So I have watched a quite a few YouTubers doing their camera tests, comparisons and I'm guessing most attended the Samsung unpacked event
However not one has tested HDR10, yes perhaps it's a non starter as well we don't have HDR10 certification on our devices, perhaps answered my own question/query.
But it would have been nice for those to give their opinion on its implementation and the difference it makes. We will all find out very soon, I'm just curious as this was a big mention at the unpacked event.
I thought Netflix already certified these new phones?
roaduardo said:
I thought Netflix already certified these new phones?
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Yea but that wasn't my point .....I'm on about the camera shooting HDR10.....
Duncan1982 said:
Yea but that wasn't my point .....I'm on about the camera shooting HDR10.....
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Blast, my bad.
roaduardo said:
Blast, my bad.
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It's cool bro, just find it peculiar that all the YouTubers (professionals lol) have barely mentioned it, if at all.....
Duncan1982 said:
It's cool bro, just find it peculiar that all the YouTubers (professionals lol) have barely mentioned it, if at all.....
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They didn't also mention the super video stabilization which uses the wide angle camera ...
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They didn't also mention the super video stabilization which uses the wide angle camera ...
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Super-Steady?....I'm sure a couple mentioned it, specifically supersaf & Pocket Now, but yeah just wonder about these YouTubers sometimes
Super steady video looked incredible
Duncan1982 said:
So I have watched a quite a few YouTubers doing their camera tests, comparisons and I'm guessing most attended the Samsung unpacked event
However not one has tested HDR10, yes perhaps it's a non starter as well we don't have HDR10 certification on our devices, perhaps answered my own question/query.
But it would have been nice for those to give their opinion on its implementation and the difference it makes. We will all find out very soon, I'm just curious as this was a big mention at the unpacked event.
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Thought I read somewhere that HDR10+ recording was coming in a future update. Not sure about that though as I cant find the source.
Mentioned here... Winning! ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ala-F0TUUn8
6:40 :Super Steady
8:14: HDR10+ Recording and viewing.
A little past 8:14 into the video: 4kshots with selfie camera
No need to thank me :good:
WookieLance said:
6:40 :Super Steady
8:14: HDR10+ Recording and viewing.
A little past 8:14 into the video: 4kshots with selfie camera
No need to thank me :good:
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Boy he really went into depth lol
I think this is the first phone that supports HDR10 in video, eagerly waiting to see the result. Hope that won't disappoint me.
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I think this is the first phone that supports HDR10 in video, eagerly waiting to see the result. Hope that won't disappoint me.
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it's the fifth officially Sony XZ2,XZ3,G7,V40. 7th Unofficially F1,MIX3
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it's the fifth officially Sony XZ2,XZ3,G7,V40. 7th Unofficially F1,MIX3
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The actual thing is the HDR Video content can able to see in that displays, but this is the first one that can shoot actual HDR video content.
well, HDR youtube is already working in selected phones on android and also in Windows 10 HDR enabled monitors.
I have a Mi 8 and in youtube app it reads 1080p 60 FPS HDR WebM
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The actual thing is the HDR Video content can able to see in that displays, but this is the first one that can shoot actual HDR video content.
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Hello everyone, I bought the pocophone, waiting for it to arrive, but one thing I saw on the spec sheet I didn't like so much was that 4k recording was 30fps - only. I then found this article from geeksultd.com saying that slo-mo also isn't an option, but that the head of POCO said they would implement it if they get enough interest from the community.
That's almost a "killer feature" for me, so Id like to know if something like GCam will work or if it has to be implemented as a low-level thing.
Essentially, my question is where do you sign up, Because it's always better to have it in the native app...
"The community" Is that here, or do you have to go on the official Xiaomi forums?
Lastly, I'm a noob here, so if I didn't post right, please tell me!
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Hello everyone, I bought the pocophone, waiting for it to arrive, but one thing I saw on the spec sheet I didn't like so much was that 4k recording was 30fps - only. I then found this article from geeksultd.com saying that slo-mo also isn't an option, but that the head of POCO said they would implement it if they get enough interest from the community.
