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Quick question...is the last update, the one that went out to the international Note with the adjusted keyboard option to one side or the other and the lockscreen changes a few weeks back, already installed on the forthcoming ATT Note? Curiously it seems that none of the reviews of late mention it as some still complain about stretching the thumb all the way across the screen to type without being able to adjust the keyboard. Thanks.
My guess would be no, but the minute you install Kies, or try an OTA update via wi-fi, it will show up.
I got my international note on Dec 23, the minute I connected there was 1 update available, and two weeks later another update which brought it to LA4, 2.3.6
These things probably have a 1 month or more window from production, shipping to, then arrival at a store.
I work on photocopiers, and the serial numbers have the build dates, and even though these things weigh 500 pounds or more, they have a 3-6 month window from production, to us unboxing them in our office. Most of the time, they are one version of firmware out of date.
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My guess would be no, but the minute you install Kies, or try an OTA update via wi-fi, it will show up.
I got my international note on Dec 23, the minute I connected there was 1 update available, and two weeks later another update which brought it to LA4, 2.3.6
These things probably have a 1 month or more window from production, shipping to, then arrival at a store.
I work on photocopiers, and the serial numbers have the build dates, and even though these things weigh 500 pounds or more, they have a 3-6 month window from production, to us unboxing them in our office. Most of the time, they are one version of firmware out of date.
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Thanks p51. I can't wait to get my hands on this beast.
p51d007 said:
My guess would be no, but the minute you install Kies, or try an OTA update via wi-fi, it will show up.
I got my international note on Dec 23, the minute I connected there was 1 update available, and two weeks later another update which brought it to LA4, 2.3.6
These things probably have a 1 month or more window from production, shipping to, then arrival at a store.
I work on photocopiers, and the serial numbers have the build dates, and even though these things weigh 500 pounds or more, they have a 3-6 month window from production, to us unboxing them in our office. Most of the time, they are one version of firmware out of date.
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International and AT&T have separate/different firmware release schedule and different firmwares as well. So, don't expect to see a firmware already there wait for you to update. It never happened on any AT&T devices.
Even though Samsung will frequently update firmware on international version, not so on AT&T version. First of all, AT&T has to request an updated firmware from Samsung. Without AT&T's request, Samsung can't do anything about it. Then, it takes couple months for AT&T test the updated firmware before OKed for release. Then, AT&T has to agree on a date for the release. Let's say GNote 2 or GS3 is about to be released on AT&T, the update for current Note will be delayed until the new phones are out of door.
I won't expect any update on AT&T Note until summer at the earliest unless some serious bug is found.
Got my i717M yesterday. It's running LA2. I have not come across any options for the updated keyboard.
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International and AT&T have separate/different firmware release schedule and different firmwares as well. So, don't expect to see a firmware already there wait for you to update. It never happened on any AT&T devices.
Even though Samsung will frequently update firmware on international version, not so on AT&T version. First of all, AT&T has to request an updated firmware from Samsung. Without AT&T's request, Samsung can't do anything about it. Then, it takes couple months for AT&T test the updated firmware before OKed for release. Then, AT&T has to agree on a date for the release. Let's say GNote 2 or GS3 is about to be released on AT&T, the update for current Note will be delayed until the new phones are out of door.
I won't expect any update on AT&T Note until summer at the earliest unless some serious bug is found.
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+1. All updates to the ATT version must be approved by ATT. No such bottleneck for our version. Not to mention DBT seems to be on the ball.
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True, IF any at&t note gets an update, consider yourself lucky
A carrier rom is usually the LAST one to get an update (except for iJunk).
Plus, please use caution and if you look for a rom not from a carrier, don't
try installing a rom made for an international (GT-N7000) to an at&t (SGH-i717)
and vice versa. Guarantee you'll brick it.
foxbat121 said:
International and AT&T have separate/different firmware release schedule and different firmwares as well. So, don't expect to see a firmware already there wait for you to update. It never happened on any AT&T devices.
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Yep, that's the version I have, CSC says DBT
planoman said:
+1. All updates to the ATT version must be approved by ATT. No such bottleneck for our version. Not to mention DBT seems to be on the ball.
