Suddenly my LG V30 stopped being able to be used "hands free" with my voice only after painstaking days getting it just right.
"Ok Google" Or Hey Google" will no longer do the following.
- Read my texts: Now it just says "there aren't any new messages" regardless of if there are new messages or not.
- "Ok Google" will NOT, (this was important for me) bypass the lock screen.
This means that while I am driving, none of the functionality that had me purchase this phone to begin with are still working.
Whatever the case may be, this was all working a couple of weeks ago.
Any ideas to solve this?
Thanks.
PM
Note:
I am using the latest version of textra, and also Nova Launcher.
Variant: LGH932 Unrooted, using stock firmware.
papamalo said:
Suddenly my LG V30 stopped being able to be used "hands free" with my voice only after painstaking days getting it just right.
"Ok Google" Or Hey Google" will no longer do the following.
- Read my texts: Now it just says "there aren't any new messages" regardless of if there are new messages or not.
- "Ok Google" will NOT, (this was important for me) bypass the lock screen.
This means that while I am driving, none of the functionality that had me purchase this phone to begin with are still working.
Whatever the case may be, this was all working a couple of weeks ago.
Any ideas to solve this?
Thanks.
PM
Note:
I am using the latest version of textra, and also Nova Launcher.
Variant: LGH932 Unrooted, using stock firmware.
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What updates do you want to roll back -- apps or stock firmware?
You can flash older versions of stock firmware via LGUP.
You can uninstall apps and reinstall older version from APK Mirror or similar site.
For user apps, you can always choose "uninstall updates". You would want to UNcheck auto update in Google Play for those apps.
papamalo said:
Suddenly my LG V30 stopped being able to be used "hands free" with my voice only after painstaking days getting it just right.
"Ok Google" Or Hey Google" will no longer do the following.
- Read my texts: Now it just says "there aren't any new messages" regardless of if there are new messages or not.
- "Ok Google" will NOT, (this was important for me) bypass the lock screen.
This means that while I am driving, none of the functionality that had me purchase this phone to begin with are still working.
Whatever the case may be, this was all working a couple of weeks ago.
Any ideas to solve this?
Thanks.
PM
Note:
I am using the latest version of textra, and also Nova Launcher.
Variant: LGH932 Unrooted, using stock firmware.
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Hmmm.. mine will no longer unlock the phone either. However it does let me use OK Google while locked. lf I ask OK Google how to unlock the phone the display says read the instructions provided. However, the settings the instructions show no longer apply to my phone. There is no longer a setting to unlock the phone with voice.
https://support.google.com/assistant/answer/7394306#turn_on?ctx=assistant_answer
Instead it's almost like a Pixel 3... It plainly says Pixel 3 will not let you unlock the phone with your voice. I'm running a magisk module that has some Pixel 3 settings. I wonder if that's the issue? Are you running any Magisk modules?
@TotallyAnxious, any ideas?
Update to the latest Google play services (apkmirror) or try clearing the data of all involved apps.
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Update to the latest Google play services (apkmirror) or try clearing the data of all involved apps.
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It seems to be the OK GOOGLE settings. They no longer show unlock with voice option, like previously.
It seems to be show Pixel 3 type settings, at least for me.
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Right?
No I am running a LGH932 Unrooted, using stock firmware, no modules, all plain and boring. but it worked until recently.
Pardon my dumbness, but would rooting magically make some of these prob;ems disappear?
Thanks! (It's been 3 years since I rooted a phone)
papamalo said:
Right?
No I am running a LGH932 Unrooted, using stock firmware, no modules, all plain and boring. but it worked until recently.
Pardon my dumbness, but would rooting magically make some of these prob;ems disappear?
Thanks! (It's been 3 years since I rooted a phone)
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No. My phone is rooted, running stock firmware. Something has changed recently. Don't know what.
Getting the same reports from Reddit LG V30, and Androidforums forums.
Apparently Google discontinued the "Unlock using voice" functionality, and while some people (Like me) say they can see the option in "voice match-unlock with voice match" toggle switch, that the functionality itself is now gone.
This probably happened with the most recent update, and now what I feared and dreaded, has come to pass and that is that I must root this phone and back-patch the software. Both things I haven't done in years.
Lord have mercy on my soul.
papamalo said:
Getting the same reports from Reddit LG V30, and Androidforums forums.
Apparently Google discontinued the "Unlock using voice" functionality, and while some people (Like me) say they can see the option in "voice match-unlock with voice match" toggle switch, that the functionality itself is now gone.
This probably happened with the most recent update, and now what I feared and dreaded, has come to pass and that is that I must root this phone and back-patch the software. Both things I haven't done in years.
Lord have mercy on my soul.
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Thankfully, ChazzMatt's instructions are EXCELLENT. Just be sure to read them carefully and then perform the process. It's a LONG post, but that's because it's thorough.
I don't think it will fix this issue, but if it does do let us know. Or if you figure out how to fix it another way... I'm guessing it's a Google update...
This begs the question:
Having immigrated from my beloved Motorola Moto X Pure (Had Moto voice controls, and did everything I wanted it to hands free, RIP Motorola under Google) to this great phone, (LG V30, which I researched before buying, and then tooled and manipulated so it could be the hands-free, voice controlled equivalent of my Moto X pure), which phone would best serve my Midrange, 4+GB RAM, all-voice controlled requirements? I mean I bought the phone for specifically this functionality, and now it's gone.
I think am ready to get another phone.
papamalo said:
Getting the same reports from Reddit LG V30, and Androidforums forums.
Apparently Google discontinued the "Unlock using voice" functionality, and while some people (Like me) say they can see the option in "voice match-unlock with voice match" toggle switch, that the functionality itself is now gone.
This probably happened with the most recent update, and now what I feared and dreaded, has come to pass and that is that I must root this phone and back-patch the software. Both things I haven't done in years.
Lord have mercy on my soul.
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You don't have to root to go back to earlier firmware. To root our phones, we have to temporarily go back to earlier firmware BEFORE we can unlock bootloader and root.
You can revert back to Nougat right now if you want, with unrooted phone.
If you find the version of firmware you want to keep, then you will need some way disabling the OTA process from trying to update you. But let's take one step at a time.
