Any better ROM option for privacy than LOS without GAPPS? - Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers

I usually run LOS without GAPPS to have as little Google in my life as possible. LOS because it has active development, seems like a professional operation, gets security updates every months and supports many devices, and it seems the majority of other ROMS are based on LOS.
But there are so many other ROMs available for F1 so I'm wondering if there are any other serious ROMs for F1 that aren''t based on LOS that have been degoogled, are good for privacy, and have stable support.

Maybe in future some dev might port Sailfish OS. That's the most privacy friendly mobile OS.
For now Lineage 16.0 without Gapps is number one.

ubuntu touch is grt ...linux based community support

/e/, but I don't know whether Poco is supported. See the e.foundation website for further details.

guhvanoh said:
/e/, but I don't know whether Poco is supported. See the e.foundation website for further details.
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supported oreo
i m afraid to flash that coz mi anti-rollback feature

I'm almost sure the anti rollback feature is disabled on our beloved poco but you can still check on with fastboot according to a reddit thread I cannot link for some reason.

SerpentSpirale said:
I'm almost sure the anti rollback feature is disabled on our beloved poco but you can still check on with fastboot according to a reddit thread I cannot link for some reason.
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ya! i checked it.score 1,means no anti- rollback
type fastboot getvar anti
if it show no 1-3 then no anti rollback enable
above 3 means rollback enable for pie
above 4 means rollback enable for Q beta

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Custom ROM development...