That's almost a "killer feature" for me, so Id like to know if something like GCam will work or if it has to be implemented as a low-level thing.
Essentially, my question is where do you sign up, Because it's always better to have it in the native app...
"The community" Is that here, or do you have to go on the official Xiaomi forums?
Lastly, I'm a noob here, so if I didn't post right, please tell me!
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4k 60fps can be enabled in future but we do have slow motion in way of 720p, 240fps; 1080p, 240fps
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4k 60fps can be enabled in future but we do have slow motion in way of 720p, 240fps; 1080p, 240fps
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Well that's great but I've still got questions :
1. Is there no option for [email protected]?
and
2. Were should I go to ask for [email protected]?
4k Being the most important feature to me.
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Well that's great but I've still got questions :
1. Is there no option for [email protected]?
and
2. Were should I go to ask for [email protected]?
4k Being the most important feature to me.
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4k 60fps is not availble or enabled right now and so if we can make enough fuss about it Devs may enable it future OTA but you can try 3rd party camera apps like OpenCamera and see if you shoot 4k 60fps
but i did check my phone now for 480fps and i don't find it camera app, sorry i took the info from their website
vinumsv said:
4k 60fps is not availble or enabled right now and so if we can make enough fuss about it Devs may enable it future OTA but you can try 3rd party camera apps like OpenCamera and see if you shoot 4k 60fps
but i did check my phone now for 480fps and i don't find it camera app, sorry i took the info from their website
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Wow, Thanks a lot! Well, I'm just gonna have to wait for my phone to arrive now!
Hello, yesterday i tested my mi8 and a friend`s sony xz2(lcd).
On normal content mi8(with increased contrast) is better and vivid.
Then we decided to test youtube hdr content.
Sony`s LCD was much, much better. In fact i think normal content looks better on mi8 thant its "HDR" mode. Picture is not vivid, just bright( i think it is pushing increased contrast off)?
So, if mi8 is capable to produce better picture, how come HDR content looks so bad? Is it some kind of license lacking - like the Widevine L1?
He also tested vs galaxy s8 and the results were the same , so is this HDR just not working properly on AMOLED displays?
Wipe the phone and upgrade to Android P xiaomi.eu
Try to use YouTube Vanced & no need upgrade to Android P which is bull**** by the fella. FYI, the HDR Full Brightness is turned on by default.
I have Youtube vanced. I know it is pushing 100% brightness while playing hdr content.
This is the clip that we compared: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tO01J-M3g0U
The difference was so big on 23 second in the eyes
Looks like i am not the only one noticed the issue:
"Probably because of the Chinese firmware used on my smartphone (which doesn't have the Google App natively) I was unable in any way to view HDR content from the world's most popular video streaming platform. Let me explain: videos are played, YouTube signals the use of HDR content but the display remains faded and dull.
You'll notice the lack of color and brilliance by putting another smartphone with an HDR display next to it and playing the same video. Watching HDR10 test videos from the gallery or with VLC returned the desired results, no substantial problem with the video format therefore. "
https://www.androidpit.com/xiaomi-mi-8-display-review
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I have Youtube vanced. I know it is pushing 100% brightness while playing hdr content.
This is the clip that we compared: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tO01J-M3g0U
The difference was so big on 23 second in the eyes
Looks like i am not the only one noticed the issue:
"Probably because of the Chinese firmware used on my smartphone (which doesn't have the Google App natively) I was unable in any way to view HDR content from the world's most popular video streaming platform. Let me explain: videos are played, YouTube signals the use of HDR content but the display remains faded and dull.
You'll notice the lack of color and brilliance by putting another smartphone with an HDR display next to it and playing the same video. Watching HDR10 test videos from the gallery or with VLC returned the desired results, no substantial problem with the video format therefore. "
https://www.androidpit.com/xiaomi-mi-8-display-review
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Literally, the HDR is just a gimmick for the phones. If you want HDR10 then get the iPhone. FYI, the HDR can't even play properly on the PC, you expected too much with Android phones which are lacking behind.
It is not a gimmick. The diffrence is huge, just compare some phone with LCD and HDR with the mi8 on youtube.