I'm curious when this happened, what version of firmware? Or is Nova app which lost that functionality?
papamalo said:
This begs the question:
Having immigrated from my beloved Motorola Moto X Pure (Had Moto voice controls, and did everything I wanted it to hands free, RIP Motorola under Google) to this great phone, (LG V30, which I researched before buying, and then tooled and manipulated so it could be the hands-free, voice controlled equivalent of my Moto X pure), which phone would best serve my Midrange, 4+GB RAM, all-voice controlled requirements? I mean I bought the phone for specifically this functionality, and now it's gone.
I think am ready to get another phone.
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1) Yes, this phone is an excellent replacement for the Motorola phones like Moto X Pure, Droid Turbo, Moto Maxx, Moto Turbo. I had the international version of the Droid Turbo for 3 years, which is why I researched and bought the V30. It's the premium flagship phone Motorola should have released instead of the stupid mods phones.
2) If this is something Google is forcing, with updated firmware/security requirements, wouldn't all phones be affected? If it's something related to only Nova settings (I don't think so) then we can revert Nova and not update.
If it's really, really important to you, then revert back to earlier firmware and earlier Nova.
Or some dev can figure out how to bring that feature back via Magisk mod or something.
Just buying another phone won't do the trick, unless you are proposing to go back to 2013/2014 phones -- which no longer receive updates...
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Here you go:
Google begins replacing full 'Voice Match' phone unlock
https://9to5google.com/2019/02/28/google-replacing-voice-match-unlock/
This deprecation of “Unlock with Voice Match” is rolling out via a sever-side update, but we’ve already spotted it with Google app 9.27 (the current stable release) on a Moto Z and a Pixel XL. Other devices we checked with Google app 9.31 have yet to lose the full voice unlock.
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Read the article and comments at the bottom. People are figuring out how to revert this. Maybe installing every Google Assistant app then preventing updates?
Good thing google knows what's better for me than I do myself. "ultimately for the better"
The audacity of the language.
OK. I am following your lead Chazzmatt. Later today I am going to root, revert to earlier firmware and nova, and turn off automatic updates.
First I'll get all version information and share it with you.
Thanks for the support.
MB
And here might be another solution.
My issue with the lack of hands-free use is basically centered around my driving, and tasks I have to do at work while on the road.
I am considering getting my favorite old phone a motorola moto x pure,, and the cheapest carrier program I can find, and just using that for when I drive, after making sure they still have Moto voice functionality, and that I can revert to older firmware, nova and google versions. It would only cost around $150, and I'd just use it as a car phone mounted.
What do you think chazzmatt? Would that be easier than doing all this with my LG V30?
THanks.
PM
I just realized, my V30 on stock, rooted VS996 20i is responding to hands free voice commands via "OK Google" and "Hey Google". Note, we also have a Google Home Mini in the house, so that responds too... but the phone lights up and wakes up at the same time. (What's weird is that the phone says "cannot reach google at the moment" while the Mini works as we need it to, to turn lights on/off, etc... not sure what that's about). But, regardless, the phone wakes with the command word... is that what you say you're missing?
schwinn8 said:
I just realized, my V30 on stock, rooted VS996 20i is responding to hands free voice commands via "OK Google" and "Hey Google". Note, we also have a Google Home Mini in the house, so that responds too... but the phone lights up and wakes up at the same time. (What's weird is that the phone says "cannot reach google at the moment" while the Mini works as we need it to, to turn lights on/off, etc... not sure what that's about). But, regardless, the phone wakes with the command word... is that what you say you're missing?
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Close but not quite.
What happened is that the lock screen (the screen that asks for a 4 to 5-digit pin number, or gesture to unlock the phone) no longer unlocks using the "OK google" or Hey google" command.
this means that while I drive, I can no longer have the safety of "hands free" use while driving.
Thanks!
papamalo said:
Close but not quite.
What happened is that the lock screen (the screen that asks for a 4 to 5-digit pin number, or gesture to unlock the phone) no longer unlocks using the "OK google" or Hey google" command.
this means that while I drive, I can no longer have the safety of "hands free" use while driving.
Thanks!
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Yeah, as I said, that IS working for me on VS99620i, rooted. I have no special modules/tweaks. If there's something I can look for, let me know. Again, I do have Google Home installed, so maybe that's what's helping it work, I don't know, but I'm happy to dig deeper.
papamalo said:
Close but not quite.
What happened is that the lock screen (the screen that asks for a 4 to 5-digit pin number, or gesture to unlock the phone) no longer unlocks using the "OK google" or Hey google" command.
this means that while I drive, I can no longer have the safety of "hands free" use while driving.
Thanks!
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You'll never get that back. Google changed the feature. The Google play store forces play services updates.
It's gone.
TotallyAnxious said:
You'll never get that back. Google changed the feature. The Google play store forces play services updates.
It's gone.
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Or really........
I have $20 on me getting it done by whatever means necessary. I will root, hack, revert, and block update my way to victory. I might even rip the phone open and pour hot chili sauce into it's CPU. I am getting that S**T back.
lol
TotallyAnxious said:
You'll never get that back. Google changed the feature. The Google play store forces play services updates.
It's gone.
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I believe you're right. I just tried to roll back versions and it temporarily showed that voice unlock option, then it disappeared with a pop-up notice.
I then restored previous version again from Titanium Backup and blocked Google Play from updating without my permission, but the option never showed again even temporarily.
What I have not yet done, and probably useless, is restore TWRP backup...
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Hello all
As someone handling sensitive information, I would like to investigate the security Android is dealing with.
First of all I got scared when I bought the app called SQLite Editor. It had all of my most vital passwords just stored in plain text. What I did immediately was a format of both internal and SD card as a reaction. However, I couldn't even find a feature to secure wipe the internal memory, while I've DBAN'd the SD card 7x.
So my thought was, I have to encrypt it. ICS seems to have a nice feature for that, however, it doesn't kind of work for me. I'm currently on cm-9.0.0-rc1-tinystream-hephappy-p500 (RC1-Rev.B). I went to Security in System Settings and touched "Encrypt Device". It gave some confirmations and I've accepted them however, now I'm kind of stuck on this screen.