Realme 1 will be popular among developers for sure.XDA acknowledged it by opening a page for our device even before its sale has started.So all that is good.
Now coming to the problems,
We all know that mediatek is infamous for not releasing kernel sources.That makes it difficult for the developers to build custom ROMs.
On a more positive note since the realme one is based on 8.1 Oreo,I am guessing that its project treble compatible(somebody please confirm this) which makes the custom ROM development easier.
So the final question,
Will we get fully working custom ROMs of future android versions even if oppo and mediatek does not release kernel sources?Will project treble help in doing that??
You most probably will not. Snapdragon phones have better development, for example, the Redmi 4A did not have kernel source till recently, yet we had bugless Nougat ROMs, and now with source we have Oreo. It all depends on developer support, Oppo is not a brand that interests developers, on top of that it is a Mediatek phone, your custom ROM dreams may well be shattered. A few ported ROMs may be made if any developer decides to make it but will most likely be too buggy.
SouradeepB said:
You most probably will not. Snapdragon phones have better development, for example, the Redmi 4A did not have kernel source till recently, yet we had bugless Nougat ROMs, and now with source we have Oreo. It all depends on developer support, Oppo is not a brand that interests developers, on top of that it is a Mediatek phone, your custom ROM dreams may well be shattered. A few ported ROMs may be made if any developer decides to make it but will most likely be too buggy.
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True.But oppo has never released a phone like this.
This phone has the same chipset(helio p60) of oppo f7 which is two times more costly than the realme 1.Therefore it offers immense value for money.And this will attract a lot of customers.Normally when a device has a huge customer base and if it is a value for money device, developers usually become interested in those devices.
Also I know know that both mediatek and oppo have violated GPL many times by not releasing the sources.But since this device is treble compatible,it should solve that problem to a certain extent right?
I am open to discussion...
gauthamkithu said:
Realme 1 will be popular among developers for sure.XDA acknowledged it by opening a page for our device even before its sale has started.So all that is good.
Now coming to the problems,
We all know that mediatek is infamous for not releasing kernel sources.That makes it difficult for the developers to build custom ROMs.
On a more positive note since the realme one is based on 8.1 Oreo,I am guessing that its project treble compatible(somebody please confirm this) which makes the custom ROM development easier.
So the final question,
Will we get fully working custom ROMs of future android versions even if oppo and mediatek does not release kernel sources?Will project treble help in doing that??
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Yes it will help, as project treble is a initiative by Google to help developers create custom roms without approaching Vendor(Oppo) or the Manufacturer(Mediatek).
gauthamkithu said:
Realme 1 will be popular among developers for sure.XDA acknowledged it by opening a page for our device even before its sale has started.So all that is good.
Now coming to the problems,
We all know that mediatek is infamous for not releasing kernel sources.That makes it difficult for the developers to build custom ROMs.
On a more positive note since the realme one is based on 8.1 Oreo,I am guessing that its project treble compatible(somebody please confirm this) which makes the custom ROM development easier.
So the final question,
Will we get fully working custom ROMs of future android versions even if oppo and mediatek does not release kernel sources?Will project treble help in doing that??
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Their response shown below,
We understand that you want to give root access to the device and we apologize for the inconvenience caused.
As per the policy, it is not suggestible to root the device. However, if you want to root the device, you can root it using any third party boot-loader on your risk. We won't be able to assist you with any information regarding the rooting of device.
nisanthu said:
Their response shown below,
We understand that you want to give root access to the device and we apologize for the inconvenience caused.
As per the policy, it is not suggestible to root the device. However, if you want to root the device, you can root it using any third party boot-loader on your risk. We won't be able to assist you with any information regarding the rooting of device.
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I don't need root access, but there are issues with Color OS 5.
Like:
1. New notification pop appear for 3-4 seconds and you cannot swipe and close them, you need to wait to automatically close them, hampering your work. In other OS you can simply swipe left/right/both to close popup.
2. If you enable development option, then yellow notification will show constantly to close it, until you close mode. Why can't I use function like mock location, etc.
3. If you use app which use accessibility services (like Greenify) then it will constantly show notifcation bar sign to close, it means you cannot use Developer Mode or Accessibility Services Apps.
Hope Oppo will fixes these issues with Color OS in future updates.
""1. New notification pop appear for 3-4 seconds and you cannot swipe and close them, you need to wait to automatically close them, hampering your work. In other OS you can simply swipe left/right/both to close popup.""
HERE IS SOLUTION FOR YOU> SWIPE UP to CLOSE
Ayyshjaju said:
I don't need root access, but there are issues with Color OS 5.
Like:
1. New notification pop appear for 3-4 seconds and you cannot swipe and close them, you need to wait to automatically close them, hampering your work. In other OS you can simply swipe left/right/both to close popup.
2. If you enable development option, then yellow notification will show constantly to close it, until you close mode. Why can't I use function like mock location, etc.
3. If you use app which use accessibility services (like Greenify) then it will constantly show notifcation bar sign to close, it means you cannot use Developer Mode or Accessibility Services Apps.
Hope Oppo will fixes these issues with Color OS in future updates.
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gauthamkithu said:
Realme 1 will be popular among developers for sure.XDA acknowledged it by opening a page for our device even before its sale has started.So all that is good.
Now coming to the problems,
We all know that mediatek is infamous for not releasing kernel sources.That makes it difficult for the developers to build custom ROMs.
On a more positive note since the realme one is based on 8.1 Oreo,I am guessing that its project treble compatible(somebody please confirm this) which makes the custom ROM development easier.
So the final question,
Will we get fully working custom ROMs of future android versions even if oppo and mediatek does not release kernel sources?Will project treble help in doing that??
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It confirmed via email. The reply is given below:
"Thank you for writing to RealMe Customer Service regarding Project Treble inquiry.
We are delighted to inform you that your RealMe 1 device supports Project Treble. It is already enabled in your device."
But after some researchs i realised that even if it could support project treble, we still can't flash GSI rom with a locked bootloader. (Correct me if it is a wrong findings)
best customm rom
which is the best custom rom available for realme 1 ?
mygadgetreviewer said:
which is the best custom rom available for realme 1 ?
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rightnow none..
root is not possible yet..
Any chances of custom roms that may pop up for realme 1
I am buying a new phone soon. I would like to know if realme 1 will get a custom rom? Please reply quick. Also when do you think the custom rom will be available?
custom rom
kindly worked custom rom,how can flash twrp?
Firmware
gauthamkithu said:
Realme 1 will be popular among developers for sure.XDA acknowledged it by opening a page for our device even before its sale has started.So all that is good.
Now coming to the problems,
We all know that mediatek is infamous for not releasing kernel sources.That makes it difficult for the developers to build custom ROMs.
On a more positive note since the realme one is based on 8.1 Oreo,I am guessing that its project treble compatible(somebody please confirm this) which makes the custom ROM development easier.
So the final question,
Will we get fully working custom ROMs of future android versions even if oppo and mediatek does not release kernel sources?Will project treble help in doing that??
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Is realme 4gb version firmware available? Please provide the link of stock firmware.
Any update on bootloader unlock and rooting..?
Realme 1 support project terbel
:good:
gauthamkithu said:
Realme 1 will be popular among developers for sure.XDA acknowledged it by opening a page for our device even before its sale has started.So all that is good.
Now coming to the problems,
We all know that mediatek is infamous for not releasing kernel sources.That makes it difficult for the developers to build custom ROMs.
On a more positive note since the realme one is based on 8.1 Oreo,I am guessing that its project treble compatible(somebody please confirm this) which makes the custom ROM development easier.
So the final question,
Will we get fully working custom ROMs of future android versions even if oppo and mediatek does not release kernel sources?Will project treble help in doing that??
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The realme 1 support project terbel I used the to check and it's shows that it support
confirmed the realme 1 and 2pro are getting bootloader unlock
Confirmed by realme CEO madhav Seth realme 1 and 2pro are getting bootloader unlock and kernel source code confirmed on twitter by him
Sailfish os
I want sailfish os for our realme device
Bootloader unlocked finally
Realme 1 has got bootloader unloccked when can we expect to get custom rom now
Imrans123 said:
Realme 1 has got bootloader unloccked when can we expect to get custom rom now
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You need to wait for kernel sources to get released so devs can work on custom roms. If we get a TWRP recovery, you can try out the A/B GSI roms which are good but slightly buggy. If you want a bugfree rom, you need to wait a while, maybe a month or so.
Thanks bro when can we expect releases of kernel source another quarter