At me YouTube Vanced didn't work on 8.8.30. Now on 8.9.13 HDR on YouTube works flawless. And btw there are no major bugs, pretty stable for me
Works very fine with YT Vanced on global 9.6.7
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Hello, yesterday i tested my mi8 and a friend`s sony xz2(lcd).
On normal content mi8(with increased contrast) is better and vivid.
Then we decided to test youtube hdr content.
Sony`s LCD was much, much better. In fact i think normal content looks better on mi8 thant its "HDR" mode. Picture is not vivid, just bright( i think it is pushing increased contrast off)?
So, if mi8 is capable to produce better picture, how come HDR content looks so bad? Is it some kind of license lacking - like the Widevine L1?
He also tested vs galaxy s8 and the results were the same , so is this HDR just not working properly on AMOLED displays?
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It is not a gimmick. The diffrence is huge, just compare some phone with LCD and HDR with the mi8 on youtube.
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Yes the difference is substantial. MI8 does not have an excellent display. It is very good, but not on par with OLED ones on Apple and Galaxy.
That is fact. (They needed to save some money).
Guys, you are not reading.
On normal content like pictures:
mi8 > xz2
score 8:6
HDR from youtube
mi8 < xz2
score 3:9
In fact, it looks worse than non hdr content.
Yes, I have the same problem with my Mi 8
in fact I report this bug to miui support, and start my thread a while ago,
here u can read it and see picture comparison to my mother Samsung Galaxy A3 2016
http://en.miui.com/thread-3726357-1-1.html
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Yes, I have the same problem with my Mi 8
in fact I report this bug to miui support, and start my thread a while ago,
here u can read it and see picture comparison to my mother Samsung Galaxy A3 2016
http://en.miui.com/thread-3726357-1-1.html
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I also get it on my Mi8 with MIUI 10.0.5.0, its really easy to see the difference, simply by going to the https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nfNKowlA5k, and comparing it to the actual HDR file playing back on your device (via VLC etc), which you can download from the 4KMedia.org website at http://4kmedia.org/lg-new-york-hdr-uhd-4k-demo/
As already stated, the actual "non HDR" version on youtube looks better than the HDR. However downloading the file from the 4kmedia website, you get to see it in all its glory.
HDR was not working on my China 9.5. Updated to bêta 8.9.13 Xiaomi.eu, now working perfectly on YouTube.
Expect so much with mi8 price tag? Human are really hard to pleased.
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At me YouTube Vanced didn't work on 8.8.30. Now on 8.9.13 HDR on YouTube works flawless. And btw there are no major bugs, pretty stable for me
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Is your YouTube player filling the notch? Or is the notch area not utilized? Am on 8.9.7 beta but notch ain't filled
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Is your YouTube player filling the notch? Or is the notch area not utilized? Am on 8.9.7 beta but notch ain't filled
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Yes it does. I'm on 8.9.20
Latest china dev still Youtube(vanced too) is not full screen including notch. But when i download pubg from china app store it is full screen+notch. So is it app dependent or rom dependent?
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However downloading the file from the 4kmedia website, you get to see it in all its glory.
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Not really. You can see the massive difference between what is on-screen and the thumbnail preview if you scroll through the video. Was the same for MIUI 9 and newly updated MIUI 10 as well.
Has there been any solution to this yet? So frustrated with the poor support and the laundry list of issues to fix just to get videos to playback properly in HDR and extended to the notch. I'm doubtful that Android Pie would fix all these issues.
Anyone have this issue? whenever i play HDR video on youtube, it's always on highest brightness.
It's only on the Mate 20, my friend's iPhone and Galaxy does not exhibit this behavior.
This is a bug in samsung and iPhones. For the reference check any HDR tv from brands like Sony.. When playing HDR video the brightness is always maximized.
wtf this is the dumbest topic i ever seen, do u even know how hdr works?
High brightness = hdr lol
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wtf this is the dumbest topic i ever seen, do u even know how hdr works?
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I wasn't sure if it was a bug or not, since i saw HDR videos looks different on iPhone and Galaxy devices.
