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Right now I have a Galaxy Note 5, which has terrible battery life and slow Android updates. I'm thinking about springing for the Galaxy S7, which will no doubt improve the battery and hopefully improve in update situation, but I'm also having second thoughts about switching to camp LG (used to own an Optimus One back in the day, as well as an G Pad 8.3). Against the S7, I'll be losing multi-window, the larger battery and improved night shooting, and the elephant in the room: water resistance. I'm not trying to start a war here, it's just that I may or may not have missed some things about the G5 that could tip the scales in its favor against the S7.
i don't think that the S7 is better neither the G5 they both have positives and negatives, and you should go with the one that suits you better
numpea said:
i don't think that the S7 is better neither the G5 they both have positives and negatives, and you should go with the one that suits you better
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OK, so which one would you recommend to me? I value speed, Android updates, fast focus and shutter, and battery life. Don't really care for the lack of multiwindow in the G5, but I am a little concerned about the smaller battery, and kind of bummed LG couldn't maintain the 3000 capacity, especially because I was so impressed by the G2's battery life my dad was able to get.
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OK, so which one would you recommend to me? I value speed, Android updates, fast focus and shutter, and battery life. Don't really care for the lack of multiwindow in the G5, but I am a little concerned about the smaller battery, and kind of bummed LG couldn't maintain the 3000 capacity, especially because I was so impressed by the G2's battery life my dad was able to get.
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For the battery we have to wait at least for the first test, maybe 2800 are enough...
For sure you will have faster updates compared to Samsung one, g4 received the first marshmallow Kdz in December, and the g3 in January.
Also consider that g5 has removable battery, just buy another battery and switch when one is empty, also if I'm not wrong in the S7 is quite difficult to change battery if you have some kind of problem with it.
Another thing to consider is the quick charge, 2.0 on the S7 and 3.0 on the g5, but this one doesn't have wireless charging.
And also the camera, the s7 camera take photos in 4:3, never understood this choice xD
Killua96 said:
For the battery we have to wait at least for the first test, maybe 2800 are enough...
For sure you will have faster updates compared to Samsung one, g4 received the first marshmallow Kdz in December, and the g3 in January.
Also consider that g5 has removable battery, just buy another battery and switch when one is empty, also if I'm not wrong in the S7 is quite difficult to change battery if you have some kind of problem with it.
Another thing to consider is the quick charge, 2.0 on the S7 and 3.0 on the g5, but this one doesn't have wireless charging.
And also the camera, the s7 camera take photos in 4:3, never understood this choice xD
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2800 is not enough, and doesn't even compare to the 3600 of the S7 Edge.
QC 2.0 vs 3.0 doesn't make much difference for charging times, 3.0 just brings more efficiency to the process by allowing more voltage steps between the existing steps found in 2.0.
Most cameras shoot in 4:3 natively. Do you have proof the G5 doesn't?
Killua96 said:
For the battery we have to wait at least for the first test, maybe 2800 are enough...
For sure you will have faster updates compared to Samsung one, g4 received the first marshmallow Kdz in December, and the g3 in January.
Also consider that g5 has removable battery, just buy another battery and switch when one is empty, also if I'm not wrong in the S7 is quite difficult to change battery if you have some kind of problem with it.
Another thing to consider is the quick charge, 2.0 on the S7 and 3.0 on the g5, but this one doesn't have wireless charging.
And also the camera, the s7 camera take photos in 4:3, never understood this choice xD
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To be fair, 200 mAh won't make too much of a difference if LG can optimize it properly, and the company's also really cleaned up its update act in recent years, but I don't really care about QC 2 vs 3 and 4:3 photos.
geoff5093 said:
2800 is not enough, and doesn't even compare to the 3600 of the S7 Edge.
QC 2.0 vs 3.0 doesn't make much difference for charging times, 3.0 just brings more efficiency to the process by allowing more voltage steps between the existing steps found in 2.0.
Most cameras shoot in 4:3 natively. Do you have proof the G5 doesn't?
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Nobody ever mentioned that g5 take photo to 4:3, for S7 yes, and... What smartphone have 4:3?
Also, qc 3.0 is anyway better than 2.0, anyway not so fast compared to 2.0
For the battery yes, it can be enough, not better, S7 surely have a better battery.
Killua96 said:
Nobody ever mentioned that g5 take photo to 4:3, for S7 yes, and... What smartphone have 4:3?
Also, qc 3.0 is anyway better than 2.0, anyway not so fast compared to 2.0
For the battery yes, it can be enough, not better, S7 surely have a better battery.
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Read up on QC 2.0 vs 3.0: http://www.androidauthority.com/quick-charge-3-0-explained-643053/
One of the quotes is "one of the interesting things to note is that Qualcomm isn’t touting massive increases in charging times over version 2.0, instead the company is focusing on improved efficiency this time around."
Both QC 3.0 and 2.0 only have a max output power of 18W.
The vast majority of phones I have used take photos in 4:3, which is also what DSLR and point and shoot cameras shoot in. Recently, the iPhone 6/6s, Nexus 6P, Galaxy S7/S7 Edge, and I believe either the G2 or G3 also shot in 4:3.
G2, G3 and G4 take photos also in 16:9, even if g4 only at full resolution, so the g5 will probably do the same.
Still, qc 3.0 is better than qc 2.0 even if not faster.
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Also why the s7 edge for the battery comparison? G5 compares itself with the S7 flat, and accordin to last phonearena news s7 edge has not a god battery life as the s7 flat
OK, what
Convince me this is better than the S7
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How does one do this? Please do not have this end up being an argument between the Sammy vs LG crowd
TonyStark said:
OK, what
How does one do this? Please do not have this end up being an argument between the Sammy vs LG crowd
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As i said, i'm not trying to make it a war, it's just that I'd appreciate a slightly different perspective. Everyones going bat**** crazy over Samsung nowadays.
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Also why the s7 edge for the battery comparison? G5 compares itself with the S7 flat, and accordin to last phonearena news s7 edge has not a god battery life as the s7 flat
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G5 is size wise between the flat and edge, so either would be a good comparision.
The edge has 600 mAh largest battery then the flat, 800 mAh larger the the G5.
I'm unable to find an article showing flat battery better then edge, happen to have a link?
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G5 is size wise between the flat and edge, so either would be a good comparision.
The edge has 600 mAh largest battery then the flat, 800 mAh larger the the G5.
I'm unable to find an article showing flat battery better then edge, happen to have a link?
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Not compared to S7 flat, but to s6 edge +, sorry my fault
http://www.phonearena.com/news/The-Galaxy-S7-edge-stalls-delivers-middling-battery-longevity_id79011
Still the g5 launch price is similar to S7 flat, not edge, which cost a lot more
AB__CD said:
As i said, i'm not trying to make it a war, it's just that I'd appreciate a slightly different perspective. Everyones going bat**** crazy over Samsung nowadays.
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Sheep's are going crazy.
Man goes to the store plays a bit with each and decides.
If you say you wanna get info about the dark side of the phone you got to wait a little and visit the troubleshooting section.
