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I have a rooted ATT M8 running the stock ROM. They recently released new firmware and my phone wants me to install. I can tell when they release one because I get a notice saying that "google services are running in the background."
I do NOT want the new firmware, but I can find no way to turn off the update service and it's causing my phone to reboot. I assume that installing this update will break my root. Anybody got any solutions?
I've been wrestling with this the last 2 nights as well. I also didn't want the firmware update. I also had the google services annoying me.
Here's my advice:
1. Take the firmware update
2. Reboot
3. Update SuperSU immediately (use the app itself, it will boot into TWRP and update as necessary, if you don't follow this step, your root WILL be broken, and your phone will likely get locked into a ~3minute reboot cycle).
You shouldn't be affected beyond this point, unless you're like me and your phone automatically reinstalls all the AT&T bloatware on every reboot.
Install Titanium backup and kill the update service. I think it is "Software Updates"
Then you won't have this problem. At least I don't.
lostangelintx said:
Install Titanium backup and kill the update service. I think it is "Software Updates"
Then you won't have this problem. At least I don't.
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I use titanium backup and have looked for the service but the only one I see is called updater. And from what I can tell that's not the right one.
Hmm I haven't gotten any updates
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Alaris said:
Hmm I haven't gotten any updates
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1.54 was the software version at release (April), then the started rolling out 1.58 in May. I haven't heard of any other updates rolling out yet, although an update to 4.4.3 or 4.4.4 is supposedly upcoming.
What version is your phone currently?
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jbwitt said:
I use titanium backup and have looked for the service but the only one I see is called updater. And from what I can tell that's not the right one.
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Try what is stated in Post #7 here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2752718
You can just "freeze" (instead of uninstall) the service if you're afraid of breaking anything.
Never mind. The poster above me answered it for you.
Ok I froze HTC dm. We will see what happens. I am running 4.4.2. Thanks everybody.
jbwitt said:
Thanks everybody.
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There's a button for that.
redpoint73 said:
There's a button for that.
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Mind telling me where? Nowhere do I see a thanks button. I'm not a forum expert, obviously.
Also, none of the above suggestions worked. Today, when I got home, the phone rebooted again. I believe getting on my wifi is what triggered it (like it was trying to download the new firmware again). I also tried accepting the update but that didn't solve it either. All it did was reboot the phone again when told it to install...and I'm still at 4.4.2.
EDIT: Err, never mind. I reloaded the page and the thanks buttons showed up.
jbwitt said:
none of the above suggestions worked. Today, when I got home, the phone rebooted again. I believe getting on my wifi is what triggered it (like it was trying to download the new firmware again). I also tried accepting the update but that didn't solve it either. All it did was reboot the phone again when told it to install...and I'm still at 4.4.2.
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Interesting, it seemed to work for others. Try freezing updater, FOTA, and/or HTCdrm.
Freeze these
Updater.apk
HtcOMADM_SettingsPlugin_ATT.apk
HtcOMADM_ATT.apk
So I have a rooted One M8 with TWRP recovery running 4.4.2. Recently an update came through for 4.4.3, to get rid of the notification I froze the updater. Now for the purpose of getting Viper One, I need 4.4.3. But when I press software updates it says 'There are no software updates avalible for your phone'. But there was prior to freezing the updater. Help me :silly:
(PS. Apologies if this thread is poorly located)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=51623014&postcount=7
es0tericcha0s said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=51623014&postcount=7
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Hey thanks for the reply but I don't think my problem is that complicated, is there anything you could recommend? The option to update was available until I froze the updater, now it's not.
:good:
Can anyone help?
I gave you a direct link from the rom you are trying to install that tells you what needs to be done. Not sure what else you would need. If you aren't getting prompts to update via OTA, there's 2 ways to update the firmware needed. Either via the official RUU for your phone and carrier (which probably isn't even available yet)or via a firmware package that's flashable via fastboot but you must be S-Off. Sometimes you can force the phone to check for updates by clearing the Google Services Framework, but this is not advised as it can have unintended consequences with how Google sees the phone and sends notifications and such. Plus just because there IS an available update does not mean you're next in line. Many carriers have staged roll outs and it'll get there when it gets there.