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wtf this is the dumbest topic i ever seen, do u even know how hdr works?
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Maybe not, but that's what forums are all about. I don't so this is interesting for me too. Rather than flaming, educate.
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wtf this is the dumbest topic i ever seen, do u even know how hdr works?
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This is the dumbest reply I have ever seen. Do you even know what forums are for? (I guess I have seen worse. But if you don't have anything constructive to say, you should go somewhere else.)
It may be a feature. Proper HDR TVs are many times brighter than regular TVs. But i guess it should be an option if you are watching it in a dark place. It doesn't seem te be possible to see a non HDR verson in the YouTube app either.
Hi, I notice that whenever I use my front camera, especially on messager. the quality is so low or blurry. Is anyone experiencing this?
Me too its even worse than my old oneplus 6 , I'm very disappointed
Same, I don't know why the GT 2 Pro has a really bad front cam. My old Xiaomi Mi 9T can do better do. The front cam of the GT 2 Pro has a very smudgy look which I don't know if it's because of the software or something else.
I recently got the phone and notice this too when taking pictures of items with lettering. It is not as sharp. My old Huawei P10 was better.
Is there anything to do about this? Would installing GCam improve this?
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Is there anything to do about this?
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Yes, get another phone. Selfie camera is below average - in every review you can read this.
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Would installing GCam improve this?
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Yes, it will improve, but not significantly. It makes sense especially for the main camera.
all software related, the front sensor is actually amazing. I get amazing results using third party apps.
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all software related, the front sensor is actually amazing. I get amazing results using third party apps.
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Care to share those 3rd party apps
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Free you can use open camera, it supports 4k on front camera and has camera2api support, and some gamma curves that helps a lot. But if you want amazing quality you can get mcpro24fps that supports 4k, 10bit color depth, HDR HGL profile recording, lots of gamma curves and gamuts, you can get front camera footage out of it that will make anyone think you using a professional camera if you know how to use them properly. Other option is motioncam pro that records full RAW DNG frames witch is crazy hi quality but very hard to use and extremely heavy to deal with. So my recommendation is mcpro24fps, and for photos gcam off course. If you don't use gcam in any android device you just crazy.
This video is from the front camera with mcpro24fps:
I can take a shot on full blow clear sky and sun tomorrow if you want to see the great dinamic range you can get
Wow, that is from the selfie lens? Amazing!!
mcpro24fps is in the google play store correct?
Is 8.4 the latest GCam? If so where is the best place to download the apk?
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Wow, that is from the selfie lens? Amazing!!
mcpro24fps is in the google play store correct?
Is 8.4 the latest GCam? If so where is the best place to download the apk?
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Yep, thats selfie camera, as I said.....amazing sensor but terrible Realme software.
Yes, mcpro24fps is on play store
For gcam go on the telegram realme gt2 pro gcam group you can find everything there.
Attaching here an example of the front camera dinamic range with proper software, not the stock camera blow out **** they provide.
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I modified the AGC cam. The original source is: https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/dev-BigKaka/f/dl9/
Modification:
- Changed package name so Realme GT2 Pro exposes all lenses
- Added settings option which pops up if you long click on app icon on your launcher
If the app is crashing enter the settings via long click on app icon and change the Device Interface for all lenses. E.g. to "Pixel 2 XL (Taimen)".
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Added base config. You need to unzip file before use.
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I have very nice results with this one mode.
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yes
Wow, $23CAD for mcpro24fps
That dynamic range is crazy... So good.
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Wow, $23CAD for mcpro24fps
That dynamic range is crazy... So good.
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Yeah, try doing the same in the stock camera , you gonna look like a nuclear bomb exploded, I really never even bother opening the stock camera app, it makes me mad to see a good sensor wasted with this Realme software. Just the fact that front camera is capped at 1080 for no reason drives me crazy already.
I think the app is worth every penny. The developers are also amazing, just a while ago there was no support for 10bit HDR on the app for the gt2 pro, I asked about it on the official app telegram group and in one week they added support
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Yeah, try doing the same in the stock camera , you gonna look like a nuclear bomb exploded, I really never even bother opening the stock camera app, it makes me mad to see a good sensor wasted with this Realme software. Just the fact that front camera is capped at 1080 for no reason drives me crazy already.