Phones are like women, shows itself when you brought the thing home
Better Camera, second very wide angle camera, Quick Charge 3.0, USB Type-C, you can add premium DAC to listen music, removable battery is always good, keep a metal design.
And Better camera is real in daylight but even in low light, no yellowish tint and no smooth pictures, the G5 keeps details very well so as the color with Color Spectrum.
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G5 is size wise between the flat and edge, so either would be a good comparision.
The edge has 600 mAh largest battery then the flat, 800 mAh larger the the G5.
I'm unable to find an article showing flat battery better then edge, happen to have a link?
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Physically the G5 and S7 Edge are the same size, but Samsung managed to get a much larger screen (and much larger battery) into the same size phone.
Which one is likely to be rooted first? That would be key to making my decision if I were you.
stargate125645 said:
Which one is likely to be rooted first? That would be key to making my decision if I were you.
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I vote the iphone:cyclops:
AB__CD said:
OK, so which one would you recommend to me? I value speed, Android updates, fast focus and shutter, and battery life. Don't really care for the lack of multiwindow in the G5, but I am a little concerned about the smaller battery, and kind of bummed LG couldn't maintain the 3000 capacity, especially because I was so impressed by the G2's battery life my dad was able to get.
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Nexus 6P? :laugh:
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Which one is likely to be rooted first? That would be key to making my decision if I were you.
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Dont really care about rooting - thats something i do on older devices, as I like to keep my warranty.
I want to share my opinion pros/cons after use this device for a week. I would frankly say what is good, what is bad.
The unit i have is Xiaomi mi note 2 128gb/6gb non-global version.
cons:
color shift on curve edges, it look abit blue by eye ( when screen is display light tone - white ). This not effect with dark tone color ( It look normal from flat to edges curve )
camera it come with older build compare to mi5s which announce 2 months before mi note 2. Mi note 2 come with imx318 which release since Feb 2016 compere to mi5s come with imx378 which release on Sep 2016. Look at that gap for possible improvement make me feel abit disappoint. ( but it also has a pros from sacrifice **see in Pros**)
It doesn't come with 3D touch (T_T)
LTE bands for non-global version. Why they remove FDD B8. but mi5s have 5 bands include B8
Benchmark Performance for 128/6gb model abit disappoint. It only get around 110k-125k on antutu, 1800SC 3900MC on Geekbench. Compare to other phone with this spec even mi note 64/4gb got higher. You also can see from this link: https://www.kimovil.com/en/best-smartphones-moviles/best-smartphones-antutu-benchmark
( I think this must be a software issue, with this spec it can improve with better ROM and Kernel. Still waiting for it )
Announce on the same day with Mi mix. Which pull down the hype on mi flagship (mi note2). Cause less developer taking eyes on mi note 2 over Mi mix by comparing on both forum.
Price per performance compare to mi5s.
Pros:
Battery 4070 mAh. DAMN!!! this make no wonder using this phone through a day. Daily use, message, phone call, browse, social, take photo, Bluetooth streaming, gaming, watch youtube still get spare juice before go to bed. No need to carry power bank around.
Feeling so good on hand. Its thin with that battery size. The dual curve edge feel premium. Whole Metal build + gorilla glass.
Spec sheet. even though i talk about performance above, But with this spec hardware there is huge gap to improve by software later.
Camera. Sacrifice newer model but what we get is image stabilization @4K and higher Megapixel. wide angle front facing camera.
Sound both on speaker and headphone quite good.
Equip with all kind of connectivity even infrared.
Fast and accurate fingerprint sensor.
Conclusion:
In real world scenario, i didn't feel any lag or slow performance. It still one of the fast/best phone in the market today. Camera is good just dont read the spec sheet. Feel premium on hand. Huge battery capacity more than enough for daily use, plus quick charge. Good sound. fast fingerprint scan. Have to wait abit for custom rom and kernel. Better if you can get global version.
Benchmarking
j321123123 said:
I want to share my opinion pros/cons after use this device for a week. I would frankly say what is good, what is bad.
The unit i have is Xiaomi mi note 2 128gb/6gb non-global version.
cons:
color shift on curve edges, it look abit blue by eye ( when screen is display light tone - white ). This not effect with dark tone color ( It look normal from flat to edges curve )
camera it come with older build compare to mi5s which announce 2 months before mi note 2. Mi note 2 come with imx318 which release since Feb 2016 compere to mi5s come with imx378 which release on Sep 2016. Look at that gap for possible improvement make me feel abit disappoint. ( but it also has a pros from sacrifice **see in Pros**)
It doesn't come with 3D touch (T_T)
LTE bands for non-global version. Why they remove FDD B8. but mi5s have 5 bands include B8
Benchmark Performance for 128/6gb model abit disappoint. It only get around 110k-125k on antutu, 1800SC 3900MC on Geekbench. Compare to other phone with this spec even mi note 64/4gb got higher. You also can see from this link: https://www.kimovil.com/en/best-smartphones-moviles/best-smartphones-antutu-benchmark
( I think this must be a software issue, with this spec it can improve with better ROM and Kernel. Still waiting for it )
Announce on the same day with Mi mix. Which pull down the hype on mi flagship (mi note2). Cause less developer taking eyes on mi note 2 over Mi mix by comparing on both forum.
Price per performance compare to mi5s.
Pros:
Battery 4070 mAh. DAMN!!! this make no wonder using this phone through a day. Daily use, message, phone call, browse, social, take photo, Bluetooth streaming, gaming, watch youtube still get spare juice before go to bed. No need to carry power bank around.
Feeling so good on hand. Its thin with that battery size. The dual curve edge feel premium. Whole Metal build + gorilla glass.
Spec sheet. even though i talk about performance above, But with this spec hardware there is huge gap to improve by software later.
Camera. Sacrifice newer model but what we get is image stabilization @4K and higher Megapixel. wide angle front facing camera.
Sound both on speaker and headphone quite good.
Equip with all kind of connectivity even infrared.
Fast and accurate fingerprint sensor.
Conclusion:
In real world scenario, i didn't feel any lag or slow performance. It still one of the fast/best phone in the market today. Camera is good just dont read the spec sheet. Feel premium on hand. Huge battery capacity more than enough for daily use, plus quick charge. Good sound. fast fingerprint scan. Have to wait abit for custom rom and kernel. Better if you can get global version.
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You can't really use these benchmark test for anything serious.
Here's my results:
AnTuTu: 162571
Geekbench 4: 1840 / 4403
j321123123 said:
I want to share my opinion pros/cons after use this device for a week. I would frankly say what is good, what is bad.
The unit i have is Xiaomi mi note 2 128gb/6gb non-global version.