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My first thought was "it is encrypting". But after hours of waiting, I wanted to check if it's done already. So I clicked the power-button once (just to unlock) and it asked for my password. I've entered it and it just went into my normal launcher. I've checked if anything had changed and no, my device has not been encrypted. Any logs somewhere? Any ideas what could have caused the problem?
Beside that, I asked myself the question "how secure is my Google account". As I am not planning to store any password to my device anymore, I am still connected to my Google account. I have DroidWall blocking all connections (except for my OpenVPN one).
Now my question is, what if my phone gets stolen. Does my SD-card contain any sensitive data, that's the first question. I am using LINK2SD to put everything on my SD card by the way. What security does Android use to connect to my Google account? If the thief turns on wifi and starts sniffing what data passes, what exactly would a hacker be able to sniff from me? Even then, my contacts contain valuable information. If my phone gets stolen, a hacker could simply steal all of my contacts, can't he?
Does someone have any idea to secure my phone? To connect to the internet I have OpenVPN working and blocking other connections with DroidWall. So the real case is, the data on my phone itself. Even if I use a anti-theft tool from the market and do a remote factory reset, the thief would still be able to use a datarecovery tool and so I would be screwed...
Another question: is it possible to combine a password lock and a slide lockscreen? As when I now enter my password and then put my phone in my pocket, it automaticly presses lots of things I don't want to press as there is no lockscreen for 30 minutes (I made the modification to the settings as my password is very long and I don't want to re-enter it each time). It would be perfect if a password lock would be on there to boot the phone (and even better to decrypt it) and every next time without rebooting the phone getting a patern unlock, that would be great.
So, if you can add anything usefull about securing or what security Android uses, please let me know.
Thank you very much
PS: One completely different question: does someone know why my phone boots when I plug it in to a charger? I don't like that, I want to charge without booting.
Encrypting the device will just make your device request a password each time you power it on. Since you securely erased your SD card (7x), it'll be somewhat difficult to recover those files. Just to be sure though, you could erase it using 35x (you may also want to defrag any files first). Your device connects to your Google account using a secure connection (more detailed here: https://developers.google.com/secure-data-connector/docs/1.3/security). If your contacts were synced with your Google account, it'll be ridiculously easy for anyone to access them (as long as your device is still linked to your account). So yes, a hacker could gain access (you wouldn't even need to be a hacker to do it; It's that simple).
This is quite a useful app to secure your device: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.morrison.applock&hl=en. There are some methods to get around it, but you are able to prevent them from happening so it's still quite handy. If you remotely wipe your device, a "theif" may not be able to recover your data. Data recovery tools usually deal with external memory, so it'll be harder to recovery your device's internal data.
Yes, it is possible. If you set a password lock on your device and use some 3rd party screen lock, then you can use them at the same time. Remember you can also setup a SIM lock.
P.S: Does your device boot up fully or just to the battery charging icon? Does your device boot into recovery mode while attempting to charge it while off?
Thank you for your valuable reaction. According to what you say, Android actually doesn't care about security at all. I've just read that the Device Encryption isn't even 256-bit AES, but only 128. However, according to the link I can see that it actually uses some kind of VPN to connect to my Google account? If it is that secure, can I assume that my SQL Database of the Googel account also has extra encryption on it? And how far do you think that tunnel connection goes, does it also count for the GMail app or just for the basic Android connection? However, my contacts are indeed synced with my Google account. What do you suggest to do then? Noone should ever possibly get access to it. Let's say that I want to be as secure as that even the FBI or CIA won't be able to access it, any suggestions to accomplish that?
What I'm thinking about now is unlinking my Google account with my Android device (or even flashing a rom without Google Apps), but what would my phone make sense then? All of my contacts, numbers and more are stored on my Google profile, no other place. You also mentioned "so it'll be harder to recovery your device's internal data", from which I presume it is possible. Because I'm kind of paranoid because of what happened to me in the past, I hereby think that the only way to fix it is by encrypting the device. However, I can't get past that logo and a 3rd party app doesn't seem to do that kind of job (except for WhisperCore, which has been out of development since it has been bought by Twitter).
An interesting idea that I've just thought of is importing my contacts into Skype and then just always use the Skype app (combined with 3G). Skype always uses a 256-bit AES encryption and so it is secure for sure.
So, what do you think? Should I unlink my Google account with my Android device? Or should I just disable sync? Also, in my experience, there indeed always is a way to bypass an app locker (as easy as just removing the app, which can easily be done from recovery).
PS: It fully boots up. My previous version of CM9 booted to the battery charging icon, it's that that I want back.
Set a pattern unlock... it is FBI-proof as stated by CNET (if I've not mistaken)
And even amazon is using 128-bit... that isn't anything strange that Google isn't using 256-bit
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Yes it does use that connection (it wouldn't make sense to make it "open stream"). Your database files can be easily accessed from your device. The information will be secured in your Google account, but hackers can still find ways to access it (difficulty would depend on what you do). The tunnel connection goes for all your Google apps. Well if you're that paranoid, you'll probably want to remove your contacts from your Google account and disable sync.
If you do that, you will not be able to access any Google services from an app, your device will be missing important Google framework files, and you will not be able to download apps from the Play Store. Everything's possible .
Yes, you could do that. Keep in mind that the number of bits isn't necessarily important. See here: http://www.bestsslcertificates.com/articles11.html.
I would suggest disable sync.
P.S: Did you change your recovery since then?
melvinchng said:
Set a pattern unlock... it is FBI-proof as stated by CNET (if I've not mistaken)
And even amazon is using 128-bit... that isn't anything strange that Google isn't using 256-bit
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I am going to be honest, the first thing I did when I read this was laughing. But after some research, I saw you actually have a point. I've just read this: http://www.electricpig.co.uk/2012/0...roids-old-school-pattern-unlock-is-fbi-proof/
But then I ask myself, how hard can the FBI suck? If I'm right, you can just reboot into recovery and then access everything from there? Even disabling the pattern unlock from there is an option, no?
Beside that, what about encrypted messaging and encrypting calls. There are lots of apps available for that, but none except for Skype is stable and non-ugly at the same time.