Andeoid pie?

Will we get android pie roms?
i am really interested in the pixel experience.
I was a mtk user and a porter ...can i port other pie rom like xiaomi note 4's with same kernel version ?
i am new so treat me like a noob:good:
mona356 said:
Will we get android pie roms?
i am really interested in the pixel experience.
I was a mtk user and a porter ...can i port other pie rom like xiaomi note 4's with same kernel version ?
i am new so treat me like a noob:good:
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I'm very sad to see R5+ development is currently dead. I was hoping someone would build a Pixel Experience or any AOSP based ROM for our device but even the oreo roms are dead or finalized already. So i don't think people have anymore interest in R5+..
bdogan1912 said:
I'm very sad to see R5+ development is currently dead. I was hoping someone would build a Pixel Experience or any AOSP based ROM for our device but even the oreo roms are dead or finalized already. So i don't think people have anymore interest in R5+..
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The real problem is lack of updated Oreo kernel sources (how much less Pie). This means, for example, that certain display panels (eg, ebbg) cannot be supported by custom ROMs (you might have to go back to Nougat kernels for that).
Why not write to Xiaomi to release up-to-date Oreo kernel sources for vince in the first instance? If enough people make a fuss, perhaps something will happen ...
DarthJabba9 said:
The real problem is lack of updated Oreo kernel sources (how much less Pie). This means, for example, that certain display panels (eg, ebbg) cannot be supported by custom ROMs (you might have to go back to Nougat kernels for that).
Why not write to Xiaomi to release up-to-date Oreo kernel sources for vince in the first instance? If enough people make a fuss, perhaps something will happen ...
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Xiaomi however isn't listening their customers. A big example is ARB system which absolutely destroys devices. So i guess we are gonna stay dead until something shows up..

how many builds of Android Pie are out for the OPX?