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Does it play x265/hevc well? (use mx player + custom codec)
This is the thing I'm looking for in my next phone.
test file: http://jell.yfish.us/media/jellyfish-250-mbps-4k-uhd-hevc-10bit.mkv
from http://jell.yfish.us/
My Nvidia Shield TV & Google Pixel C play this with zero effort (both have the Nvidia Tegra X1 chip)
SoreGums said:
Does it play x265/hevc well? (use mx player + custom codec)
This is the thing I'm looking for in my next phone.
test file: http://jell.yfish.us/media/jellyfish-250-mbps-4k-uhd-hevc-10bit.mkv
from http://jell.yfish.us/
My Nvidia Shield TV & Google Pixel C play this with zero effort (both have the Nvidia Tegra X1 chip)
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SD 821 is much more powerful than tegra x1 and yes it plays 10 bit hevc videos. I have Nvidia shield TV too, ja it's good but SD 821 is faster and better.
zmajdk said:
You can't really use these benchmark test for anything serious.
Here's my results:
AnTuTu: 162571
Geekbench 4: 1840 / 4403
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Yes, I saw many 4gb mi note 2 benchmark around 145-160k. With my unit (6gb mi note 2) i expect to see better ram performance but i got even lower than 4gb model. I think with newer rom update could improve ram management on 6gb model.
But as i said on original post that real world use i didnt get any pull down performance.
Do you need to wake the phone to use the fingerprint sensor? Or is it like most phones that can be woken up and unlocked with a fingerprint scan?
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roosta said:
Do you need to wake the phone to use the fingerprint sensor? Or is it like most phones that can be woken up and unlocked with a fingerprint scan?
RoOSTA
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You have to press to the home/fingerprint sensor to wake and unlock the phone at the same time.
How is the display of the mi note 2? Many reviewers are quite disappointed by the display. I wonder how sharp it is because of 5.7" amoled screen. Pentile matrix and 1080p resolution with that screen size could be a concern for me.
I just can't decide between MI note 2 and oneplus 3t...oneplus is much much cheaper than MI note 2 in 128 GB configuration and I guess it will be available much faster than mi note 2. But I want the edge screen so badly.
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vavida said:
How is the display of the mi note 2? Many reviewers are quite disappointed by the display. I wonder how sharp it is because of 5.7" amoled screen. Pentile matrix and 1080p resolution with that screen size could be a concern for me.
I just can't decide between MI note 2 and oneplus 3t...oneplus is much much cheaper than MI note 2 in 128 GB configuration and I guess it will be available much faster than mi note 2. But I want the edge screen so badly.
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Frankly I would say that display is better then any other IPS screen in terms of color reproduction. Brightness is fine but Xiaomi 5s is brighter at max. It is not an issue for me because I keep brightness at 80%, in bright condition. Here's a bad thing I think, the screen changes to bluish tint if you look at it at angle but most noticeable if display is white. When it comes to sharpness it's fine to me but I think many people will say it's not sharp enough because they just happen to know that there are 2k displays on the other phones. They would never guessed what resolution particular displays has by just looking at it. OnePlus 3t it might be better in some aspects but personally it's looking boring to me and I would never consider one for myself. Besides I hate when camera frame is taller/higher than surface as it's case with OnePlus. The other thing you have to put in consideration is MIUI and for now there is no global firmware but I flashed Xiaomi.eu ROM and it's flawless. There are other phones in the same category like Leeco le pro 3 or vivo xplay6. Best regards
zmajdk said:
The other thing you have to put in consideration is MIUI and for now there is no global firmware but I flashed Xiaomi.eu ROM and it's flawless.
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Ihave not read this wrong, as of November, there has been a 128GB/6GB combination of the 5.7" Xiaomi Mi Note 2 with a Global ROM? Or the CN one with litterally 4 or 5 unlocked bands?
So this phone must be woken up for the finger print to work. It doesn't try reading a fingerprint tap on the button and ,must be woken up to work?
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roosta said:
Ihave not read this wrong, as of November, there has been a 128GB/6GB combination of the 5.7" Xiaomi Mi Note 2 with a Global ROM? Or the CN one with litterally 4 or 5 unlocked bands?
So this phone must be woken up for the finger print to work. It doesn't try reading a fingerprint tap on the button and ,must be woken up to work?
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That is correct, but still it's done by one touch, while yu pressing the button the fingerprint scanner is unlocking the locked screen at same time.
Mi note 2 global version is about to be realest but all my Xiaomi mi phones are compatible in my country ( Denmark) so I am not bothered.
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How is the display of the mi note 2? Many reviewers are quite disappointed by the display. I wonder how sharp it is because of 5.7" amoled screen. Pentile matrix and 1080p resolution with that screen size could be a concern for me.
I just can't decide between MI note 2 and oneplus 3t...oneplus is much much cheaper than MI note 2 in 128 GB configuration and I guess it will be available much faster than mi note 2. But I want the edge screen so badly.
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I think the word disappoint for display of mi note 2 is under expectation. Everyone who plan to buy this phone would expect to see gorgeous IPS curve display. But after you get the phone hand on and the color on the edge doesn't seem as expectation so it would be abit disappoint.
As a mi note2 user I would say first impression was abit disappointed for display. The color on curve edge seem abit blue (only on white background) and abit warm tone display (compared to 1+2 i had used before mi note2).
But after using this phone for few days you will get use to color of display. Now i didn't feel any color change on the curve edges (after get used to) but the curve edge of screen still make you feel good on hand. Normally we look directly to screen not to the curve so right now color on the curve doesn't make me feel bad otherwise curve is still curve every time you hold your phone you always feel good on hand.
Thanks for the feedback. I personally don't care about other phones 2k displays (VR is not of relevance for me at all). I'm running the redmi note 3 pro international at the moment and the display is just fantastic. I just don't want a downgrade in display quality for my next phone which will cost about 4x more than the redmi note 3. In general the note 3 pro is already the perfect phone for its price tag (except for camera quality) but I always happened to be one of the enthusiast guys and I'm very curious about the curved screen.
An other thing that bothers me is the battery life. Reviewers speak about 4-5hrs on screen time. On the note 3 you can easily get between at least 7 hrs up to 10 hrs for some ppl. The difference in screen size is just 0.2 inches and the capacity is the same.
So what is the battery life for you guys?
The camera seems to be decent but it seems that pixel and s7/edge still play in their own league tho...
BTW: is anyone using the edge functions on the mi note 2?
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vavida said:
Thanks for the feedback. I personally don't care about other phones 2k displays (VR is not of relevance for me at all). I'm running the redmi note 3 pro international at the moment and the display is just fantastic. I just don't want a downgrade in display quality for my next phone which will cost about 4x more than the redmi note 3. In general the note 3 pro is already the perfect phone for its price tag (except for camera quality) but I always happened to be one of the enthusiast guys and I'm very curious about the curved screen.
An other thing that bothers me is the battery life. Reviewers speak about 4-5hrs on screen time. On the note 3 you can easily get between at least 7 hrs up to 10 hrs for some ppl. The difference in screen size is just 0.2 inches and the capacity is the same.
So what is the battery life for you guys?
The camera seems to be decent but it seems that pixel and s7/edge still play in their own league tho...
BTW: is anyone using the edge functions on the mi note 2?
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Egde functions are only available with a theme called "minote2" and only in lockscreen.