Rakoen said:
I am going to be honest, the first thing I did when I read this was laughing. But after some research, I saw you actually have a point. I've just read this: http://www.electricpig.co.uk/2012/0...roids-old-school-pattern-unlock-is-fbi-proof/
But then I ask myself, how hard can the FBI suck? If I'm right, you can just reboot into recovery and then access everything from there? Even disabling the pattern unlock from there is an option, no?
Beside that, what about encrypted messaging and encrypting calls. There are lots of apps available for that, but none except for Skype is stable and non-ugly at the same time.
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You can't change the setting in recovery, eg. Disable pattern unlock. It is a setting, unless you are just a little bit lucky, or else system will be corrupted
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Rakoen said:
I am going to be honest, the first thing I did when I read this was laughing. But after some research, I saw you actually have a point. I've just read this: http://www.electricpig.co.uk/2012/0...roids-old-school-pattern-unlock-is-fbi-proof/
But then I ask myself, how hard can the FBI suck? If I'm right, you can just reboot into recovery and then access everything from there? Even disabling the pattern unlock from there is an option, no?
Beside that, what about encrypted messaging and encrypting calls. There are lots of apps available for that, but none except for Skype is stable and non-ugly at the same time.
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You could "encrypt" your messages and calls with an app locker (make "settings" be a locked app so it cannot be uninstalled). No, the pattern unlock cannot be disabled via recovery. You can access many things from recovery, but not like that. The only way they could know your pattern would be by finger markings (which you could wipe away or get a fingerprint resistant screen; unless your device is one of those which can be bypassed with key combinations).
Theonew said:
Yes it does use that connection (it wouldn't make sense to make it "open stream"). Your database files can be easily accessed from your device. The information will be secured in your Google account, but hackers can still find ways to access it (difficulty would depend on what you do). The tunnel connection goes for all your Google apps. Well if you're that paranoid, you'll probably want to remove your contacts from your Google account and disable sync.
If you do that, you will not be able to access any Google services from an app, your device will be missing important Google framework files, and you will not be able to download apps from the Play Store. Everything's possible .
Yes, you could do that. Keep in mind that the number of bits isn't necessarily important. See here: http://www.bestsslcertificates.com/articles11.html.
I would suggest disable sync.
P.S: Did you change your recovery since then?
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There must be a solution for this, without having to remove the complete Google framework. But indeed, I am that paranoid. Nothing may lead to any personal file I have. However, you also mentioned "removing contacts from my Google account". Why would that be necessary? Google doesn't even give the FBI access to my account so why wouldn't it be secure? What I'm thinking off now is syncing my Google account with my Android device. Then unlinking it and then encrypting the contacts, just the contacts. Then I did sync, I did unlink and did encrypt. Wouldn't that make it impossible for enyone on the entire world to access anything from me?
Google services are not important for me, that "important framework files" don't sound important enough to me and the Google Play store... I don't care about it. Enough APK's around. Security first.
You are reminding me that the bits aren't important, while that's true, I want to remind you that secure deletion of 35x isn't that important too. 7x is more than enough if you choose a powerfull PNG stream.
Theonew said:
You could "encrypt" your messages and calls with an app locker (make "settings" be a locked app so it cannot be uninstalled). No, the pattern unlock cannot be disabled via recovery. You can access many things from recovery, but not like that. The only way they could know your pattern would be by finger markings (which you could wipe away or get a fingerprint resistant screen; unless your device is one of those which can be bypassed with key combinations).
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Well, I actually was thinking like "why would you even neet to unlock the device". As far as I know, something as a pattern lockscreen doens't encrypt/decrypt anything except for your launcher, which is not a necessary product. I mean, you say "you can access many things from recovery", doesn't this include like every important files? Aren't databases accessible and so also contacts or messages?
However, about the encrypted calls and messages I actually mean off the record things. Like TextSecure do.
Rakoen said:
There must be a solution for this, without having to remove the complete Google framework. But indeed, I am that paranoid. Nothing may lead to any personal file I have. However, you also mentioned "removing contacts from my Google account". Why would that be necessary? Google doesn't even give the FBI access to my account so why wouldn't it be secure? What I'm thinking off now is syncing my Google account with my Android device. Then unlinking it and then encrypting the contacts, just the contacts. Then I did sync, I did unlink and did encrypt. Wouldn't that make it impossible for enyone on the entire world to access anything from me?
Google services are not important for me, that "important framework files" don't sound important enough to me and the Google Play store... I don't care about it. Enough APK's around. Security first.
You are reminding me that the bits aren't important, while that's true, I want to remind you that secure deletion of 35x isn't that important too. 7x is more than enough if you choose a powerfull PNG stream.
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About the Google framework files, you may want to take a look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1715375. That could be necessary to prevent hackers from getting to them. Yes, unless your data was still left on Google servers (in your account) and hackers got to it.
Yes, but some powerful undelete and data recovery softwares can still recovery data deleted using 7x (especially if the files were fragmented).
Rakoen said:
Well, I actually was thinking like "why would you even neet to unlock the device". As far as I know, something as a pattern lockscreen doens't encrypt/decrypt anything except for your launcher, which is not a necessary product. I mean, you say "you can access many things from recovery", doesn't this include like every important files? Aren't databases accessible and so also contacts or messages?
However, about the encrypted calls and messages I actually mean off the record things. Like TextSecure do.
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You can use 3rd party apps to set pattern unlock for other apps. Partly, but not quite. In recovery, you can access /data (where all your data is stored), but only to backup that partition (unless you made a previous backup which would also allow you to "restore"). You can't access the files like being able to view them (unless you are using Aroma file manager, but you still won't access those files). Databases, contacts, and messages are not accessible (unless you backed them up to your SDcard - they still wouldn't be readable though).
Rakoen said:
Well, I actually was thinking like "why would you even neet to unlock the device". As far as I know, something as a pattern lockscreen doens't encrypt/decrypt anything except for your launcher, which is not a necessary product. I mean, you say "you can access many things from recovery", doesn't this include like every important files? Aren't databases accessible and so also contacts or messages?
However, about the encrypted calls and messages I actually mean off the record things. Like TextSecure do.
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This topic is getting more and more interesting.