How many builds of pir are there? can't any of them be installed permanently or are they all still alpha that will need reinstalled after official launch? i want to upgrade from the original OPX android to to pie for daily use. i also want magisks if that's not all supper outdated now too.
LOS 16 is really stable IMO and the dev announced it xill be the one supported in top priority.
There is no evidence that there will be "official" custom Rom on pie for OPX.
so the custom pie roms will not get updates from google?
cdoublejj said:
so the custom pie roms will not get updates from google?
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?? I don't understand your question.
Google doesn't do anything about custom roms.
There is just one dev that worked on some custom roms on Pie (Pixel experience, AOSP and LOS). He just tond that he will put the priority on the LOS one. Note that it's marked as LOS 16 unofficial as he builds it itself, not in the LOS offcial roaster.
Onyx won't even be in the 15.1 roaster as it has just been ejected from official 14.1 roaster.
Kéno40 said:
?? I don't understand your question.
Google doesn't do anything about custom roms.
There is just one dev that worked on some custom roms on Pie (Pixel experience, AOSP and LOS). He just tond that he will put the priority on the LOS one. Note that it's marked as LOS 16 unofficial as he builds it itself, not in the LOS offcial roaster.
Onyx won't even be in the 15.1 roaster as it has just been ejected from official 14.1 roaster.
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when Debian gets updates so does ubuntu and kubuntu and lubuntu and xubuntu. custom rom or not it IS still google android pie, so when vulnerability is found a update is pushed out for pie and all pie devices get said fix. unless phones don't work this way which would suck and mean it's un secure the custom rom dev gets boared or no longer has time.
cdoublejj said:
when Debian gets updates so does ubuntu and kubuntu and lubuntu and xubuntu. custom rom or not it IS still google android pie, so when vulnerability is found a update is pushed out for pie and all pie devices get said fix. unless phones don't work this way which would suck and mean it's un secure the custom rom dev gets boared or no longer has time.
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You are confused, android builds are device specific, every patch needs to be integrated and compiled by the developer or mantainer of the rom you're using and can't be used in any other phone. Google releasses a new version of android and it's up to developers to create drivers and kernel "stuff" that allows the software to funcion in the device.
marcoccio said:
You are confused, android builds are device specific, every patch needs to be integrated and compiled by the developer or mantainer of the rom you're using and can't be used in any other phone. Google releasses a new version of android and it's up to developers to create drivers and kernel "stuff" that allows the software to funcion in the device.
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AH-HA!!!! This makes sense!

Question Good phone for custom ROMs?