Get it here http://en.miui.com/thread-393072-1-1.html
vavida said:
Thanks for the feedback. I personally don't care about other phones 2k displays (VR is not of relevance for me at all). I'm running the redmi note 3 pro international at the moment and the display is just fantastic. I just don't want a downgrade in display quality for my next phone which will cost about 4x more than the redmi note 3. In general the note 3 pro is already the perfect phone for its price tag (except for camera quality) but I always happened to be one of the enthusiast guys and I'm very curious about the curved screen.
An other thing that bothers me is the battery life. Reviewers speak about 4-5hrs on screen time. On the note 3 you can easily get between at least 7 hrs up to 10 hrs for some ppl. The difference in screen size is just 0.2 inches and the capacity is the same.
So what is the battery life for you guys?
The camera seems to be decent but it seems that pixel and s7/edge still play in their own league tho...
BTW: is anyone using the edge functions on the mi note 2?
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Battery life in my opinion is the best i ever used. It take me pass daily usage with 30%+,- before go to bed.
Yesterday i put phone on airplane mode during 9.30 hours flight. Mi note 2 is handle idle so well.
Note 2 flaishing xiaomi.eu rom
zmajdk said:
Frankly I would say that display is better then any other IPS screen in terms of color reproduction. Brightness is fine but Xiaomi 5s is brighter at max. It is not an issue for me because I keep brightness at 80%, in bright condition. Here's a bad thing I think, the screen changes to bluish tint if you look at it at angle but most noticeable if display is white. When it comes to sharpness it's fine to me but I think many people will say it's not sharp enough because they just happen to know that there are 2k displays on the other phones. They would never guessed what resolution particular displays has by just looking at it. OnePlus 3t it might be better in some aspects but personally it's looking boring to me and I would never consider one for myself. Besides I hate when camera frame is taller/higher than surface as it's case with OnePlus. The other thing you have to put in consideration is MIUI and for now there is no global firmware but I flashed Xiaomi.eu ROM and it's flawless. There are other phones in the same category like Leeco le pro 3 or vivo xplay6. Best regards
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I am a bit new to this. I have new note 2 with unlocked boot loader and would like to flash .eu rom. Do I need to unlock boot loader? If not too much trouble, can you provide directions on what you did to install the .eu rom?
TGUY25 said:
I am a bit new to this. I have new note 2 with unlocked boot loader and would like to flash .eu rom. Do I need to unlock boot loader? If not too much trouble, can you provide directions on what you did to install the .eu rom?
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1. Yes, bootloader must be unlocked and TWRP for Mi note 2 must be flashed at first.
2. There is a guide on xiaomi.eu site how to do it : https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/6-12-29.37056/
Hi Everyone,
I thought I'd share some thoughts on this device after having purchased it yesterday afternoon.
I bought this phone because I felt it was the first device that gave me what I had been craving for a long time - an Android version of the iPhone 6s. I like the size, build and feel of the iPhone 6s/7, but not the software or the price.
I think I am in the minority of people who prefer a smaller handset, and even though Android devices tend to fit a lot more screen real estate into smaller bodies, I still feel that the 4.7in screen size is ideal for me.
The only phones that run Android of that size have been the Xperia compact line, and the Galaxy Alpha/A3 2016 models. There have been others, but only these have come close. Unfortunately, they have suffered compromised designs and specs that have left me wanting (I have owned them all, and this is my opinion which others are free to disagree with).
This new handset, however, has me ticking a lot of boxes.
- Size is fantastic. Just a little smaller than the iPhone 6s, and feels great in the hand. Premium materials, solid build quality, great ergonomics, clicky buttons, no camera hump.
- The display is good, not awesome, but vibrant and colourful without being too over the top. Can be tweaked to each user's preference, and gets both very bright and very dim.
- fingerprint scanner is fast and accurate.
- Camera is good, not amazing. An iPhone definitely trounces this setup, but I paid £280 sim free and my usage is not too demanding so it's absolutely fine for me. Daytime shots are actually very pleasant and I think here it punches above its weight; low light is where it struggles, but I feel that most shots at night are not too important for me so it's a compromise I'll happily make.
- Call quality is very good and it holds onto signal well in my area.
- Sound quality out of the side mounted speaker is actually surprisingly good, at least as good as an iPhone 6s. Headphone performance is also excellent .
- Performance has been nothing short of excellent. I feel we have reached a point where there are not that many tasks that we do that actually need a Snapdragon 821 to run smoothly - granted, some 3d games need serious power on tap to run at their highest settings on a quad HD screen, but with a 720p screen, the A3 2017 runs pretty much anything at best quality without delay or hiccup. And everyday operation is smooth as butter without any lag or slowdowns. Granted, this is very early days, but I am hopeful this will continue.
- Battery life is astounding. I charged it on Saturday night and hit 100% at 10.20pm. I took it off charger and only put it back on at 2% while writing this review and I had nearly 9 hrs and 30mins of screen on time over 1 day and 3 hours. That includes 64 mins of voice calls. Please note that I was home all day on Wifi, but still, I have never seen times like that, not least from a 2300 odd mah battery. Awesome. It also charges pretty fast.
- Other stuff - water proofing is great, finally have USB-C, charges really quickly with the included adaptive charging brick, finally has a blue light filter.
And now for the balance of the review:
- Slippery despite its size, so a case or a skin is advisable.
- 16gb of internal memory nearly broke the deal for me, but a 64gb card and some transferring of apps has left me with 3.8gb left to play with internally. Definitely not ideal and a very cheap move from Samsung, but I'm also hoping Nougat brings adoptable storage soon which will eliminate this as an issue (here's hoping!).
- No notification light is something I have to adjust to, but the always on display does help *somewhat* ( I prefer the light as it's something that alerts me from afar, whereas the display is on regardless of whether you have a notification or not).
- Camera as described above has some shortcomings.
- Usual Samsung software compromised with bloatware - lots of useless stuff on here that eats into that 16gb that I cannot delete (Microsoft suite, Samsung junk, usual duplicate apps that we all use the Google version of). I'll keep trying the usual routes to rid the phone of this but I may have to wait a while.
Other than these points, I am really pleased. It feels nice to have paid relatively little for a device that feels so premium. I know there are other phones at relatively low prices that kill this on specs (OP3, Axon 7, Honor 8, etc) but they are generally much bigger handsets, so for anyone looking at something smaller, this is a great buy.
TL;DR, it's great, buy one if you like small phones ?
I always wanted a phone with an small amoled screen and water proofing so i jumped ship from the huge mate 8 to witch i am comparing. I agree with your pros but i found: 1-the camera is average and lacking OIS (need very stable hands), 2- cannot use sd card as default storage (very handy on mate 8), 3- phone very slippery, 4- Design and Screen of a3 2016 seemed better (personal opinion), 5- no stutter but little slow (comparing to mate 8). Only lacks IR blaster to check all boxes but we can't have everything.
Great feedback, thanks guys.