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I wasn't aware of the keyboard adjustment, it sounds like the perfect fix for those of us that are under 6'4" and paw challenged. Shame the carriers are so timid regarding upgrades, but this keyboard fix is a need market app developers should quickly supply. That will make waiting for the big boys to bring goodies like CM9 a little more bearable. : )
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p51d007 said:
True, IF any at&t note gets an update, consider yourself lucky
A carrier rom is usually the LAST one to get an update (except for iJunk).
Plus, please use caution and if you look for a rom not from a carrier, don't
try installing a rom made for an international (GT-N7000) to an at&t (SGH-i717)
and vice versa. Guarantee you'll brick it.
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Thanks for that info! Being a longtime iPhone user without much Android experience, it helps to know things like this.
planoman said:
+1. All updates to the ATT version must be approved by ATT. No such bottleneck for our version. Not to mention DBT seems to be on the ball.
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Gotcha. Thanks Planoman...from McKinneyMan
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Gotcha. Thanks Planoman...from McKinneyMan
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Cool! Lots of us Texans on the LTE phone threads. Down in San Antonio today and LTE is rocking! Did you order the GNote? If so,not much longer now! Just saw an article on the GNote in USA today. You will love it!
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So I'm guessing that means the LTE variant won't have the Evernote sync option from S Memo yet? Can any Canadian users confirm?
vizographic said:
I wasn't aware of the keyboard adjustment, it sounds like the perfect fix for those of us that are under 6'4" and paw challenged. Shame the carriers are so timid regarding upgrades, but this keyboard fix is a need market app developers should quickly supply. That will make waiting for the big boys to bring goodies like CM9 a little more bearable. : )
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I have Thumb Keyboard from the market that I use on my 10.1 tab and it works beautifully by being able to move keyboard, split it, etc. I did notice it has a setting for 5" phone/tablet. Looking forward to seeing if it works on Note...and how well.
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I have Thumb Keyboard from the market that I use on my 10.1 tab and it works beautifully by being able to move keyboard, split it, etc. I did notice it has a setting for 5" phone/tablet. Looking forward to seeing if it works on Note...and how well.
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I have the one handed option on LA4 firmware. I do not use it as I think the GNote works well with 2 hands. I will take a screen shot later and post so you can see it.
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Cool! Lots of us Texans on the LTE phone threads. Down in San Antonio today and LTE is rocking! Did you order the GNote? If so,not much longer now! Just saw an article on the GNote in USA today. You will love it!
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Great news on the LTE. Pre-ordered through BBY in McKinney to get the 50 buck gc and free cover. Still debating which insurance to get. Stepping up from the Captivate..it has seen better days. Very excited to get this beast and see what the developers can do with it.
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Great news on the LTE. Pre-ordered through BBY in McKinney to get the 50 buck gc and free cover. Still debating which insurance to get. Stepping up from the Captivate..it has seen better days. Very excited to get this beast and see what the developers can do with it.
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You will love your GNote! I got ensquared for my GNote back in December, $58 for one year since I did not have a manufacturers warranty which you do. It is the only phone I have ever bought insurance on.
This is a screen shot of the stock Gingerbread Keyboard. I like it better than the Samsung keyboard. The one handed keyboard is Samsung keyboard option on my firmware LA4. I have not used it because I think the regular keyboard is the perfect size for emailing and texting two handed.
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Gotcha. Thanks Planoman...from McKinneyMan
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Another McKinney person here. Well, really Melissa, but close enough!
Had my Intl Note for a few month and loving it. Will pick up my ATT note from BB this Sunday also. Gotta try out the LTE.
3_D said:
Another McKinney person here. Well, really Melissa, but close enough!
Had my Intl Note for a few month and loving it. Will pick up my ATT note from BB this Sunday also. Gotta try out the LTE.
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We may need to start a Collin County GNote club! lol! I want the LTE model as well! Right now I am looking to get an unlocked Canadian Bell model. We'll see if that works out. Turns out if would be about $50 more than the ATT model for no commitment. Just checking out a few details. They have the NFC enabled so I am checking to see if you can load Google Wallet and if it works etc.
Are you able to activate it?
So I got my unlocked version from samsung and tried to activate through sprint with the sim card from my s7edge and they are telling me I need to purchase a new sim because this one isn't compatible
What gives?
Had to do the same thing with my S8+ coming from S7 edge. Quick trip to Sprint store with your new phone in hand and they will give you the Sim card and activate it. You probably will not be charged either. I didn't and I bought my S8 from Best buy.
