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Hi, I've never used a Chinese handset before. I normally go for the iphones for their smoothness or the Galaxy series, but lately I've been wanting to get a Mate 20 Pro. Would you or would you not recommend it over a Note 9? I heard the EMUI in general, is lacking behind Samsung's One UI and feels "outdated", and there are small issues here and there with notifications and things generally not being as smooth as the iphones or galaxy counterpart.
I WILL be rooting and using a custom ROM if that helps at all, but what I'm looking for is:
- Great camera
- Great selfie-camera
- Great battery life
- Superfast device unlock (whether in display fingerprint or 3d face scan). I usually use the fingerprint scanner on my Note 9
- Smooth and intuitive UI, preferably with nice features like those on the OnePlus series
- I don't care about the speaker sound, since I use bluetooth headsets 99% of the time
- No major bugs or freezing etc...
TIA,
JC
Mate 20 pro no doubt.
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Having wned both the only advantage of the mate is the camera. Everything else is significantly worse
ca12bon said:
Hi, I've never used a Chinese handset before. I normally go for the iphones for their smoothness or the Galaxy series, but lately I've been wanting to get a Mate 20 Pro. Would you or would you not recommend it over a Note 9? I heard the EMUI in general, is lacking behind Samsung's One UI and feels "outdated", and there are small issues here and there with notifications and things generally not being as smooth as the iphones or galaxy counterpart.
I WILL be rooting and using a custom ROM if that helps at all, but what I'm looking for is:
- Great camera
- Great selfie-camera
- Great battery life
- Superfast device unlock (whether in display fingerprint or 3d face scan). I usually use the fingerprint scanner on my Note 9
- Smooth and intuitive UI, preferably with nice features like those on the OnePlus series
- I don't care about the speaker sound, since I use bluetooth headsets 99% of the time
- No major bugs or freezing etc...
TIA,
JC
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If you really want to root, forget about the Mate 20 Pro, it's almost impossible to unlock the bootloader.
Unlock codes are only available for a short time and cost around $50
I've got both but my sim mainly stays in the mate for the camera and battery.
Handing a htc u11 before and now switching to m20p,I must say that m20p is so amazing with its camera, smoothness,and so many convenient functions such as ir remote and so on
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i have both, and both is rooted, BUT forget rooting mate 20 pro since it's impossible getting new bootloder unlock codes.
the sim almost always stays in my mate 20 pro, but there are som things that's annoying on the mate, one thing is the fingerprint sensor, another thing is the update frequency. i only use the root to get new updates.
I got my BL unlocked for $20
any one can tell me how to install miui 11 gsi on mi a3?
deadheart420 said:
any one can tell me how to install miui 11 gsi on mi a3?
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aslo badly need miui on my mi a3
It is literally known as meme-ui the whole Android community gives out about it, it is a meme for how bad it is.
Your better off going with an aosp rom as your privacy and data will be safe, Android one just gives it all to Google aswel.
Read up about these things first don't just go blindly flashing stuff coz it's "cool".
Plus it's a lot heavier than an aosp rom which will eat ram and battery on the device and probably result in a decrease in performance.
What is the reasoning behind wanting miui so much? Just out of curiosity.
Is there any way to install gsi on mi a3? tried to install resurrection remix through fastboot in "A" slot (fastboot flash system system.img) but phone doesn't boot.
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It is literally known as meme-ui the whole Android community gives out about it, it is a meme for how bad it is.
Your better off going with an aosp rom as your privacy and data will be safe, Android one just gives it all to Google aswel.
Read up about these things first don't just go blindly flashing stuff coz it's "cool".
Plus it's a lot heavier than an aosp rom which will eat ram and battery on the device and probably result in a decrease in performance.
What is the reasoning behind wanting miui so much? Just out of curiosity.
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i am using miui from very first of my phone. and after buying mi a3 i just stuck into minimal feature of android one .. also i need to get back app locker, privacy locker, screen recoder with internal audio, real full screen gesture dark mode and many mode without using any 3rd party app
Why did you buy the A3 in the first place? CC9e is identical in specs but with MIUI, I'd buy this phone because of Android One like the most of us.