I think the app is worth every penny. The developers are also amazing, just a while ago there was no support for 10bit HDR on the app for the gt2 pro, I asked about it on the official app telegram group and in one week they added support
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Did you find presist.img from device ?
Because i need the same image
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Did you find presist.img from device ?
Because i need the same image
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You need to buy the calibration tool and calibrate it yourself, there is no other way to fix it that I know
I wanted to buy DJI OSMO Mobile 6, but it seems that it lacks support even for S22 Ultra, so I suppose they will never make it work with S23 Ultra.
So what else can I buy?
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I wanted to buy DJI OSMO Mobile 6, but it seems that it lacks support even for S22 Ultra, so I suppose they will never make it work with S23 Ultra.
So what else can I buy?
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See, it depends on what you really need, I actually am using that currently for my s23 ultra, but only because I just needed something with stabilisation and something to hold my phone for still shots. It's sad the hardware doesn't work directly with the camera app, they have their own which is pretty lackluster, however all the features worked related to their product in their app.
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See, it depends on what you really need, I actually am using that currently for my s23 ultra, but only because I just needed something with stabilisation and something to hold my phone for still shots. It's sad the hardware doesn't work directly with the camera app, they have their own which is pretty lackluster, however all the features worked related to their product in their app.
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Can you specify what 'all the features worked related to their product in their app' means? I thought that S23 Ultra is not supported at all?
Is it possible to shoot 4k 60fps stabilized video?
Also is it possible to shoot photo (not video) panorama handheld?
Can you please post some video on which is visible how stable the phone is?
Thanks.
You misunderstood me, the features that they advertise do work, but most of it is because it's all done with their tripod + app. That's also the problem however, since their app is pretty lackluster, yes it'll do everything they said it can, but you have no control or options, for example I can use only 1080p 60fps recording. What I'm trying to say is that it can do all the stuff they say but you're only limited to what they offer in their app (Device support, yes it'll support any phone theoretically, however the options are limited to the support of the device), which isn't a lot, and you lose out all the stuff from the stock camera app. However if you just need a tripod that stabilises then it does that regardless of any further interaction, works out of box since it all happens on the tripod itself, however you'll need the app anyway to update the firmware of the tripod. I'll show you some photos from in the app when I get home from work.
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Can you specify what 'all the features worked related to their product in their app' means? I thought that S23 Ultra is not supported at all?
Is it possible to shoot 4k 60fps stabilized video?
Also is it possible to shoot photo (not video) panorama handheld?
Can you please post some video on which is visible how stable the phone is?
Thanks.
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You misunderstood me, the features that they advertise do work, but most of it is because it's all done with their tripod + app. That's also the problem however, since their app is pretty lackluster, yes it'll do everything they said it can, but you have no control or options, for example I can use only 1080p 60fps recording. What I'm trying to say is that it can do all the stuff they say but you're only limited to what they offer in their app (Device support, yes it'll support any phone theoretically, however the options are limited to the support of the device), which isn't a lot, and you lose out all the stuff from the stock camera app. However if you just need a tripod that stabilises then it does that regardless of any further interaction, works out of box since it all happens on the tripod itself, however you'll need the app anyway to update the firmware of the tripod. I'll show you some photos from in the app when I get home from work.
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Oh I see. I need a tripod with stabilization.
I think I'll buy it from Amazon to see how it works. I can return it if I don't like it.
I'd appreciate if you post some photos and videos.
Thanks.
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Oh I see. I need a tripod with stabilization.
I think I'll buy it from Amazon to see how it works. I can return it if I don't like it.
I'd appreciate if you post some photos and videos.
Thanks.
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Exactly what I did, bought it from there, decided that it fulfills the basic necessities and kept it, like you said you can always return it. In terms of stabilisation itself it's actually not too bad in my opinion, however this is my first one ever so I can't say anything more besides that. And yeah I will.