In the other hand, IF you're having pure Google Device with build in memory, people cant access your storage (built in memory) without entering a pattern or etc
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Theonew said:
About the Google framework files, you may want to take a look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1715375. That could be necessary to prevent hackers from getting to them. Yes, unless your data was still left on Google servers (in your account) and hackers got to it.
Yes, but some powerful undelete and data recovery softwares can still recovery data deleted using 7x (especially if the files were fragmented).
You can use 3rd party apps to set pattern unlock for other apps. Partly, but not quite. In recovery, you can access /data (where all your data is stored), but only to backup that partition (unless you made a previous backup which would also allow you to "restore"). You can't access the files like being able to view them (unless you are using Aroma file manager, but you still won't access those files). Databases, contacts, and messages are not accessible (unless you backed them up to your SDcard - they still wouldn't be readable though).
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The 7x note is not correct for 100%. The way that I overwrite data won't make it possible to recover anything at 7x, not even using powerful undelete or data recovery software. Even if you're a professional, it will be very hard to get back any data. I have experience in this sector, so I know where I'm talking about on this part.
However, what you just said about the pattern unlock is almost unbelievable. Doesn't this simply solve everything? I mean, why would anyone ever use the Android Device Encryption in ICS if there is something as a pattern unlock? Why would it make sense to use AES 128-bit when you can't even access it without the encryption?
So it wouldn't even make sense to unlink my Google account, would it? It isn't accessible you say, so why whould it be any concern? If the FBI isn't able to break behind the pattern unlock, who would be? You first said that a hacker can easily get access to any sensitive data if I sync my Google account, but why should it? Even without OpenVPN, it uses a VPN encryption for every Google App ... so Android is the best in security, I was wrong?
melvinchng said:
This topic is getting more and more interesting.
In the other hand, IF you're having pure Google Device with build in memory, people cant access your storage (built in memory) without entering a pattern or etc
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You are very right on that. It really is getting interesting. Your "IF" makes me wonder what exactly you mean. As I have a LG Optimus One (P500) with custom rom, custom recovery and custom radio. Does it make any difference here?
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You are very right on that. It really is getting interesting. Your "IF" makes me wonder what exactly you mean. As I have a LG Optimus One (P500) with custom rom, custom recovery and custom radio. Does it make any difference here?
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You can't access your storage WITHOUT entering the pattern in stock device. IF you're in stock and wanted to root, both system and internal SD will be wiped (a factory reset will be made). So no data will be left
Device: nexus s, galaxy nexus, nexus 7
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And regarding to the security, Google released an app that helps you to monitor which app is requesting what permission. You can even set which permission is deny so that you can't install the app and highly "dangerous" app will be kept away from your device.
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Rakoen said:
The 7x note is not correct for 100%. The way that I overwrite data won't make it possible to recover anything at 7x, not even using powerful undelete or data recovery software. Even if you're a professional, it will be very hard to get back any data. I have experience in this sector, so I know where I'm talking about on this part.
However, what you just said about the pattern unlock is almost unbelievable. Doesn't this simply solve everything? I mean, why would anyone ever use the Android Device Encryption in ICS if there is something as a pattern unlock? Why would it make sense to use AES 128-bit when you can't even access it without the encryption?
So it wouldn't even make sense to unlink my Google account, would it? It isn't accessible you say, so why whould it be any concern? If the FBI isn't able to break behind the pattern unlock, who would be? You first said that a hacker can easily get access to any sensitive data if I sync my Google account, but why should it? Even without OpenVPN, it uses a VPN encryption for every Google App ... so Android is the best in security, I was wrong?
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Not necessarily. If someone knows your pattern unlock, they could unlock your device. Or even people standing behind you could see it. Someone may use it if another person knows their unlock pattern (but wouldn't know the code).
If USB debugging is enabled, someone could access your databases, etc. over adb. You wouldn't need to sync your Google account - your device would do that automatically (unless you disabled sync which is what I suggested).
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You can't access your storage WITHOUT entering the pattern in stock device. IF you're in stock and wanted to root, both system and internal SD will be wiped (a factory reset will be made). So no data will be left
Device: nexus s, galaxy nexus, nexus 7
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That's a true thing you say there. But however, it doesn't apply in my situation. I currently am on a rooted device that not even is a nexus (LG Optimus One P500)... so how does it make sense in my case?
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And regarding to the security, Google released an app that helps you to monitor which app is requesting what permission. You can even set which permission is deny so that you can't install the app and highly "dangerous" app will be kept away from your device.
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I've blocked all connections using DroidWall, so it would be impossible to upload anything personal to an intruder. Beside that, I use my own way of scanning apps and so I do know if I'm secure on that matter. However, thanks for letting me know there is an app for that.
However, I'm not concerned about that kind of security (I am protected against any kind of virusses or malware), my concern is about sniffers and more importantly thiefs that are great hackers (which in my case are around the corner).
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Not necessarily. If someone knows your pattern unlock, they could unlock your device. Or even people standing behind you could see it. Someone may use it if another person knows their unlock pattern (but wouldn't know the code).
If USB debugging is enabled, someone could access your databases, etc. over adb. You wouldn't need to sync your Google account - your device would do that automatically (unless you disabled sync which is what I suggested).
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Disable visible pattern and use two steps verification for Gmail.
Google search for it, 2 steps verification for Gmail.
Even thought someone has your Gmail account AND password, they still aren't able to log in into your mail... and the password that you use to log in in your Android device IS different from the normal one AND the password has to renew monthly..
Google really put a lot of hard work on solving those problem that you mentioned. Try out those things that Google has made
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Theonew said:
Not necessarily. If someone knows your pattern unlock, they could unlock your device. Or even people standing behind you could see it. Someone may use it if another person knows their unlock pattern (but wouldn't know the code).
If USB debugging is enabled, someone could access your databases, etc. over adb. You wouldn't need to sync your Google account - your device would do that automatically (unless you disabled sync which is what I suggested).
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Well, then I'm going to create a pattern unlock as strong that it's impossible to follow, even if the person is standing beside me and looking at it. I'm also not planning to show it to anyone and will look around if there are cameras every time I unlock (yes, I am paranoid, but with reason).