Hey guys I am seriously considering buying the Note 10 (mojito) and I would like to know your opinions on custom ROMs for it. The Note 10 ticks all the boxes for me, but I worry that phones like the Note 10 PRO and PRO MAX will take most of the attention of Devs and therefore custom ROM development in mojito will not receive much attention. Do you think this is a valid worry?
I want my next phone to run deGoogled ROMs (like LOS), is mojito going to be a good choice for this?
Right now in my country its price is very good, while the PRO/MAX variants haven't arrived yet. It will be some time before they do, and even more before their price drops. So mojito is a very strong contender for me.
To clarify, I am not complaining there isn't a deGoogled custom ROM yet, only asking if you guys think it will get them.
I already use a custom ROM without Google, dotOS 5.0.1.
Installation of the Vanilla Version (without Google Services/Apps) via PE/AOSP or Lineage Recovery and ADB sideload.
Here are the instructions:
Install PixelExperience on mojito - PixelExperience Wiki
Install PixelExperience on mojito - PixelExperience Wiki
wiki.pixelexperience.org
Just take dotOS ROM from here (instead of Pixel Experience ROM).
Afterwards the APKs for microG:
Download - microG Project
Activate all checkboxes in microG settings, reboot and disable battery optimization for all components.
F-Droid and Aurora Store working, from there you can get the MozillaNLPbackend and NomatimNLPbackend and Deja Vu for location services without using Google.
There is no need to worry. It's will claim a lot of development. the most reason was to not see a lot and lazy at the beginning is on our Device (mojito/sunny) we don't have Recovery partition! which let our development slow but we have a good stuff of developers that's works hard and got us on the road as you see the roms are coming till now we got 6 roms and 3 recoveries and Orangefox soon.
UniNick said:
I already use a custom ROM without Google, dotOS 5.0.1.
Installation of the Vanilla Version (without Google Services/Apps) via PE/AOSP or Lineage Recovery and ADB sideload.
Here are the instructions:
Install PixelExperience on mojito - PixelExperience Wiki
Install PixelExperience on mojito - PixelExperience Wiki
wiki.pixelexperience.org
Just take dotOS ROM from here (instead of Pixel Experience ROM).
Afterwards the APKs for microG:
Download - microG Project
Activate all checkboxes in microG settings, reboot and disable battery optimization for all components.
F-Droid and Aurora Store working, from there you can get the MozillaNLPbackend and NomatimNLPbackend and Deja Vu for location services without using Google.
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Amazing man, this is awesome. I was not aware that there was a deGoogled ROM for it already, nor that dotOS existed and was so slick. I will definitely take a look at this.
Does it pass SafetyNet?
Would you happen to know who the developer/maintainer for that unofficial ROM is? I looked around and couldn't find a page for it here on XDA.
Nevermind, saw here that there isn't an XDA page for some ROM for the the time being. Since I have never flashed a custom ROM on any phone, I will wait for one to see what are people's experiences with it.
Abdullah.Csit said:
There is no need to worry. It's will claim a lot of development. the most reason was to not see a lot and lazy at the beginning is on our Device (mojito/sunny) we don't have Recovery partition! which let our development slow but we have a good stuff of developers that's works hard and got us on the road as you see the roms are coming till now we got 6 roms and 3 recoveries and Orangefox soon.
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Sweet, this is comforting. I am really looking forward to deGoogling my phone, but am a little hesitant since I have zero experience flashing ROMs hahaha. Was going to go for a phone with Official LOS support but models available to me are the same price as the Note 10, but nowhere near as good.
syntheticdingo said:
Does it pass SafetyNet?
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On unrooted dotOS with just microG: no.
However, 2 out of 3 banking apps work.
After testing dotOS (vanilla) with microG for a couple of days and with a lot of apps, I'd say it's not usable as a daily driver yet.
There are problems with most apps that use maps, like Uber or Wolt or DHL parcel service.
They generate error messages that google services are not properly installed and quit or malfunction.
However, microG and the corresponding locations services install perfectly and don't show any errors.
I didn't have such problems with other ROMs on other phones (but always using microG), e.g. crDroid or ArrowOS or LineageOS.
Thanks for the feedback. Is that the only issue with the ROM?
I am really sold on DotOS, it is very close to stock and has very beautiful customizations. My problem with the one that is available so far is that it doesnt look very transparent (at least to me). No source code available, no page here. And I dont know how serious the Dev is about maintaining it, nor how credible he is as well.
Not really trying to test every ROM, just find one that is stable, deGoogled and maintained.
I think you're a couple of months too early with your questions, the phone is pretty new and the ROMS and recoveries in a very early state.
hahaha yes, I am afraid so.
My phone's battery is starting to act up, so I will have to make a purchase soon. May take a leap of faith on this phone and see how much attention it gets from the dev community
Thanks for your feedback!
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Please provide gaming rom in redmi note 10
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or you could install smartpack kernel manager and tweak the kernel parameter to give the best fps for your phone .. try it
[email protected]@@@@ said:
Please provide gaming rom in redmi note 10
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Gaming ROMs does not exist

How to install custom on Android if the hardware is not present on custom rom device list?