You mentioned not display is good but not awesome, could you elaborate? Is issue clarity or something else? Thanks.
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Great feedback, thanks guys.
You mentioned not display is good but not awesome, could you elaborate? Is issue clarity or something else? Thanks.
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Coming from a larger phone with a quad HD screen, it's never going to look as dazzlingly sharp, but on a 4.7 inch screen 720p still looks great and it is perfectly sharp and clear - if you've ever seen an iPhone screen, this feels much the same. Colours can be adjusted to your preference - I prefer accurate rather than punchy, but you can set it to either or somewhere in between.
I've had everything from a galaxy s6 which has crazy high pixel density to a Moto x, and personally I prefer the 720p smaller screen because it's far more efficient and I don't notice the pixel density difference after an hour or two.
Hope this helps.
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Coming from a larger phone with a quad HD screen, it's never going to look as dazzlingly sharp, but on a 4.7 inch screen 720p still looks great and it is perfectly sharp and clear - if you've ever seen an iPhone screen, this feels much the same. Colours can be adjusted to your preference - I prefer accurate rather than punchy, but you can set it to either or somewhere in between.
I've had everything from a galaxy s6 which has crazy high pixel density to a Moto x, and personally I prefer the 720p smaller screen because it's far more efficient and I don't notice the pixel density difference after an hour or two.
Hope this helps.
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Thanks!
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Thanks for sharing this. I am also very happy with this phone so far. It's my second day with it, the battery is at 39% with 4h45 sot and 1d3h total since unplugged. In a night of 9 hours, the phone just lost 3%.
I have noticed though that wifi is constantly detected as running by betterbatterysats, even if it's turned off. Any idea how to fix this?
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I have noticed though that wifi is constantly detected as running by betterbatterysats, even if it's turned off. Any idea how to fix this?
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Have you checked in Settings -> Connections -> Location?
There are some wifi settings behind it (in location method and improve accuracy) you can deactivate.
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Have you checked in Settings -> Connections -> Location?
There are some wifi settings behind it (in location method and improve accuracy) you can deactivate.
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Indeed, I didn't know. Thanks, I hope this works.
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F157 said:
Have you checked in Settings -> Connections -> Location?
There are some wifi settings behind it (in location method and improve accuracy) you can deactivate.
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Also, could you please tell me if you use other settings to improve your battery life?
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Indeed, I didn't know. Thanks, I hope this works.
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Also, could you please tell me if you use other settings to improve your battery life?
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Mm, nothing special yet, as I'm really happy with battery life so far.
What I did in the past with other devices is for example use the app greenify (needs root) to hibernate apps you don't want to run in the background.
Also, something that really helped me with my old s4 mini was to set mobile network to 2g, and only switch to lte once required.
And as always, use wifi instead of mobile network as often as possible, disable Bluetooth if not needed, etc.
£280?!?! That's highway robbery for a device with 720p, small battery and everything in budget-range. You get this, all the bells and whistles for £150 with a well known Chinese brand. Now I know why I'd never ever get a Slamsug.
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£280?!?! That's highway robbery for a device with 720p, small battery and everything in budget-range. You get this, all the bells and whistles for £150 with a well known Chinese brand. Now I know why I'd never ever get a Slamsug.
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Please could you elaborate on one of these phones that you can get for £150? I'm pretty clued up but if I've missed something I'd be keen for you to share what you've found for myself and the community - my mother needs a new phone so if you've seen something better than the A3 for less I'd love to buy it
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Please could you elaborate on one of these phones that you can get for £150? I'm pretty clued up but if I've missed something I'd be keen for you to share what you've found for myself and the community - my mother needs a new phone so if you've seen something better than the A3 for less I'd love to buy it
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Which stats are you looking for? Battery? Screen res? SoC power?
Compare, with €150 phones, battery, res, SoC, well anything really part from 10 mm in size.
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Which stats are you looking for? Battery? Screen res? SoC power?
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Well I'm referring to your comment that you could get a better phone for £150, so I guess I'm wondering what phone you are saying is better for that price...
The battery life of the A3 is epic, the PPI is still perfectly decent (720p on 4.7 inches is still perfectly usable and arguably 1080p is unnecessary) and the SoC is both fat and frugal.
So really I'm wondering whether you can get something the same or better for less money
I'd be happy with an alternative with same form factor. Any recommendations? The A3 still not available in US.
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I'd be happy with an alternative with same form factor. Any recommendations? The A3 still not available in US.
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4.5 to 4.7" screen, 720p res. 2015 - today, only 4-5 options comes up.
http://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?nYearMin=2015&nHeightMax=135&nDisplayResMin=921600&fDisplayInchesMin=4.5&fDisplayInchesMax=4.7
Only A3, Sony X and Z5 compact, Xiaomi Redmi 2 Pro has enough RAM, battery and goodies. LG Spirit and Alcatel Idol 3 only has 1 GB and 1.5 GB RAM, not really a viable option.
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Well I'm referring to your comment that you could get a better phone for £150, so I guess I'm wondering what phone you are saying is better for that price...
The battery life of the A3 is epic, the PPI is still perfectly decent (720p on 4.7 inches is still perfectly usable and arguably 1080p is unnecessary) and the SoC is both fat and frugal.
So really I'm wondering whether you can get something the same or better for less money
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The Redmi 4 Pro can be had for €150 and its battery life is Epic also, the Redmi 3 Pro is way better than A3 and Redmi 4 Pro, with 720p but alas 5". Redmi note 3 is also really good, for even less than €150. Samsung is priced at least £100 than it should, but the same can be said about Sony and Apple also.
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4.5 to 4.7" screen, 720p res. 2015 - today, only 4-5 options comes up.
http://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?nYearMin=2015&nHeightMax=135&nDisplayResMin=921600&fDisplayInchesMin=4.5&fDisplayInchesMax=4.7
Only A3, Sony X and Z5 compact, Xiaomi Redmi 2 Pro has enough RAM, battery and goodies. LG Spirit and Alcatel Idol 3 only has 1 GB and 1.5 GB RAM, not really a viable option.
The Redmi 4 Pro can be had for €150 and its battery life is Epic also, the Redmi 3 Pro is way better than A3 and Redmi 4 Pro, with 720p but alas 5". Redmi note 3 is also really good, for even less than €150. Samsung is priced at least £100 than it should, but the same can be said about Sony and Apple also.
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I agree the Xiaomi phones are compelling - my main issue is the fact that they are all grey imports - many purchasers have reported that they do not get any warranty support whatsoever, they generally require a more experienced android user to side load the Google play store, and they have sketchy android skins which have also been reported to spy on their users.
Don't get me wrong, Touchwiz (or Grace UI as it's now known) is not exactly great, but I'd rather know I can walk into a Samsung store and get a problem fixed than rely on a Hong Kong based website for support.
I think it's only fair to compare this phone to what can be had in Europe, and in that regard, it blows the Sony X Compact, Alcatel and others out of the water.
And given its build quality and design, it's good value compared to phones that retail for double this cost.