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Why did you buy the A3 in the first place? CC9e is identical in specs but with MIUI, I'd buy this phone because of Android One like the most of us.
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moreover, CC9e has FullHD+ 1080p screen, unlike A3.
3 yars since A1 was released, and people are still buying Android One devices to install miui there...
ne_toy said:
3 yars since A1 was released, and people are still buying Android One devices to install miui there...
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???? Lol
ne_toy said:
moreover, CC9e has FullHD+ 1080p screen, unlike A3.
3 yars since A1 was released, and people are still buying Android One devices to install miui there...
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nope the cc9e is also 720p. the cc9 is indeed fhd (aka mi 9 lite)
yes, such a shame... and makes no sense, the android one support does add to the price the phones so why... is a big mistery for me too... not to mention variety, there's countkess more miui phones to choose from
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It is literally known as meme-ui the whole Android community gives out about it, it is a meme for how bad it is.
Your better off going with an aosp rom as your privacy and data will be safe, Android one just gives it all to Google aswel.
Read up about these things first don't just go blindly flashing stuff coz it's "cool".
Plus it's a lot heavier than an aosp rom which will eat ram and battery on the device and probably result in a decrease in performance.
What is the reasoning behind wanting miui so much? Just out of curiosity.
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What you are saying used to be true.
I hated Miui when I first tried it in 2017. Recent Global versions of Miui is fantastic, I prefer using the customized Xiaomi/EU rom.
AOSP has its merits, but the Xiaomi Meme thing is honestly outdated and frankly silly.
and after so many jokes and history classes, and explanations of the boy who works at bestbuy, is there any way to use MIUI in the A3?
deadheart020 said:
i am using miui from very first of my phone. and after buying mi a3 i just stuck into minimal feature of android one .. also i need to get back app locker, privacy locker, screen recoder with internal audio, real full screen gesture dark mode and many mode without using any 3rd party app
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...Second space
Record calls (without using any 3rd party app)
etc, etc, etc
What's so bad on using 3rd party apps to have those feature? I for one have zero interest in call recorder, screen recorder, app lock, second space or any of the MIUI apps and I'm glad that these, for me useless apps are not part of the system. That's why I always choose clean Android. If you know that you need such features, well, buy a phone with MIUI..? Even if you somehow manage to boot MIUI on A3, it won't support OTA updates and most probably some of the essential features won't work (e.g. FP sensor).
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What's so bad on using 3rd party apps to have those feature? I for one have zero interest in call recorder, screen recorder, app lock, second space or any of the MIUI apps and I'm glad that these, for me useless apps are not part of the system. That's why I always choose clean Android. If you know that you need such features, well, buy a phone with MIUI..? Even if you somehow manage to boot MIUI on A3, it won't support OTA updates and most probably some of the essential features won't work (e.g. FP sensor).
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If Mi CC9e had a global MIUI (not English / Chinese only), there would be no such conversation. But since there are a lot of people who like MIUI more than Android Stock, there are a lot of people looking for MIUI for the Mi A3!
jo2006 said:
If Mi CC9e had a global MIUI (not English / Chinese only), there would be no such conversation. But since there are a lot of people who like MIUI more than Android Stock, there are a lot of people looking for MIUI for the Mi A3!
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Xiaomi has 4 phones with Android One and at least 20 with MIUI. A3 is nothing special (except the Android One program), why on Earth would you choose it over any other phone with fully supported MIUI out of the box? Just to complain that you miss things which are deliberately not present?
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...A3 is nothing special ...
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A3 is nothing special? Tell me one smartphone with a screen less than 6 inches (for me very important) and a decent battery (over 4000 mAh). In addition it has a good / excellent camera.
jo2006 said:
A3 is nothing special? Tell me one smartphone with a screen less than 6 inches (for me very important) and a decent battery (over 4000 mAh). In addition it has a good / excellent camera.
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I am not familiar with MIUI phones as I find zero interest in them. If there is no such phone, I guess you need to make a compromise somewhere.
Most recent phones have excellent camera with gcam mod.
Guys, MIUI has its benefits, but stock android is not that bad either. I just love stock android.