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Had to do the same thing with my S8+ coming from S7 edge. Quick trip to Sprint store with your new phone in hand and they will give you the Sim card and activate it. You probably will not be charged either. I didn't and I bought my S8 from Best buy.
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corporate store?
Yes.
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is there any reason to buy the sprint version instead of the unlocked phone? Once you activate the phone on sprint doesn't it just download all the bloatware?..
I had an order from Samsung but I'm about to cancel it since people who ordered after me are already getting their phone and I'm still in preorder status
Is anyone going to flash the sprint stock on their unlocked to get carrier functions? Do we need a special version of Odin like the s8+?
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Is anyone going to flash the sprint stock on their unlocked to get carrier functions? Do we need a special version of Odin like the s8+?
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what carrier functions are missing? I could be wrong but locked boot loader means no flashing?
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what carrier functions are missing? I could be wrong but locked boot loader means no flashing?
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We can flash stock software's just like the S8 and S8+ with odin...they are signed....to mix parts of the software they used a different version of Odin,
I was just seeing if anyone is going to try right away...
So i am in NYC and called /stopped by stores and none have the note 8 or sim cards for it.
Sprint is supposedly overnighting the cards to me. so I have a phone that can't active since no sim .
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We can flash stock software's just like the S8 and S8+ with odin...they are signed....to mix parts of the software they used a different version of Odin,
I was just seeing if anyone is going to try right away...
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I was genuinely curious I haven't been on android in 4 years and I'm coming back. I have sprint version ordered but like I said I'm about to cancel it... so I can order unlocked version and actually flash firmware later? as long as it's been officially signed?
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I was genuinely curious I haven't been on android in 4 years and I'm coming back. I have sprint version ordered but like I said I'm about to cancel it... so I can order unlocked version and actually flash firmware later? as long as it's been officially signed?
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That's what they have been doing with S8+...check out the S8+ forums and see if it something you want to try...
I had the same problem trying to use my s7e sim. Thanks to a user on reddit I found a solution. You need a new sim. The sim fro the s8 and s8+ will work for the Note 8. Here is the sim info.
SKU: CZ4114LWQ
UPC: 854798005125
Part: SIMOLW416Q
Model: ISIM V2
I had to go to 3 different corporate stores before I found one that carried it.
can someone be specific in any of the missing features or functionality of the unlocked phone when using on Sprint's network?..
my carrier phone order from 8/29 is still stuck in pre order. a big reason I had ordered carrier was to not get stuck waiting and because I assumed the unlocked phone would not operate as well as the carrier phone on sprints network. so, how does it work?
I've had unlocked phones on sprint before. The only big thing I've noticed that's missing is the sprint free wifi calling functionality (it doesn't work very well, so I never use it), and their wifi security app. Everything else is good.
I just ordered an unlocked note 8 (note 7 promotion). My reason for unlocked is I find they hold their resale much better then the carrier specific phones.
Unlocked version:
Hotspot - Awesome
Download Booster - Awesome
No Bloat - Awesome
Wi-Fi Calling - working awesomely
Sprint Version:
LTE Calling - I might miss, might be worth flashing Sprint mod when available...
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I've had unlocked phones on sprint before. The only big thing I've noticed that's missing is the sprint free wifi calling functionality (it doesn't work very well, so I never use it), and their wifi security app. Everything else is good.
I just ordered an unlocked note 8 (note 7 promotion). My reason for unlocked is I find they hold their resale much better then the carrier specific phones.
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WiFi calling there...and working
Wi-Fi Calling
So if I have Sprint variant is there an unlocked rom lurking around somewhere that I can install?
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brandoncheney05 said:
So if I have Sprint variant is there an unlocked rom lurking around somewhere that I can install?
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You can flash the unlocked firmware in the guide section using Prince Comsy's firmware...
so what's the real benefit to buying the unlocked version ? is the bootloader is still locked ?
This is pretty ridiculous. I get pulling the update on April 14th due to the boot looping. But.... its June 1st and still nothing. Like June Security is gonna be out and were still sitting on launch software or March if ur phone didn't brick. Any guesses as to what the hell the holdup is? My theory is they discovered that everyone's phone is a software time bomb and any updates they are testing causes them to spazz out. And for anyone who's gonna say blah blah its how updates go...... I'm just seeing what some other theories are and letting others voice their opinions.