Also, most Xiaomi phones don't come with NFC (no android pay), some don't have scratch resistant glass, no quick charging, etc
The A3 also uses a processor built on the 14nm process which is up to date technology, whereas the Xiaomi phones at that price point use outdated processors like the 650 and 616.
The 14nm process is what gives the A3 it's great battery life without needing a 4000mAh battery and heavier construction.
A final point - check out the videos of the Redmi note 3 bend test - not encouraging! (I will add the Redmi 3 pro did significantly better though which is good progress).
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I agree the Xiaomi phones are compelling - my main issue is the fact that they are all grey imports - many purchasers have reported that they do not get any warranty support whatsoever, they generally require a more experienced android user to side load the Google play store, and they have sketchy android skins which have also been reported to spy on their users.
Don't get me wrong, Touchwiz (or Grace UI as it's now known) is not exactly great, but I'd rather know I can walk into a Samsung store and get a problem fixed than rely on a Hong Kong based website for support.
I think it's only fair to compare this phone to what can be had in Europe, and in that regard, it blows the Sony X Compact, Alcatel and others out of the water.
And given its build quality and design, it's good value compared to phones that retail for double this cost.
Also, most Xiaomi phones don't come with NFC (no android pay), some don't have scratch resistant glass, no quick charging, etc
The A3 also uses a processor built on the 14nm process which is up to date technology, whereas the Xiaomi phones at that price point use outdated processors like the 650 and 616.
The 14nm process is what gives the A3 it's great battery life without needing a 4000mAh battery and heavier construction.
A final point - check out the videos of the Redmi note 3 bend test - not encouraging! (I will add the Redmi 3 pro did significantly better though which is good progress).
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The Redmi 4 Pro that I bought for a friend in Jan has the 14 nm Snapdragon 625. I can agree that it might lack a few finishing touches, but I could buy it for €150 inc shipping from aliexpress and get it in 7-9 days. But it's half the price, and I know the Adreno is a better GPU than the Mali.
Both on the Xiaomi and the Slamsug, first thing I would do it TWRP and LAOS ROM, they can keep their crap TW and MIUI, can't stand it.
Never the less, it shouldn't be 2x the price for something that is almost inferior in some points and better on others. Esp not in 2017, maybe some years ago, but every day there are better and better phones for under €200, like the Moto G5 and such, only problem is they are so damn big, and big phones are 99/100 new that are coming out, these days, sadly.
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The Redmi 4 Pro that I bought for a friend in Jan has the 14 nm Snapdragon 625. I can agree that it might lack a few finishing touches, but I could buy it for €150 inc shipping from aliexpress and get it in 7-9 days. But it's half the price, and I know the Adreno is a better GPU than the Mali.
Both on the Xiaomi and the Slamsug, first thing I would do it TWRP and LAOS ROM, they can keep their crap TW and MIUI, can't stand it.
Never the less, it shouldn't be 2x the price for something that is almost inferior in some points and better on others. Esp not in 2017, maybe some years ago, but every day there are better and better phones for under €200, like the Moto G5 and such, only problem is they are so damn big, and big phones are 99/100 new that are coming out, these days, sadly.
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Can't disagree there - it's frustrating how few phones there are under 5 inches available.
I will say though that besides the Xiaomi phones which look to have a nice build, the Moto G4 is very cheap feeling, as are most of the other phones available here in that price bracket, so I would happily pay a little more for a nice looking and premium feeling device.
If the Samsung we're £220 I think it'd sell by the bucket load as £20-40 above phones like the G4 would likely tempt many up, but at £280 I agree that it's a harder sell for the lay person.
I'm looking at from the other side - it's a mild compromise from an S7 or a iPhone 6s/7 , but it's half the price, rather than double that of a cheaper device.
And it absolutely looks and feels as good as a £5-600 phone.
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Can't disagree there - it's frustrating how few phones there are under 5 inches available.
I will say though that besides the Xiaomi phones which look to have a nice build, the Moto G4 is very cheap feeling, as are most of the other phones available here in that price bracket, so I would happily pay a little more for a nice looking and premium feeling device.
If the Samsung we're £220 I think it'd sell by the bucket load as £20-40 above phones like the G4 would likely tempt many up, but at £280 I agree that it's a harder sell for the lay person.
I'm looking at from the other side - it's a mild compromise from an S7 or a iPhone 6s/7 , but it's half the price, rather than double that of a cheaper device.
And it absolutely looks and feels as good as a £5-600 phone.
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There are so many on this forum and in other places that airs the same frustration, so few options for a mobile ca 130mm lenght and 4.5 - 4.7" screen (720p at least), that I'm starting to wonder if we should do something about it, maybe talk to so manufacturer to make at least 1-2 phones under 5"
The Redmi 4 Pro I used for a few weeks felt no worse in build than the Iphone 6 or 6S I have tried a few times, both in metal around 140 - 145mm size. But for €310 I can get a Xiaomi Mi 5 with 820 and have €100 in change over. I have never held a Moto G, last Motorola I have tried was the 4.3" Razr Maxx and it felt solid as a rock.
The J5 goes for around €180-190 here and I see no reason why this smaller, entry level A3 shouldn't be priced in a similar fashion. These days due to deaths in the family and such I'm so poor that €100 is more than I can spare and my Android mobile that I have now is from 2012 or so, single core with 512 MB RAM and I hate every minute when I'm using it. I'm lucky to have been given a 2009 Sony Ericsson C901 as my main caller.
Just my 1¢ (It used to be 2¢, but due to the recession I've had to make cutbacks)
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What annoys me a lot is also that this A3 is bigger than the A3 (2016) and the battery is only 50 mAh bigger. They could easily have put a 2500 - 2800 mAh battery in this one, just like the Sony Z3, Z5 or X compact, which is 5 mm smaller.
My last perfect phone was the original moto x. I still use it. I am not a power user but the X just needs lil more power but on cm13 it's not bad.
I don't even mind going with old phone as long as has some custom roms to improve performance.
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I am on a nexus 5, fed up with slow Oreo and low battery and no Volte. How is this device comaped to N5? I will use a custom ROM like PE or LOS, so how is
1)Camera
2) Battery
3) Performance
Compared to nexus 5?
Did anyone updgrade from nexus 5? What is your opinion?
I am eyeing this device since it has official LOS.
Also, is there much difference while playing a game or casual use between SD800,625? Unable to decide between Lenovo Z2 plus and this device.
I will be getting the Snapdragon variant in my market
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I am on a nexus 5, fed up with slow Oreo and low battery and no Volte. How is this device comaped to N5? I will use a custom ROM like PE or LOS, so how is
1)Camera
2) Battery
3) Performance
Compared to nexus 5?
Did anyone updgrade from nexus 5? What is your opinion?
I am eyeing this device since it has official LOS.
Also, is there much difference while playing a game or casual use between SD800,625? Unable to decide between Lenovo Z2 plus and this device.