But it seems many people are regretting buying this phone. Maybe someone will port MIUI for A3 someday, meanwhile you can follow the video shared by @ozankardes, it looks promising. The video is not in English, but I guess you can pickup the important bits easily. Good luck!
I tried the MIUI ROM in the video. it work.
ROM belongs to MI CC9e. Only 2 languages. English & Chinese. You can use morelocale2.
-No Google apps.
-Auto brightness is not stable.
-Fingerprints don't work.
Everything works except what those.
I tried a few more A/B GSI roms (Flyme 8, MIUI 11). None of them worked. Maybe only will work GSI A roms I don't know. We need to do more trials.
interested in buying the Redmi Note 10. but, then heard bout the issues with the phone with regards to the touch, display etc....
not very sure if I should still be buying this phone, so looking for some input from you guys here who already own it & are here for the ROM's.
will mostly switch to Custom ROM if I buy it.
1) are these issues related to the software or hardware when it comes to the default factory ROM shipped with the phone?
2) are any/all of the issues resolved after installing the available Custom ROM's?
3) is there anything else I should know about or consider before buying this phone?
any input from you guys will be highly appreciated & help decide my phone purchase, ty
I have the redmi note 10, 4 - 128 version running stock MIUI, 12.0.7 , and don't see any problem related to hardware, sometimes the software don't feel smooth but I think is optimization issue. I read about the screen problem in Pro version due to high refresh rate, but is a software issue too...
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I have the redmi note 10, 4 - 128 version running stock MIUI, 12.0.7 , and don't see any problem related to hardware, sometimes the software don't feel smooth but I think is optimization issue. I read about the screen problem in Pro version due to high refresh rate, but is a software issue too...
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so, its safe to buy any of these from redmi note 10 series & use a custom rom?
malcolm_cg said:
so, its safe to buy any of these from redmi note 10 series & use a custom rom?
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I think yes, of course it depends of how much money you want spend, in my case the RN 10, is the better option compared with the Samsung and others available in my country.. the screen and dual speaker are the main features for me...
I have NT10 and it have a great hardware and also miui version doen't have any problems with it.
Minor issues on the RN10 such as 10-second AOD timeout but nothing you cannot live with.
Serjustus said:
Minor issues on the RN10 such as 10-second AOD timeout but nothing you cannot live with.
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That can be changed in settings
shezy14 said:
That can be changed in settings
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The custom roms have a major deal breaking bug with video recording. Even with Gcam the video recording doesn't record sound. Quick restart fixes it but after awhile it goes to same state. Don't know how long will it take for the developers to fix this major bug .
If you don't record much videos, maybe it won't bother you.
Other bugs in custom roms are minor and varying with each rom. But, there aren't anything serious like mentioned above.
If you don't like MIUI then custom rom is the way to go. And, custom rom solves almost all of the shortcomings and annoyances of MIUI. I don't like MIUI so much that even with video bug, I am using Pixel Plus Experience ROM.
Serjustus said:
Minor issues on the RN10 such as 10-second AOD timeout but nothing you cannot live with.
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There's a Magisk module "MIUI AOD Fix for Mi 10 Lite 5G (monet) (xiaomi.eu) v1.1 by SantiagoG242".
It bypasses this stupid limitation (hope they fix it soon)
I have been using my oneplus 7t pro McLaren for 3 years now. I brought from AliExpress at the time of release. So i changed the chinese rom to global. After android 11 update the fingerprint doesn't work. It work for a few hours after a format or readding fingerprint. But then after some time it doesn't recognise the fingerprint. The intresting thing is that it work perfectly in custom roms but not in stock. There is threads about this in oneplus community but there is no latest updates. I was wondering is there anyone experiencing the same issue or am i the only one?
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I have been using my oneplus 7t pro McLaren for 3 years now. I brought from AliExpress at the time of release. So i changed the chinese rom to global. After android 11 update the fingerprint doesn't work. It work for a few hours after a format or readding fingerprint. But then after some time it doesn't recognise the fingerprint. The intresting thing is that it work perfectly in custom roms but not in stock. There is threads about this in oneplus community but there is no latest updates. I was wondering is there anyone experiencing the same issue or am i the only one?