If it's too difficult for you then you either shouldn't be messing with custom roms or seek help from a qualified shop.
es0tericcha0s said:
I gave you a direct link from the rom you are trying to install that tells you what needs to be done. Not sure what else you would need. If you aren't getting prompts to update via OTA, there's 2 ways to update the firmware needed. Either via the official RUU for your phone and carrier (which probably isn't even available yet)or via a firmware package that's flashable via fastboot but you must be S-Off. Sometimes you can force the phone to check for updates by clearing the Google Services Framework, but this is not advised as it can have unintended consequences with how Google sees the phone and sends notifications and such. Plus just because there IS an available update does not mean you're next in line. Many carriers have staged roll outs and it'll get there when it gets there.
If it's too difficult for you then you either shouldn't be messing with custom roms or seek help from a qualified shop.
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Thank you, the problem did however solve it's self. It turns out OTA updates are queued and by freezing the app I had reset my position. The update is now available.
I'm going to flash a stock recovery and update the firmware.
I just downloaded a OTA update on my S4, which I hoped was 4.4.4, but it looks like it is still Android 4.4.2. During the update, it says it was also updating KNOX, does anyone know what this update is, I was hoping it was the 4.4.4 upgrade. It did update KNOX to 2.0, so hopefully I can move my work stuff into KNOX now, and not have my basic phone subject to my work's locking policy.
The build number is KOT49H.I545VRUFNG6.
reckert said:
I just downloaded a OTA update on my S4, which I hoped was 4.4.4, but it looks like it is still Android 4.4.2. During the update, it says it was also updating KNOX, does anyone know what this update is, I was hoping it was the 4.4.4 upgrade. It did update KNOX to 2.0, so hopefully I can move my work stuff into KNOX now, and not have my basic phone subject to my work's locking policy.
The build number is KOT49H.I545VRUFNG6.
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It's just small bug fixes for bluetooth connectivity and updates for KNOX 2.0.
Oh noze! Search is borken again.
How do you stop the ota updates
siouxhockey11 said:
How do you stop the ota updates
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Download Titanium Backup and try to freeze SDM, you might have to purchase Titanium Backup Pro to freeze apps.
When it asks just click , No Thanks.. Update won't show again till you manually look for an update in settings.
I see the method for rooting the G6 involves the roll back to G5 and flashing G6. I've already towel rooted G5, will accepting the G6 OTA remove root for me because of the knox update? IOW if I want the LAG, is it better to flash G6 via odin, or can I just accept the OTA?
Thanks for your time!
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I see the method for rooting the G6 involves the roll back to G5 and flashing G6. I've already towel rooted G5, will accepting the G6 OTA remove root for me because of the knox update? IOW if I want the LAG, is it better to flash G6 via odin, or can I just accept the OTA?
Thanks for your time!
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You will lose root if you flash NG6 on Odin or Accept the OTA update. The only way to keep root is to follow that flash back method if you want the update and keep root. My advice is not to updated at all. The NG6 update has issues with random reboots.
Fadtydawg said:
You will lose root if you flash NG6 on Odin or Accept the OTA update. The only way to keep root is to follow that flash back method if you want the update and keep root. My advice is not to updated at all. The NG6 update has issues with random reboots.
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I would also advise not taking the NG6 update. I did and I went back to NC5. The random reboots seem to be unfixable and there really wasn't anything new and exciting with NG6, unless you need Knox 2.0 for some crazy reason! STAY WITH NC5!!!
michaely123 said:
Download Titanium Backup and try to freeze SDM, you might have to purchase Titanium Backup Pro to freeze apps.
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I disabled SDM with 'No Bloat". Annoying notification for update is gone.
wulto said:
I disabled SDM with 'No Bloat". Annoying notification for update is gone.
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Will this work for non-rooted phones?
dwmartin6341 said:
Will this work for non-rooted phones?
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No u need a rooted phone.
Fadtydawg said:
When it asks just click , No Thanks.. Update won't show again till you manually look for an update in settings.
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Say what? Mine is prompting me to install the update. It only gives me 2 choices "Install now" and "Install later", and if I choose later, it prompts me to pick a time for it to install. There is also a checkbox that says "Install automatically", which I am leaving unchecked. So, I think it's going to prompt me every day from now on, unless I root and then freeze something.
stuartv said:
Say what? Mine is prompting me to install the update. It only gives me 2 choices "Install now" and "Install later", and if I choose later, it prompts me to pick a time for it to install. There is also a checkbox that says "Install automatically", which I am leaving unchecked. So, I think it's going to prompt me every day from now on, unless I root and then freeze something.
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It will just keep bugging you with the prompt everyday unless you root and freeze the apps.
With my wife's phone I went in to settings, application manager scrolled over to all & found SDM app & forced stopped it. Notification is now gone.
She IS NOT rooted.
I also have it auto hibernate using greenify so it does not come back.
Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk 2
So is this update buggy for those who were unrooted? Or just for those who were rooted and took the update?
I wonder if we were to unroot, take the update, then follow the root instructions if many of the problems go away?
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My wife's S4 is totally stock and she's had zero problems with the update. Took it earlier today.
After playing around with the update for a while, it looks like we have finally lost write access to the SD card like we were supposed to since the first Kit Kat update. I cannot write to the SD card (unrooted) with any file explorer, and my SMS backup app fails at writing to the SD card.
Zelmo88 said:
I would also advise not taking the NG6 update. I did and I went back to NC5. The random reboots seem to be unfixable and there really wasn't anything new and exciting with NG6, unless you need Knox 2.0 for some crazy reason! STAY WITH NC5!!!
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I read your post..updated for the heck of it..FDR'd it...random rebooted after a a few minutes.
Its been 2 days so far, and the thing reboots 3-4 times a day.
I noticed that sometimes before it reboots, I'll unlock it, and it wont even register my security swipe..Then it reboots..Sometimes, if it does let me in, tapping on an icon does nothing...then it reboots...Other times, like this morning, it was just sitting on the end table, and it rebooted. Boy, you weren't kidding about the reboots.
BTW..All stock.
Here's what I did, worked.
I used the towel root method posted here (and other places I'm sure):
Ok...Forum won't let me post a link because I'm new. So Google "Root Verizon Galaxy S4 SCH-I545 on I545VRUFNG6 Firmware" and it will be the top choice from droid views.
Read the comments section too I posted the issue I was having then reinstalled super SU, flashed the NG6 Kernal and I've been good to go.
Hope it works out for you, I'm on NG6 with root, no errors, no reboots.
Hi,
I bought a Nexus 5 on amazon, and when it came in, it went through the setup process as if it were a brand new phone. However, as soon as it got to the home page, i noticed that SuperSU was installed, and it was in the app drawer. I did not want a rooted phone, so i installed root checker to see if the phone was rooted. Root checker said it was not rooted, so i thought i was safe to uninstall superSU. But when I launch superSU, it gives me a popup that says that there is no supersu binary installed or something, and i can't access the app further than that. Is there any way to uninstall it otherwise? I also went to the play store to uninstall it but it just says that it will uninstall all updates. Also, if i install marshmallow, will that fix the problem? i heard that the OTA update for M will remove root, supersu, etc.
thanks
EvilLemon said:
Hi,
I bought a Nexus 5 on amazon, and when it came in, it went through the setup process as if it were a brand new phone. However, as soon as it got to the home page, i noticed that SuperSU was installed, and it was in the app drawer. I did not want a rooted phone, so i installed root checker to see if the phone was rooted. Root checker said it was not rooted, so i thought i was safe to uninstall superSU. But when I launch superSU, it gives me a popup that says that there is no supersu binary installed or something, and i can't access the app further than that. Is there any way to uninstall it otherwise? I also went to the play store to uninstall it but it just says that it will uninstall all updates. Also, if i install marshmallow, will that fix the problem? i heard that the OTA update for M will remove root, supersu, etc.
thanks
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did you try settings>apps>
is superSu listed in under downloaded tab?
sd_shadow said:
did you try settings>apps>
is superSu listed in under downloaded tab?
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yes, it is listed there, and when i click on it, it gives me options to force stop it, uninstall updates, or disable it. But i heard that if i try to install OTA updates on the phone, it will stop halfway cause the updates now check for stuff like supersu
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yes, it is listed there, and when i click on it, it gives me options to force stop it, uninstall updates, or disable it.
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If there is no option to uninstall, it is on the system partition, you will need to root to remove it, or better reinstall stock firmware.
the devices was rooted at some time and it was not unrooted correctly, I would not allow the device to update ota, because you just do not know if stock rom is complete.
But i heard that if i try to install OTA updates on the phone, it will stop halfway cause the updates now check for stuff like supersu
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yes, that is possible.
see the nexus 5 forum http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5
at look for how to restore stock rom
sd_shadow said:
If there is no option to uninstall, it is on the system partition, you will need to root to remove it, or better reinstall stock firmware.
the devices was rooted at some time and it was not unrooted correctly, I would not allow the device to update ota, because you just do not know if stock rom is complete.
yes, that is possible.
see the nexus 5 forum http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5
at look for how to restore stock rom
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I have decided to give back the phone, I really don't want that kinda risky device on me for the next 2 years... however, will i be able to factory reset it before i send it back? or will the phone mess up? (when i initially got the phone, i THINK it was factory reset because i had to go through the default android setup process) i just don't want the next owner to gain any of my information or anything even if i delete everything i have on it so far and disconnect my google account
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I have decided to give back the phone, I really don't want that kinda risky device on me for the next 2 years...
