 8.
It won't happen, Windows is based off x86 architecture and Android Tablets and phones are based off of ARM architecture, Windows 8 will have support for ARM though, so wait a year
While the answer to your question is still 'no', it is possible to run Windows 95 or 98 using emulators. There is a QEMU port for Android ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6661598 ) that does it, and I've also heard that you can install windows using AnDosBox.
I know this is not a dev thread but theres no where els to post this.
I'm probably not the first person to ask this for a tablet, but is there anyway on putting a version of windows on the gen 9s because the gen 9s have enough power to run windows EG: windows XP.
Is this even possible for a honeycomb tablet or not ?
The problem is not the "power" of the tablet but the CPU architecture they are running... Windows is designed to run on X86 Cpu's, our tablets are running an ARM Cpu... so you WILL be able to get windows on our tablets once windows releases windows 8, that has an ARM version... after that It's just a matter of being able to get the drivers for windows
Ok well I really don't like windows 8 from what I've seen from the preview videos on youtube.
I prefer the bare bones look of windows 7 or below. Hopefully there will be a way of getting that windows phone 7 look off of windows 8 otherwise i ant upgrading to windows 8 on my laptop or tablet.
That is just the Metro UI, you can disable it in the controle panel... Once you've done that, you basically have Windows 7 with some upgraded features, and some handy touch-implemented applications
But It's too early to know for sure if we can get it working on the G9 tablets, when It's released I'll give it a try
Well I hope you can disable it because I hate it.
alex ainsley said:
Well I hope you can disable it because I hate it.
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yep! just a setting in the control panel, easy to get rid of.
You are somehow wrong.
In the X86 Developer Edition you are able to disable Metro,
but as the ARM Version will not have the normal Desktop (as no x86 Program will run)
you have to live with Metro.
But as every Linux for ARM out there is as "Basic" as XP, you can use that now.
fzelle said:
You are somehow wrong.
In the X86 Developer Edition you are able to disable Metro,
but as the ARM Version will not have the normal Desktop (as no x86 Program will run)
you have to live with Metro.
But as every Linux for ARM out there is as "Basic" as XP, you can use that now.
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oh, you are right, ARM version only has metro, forgot about that...
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oh, you are right, ARM version only has metro, forgot about that...
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are you serious?? ugh.
I just hope that I'll be able to play AOE 2 on my tablet.
you won't be able to do.
aoe2 has no arm-builds. it only runs on x86-compatible systems.
you will not be able to run photoshop, counterstrike or any other well-known software. not if the maintainer of the software decides to create an arm-version.
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you won't be able to do.
aoe2 has no arm-builds. it only runs on x86-compatible systems.
you will not be able to run photoshop, counterstrike or any other well-known software. not if the maintainer of the software decides to create an arm-version.
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uhm.. But, i heard that WINE was going to support ARM... No chanche regarding an AOE2 through WINE?
vicesig said:
uhm.. But, i heard that WINE was going to support ARM... No chanche regarding an AOE2 through WINE?
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Possibly, but already the stability that Wine has on x86 machines is terrible, so I wouldn't hope too much... there are alternatives thou
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Possibly, but already the stability that Wine has on x86 machines is terrible, so I wouldn't hope too much... there are alternatives thou
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really, which ones? I can't find any.
vicesig said:
really, which ones? I can't find any.
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well, for android I've tried Age of Conquest by Gameloft and that isnt bad... bit like risiko, so it might be a bit more static than what you are looking for... otherwise you can try settlers... other than those I haven't looked that much... I'm sure we will have some options in ubuntu as well...
If I could install Windows 7 along side Android on this thing, then I'd replace my laptop as my main PC. Is this possible? Or if not, will it be in the future with Windows 8? I can wait a few more months, by then maybe the price will drop some as well ^_^.
No, Windows 7 will never be compatible on an ARM based tablet because it is made for x86/Itanium architecture.
Windows 8: Maybe- depends on the driver release but that is atleast a few months away so no one can really say.
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No, Windows 7 will never be compatible on an ARM based tablet because it is made for x86/Itanium architecture.
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Not even Itanium on Windows 7, it's x86/x64 only.
Windows 8 will be theoretically compatible but it remains to be seen whether it will actually be possible to install it on the Prime. Don't forget that Windows 8 on ARM won't run existing Windows programs away.