I thought exactly the same about USB debugging and so I disabled it. I don't understand what you are trying to say with the sync. Why would I want to disable it? What would it add as security?
And it seems like I skipped this:
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P.S: Did you change your recovery since then?
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No, I haven't change my recovery since a long time.
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That's a true thing you say there. But however, it doesn't apply in my situation. I currently am on a rooted device that not even is a nexus (LG Optimus One P500)... so how does it make sense in my case?
I've blocked all connections using DroidWall, so it would be impossible to upload anything personal to an intruder. Beside that, I use my own way of scanning apps and so I do know if I'm secure on that matter. However, thanks for letting me know there is an app for that.
However, I'm not concerned about that kind of security (I am protected against any kind of virusses or malware), my concern is about sniffers and more importantly thiefs that are great hackers (which in my case are around the corner).
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Can you let us know what is your job / what does your phone contains / what is most of them...
And actually, there is an Chinese app, 360 Strong Box, and what it does is exactly what you want. It is a software made by 360 company, the app can convert image / video / documents and data into a file that can only be access by using the 360 strongbox... you don't have to worry about the security, 360 is one of the largest Chinese security company that provides antivirus or anti spyware on different platform, windows, android, symbian, iOS etc.
UNFORTUNATELY, it is in Chinese language and the company signed it in private, so I couldn't compile and recompile it and make a translation.
Request from the company for the English translation. I can help them to translate if they're willing to release a copy of English version. The translation is about 400 lines only, a short app.
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I've spent a month with KK on 2 phones, and ultimately contacted Verizon after my work phone left me unable to email, and then died only 3 hours after unplugging the charger.
I went through the exercise of doing a factory reset (which did not fix any of the issues, surprise surprise) and Verizon agreed to send me a replacement phone.
But what I did notice is this:
On both phones, after doing a factory reset, most of the bloatware was *not* on the phone until I gave it my gmail address... then they began downloading (isis, nfl, allshare, print services, audible, and on and on.)
I re-reset, rebooted, and did NOT give my gmail (or any other email) and the downloads did not start. After a few hours, I gave it my gmail, and the downloads started. And I would like to point out... these downloads are NOT restoring or synching any of my play store apps, these are all of the junk that were pre-installed when I got the phones (for example - nfl live, or nfl direct, or whatever it is called is NOT on the phone until after it is downloaded and installed automatically.)
So today I have a new Galaxy S4 with JellyBean 4.3 (I545VRUEMK2)
After activating it, it started downloading a "software update", KK I presume.
I didn't let it finish; I restarted the phone and re-factory reset it, and immediately turned off wifi.
I've not given it my gmail, but had to give it my work email (exchange).
So far, no updates... It is just a vanilla system with nothing more than my work email (which is working fine.)
Is there any way that I can, at this point, prevent it updating or installing all of the Verizon garbage?
I know the knee-jerk answer will be "root it" but I want to avoid that if possible... this is my employer's phone, and I don't want that to be an issue if there are any problems with the phone.
If it's owned by your employer why do you care about bloatware?
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decaturbob said:
If it's owned by your employer why do you care about bloatware?
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Multiple reasons... I would like to be able to have a phone that works properly, without a lot of garbage getting in the way.
Secondly, because my personal phone is being replaced as well, and I would like to keep it running as smooth as possible as well.
You can disable most of the apps under settings. And they are already present on the phone, they are simply being upgraded to newer versions when you enter your Google account information.
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Multiple reasons... I would like to be able to have a phone that works properly, without a lot of garbage getting in the way.
Secondly, because my personal phone is being replaced as well, and I would like to keep it running as smooth as possible as well.
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Since you are still running JB you should be able to root. Once rooted, you can simply uninstall the bloatware with SDX software romoval app. It is NOT in the google play market, but if you google it you should be able to find it. What I do is "freeze" the app with Titanium Backup Pro. Once frozen, the apps do not load nor update. Freezing gives you the ability to update the phone to the new FW when the time comes. Just unfreeze all apps, update, then freeze them again. Downside is that NC5 still has NO native root. So, you could just keep it JB instead of upgrading to KK and losing root. There are other options out there for upgrading to 4.4.2 and keeping root, but if you are looking for simplicity, just keep it JB. Lastly, VooDoo OTA root keeper works MOST of the time. However, with 4.4.3, you still lose root.
I am sure there is a list of apps somewhere in the S4 forums for you so you know what to freeze. From my experience, I froze all verizion apps minus "My Verizion Mobile", all bloatware like Isis, NFL, IMDB, ect., and even SDM(the app that controls OTA updates). Hope this helps.
Ever since the lollipop update, my phone has been getting this Capacity for NFC services full: Not enough capacity to enable to service. Try disabling one or more services. I do not have NFC on, and when i do turn it on the same thing happens. It gives the option to cancel or change service. When i click on change service it goes to setting and says, Unfortunately, Settings has stopped. How do i stop this error?
Same issue here
Hi there.
Unfortunately I don't have a solution but just wanted to let you know that I have exactly the same problem. My Sony Xperia Z2 updated to Lollipop last friday and since then I get this annoying "capaciteit voor NFC-services is vol" message (it's in Dutch ) When I click on 'change settings' a new window is opened where it is not possible to change any setting. Switched NFC on and off but doesn't seem to do anything. The message keeps popping up irregularly...
Very annoying issue. Hope someone finds a solution.
Exaclty the same issue here
Vanaglory said:
Ever since the lollipop update, my phone has been getting this Capacity for NFC services full: Not enough capacity to enable to service. Try disabling one or more services. I do not have NFC on, and when i do turn it on the same thing happens. It gives the option to cancel or change service. When i click on change service it goes to setting and says, Unfortunately, Settings has stopped. How do i stop this error?
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Unfortunately I am also haveing the same issue. It's very annoying.
Vanaglory said:
Ever since the lollipop update, my phone has been getting this Capacity for NFC services full: Not enough capacity to enable to service. Try disabling one or more services. I do not have NFC on, and when i do turn it on the same thing happens. It gives the option to cancel or change service. When i click on change service it goes to setting and says, Unfortunately, Settings has stopped. How do i stop this error?