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Yes, that is probably safest option
however, will i be able to factory reset it before i send it back? or will the phone mess up? (when i initially got the phone, i THINK it was factory reset because i had to go through the default android setup process) i just don't want the next owner to gain any of my information or anything even if i delete everything i have on it so far and disconnect my google account
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factory reset should be safe.
flashing firmware, is what the seller should have done, before shipping
has anyone lost root updating to current this month? i know my v10 became an ad filled, stock navbar, paper weight after it's last forced update.
I'm curious about this as well.
I finally got around to rooting my Stylo 3 Plus for the first time over the weekend, after closely following the developments in this forum for the past 6 months. It took a lot of trial and error and reflashing of TWRP before I got the timing down right, but I finally got it rooted (using Magisk 15.2).
And of course, luck would have it that within a few hours of my rooting success, a new system update notification (which I had never heard of until now!), pops up and asks me to restart to install it. I am using Titanium Backup to force stop the particular Google service involved, which makes the notification go away and I can reboot without it upgrading. But it always come back within 24 hours or so.
Has anyone installed this update yet (MP45010f) and successfully re-rooted? I'm currently using Magisk 15.2 with systemless hosts, Ad-Away, and Xposed with Greenify & MinMinGuard enabled. I would welcome any advice on how to proceed after the update to restore root and continue using Ad-Away, Xposed, etc. Or even how to disable the update notification for good so I can stay on MP45010e a while longer.
eliaslear said:
has anyone lost root updating to current this month?
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I Installed the 10f update.
On the download page the date was listed as March something.
While updating with LG Bridge, it was listed as Feb 22.
After it was installed (update 10f for LGMP450) the security patch date was listed as Feb 01.
I rooted and installed TWRP (and removed RCTD). Everything seems fine.
I am reverting back to my old install. Because i have made a million little tweaks, that would take forever to redo on a new install. I just wanted to see if everything still works (and it appears it does).
PS - The first time i updated this phone (back around Oct2017) the LG Bridge erased my SD storage. This time it left all of my installed apps in place. Also, this appears to simply be a google security update. No firmware changes from LG.
I thought a system update wouldn't happen if youv done rooted your phone the only way back on the day was to reflash stock ROM to get the update
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I thought a system update wouldn't happen if youv done rooted your phone the only way back on the day was to reflash stock ROM to get the update
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yeah thats what i did was revert back to stock so u can update then i update it then re rooted my phone
if you update using the LG Bridge computer program, it will update a rooted phone. but you will need to reroot afterward.
joetbd said:
I Installed the 10f update.
On the download page the date was listed as March something.
While updating with LG Bridge, it was listed as Feb 22.
After it was installed (update 10f for LGMP450) the security patch date was listed as Feb 01.
I rooted and installed TWRP (and removed RCTD). Everything seems fine.
I am reverting back to my old install. Because i have made a million little tweaks, that would take forever to redo on a new install. I just wanted to see if everything still works (and it appears it does).
PS - The first time i updated this phone (back around Oct2017) the LG Bridge erased my SD storage. This time it left all of my installed apps in place. Also, this appears to simply be a google security update. No firmware changes from LG.
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Thanks for testing this out. If you don't mind me asking, which method do you use to root? And do you also use Xposed?
To anyone else who might know, does everything Magisk- or Xposed-related get removed by the security updates (frameworks, modules, configs, etc)? Just trying to get an idea how many of my modules I should expect to reinstall and configure from scratch if I decide to update from 10e to 10f.
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Esin8785 said:
I thought a system update wouldn't happen if youv done rooted your phone the only way back on the day was to reflash stock ROM to get the update
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Yeah, I thought this was kind of weird too. I've never used LG Bridge to update. The notification just appeared on my phone shortly after rooting.
Is Xposed only for Magisk or can it be used on the rom, if so can I get a link to how to do so
LG Bridge
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root?
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Im using Magisk 16.1 (no Xposed) and TWRP 3.2.1
I have not run into any issues.
It appears to simply be a security patch update.
I doubt it should cause any new headaches.
The original method still works to reroot and reinstall TWRP.
Using the LG Bridge program is about as easy as an update can be. You install it on your computer, plug your phone into the computer, and click "update" on the computer program. Its all automatic.