I'd be interested in an Ubuntu or such dual-boot.
can we have more windows threads please?
i mean really? as if the windows 8 threads concerning an OS which won't be out (in it's ARM form) until late next year weren't enough, we get ones about an OS that CLEARLY wont' work on ARM arch.
i don't say it often, but a quick search would have turned up the answer that x86 OS' will never work on ARM arch. ESPECIALLY ones that are not open source to be dismantled by a crazy person to be made to work somehow.
Haloman800 said:
If I could install Windows 7 along side Android on this thing, then I'd replace my laptop as my main PC. Is this possible? Or if not, will it be in the future with Windows 8? I can wait a few more months, by then maybe the price will drop some as well ^_^.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1365283&highlight=windows
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1368651&highlight=windows
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1407305&highlight=windows
Since when did the Prime have a ARM processor that's a cheap CPU found in netbooks.
Officially there will never be a Windows OS for Transformer Prime, ASUS already have a tablet on the market for Windows and it's the Eee Slate EP121, and like the other Windows tablets it's big, heavy, and lack multitouch support for it's touchscreen and requires a stylus and it retails for a whopping $1400.
Unofficially anything is possible. Heck you can run Mac OS X on non Apple hardware thanks to the Project OS X team.
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Since when did the Prime have a ARM processor that's a cheap CPU found in netbooks.
Officially there will never be a Windows OS for Transformer Prime, ASUS already have a tablet on the market for Windows and it's the Eee Slate EP121, and like the other Windows tablets it's big, heavy, and lack multitouch support for it's touchscreen and requires a stylus and it retails for a whopping $1400.
Unofficially anything is possible. Heck you can run Mac OS X on non Apple hardware thanks to the Project OS X team.
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Lol are you joking? You are right?!
And no! There won't be ever a Windows 7 copy running on he Prime. Never!
am I joking no. but I'm not sure where ARM gets associate with Prime when it clearly shows in the specs that it has a Nvidia Tegra 3 Quad Core CPU.
My Palm Treo phone has a ARM processor and it's old and slow as ****.
The second part is true, Project OS X is basically a hacked version of Mac OS X that can run on non-Apple PC hardware.
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am I joking no. but I'm not sure where ARM gets associate with Prime when it clearly shows in the specs that it has a Nvidia Tegra 3 Quad Core CPU.
My Palm Treo phone has a ARM processor and it's old and slow as ****.
The second part is true, Project OS X is basically a hacked version of Mac OS X that can run on non-Apple PC hardware.
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Oh wow... I guess you slept the last years...? Maybe get a read on mobile processors... They are all ARM based....
People really shouldn't try to argue about things they have no idea about...
And i know you can run OSX on non apple hardware. That doesn't change the fact that Windows 7 can't run at all on the Prime. Never!
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Oh wow... I guess you slept the last years...? Maybe get a read on mobile processors... They are all ARM based....
People really shouldn't try to argue about things they have no idea about...
And i know you can run OSX on non apple hardware. That doesn't change the fact that Windows 7 can't run at all on the Prime. Never!
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I'm not arguing. Sounds like you want to though.
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Plus who's to say that there won't be any virtual OS software made for Android that would allow you to install Windows onto it.
there would go that whole never be able to right there. Anything is possible.
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I'm not arguing. Sounds like you want to though.
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Plus who's to say that there won't be any virtual OS software made for Android that would allow you to install Windows onto it.
there would go that whole never be able to right there. Anything is possible.
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Because Windows 7 is made for x86/x64 processor architecture and not ARM.
There will be a extra super special version of Windows 8 written only for ARM processors
This version may run on the Prime. But not Windows 7.
If there was a way of running x86 code on ARM processors, Microsoft wouldn't rewrite Windows parts for the ARM architecture.
Get a read about processors architecture etc.
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Because Windows 7 is made for x86/x64 processor architecture and not ARM.
There will be a extra super special version of Windows 8 written only for ARM processors
This version may run on the Prime. But not Windows 7.
If there was a way of running x86 code on ARM processors, Microsoft wouldn't rewrite Windows parts for the ARM architecture.
Get a read about processors architecture etc.
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why are you continuing to go on about hardware compatibility when I clearly referred to software as far as anything's possible.
Please explain why the nVidia Tegra 3 cpu wouldn't be able to run Windows 7 in a virtual OS environment?
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why are you continuing to go on about hardware compatibility when I clearly referred to software as far as anything's possible.
Please explain why the nVidia Tegra 3 cpu wouldn't be able to run Windows 7 in a virtual OS environment?
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Because you can't run x86/x64 code on ARM processors... I already said that.
It's the same for x86/x64 code... You can't run x64 code on a x86 processors.