I will be getting the Snapdragon variant in my market
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SD800 is slightly faster looking purely at performance but it heats up pretty quickly and is not very battery efficient (28nm. manufacturing process)
SD625 is amazing when it comes to battery because it's 14nm manufacturing process so the heat is much lower, it's incredibly power efficient and consumes way less battery and generally does not overheat.. it scores about 15k lower in Antutu which is still pretty good.
Camera in Redmi Note 4 is mediocre, Nexus 5 wins here.. especially stock. Homever there are camera mods which help to increase quality, like ported Google Cam with working HDR+.
Battery Redmi Note 4 will destroy Nexus 5, you will be getting atleast twice better battery life compared between the 2. (like i mentioned earlier it's due to the super power efficient SD625 and 14nm manufacturing process but also pretty big battery - 4100mAh)
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In thread title you are talking about Nexus 5 but in post you are talking about Lenovo Z2 Plus.. make up your mind, and yeah Lenovo Z2 Plus is much better than both Nexus 5 and Redmi Note 4.
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SD800 is slightly faster looking purely at performance but it heats up pretty quickly and is not very battery efficient (28nm. manufacturing process)
SD625 is amazing when it comes to battery because it's 14nm manufacturing process so the heat is much lower, it's incredibly power efficient and consumes way less battery and generally does not overheat.. it scores about 15k lower in Antutu which is still pretty good.
Camera in Redmi Note 4 is mediocre, Nexus 5 wins here.. especially stock. Homever there are camera mods which help to increase quality, like ported Google Cam with working HDR+.
Battery Redmi Note 4 will destroy Nexus 5, you will be getting atleast twice better battery life compared between the 2. (like i mentioned earlier it's due to the super power efficient SD625 and 14nm manufacturing process but also pretty big battery - 4100mAh)
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In thread title you are talking about Nexus 5 but in post you are talking about Lenovo Z2 Plus.. make up your mind, and yeah Lenovo Z2 Plus is much better than both Nexus 5 and Redmi Note 4.
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I am comparing nexus 5 and redmi note 4, if both are not good then Z2 plus....
Also, with HDR+ how is this camera?
GopalKaul said:
I am comparing nexus 5 and redmi note 4, if both are not good then Z2 plus....
Also, with HDR+ how is this camera?
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It's decent but only in day light, night and low light pics are pretty bad, same goes for videos which additionally have some issues with LOUD sound, like in concerts. Just Google it, you should find samples easily.
Generally if you use camera alot I would not recommend Redmi Note 4.
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It's decent but only in day light, night and low light pics are pretty bad, same goes for videos which additionally have some issues with LOUD sound, like in concerts. Just Google it, you should find samples easily.
Generally if you use camera alot I would not recommend Redmi Note 4.
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Nexus 5 has a pretty bad camera too?. If it at par with nexus 5 , great! Else , bummer...
Hi, I have both. I actually upgraded from Nexus 5 (still have it, but with cracked sceen). The battery life can not be compared as the Nexus has very bad and the Note 4 has excellent. The camera middle range both (for me enough). My Note has 4G RAM, so the performance is better (newer phone anyway). The screen is also same category. The grip of the Nexus is way much better, than the very slippery Xiao. I really like my Nexus, that´s why I have it for like 3,5 years already, but dated a bit. The Note is 1 month old and I´m satisfied with it.
Sorry for the bad quality pic, but if you wanna compare the size it´s ok. The Note is somewhat larger and heavier.
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Hi, I have both. I actually upgraded from Nexus 5 (still have it, but with cracked sceen). The battery life can not be compared as the Nexus has very bad and the Note 4 has excellent. The camera middle range both (for me enough). My Note has 4G RAM, so the performance is better (newer phone anyway). The screen is also same category. The grip of the Nexus is way much better, than the very slippery Xiao. I really like my Nexus, that´s why I have it for like 3,5 years already, but dated a bit. The Note is 1 month old and I´m satisfied with it.
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You ever used moto g5 plus or Zuk Z2?
I had Nexus 5,Galaxy S6, HTC 10, Axon 7, Huawei P9 and now I "downgraded" to a Redmi Note 4 .
Battery life is awesome. I trip alot and I'm the only one in my group that dosen't carry a battery pack.
Performance is awesome. Yes,for like 15-20 minutes any Snapdragon 805+(805,810,808,820) is faster but the Snapdragon 625 dosen't throttle. In games it's solid as a rock. It's a little laggy in facebook but I don't mind.
Camera is ok. I have a Redmi Note 4 with a Samsung sensor. I have a pretty expansive DSLR if I want more but I never need more in a normal day. The dual flash is strong.
Screen is pretty meh. I have a Tianma pannel and after 4 months of usage I have 6-7 stuck pixels . I don't really mind as I don't really see them in day to day basis . It's not a great screen it's not a bad screen.
I'd buy the Note 4 if I were you.
I wouldn't buy a G5 plus if I were you. Moto delivered it with a 32 bit ROM. Yeah,you'll find 64bit ROMs on XDA but it's laggy,buggy and it will be for a while.
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No, unfortunately. Can´t compare them.
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Robert- said:
I had Nexus 5,Galaxy S6, HTC 10, Axon 7, Huawei P9 and now I "downgraded" to a Redmi Note 4 .
Battery life is awesome. I trip alot and I'm the only one in my group that dosen't carry a battery pack.
Performance is awesome. Yes,for like 15-20 minutes any Snapdragon 805+(805,810,808,820) is faster but the Snapdragon 625 dosen't throttle. In games it's solid as a rock. It's a little laggy in facebook but I don't mind.
Camera is ok. I have a Redmi Note 4 with a Samsung sensor. I have a pretty expansive DSLR if I want more but I never need more in a normal day. The dual flash is strong.
Screen is pretty meh. I have a Tianma pannel and after 4 months of usage I have 6-7 stuck pixels . I don't really mind as I don't really see them in day to day basis . It's not a great screen it's not a bad screen.
I'd buy the Note 4 if I were you.
I wouldn't buy a G5 plus if I were you. Moto delivered it with a 32 bit ROM. Yeah,you'll find 64bit ROMs on XDA but it's laggy,buggy and it will be for a while.
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Used zuk z2 plus and redmi note 4 both... Zuk z2 heats too much.. Their ui is not good and battery life also low.... Go for redmi note 4
Either way, you'll be disappointed at some point. Nexus is nexus, nothing can replace that. You will be amazed with battery life but that's pretty much only thing this phone gives. I hate this phone , crappiest phone I've ever had. Run away from Chinese phones.
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Battery life is awesome. The camera is mediocre (with Samsung or Sony sensor). With Omnivision sensor, the camera can be quite poor. If you are really into great photography, this is not the phone for you.
For me, the only slight disappointment is the lack of 120Hz at the highest resolution. I heard conflicting rumors on that, and I was hoping things would end up the other way. But not a huge deal, really.