Hey, I want to install Pixel Experience custom rom on my Android Phone but unfortunately my phone vendor is not present on devices tab. In this case what should I do? How can I install custom rom on my Android phone?
My Phone is Techno Spark 6 GO.
you could try GSI but that device shipped Android (Go edition) usually for low ram. bootloader is unlockable?
Wnat is GSI? Generic System Image? Even if I am able to unlocked bootloader on my device then what then? Since I am not able to find custom OS for it.
Haziq12345 said:
Wnat ks GSI? Generic System Image? Even if I am able to unlocked bootloader on my device then what then? Since I am not able to find custom OS for it.
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same problem here i want to install custom rom for my devce but theres is no availablecustom rom for it
Generic System Image is generic. you won't find GSI especially for this device. it's trial and error
[GSI][13] LineageOS 20 "Light"
LineageOS is a free, community built, aftermarket firmware distribution of Android, which is designed to increase performance and reliability over stock Android for your device. LineageOS is based on the Android Open Source Project with extra...
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Thanks for the explanation, but by testing what if tested wrong GSI and phone become brick. Then it would be useless.
unlock bootloader first. if bootloader is unlocked, we will talk about *what if* questions
It's now easy to bypass MediaTek's SP Flash Tool authentication
A group of developers has created a Python utility to bypass the authentication routine of MediaTek SP Flash Tool. Check it out now!
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aIecxs said:
unlock bootloader first. if bootloader is unlocked, we will talk about *what if* questions
It's now easy to bypass MediaTek's SP Flash Tool authentication
A group of developers has created a Python utility to bypass the authentication routine of MediaTek SP Flash Tool. Check it out now!
www.xda-developers.com
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Does this works in oppo too yes my bootloader is unlocked my phone is oppo a71 cph1717
Unofficial LineageOS 17 GSI released for Project Treble compatible devices
You can now get LineageOS 17, based on Android 10, on any Project Treble compatible device thanks to this unofficial LineageOS 17 GSI release.
www.xda-developers.com
How to flash a Generic System Image (GSI) on Project Treble supported devices
So your device supports Project Treble, what does that mean for you? It means you can flash a Generic System Image such as LineageOS or Resurrection Remix! Enjoy AOSP-based custom ROMs! Here's a guide on how to install these ROMs.
www.xda-developers.com
aIecxs said:
Unofficial LineageOS 17 GSI released for Project Treble compatible devices
You can now get LineageOS 17, based on Android 10, on any Project Treble compatible device thanks to this unofficial LineageOS 17 GSI release.
www.xda-developers.com
How to flash a Generic System Image (GSI) on Project Treble supported devices
So your device supports Project Treble, what does that mean for you? It means you can flash a Generic System Image such as LineageOS or Resurrection Remix! Enjoy AOSP-based custom ROMs! Here's a guide on how to install these ROMs.
www.xda-developers.com
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So its really possible to install gsi on my oppo a71? Right sir?
you tell us
aIecxs said:
you tell us
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Hmmm its said there that i need to be android 8 or higher to flash the gsi but my phone is android 7.1.1
probably not... double check with that app
Treble Check - Apps on Google Play
Check your device for Project Treble support and more
play.google.com
found this guide but seems dangerous, most likely you will end up bricked
[GUIDE] [Q&A] [TREBLE] From Stock to Treble - everything you need to know!
Here I will share all the info you need to know about using Treble on the Mi A1. Everyone is more than welcome to ask questions and clarification here, I am happy to answer and will update this thread over time. Thanks! Contents 0. Key Terms...
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aIecxs said:
probably not... double check with that app
Treble Check - Apps on Google Play
Check your device for Project Treble support and more
play.google.com
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My phone doesnt supported but could it possibly work although its not supported?
Anonymous V said:
My phone doesnt supported but could it possibly work although its not supported?
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No. search for custom ROM for your device
aIecxs said:
No. search for custom ROM for your device
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Nah i already did but no i cant find anything im like searching for 2 months but nothing i cant find something fit on my device so i hope gsi would work for me it should be easy for me my phone is running in oreo or pie but nah i cant find custom rom for my device also i know this link custom ROM its says he that he have the same phone as mine so he prted ressurection os pie for his phone and it work im a bit worried about it pls sir if you can tell me if this rom is safe just confirm it to be safe ill try this out
Anonymous V said:
pls sir if you can tell me if this rom is safe ill try this out
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that's not how xda works.
aIecxs said:
that's not how xda works.
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Yeah i know i just asked if this is safe like there no virus or trojan somthing because it happens to before my phone broke because of virud from the rom thats why and if ever i bricked my device i know how to fix it and backup is already in standby

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