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This is pretty ridiculous. I get pulling the update on April 14th due to the boot looping. But.... its June 1st and still nothing. Like June Security is gonna be out and were still sitting on launch software or March if ur phone didn't brick. Any guesses as to what the hell the holdup is? My theory is they discovered that everyone's phone is a software time bomb and any updates they are testing causes them to spazz out. And for anyone who's gonna say blah blah its how updates go...... I'm just seeing what some other theories are and letting others voice their opinions.
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I couldn't agree more. It's June 1st, and we still don't have an update.
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This is pretty ridiculous. I get pulling the update on April 14th due to the boot looping. But.... its June 1st and still nothing. Like June Security is gonna be out and were still sitting on launch software or March if ur phone didn't brick. Any guesses as to what the hell the holdup is? My theory is they discovered that everyone's phone is a software time bomb and any updates they are testing causes them to spazz out. And for anyone who's gonna say blah blah its how updates go...... I'm just seeing what some other theories are and letting others voice their opinions.
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Same still no update.. Anyone has an idea if we are getting an update in the coming days? For ***** sake my note 8 is already on the may patch and so is my brothers galaxy s8! Interesting theory though, maybe its true lol.
i have to say 2 months after an update that was pulled,and no new update is a pretty douchy thing on a just released top shelf phone,oh well history repeats itself,hopefully something soon for us
Couldn't agree more. Love T-Mobile's responses to questions.
"We know how important software updates are to customers. We want to make sure ur running the most up to date software." Big FAT Lie lol.
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i have to say 2 months after an update that was pulled,and no new update is a pretty douchy thing on a just released top shelf phone,oh well history repeats itself,hopefully something soon for us
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update it yourself...dl the update from sammobile
explain the sammobile way please
mongonexus said:
explain the sammobile way please
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Probably he means converting your tmobile phone (which u loose a few tmobile feature) to the unlock USA and then u can flash the newest samsung firmware.
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Probably he means converting your tmobile phone (which u loose a few tmobile feature) to the unlock USA and then u can flash the newest samsung firmware.
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What features?
Most likely wifi calling.
Possibly VoLTE.
Any carrier specific apps.
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Most likely wifi calling.
Possibly VoLTE.
Any carrier specific apps.
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Wi-Fi calling for T-Mobile works fine on the Unlocked S9+
Some of the carrier specific stuff downloads when the SIM registers to the T-Mobile network. But you can download the rest of the apps if you want them from the Play Store.
You don't have all the bloat unless you choose to install it.
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Wi-Fi calling for T-Mobile works fine on the Unlocked S9+
Some of the carrier specific stuff downloads when the SIM registers to the T-Mobile network. But you can download the rest of the apps if you want them from the Play Store.
You don't have all the bloat unless you choose to install it.
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Any downsides? Does SamsungPay still work? That's a big one for me.
Samsung Pay works fine. I have no downsides. Though I have never used a branded T-Mobile phone since I have been on T-Mobile, so maybe I don't know what I am missing, if anything.
There isn't that much difference. I personally wouldn't do it. There unlocked version hasn't gotten any updates either and is still sitting at Feb 1 security patches.
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There isn't that much difference. I personally wouldn't do it. There unlocked version hasn't gotten any updates either and is still sitting at Feb 1 security patches.
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Well that's no help then.
I'm on At&T, and any unlocked phone always disabled the carrier wifi calling and volte.
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Most likely wifi calling.
Possibly VoLTE.
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Oh, I couldn't care less about WiFi calling but VoLTE is a must. I though that was a standard feature. Bummer...
So stupid. I contacted support and they said they had no timeline of any future updates. Canada got theirs today...
Seems that all the S8 line has been updated on tmobile with may if im not mistaken. What do you bet we get an update tomorrow for April lmao. But really this is really really strange.
My wife's s8 active got the may update tonight. This just seems back asswards that the newest is the last on the list.
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Can anyone enlighten me as regards to why Verizon have not updated this device?
Wish I could. Sprint is still on the February security update. Samsung just released the May update.
Yup, been on February since I got the phone. I have a Verizon model S9+. My wife's Verizon Note 8 is already on the May security patch.
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Can anyone enlighten me as regards to why Verizon have not updated this device?
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This is very typical for Verizon and Samsung. We will be lucky to get the may patch before August or September. If we get it all.