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Try Factory Reset
There must be a better way than just a factory reset, and not sure if that would actually solve the issue.
Just chiming in that I updated to Lollipop on my Z3 last night and am encountering the same issue.
dreamoo said:
There must be a better way than just a factory reset, and not sure if that would actually solve the issue.
Just chiming in that I updated to Lollipop on my Z3 last night and am encountering the same issue.
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Just got this problem myself this morning on my Z2 running Lollipop. Did you manage to find a fix?
I can't seem to find anything other than this post concerning this issue.
Thanks.
Same Problem
I did a factory restore and I am still getting the same issue.
Same here
I'm experiencing the same thing. Upgraded to Lollipop last month, but this only started a couple days ago. Not after installing a new app. Got low on disk space, which triggered a back up alert. Cleaned out my pics, but then started getting this error.
Xperzia Z3 Compact
Model D5803
Bell Mobility Canada
Android 5.0.2
Kernel version
3.4.0-perf-g72984dd
[email protected] #1
Fri Feb 27 18:06:32 2015
Build Number 23.1.A.0.726
Vanaglory said:
Ever since the lollipop update, my phone has been getting this Capacity for NFC services full: Not enough capacity to enable to service. Try disabling one or more services. I do not have NFC on, and when i do turn it on the same thing happens. It gives the option to cancel or change service. When i click on change service it goes to setting and says, Unfortunately, Settings has stopped. How do i stop this error?
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I think I figured it out. Suggested a bunch of apps that had bee recently updated on reddit, and the common denominator was the Scotiabank app, updated a few days ago.
Uninstalled, no NFC errors. I have written the dev, and hope for a response soon. That seems to be the cause, so check it out and post if it works for you.
Solution: Clear Google Play Services and NFC Service Data in Safe Mode
Don't know if this is a solution but it worked for me.
1) Boot into Safe Mode.
2) With NFC off, clear all data from NFC Service and Google Play service via Settings>Apps>All.
2.a) Clear data from any Mobile Payment/Banking App and any NFC enabled app.
2.b) Under the running apps, select via the top right dots to view cached apps.
2.c) Delete (Stop) them all. It can be tedious as some won't stop before others but persist and it can be done.
3) Restart phone and error is gone.
thanx, worked for me as well. remainings of android pay caused the problem on my mobile.
Hi Guy !
Same problem here.
Unfortunately no Scotia Bank, noting...
And when i get this message, it says that is current capacity used is.... 0%!!!
I begin to hate this phone :s
Thanks if you have any tip.
Laurent
I've got a Z3 compact that I recently downgraded from LP to KK (no root). Upon booting into KK for the first time, a toast notification appeared stating that the NFC firmware was being updated. After that, the google play services updated and then this stupid "Capacity for NFC Services Full" message kept popping up. It only seems to pop up randomly and only goes away when I disable NFC, but I can't seem to get rid of it using any of the methods mentioned in this thread. Has anyone else ran into this? I've completely wiped my phone twice and continue to have the same issue.
All google searches result in useless forum threads about the Scotia Bank app causing this issue. I don't have that app, so it's gotta be something else.
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I've got a Z3 compact that I recently downgraded from LP to KK (no root). Upon booting into KK for the first time, a toast notification appeared stating that the NFC firmware was being updated. After that, the google play services updated and then this stupid "Capacity for NFC Services Full" message kept popping up. It only seems to pop up randomly and only goes away when I disable NFC, but I can't seem to get rid of it using any of the methods mentioned in this thread. Has anyone else ran into this? I've completely wiped my phone twice and continue to have the same issue.
All google searches result in useless forum threads about the Scotia Bank app causing this issue. I don't have that app, so it's gotta be something else.
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It's caused by latest versions of google play services app. Older versions doesn't have this bug. Uninstall google play services update and "Capacity for NFC Services Full" message is gone forever. But I know It isn't a solution Only google can fix it...
Makiavell said:
It's caused by latest versions of google play services app. Older versions doesn't have this bug. Uninstall google play services update and "Capacity for NFC Services Full" message is gone forever. But I know It isn't a solution Only google can fix it...
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Yeah, I figured Google Play Services was the issue, but if I uninstall and roll back to the original version the phone ships with, it isn't compatible with Google apps (music, youtube, etc). I was just hoping there was a better fix. For now, I've simply disabled NFC and turn it on before I use Android Pay. The extra clicks aren't really a big deal since I don't have a fingerprint scanner and need to touch the screen to unlock anyway. Plus, I don't use AP often enough to bother me. Thanks for the confirmation though!
Edit - after further thought, if Google Play Services is the cause, then why aren't more people affected by this and why wasn't my device affected all along. I only recently rolled back to KK and this issue started. The Google Play Services version is still the same, right?
As an Android developer who is working on NFC payment in a mobile wallet, I can tell that our team identified the source of the problem to reside in Sony's Android modifications. No other platform produces these errors. I can't yet link the forum thread, but google for "sony xperia off host apdu service capacity full", the result from talk.sonymobile.com will show further details.
So you can probably stop looking for the cause in Google products, or 3rd party wallet/banking apps. They (we) also suffer from this issue.
Sony isn't responding in the referenced thread, so this may not be fixed soon.
Sorry to tell bad news.
my phone has this issue today, it began right AFTER i did a factory reset... just wanted to clear it off and start again... now this??
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Don't know if this is a solution but it worked for me.
1) Boot into Safe Mode.
2) With NFC off, clear all data from NFC Service and Google Play service via Settings>Apps>All.
2.a) Clear data from any Mobile Payment/Banking App and any NFC enabled app.
2.b) Under the running apps, select via the top right dots to view cached apps.
2.c) Delete (Stop) them all. It can be tedious as some won't stop before others but persist and it can be done.
3) Restart phone and error is gone.
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The scary thing is this post was made 30-JAN-2016 and it's still being experienced.
Bought a Chinese Refurb Xperia Z3 Compact.
Android 4.4.4
Build 23.0.A.2.98
I'd only installed FTP Server Pro (to test 802.11ac bandwidth) by The Olive tree on an otherwise stock Z3C and after enabling NFC, the "NFC full" error message started popping up.