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Honestly, I would just stick with custom ROMs because it doesn't have your fingerprint issue and because they are updated more regularly than oxygen, plus they are just better in general. But to answer your question, no I don't have your problem, I have the regular Oneplus 7T Pro.
fanticgamerw633 said:
Honestly, I would just stick with custom ROMs because it doesn't have your fingerprint issue and because they are updated more regularly than oxygen, plus they are just better in general. But to answer your question, no I don't have your problem, I have the regular Oneplus 7T Pro.
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The only reason i am using stock rom is because of the poor camera quality in custom roms
What Custom ROM you're using.?
I tried a lot of ROM, and the fingerprint didn't work again
op7t pro Regular
What are your thoughts on the device os? Do you think it is good overall and offers good performance and stability? Or would it be better to use a custom rom with it?
I am happy with the global rom, except for a few areas.
1. USB C to 3.5mm adapter is quiet, fixed with a command (need root)
2. Camera's autofocus is bad in some scenarios
The CN rom is filled with the worst kind of bloatware. Every app wants to track your usage, including the realme UI apps. If I remember it correctly, even calculator or some other most basic app requested permissions
Despite global Rom being cleaner, there were still a few bloatware apps that I had to remove like HeyTap Cloud or Quick Device Connect among others.
So to answer your question, stock Rom is good enough but needs a bit of tweaking.
I hope the eu rom is the same as the global rom, but to summarize, the stock rom is good if you can tweak it with root. Am I right?
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What are your thoughts on the device os? Do you think it is good overall and offers good performance and stability? Or would it be better to use a custom rom with it?
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Love it.
Iam ex-MIUI user, since 2017 (Redmi 4x, Redmi 5, Mi Mix 2, Mix 2s, Mi 8, Mi 9, Mi 10,...) , started with MIUI 7 or 8 global (i guess), later custom MIUIos roms (EU project, without bloatware, better optimization, different ram management, etc), and this is my first phone without MIUI. I was very worried, but for nothing.
I have EU non-root version, bloatware and google apps - done in 5 minutes without complications, OS is fast, pure, without bugs and any similar problems (team MIUI knows...), after month iam very satisfied.
Consider your use case and the budget. I just browse web and instant message 80% of the time.
Realme seems to be good with OTA updates although Global/EU versions get much slower rollout.
Hardware specs are great.
OS is good, and Global/EU ROM is the closest to stock Google experience.
The conclusion is that the hardware is not the limitation, so all the power is in the user hands.
If you want something that works just right out of the box and has greater community support with comparable specs, you'd probably have to look at Galaxy S22 at twice the price or others.
Other good contender is Realme GT Neo 3. Minor trade-offs here and there.
Or if you only care about camera, Realme 9 Pro+ could be a good option too.
All above have IMX766 camera sensor, same as GT 2 Pro.
If you are looking at GT 2 Pro, consider getting CN version and flashing Global.
Quake94 said:
Consider your use case and the budget. I just browse web and instant message 80% of the time.
Realme seems to be good with OTA updates although Global/EU versions get much slower rollout.
Hardware specs are great.
OS is good, and Global/EU ROM is the closest to stock Google experience.
The conclusion is that the hardware is not the limitation, so all the power is in the user hands.
If you want something that works just right out of the box and has greater community support with comparable specs, you'd probably have to look at Galaxy S22 at twice the price or others.
Other good contender is Realme GT Neo 3. Minor trade-offs here and there.
Or if you only care about camera, Realme 9 Pro+ could be a good option too.
All above have IMX766 camera sensor, same as GT 2 Pro.
If you are looking at GT 2 Pro, consider getting CN version and flashing Global.
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Why should I get the cn version? If I recall I saw people getting issues when flashing it with global so I think that any version should be fine since with eu it's rootable through an exploit
CN came out much cheaper for me.
Flashing global works fine if the steps are followed carefully.
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CN came out much cheaper for me.
Flashing global works fine if the steps are followed carefully.
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But if I got EU instead, it should be ok to leave it as is and use an exploit to root it no?
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But if I got EU instead, it should be ok to leave it as is and use an exploit to root it no?
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The exploit is only needed to unlock the bootloader. Once the bootloader is unlocked there's no difference between the various global models with regard to root.