Would be nice if the next update was to 8.1 though! Or even P. Im content with the device for now. I am not overly concerned about the security pathc.
AT&T S9+ variant here....
Also still on February patch. My wife has the Note 8 on AT&T, on the May patch.
Sprint has, in the past, been pretty good with security patches, running about 30 - 40 days behind Google. But it seems all the carriers have dropped the ball on this phone. Wonder what the issue is.
I just came over from an S8+ on Xfinity that was patched twice in one month.. kinda surprised this one is behind considering it's the new flagship phone...
Thank all of you for your input!
They had an issue around April update which caused a bootloop. It's not Verizon, or the carriers that are holding this one up but Samsung making sure it works. I update from sammobile now anyways. I know it's not what you want to hear but I understand why they would want to hold it. We would be crushing Samsung and the carrier if they released an update that caused a bootloop.
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They had an issue around April update which caused a bootloop. It's not Verizon, or the carriers that are holding this one up but Samsung making sure it works. I update from sammobile now anyways. I know it's not what you want to hear but I understand why they would want to hold it. We would be crushing Samsung and the carrier if they released an update that caused a bootloop.
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Which one for Verizon on sammobile?
I finally got the May security patch today
@krypto1300 Which carrier and what build number please?
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@krypto1300 Which carrier and what build number please?
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Verizon
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Verizon
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Sorry 1 more? Did you manually upgrade or was it ota? Thanks
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Sorry 1 more? Did you manually upgrade or was it ota? Thanks
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OTA
It was just waiting for me when I pulled the phone of the charger this morning
Well, the unlocked Snapdragon version is still on Feb. patch, so Verizon is actually ahead of that game...
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Well, the unlocked Snapdragon version is still on Feb. patch, so Verizon is actually ahead of that game...
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My Verizon S6's always got the security patches pretty timely and my Wife's Note 8 has been getting them like clockwork as well.
Well, I have to eat my words. I just got the May Security Patch update on my Verizon S9+
Thats pretty good!
I just got the new security patch. Does anyone know what they add besides security?
I just got the new security patch. Does anyone know what they add besides security?
I'm really starting to get annoyed. I was expecting a beta as the samsung support members claimed there would be a beta for the canadian (w) variant IN DECEMBER. And when you ask Samsung support, they just say soon. However in many countries in Europe already have the OFFICAL pie update. Samsung seriously? Super frustrated, and I feel like samsung really doesn't care about it's canadian users. I'm still on a November 2018 Security Patch. I've checked samsung members and have also tried it on members+, but still nothing. Just a little rant/experience i'd share with you all.
Got it here today in the UK. We typically get everything last when it comes to Samsung. And Huawei.
I just got it yesterday through the smart switch program (window). But then had problems. My phone would not boot up, and was going in recovery mode all the time. I had to erace the data configuration to be able to use my phone. Then it when in safe mode so I could back up my data, then I had to factory reset my phone. Kinda suck but now I have the pie update.
When I text my husband Chris , I get delivery report says Chris. Delivered. Ok then I'll get a delivery report for some text that I didnt send and it also has my name on it Mary . Like I sent myself text. Immediately after that I get a text from my husband. I've sent 2 pics both are my phone ,Mary
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HellDiverUK said:
Got it here today in the UK. We typically get everything last when it comes to Samsung. And Huawei.
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I just got it yesterday through the smart switch program (window). But then had problems. My phone would not boot up, and was going in recovery mode all the time. I had to erace the data configuration to be able to use my phone. Then it when in safe mode so I could back up my data, then I had to factory reset my phone. Kinda suck but now I have the pie update.
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When I text my husband Chris , I get delivery report says Chris. Delivered. Ok then I'll get a delivery report for some text that I didnt send and it also has my name on it Mary . Like I sent myself text. Immediately after that I get a text from my husband. I've sent 2 pics both are my phone ,Mary
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Exactly. Samsung takes the longest for updates yet comes with so many bugs. Point proven. And for the people who got it, was it a Canadian variant?
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Exactly. Samsung takes the longest for updates yet comes with so long. Point proven. And for the people who got it, was it a Canadian variant?
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I have the international version! That's why I got it! But I order it from amazon from there official page.
UPDATE: I just checked Samsung Members and they're confirming a Feb 2019 release date. Guess I have to wait another like month