I followed the instructions above and managed to clear the cache/data on everything except one Twitter service which I couldn't stop.
After a reboot from safe mode, the phone is not showing the NFC error message.
I have enabled NFC and used it with a couple of NFC Bluetooth speakers and NFC tags around the house and it's working without errors.
Fingers cross, I won't see this message again.
Thnx
My Z3 Compact was running Android 5.0.2 since 2.5 years and I never encountered this pop-up. I never used NFC.
I changed to another mobile operator, and as soon as I replaced the SIM in my phone, I started getting this pop-up, saying that the space is 174% used.
I suspect the SIM being pre-configured for Orange Cash, although the application is not installed on my phone.
I tried the various workarounds mentioned in this thread and on Sony's forum, but none worked.
This phone is rooted, and I often get this pop-up when some "sudo" tasks are launched (kill process, freeze application, ...).
I have run out of ideas...
For those who still strugle with this shi* and clearing cache is not working:
1. Download and install any payment app, doesn't matter, won't use. I have Tap & go
2. Enable NFC
3. Go to Touch & pay in device section
4. Change from google play to installed app.
You can now disable NFC, no popup should occure
Issues:
1: Every 24-48 hours google activation, (activating the phone using "hey google", or "ok Google") simply STOPS. Until I restart the phone. No matter what wifi I use or where I am.
2: Google keyboard voice to text, (I use it when texting people, since it acts like dictation) just stops randomly, after a few sentences, especially when I use Textra message app.
Ay ideas on how to solve this?
(I already have an inquiry in to the textra team)
Thanks.
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My US998 (plural) work fine with Google Assistant and my Google Voice number works fine. How are the two related?
Or do you mean voice dictation? Yeah, sometimes that stops while speaking and I have to restart.
Oh. maybe I didn;t make it clear enough.
two separate problems.
1: The phone won't wake up or respond to the "OK google" command unless I restart the phone
2: Like you said, I can only dictate a few words before it stops taking dictation.
Thanks.
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Oh. maybe I didn;t make it clear enough.
two separate problems.
1: The phone won't wake up or respond to the "OK google" command unless I restart the phone
2: Like you said, I can only dictate a few words before it stops taking dictation.
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What confused me when you said Google Voice doesn't work. Google Voice is a Google phone number and an app. It does work. My wife and I use Google Voice daily since 2012. I keep Google Voice app on my main screen.
At first I read, looking for the alleged Google Voice problem, then I realized you really meant dictation, voice-to-text.
It's been like 5 days since I was able to say ok Google with screen off, call ( name here) and the phone would unlock and dial the number, regardless if it was a contact or not.
Now I say ok Google call ( name here) and either the assistant will not respond after opening to make the call, or it goes open and it shows example,
Call circles pizzeria
But it never makes the call.
Now if I using my fingerprint to unlock the device, say ok Google call circles pizzeria, it will make the call.
Want to note, this is not a contact. Also don't matter if it's a contact or not. I've showed 2 examples of ok Google getting "stuck" on the commands.
I've factory reset the device. I'm thinking this has to be on Google's end. Just want to know if anyone else is affected.
So 19 views, and no one quick tested their own device? Gee thanks....
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I don't use Assistant at all (in fact I struggle to keep it disabled on my phone, and Google tries to enable it all the time). So I am one those views, but unfortunately have no experience.
Which OS version are you on? That might affect the results of others who try it.
Does it matter if you're in a Smart Lock situation (Trusted location, Trusted BT device etc)?
Just tested mine. My Google Home took the initiative of making the call, and gave me some tips on my first call that way. This was while my phone was in my hand, too, so I'm not sure why the GH took over, but whatever. In the end, it did dial out... or try to, before I told it to hang up.
Not exactly your situation, so I didn't respond. Mine has nothing to do with unlocking the screen, as I keep my screen unlocked and on Navigation app while driving.
But here's my story...
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A few months ago, new Google app update stopped Google Assistant from making the daily phone calls to my wife when I'm coming home from work. (I never know what time I can leave.)
"OK, Google, call (my wife's name)"
Normally automatically dials via Bluetooth through Google Voice.
This time nada, repeatedly -- from trying to show me search results, to not responding at all.
Even tried "OK, Google, call my wife" (instead of her name). Google Assistant: "Who is your wife?" (She's listed in Contacts as my wife, besides her full name.)
Suddenly Google Assistant wasn't performing as previously and also had amnesia.
This happened two days in a row. I had to manually hit a pinned dialer screen shortcut to call my wife while driving home. (Which is technically against the law now in Georgia, touching your phone while driving.)
So, I reverted back to the previous Google app version (downloaded through APK Mirror) -- which does exactly what I need -- and refuse to let it auto update in Google Play Store. I also have Titanium Backup of that specific version on hold, in case Google accidentally updates somehow.
I know I'm now a few months behind in app versions, but I don't have time to mess with trouble shooting. If the version I have works, I'm keeping it.
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I have half a dozen apps I also keep from auto updating for similar reasons.
For instance, because of newly imposed Google rules about a year ago, an long time app called My Data Manager has to put an icon on the left side status bar to show it's technically running in the background. On previous versions you could disable that stupid icon or "badge" in the app settings. It's a neat app, because I can merely swipe down and at the bottom of my notifications, there's a pinned box that shows my current data usage. And it's quite accurate. Every time I compare it to my carrier's report of my data usage it's within a few MB.
But I do NOT want to see a CONSTANT icon on my left side status bar for that app. So, I reverted to older version before the Google rules change and it works EXACTLY the way I wish. I unticked "auto update". I've done that for my phone, my wife's and my mom's.
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I just finished working one month straight, with no days off. Feb 15 - March 13, often 12-14 hour days. In one two week stretch, I worked over 160 hours (4 weeks of work, crammed into 2 weeks.)
So, I'm not putting up with any crap from my phone.
If new app version breaks something, I'm reverting to previous app version and preventing it from updating. At some unknown point in time, if I want to test they've finally fixed what they broke, I will do that when I have free time. Other than that, I need my daily phone to work, period.
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What version of the G app are you on?
Also on EdXposed, or regular Xposed grab sudohide.
You can hide any app from play store.
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What version of the G app are you on?
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