That's why there are different x86 and x64 versions of e.g. Firefox.
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Because you can't run x86/x64 code on ARM processors... I already said that.
It's the same for x86/x64 code... You can't run x64 code on a x86 processors.
That's why there are different x86 and x64 versions of e.g. Firefox.
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yes you can run x86 code on ARM cpus, through emulation software. It can be done on some ARM devices out now.
Go lookup Bosch x86 emulator for ARM.
I would like to see an ARM processor try to emulate x86 architecture. Anyone who's ever tried looking for emulation software knows that emulation is slow as hell. While PCs are faster than both PS3s and Xbox 360s, are there emulators? No. Why? Because you need much more power to translate the architectures to something the processor understands. This is why x86, a large and powerful architecture will never run on ARM properly. Even Bosch's website says so:
1.9.5. Tell me about performance when running Bochs.
Because Bochs emulates every x86 instruction and all the devices in a PC system, it does not reach high emulation speeds.
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Or better, you could try emulation on a Prime. I'm sure you don't mind seeing how slow Tegra 3 can be
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yes you can run x86 code on ARM cpus, through emulation software. It can be done on some ARM devices out now.
Go lookup Bosch x86 emulator for ARM.
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Yea, so show me this thing running on a Tegra 2/3 other modern ARM processor...
I haven't seen something like this on the site.
Apart from that the emulator doesn't seem to be compatible with Win7?
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I would like to see an ARM processor try to emulate x86 architecture. Anyone who's ever tried looking for emulation software knows that emulation is slow as hell. While PCs are faster than both PS3s and Xbox 360s, are there emulators? No. Why? Because you need much more power to translate the architectures to something the processor understands. This is why x86, a large and powerful architecture will never run on ARM properly. Even Bosch's website says so:
Or better, you could try emulation on a Prime. I'm sure you don't mind seeing how slow Tegra 3 can be
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I would mind boging it down lol. Doesn't seem like an easy task. Just wondering because this made me think about it. On Antutu, there is a prime that is oced. Why don't we have that
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That is probably a development Prime from Asus to see how the higher clocks impact performance and battery life, and it seems they feel that 1.3GHz (up to 1.4GHz under certain conditions) is the sweet spot.
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That is probably a development Prime from Asus to see how the higher clocks impact performance and battery life, and it seems they feel that 1.3GHz (up to 1.4GHz under certain conditions) is the sweet spot.
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ook. Thanks for answering that. and sorry OP for going off topic.
try running older versions of OSX (before apple switched to intel chips) on a PC and tell me anything is possible.
if you want to run win7 on your prime, use the remote desktop. it's going to be the only way you'll get there.
Anybody considering installing Windows 8 on their Tablet S?
it won't work.
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Anybody considering installing Windows 8 on their Tablet S?
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Not me. I predict Windows 8 will experience the same level of success as did Windows 3.0, 95, Bob, ME, and Vista.
Windows 8 rt will only run on tabs that are specifically made for it.
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Windows 8 will not run, because it has not been developed for ARM processors, i doubt the tegra 2 will run it smoothly.
win 95 98 xp, should run very good though
ross231 said:
Windows 8 will not run, because it has not been developed for ARM processors, i doubt the tegra 2 will run it smoothly.
win 95 98 xp, should run very good though
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Actually it has been developed for ARM, hence why OP asked. But you're correct in that it won't run; its much like Android, each device needs a custom set of drivers and image developed for it and that only will happen for new devices with just Win8 on them. It's not like the desktop version which can be installed anywhere.
Windows 8 comes in two flavours, WinRT (which is an ARM-compatible version of Windows 8 which only includes Metro) and standard Windows 8 which is an x86-64 only image which includes legacy support. However, to run Windows 8 RT on an ARM device, it needs to be Windows certified. It then needs to run a Secure Boot (probably EFI-based) bootloader and must sign all of its boot sectors. I can be fairly confident that unless there are some pretty incredible leaps in development, we will never see Windows 8 RT on the Sony Tablet S.
Ironically, the hardware is not a problem. The Tegra 2 is an ARM processor, that conforms to all of the ARM Cortex guidelines. Our touchscreen controller is a common one and most of the other hardware (except for 3G equipment, and possibly the IR blaster) is either very common or already has device drivers that would make it theoretically possible to run Windows-style ARM images. Unfortunately, Windows 8 itself is the problem in this case.
Let's also not forget that Microsoft will only ever release Windows 8 RT pre-installed on signed-code OEM devices, making any sort of development or porting very very difficult.