Everything else was what I'd hoped! Got the + version of the snapdragon, price was reasonable for what it is, pre-order deals are sweet enough to entice me, new s-pen features look exciting, it got the new Gorilla Glass I hoped for, it's for every hardware spec I could want (maybe 5000 mAh battery would be cooler, but whatever, battery life is plenty with the past devices for me), beautiful finishes (the matte bronze... Awesome... But why does the Ultra not get that sweet green variety??), amazingly low response time on s-pen, integration with Windows/Microsoft/Xbox, phenomenal camera specs (I don't need 100 times meaningless digital zoom), got the laser autofocus thing to help speed up focusing... This thing is perfect, basically.
If I could build the perfect phone, it'd be this one with an IR blaster, fingerprint scanner on the back (or improved in-screen), camera under screen instead of punchout, slightly larger battery, and 256GB base storage. Maybe 16GB of RAM just to be ridiculous. MAYBE a slightly higher optical zoom. But now I'm just being picky. This is as close to perfect as I've seen a phone be in my lifetime.
Same here. [email protected] Hope they enable it (if it's capable) with an update. Seeing the S20 has not gotten it, I'm not holding my breath. Odd that that specific item took away all the excitement I had for this device.
You honestly can't notice a difference when you change resolutions. I looks good and feels really snappy either way. I've been using it for 3 weeks now and its been just fine for me.
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Same here. [email protected] Hope they enable it (if it's capable) with an update. Seeing the S20 has not gotten it, I'm not holding my breath. Odd that that specific item took away all the excitement I had for this device.
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I really thought they'd add it just to differentiate it from the S20 Ultra some more. Not too big a deal though. I just peeked for fun, and I was running my Note10+ on 1080p without realizing it. Haha.
I'm still pumped for that smooth scrolling, 5G, 9ms latency on s-pen, and the overall beauty of that phone.
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You honestly can't notice a difference when you change resolutions. I looks good and feels really snappy either way. I've been using it for 3 weeks now and its been just fine for me.
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I really thought they'd add it just to differentiate it from the S20 Ultra some more. Not too big a deal though. I just peeked for fun, and I was running my Note10+ on 1080p without realizing it. Haha.
I'm still pumped for that smooth scrolling, 5G, 9ms latency on s-pen, and the overall beauty of that phone.
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That's good to hear. I'm coming in from a Note 8 so, I'm sure almost everything about this phone will be an upgrade for me either way. :good:
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That's good to hear. I'm coming in from a Note 8 so, I'm sure almost everything about this phone will be an upgrade for me either way. :good:
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Oh dang... Yeah man, I had a Note8, Note9, Note10+, and now will have Note20 Ultra... EVERY one of those phones felt a lot nicer than the last... So yes, you're gonna have your socks knocked off!
> Sticking to the same ice-age tiny and not-so-reliable FP scanner and not implementing the newer 3D Sonic Max Sensor(which is not even very new to have an excuse)!
> Reduction of 500 mAh from the S20 Ultra to feed the same display size in the Note 20 Ultra!
(Instead of reducing the thickness of the N20U coming from the S20U, Sammy most probably could have retained the same thickness or even made it little thicker to have the same 5000 mAh b).
> Not having an option to use 120 Hz RR at QHD+!
- are my disappointments.
As for battery, on the plus side the better screen type, better CPU, and the dynamic refresh rate should balance the scales. I bet battery life will exceed the S20 Ultra, actually!
The FP scanner is tolerable but I would have LOVED to hear about improvements. So there's a better one out there?? Man... What a missed opportunity.
PsiPhiDan said:
As for battery, on the plus side the better screen type, better CPU, and the dynamic refresh rate should balance the scales. I bet battery life will exceed the S20 Ultra, actually!
The FP scanner is tolerable but I would have LOVED to hear about improvements. So there's a better one out there?? Man... What a missed opportunity.
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It being LTPO, adaptive RR is the whole and lone advantage I think for batterylife. And "plus" version of the SD SoC drains more battery than the vanilla one is what I know of, as the cores are clocked higher. This adaptive/dynamic RR would be a big plus and SD version will have good batt. life considering all factors even though batt. is now small.
Batt. endurance isn't/wasn't looking good in the Exynos counterparts in the S20 series. Will it be better this time around with a "small" battery and not so batt.-friendly SoC? ... don't know. It's still Exynos 990 and not 992 or something to have an architectural advantage created using in different febricated process. Rumors suggest CPU/GPU improvements in some ways, and I'm confused here if battery effeciency would be a part of it due to less heat/throttle.. Or to rule them all, adaptive RR is more than enough here too, to have more battery life than before?
The FP recognition is improved and responsive apparently.
Virgo_Guy said:
The FP recognition is improved and responsive apparently.
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Oh really? Was that true on the S-series this year or it that Note-specific? I've not read anything about that anywhere!
As for the rest of your comment... I guess we'll just wait and see! I'm not worried about battery at all, but I am in the US so the Snapdragon is why I'm not worried. Over my Note10+, this battery is LARGER and this generation of CPU may be more efficient so I'm guessing my battery life will be on par with this after adding in the 120Hz.
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Oh really? Was that true on the S-series this year or it that Note-specific? I've not read anything about that anywhere!
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Note-specific,the one in the Note 20 Ultra:
Fast forward to 07:09 here and 06:51 here.
PsiPhiDan said:
As for the rest of your comment... I guess we'll just wait and see! I'm not worried about battery at all, but I am in the US so the Snapdragon is why I'm not worried. Over my Note10+, this battery is LARGER and this generation of CPU may be more efficient so I'm guessing my battery life will be on par with this after adding in the 120Hz.
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Yes, you're good there. I get to use Exynos and gives battery anxiety by late afternoon when used in mobile data(S20+) on moderate use @120 Hz, have doubt on the Shannon modem as well..
Will wait and see for the rest!
From my mate pro 10 :
1/ mobile dock, a great feature
2/ battery duration very low ! 1 day !
3/ fingerprint not really accurate
4/ overheat easy
Carrier specific Video calling?
So I see in another thread that someone with Verizon has a similar problem and I have T-mobile but can anyone confirm or deny the carrier specific video calling function? Look like (even in settings I checked) that the function is just not there for this device and you can only use DUO. I even downloaded The official T-mobile firmware and flashed my device twice this morning (1x with regular CSC file and another with the HOME CSC file and it made no difference). I bought mine carrier unlocked but the theory was flashing the firmware for T-mobile would've enabled those features but not even getting the T-mobile logo.
Can anyone confirm the same? I have the Note 20 and not the Ultra but it shouldn't make a difference.
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So I see in another thread that someone with Verizon has a similar problem and I have T-mobile but can anyone confirm or deny the carrier specific video calling function? Look like (even in settings I checked) that the function is just not there for this device and you can only use DUO. I even downloaded The official T-mobile firmware and flashed my device twice this morning (1x with regular CSC file and another with the HOME CSC file and it made no difference). I bought mine carrier unlocked but the theory was flashing the firmware for T-mobile would've enabled those features but not even getting the T-mobile logo.
Can anyone confirm the same? I have the Note 20 and not the Ultra but it shouldn't make a difference.
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Confirmed. I'm in the US, on T-MOBILE. I can use both carrier specific video calling and Duo.