Please note this is my first thread and not dwelling deep in to the techs of the phone.
Amazon kindly delivered my Xperia 10 Plus this morning and like a little child at Xmas, couldn't wait to unpack and power on.
Now my current status is I have been running on Xperia XZ Premium for last 18 months and decided to see what the deal is with the larger screen X10 plus.
First glance, it's tall, big a just a tad slimmer, suppose that'll be for the one hand use.
Installation of micro sd card and memory card a breeze and since I opted for the dual sim, the sim tray can handle 2 sims easily.
Pros
OS seems to be quicker but the boot up time isn't
Camera capture has improved compared to XZP and will need to check this tomorrow on daylight
The little widgets like side sense is a good way to use phone on handed
handset in one hand feels comfortable and very light but still purchased a case for the phone for the additional protection
Cons
Took a while to remove the google search bar on home screen as OS 9 seems to do this differently when it comes to removing (had to Google it)
Charging time does take a little longer in my experience but this could be down to battery care and stamina
You can't customise what screen is your home screen so if you have 3 screens, 1st screen is your home screen, This is issue for me since I like my icons/apps setup in a way makes to easier for me. Could possibly not be setting the home screen correctly
Had a strange issue with restore from my Google account and it placed two icons for each app downloaded so ended up factory reset and seems to resolve the issue
All in all, still early days as not much time to fiddle with the phone as I required to setup again and juggle the icons on home screen as sadly this didn't do on backup from old phone.
I'll add more comments when I have managed to play with the phone more.
Thanks.
Well, been a few days using the phone and so far had the following as issues or switched off.
1. Camera seems to crash twice on use where app opens but buttons doesn't respond until you have the crash notification. Albeit camera quality is very good compared to XZP.
2. Switched off the Swipe up on home button as it seemed to get messed up with me wanting to access all apps from swiping up from the bottom of phone.
3. As someone else mentioned before, games touch screen buttons not optimised as some games buttons are low right side and makes it very awkward to use when playing.
4. Couple of times you press an icon on app and doesn't seem to launch or takes a while to do anything. One app i remember is launching the messenger app for FB from the FB app. Did sod all and restarted handset to fix it.
I would take some quality pics but where I live is a bit trashy so nothing good atm and will wait for weather to improve.
Just hope others who have the same phone report on same issues for Sony to fix
anyone know how to get the "recent apps" button to show up on the nav bar? I dont see one anywhere, or, how to enable it
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anyone know how to get the "recent apps" button to show up on the nav bar? I dont see one anywhere, or, how to enable it
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I think you need to open the Xperia Launcher settings. Just hold down your finger on one of the homescreens. The 2nd or 3rd option should give you the old navbar back
thanks, but there is no mention of navbar anywhere in the Xperia Launcher settings..:crying:
wase4711 said:
thanks, but there is no mention of navbar anywhere in the Xperia Launcher settings..:crying:
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My bad it's in the display settings under advanced. "Swipe up on home button". Don't have my phone right now, had to send it in so i couldn't say for sure. Thought it was hidden quite well :/
perfect, thanks!
How's low light recording and pics ?
Does it support Camera2 API RAW capture?
bellissimo.io said:
Does it support Camera2 API RAW capture?
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Camera2 API Probe reported no.
I have no issues with my Sony Xperia 10 Plus after 4 months so far. It's fast and smooth in my use. I can take great pictures and videos. 21:9 experience is great and amazing!
How is battery life and sot?
I'm seriously considering this phone as an upgrade. I'm in Asia so models here come with 6gb of ram. I'm currently on the z5 premium. Would you say there is any improvement in performance between the xz premium and the 10 plus?
Mike3009 said:
I'm seriously considering this phone as an upgrade. I'm in Asia so models here come with 6gb of ram. I'm currently on the z5 premium. Would you say there is any improvement in performance between the xz premium and the 10 plus?
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Performance on XZ premium is better compared with Xperia 10 plus. Xperia 10 plus is sluggish en general use. I think there is a problem with the launcher optimization. The only way that i founded to acelerate the smartphone is to deactivating "Animations". After that, the Xperia 10 plus beahvior, results in a great performance, smooth. If you install a 3rd party launcher, the sluggish problem appears again. This phone definitively needs software optimization from Sony. I waiting android 10 fix this situation. I want to highlight that the sound quality from bluetooth is amazing, i thinl is better that xz premium, XZ2. I dont know if Sony increase the audio quality in this model.
I bought this phone yesterday from best buy and to me what a pile of junk, the screen just above the power button actually is separating from the plastic frame, I hear faint pop like sound and I start pressing on the edge of the screen I heard the sound again, on further inspection looks like the adhesive tape they must use to attach the screen to the frame is letting loose from the main frame, this thing is slow and very sluggish. I would advise people not to buy this phone, for the price..... you can buy a older flagship phone or even a oneplus 6t or 6 for less used and runs circles around this sony phone.
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I have to say, that this LG G2 is the first phone that i felt like, "wow, they really thought and tinkered with most of the issues i have with big screen andriod phone"
to list a few,
1. Battery! I love it. 5 hours of streaming Pandora on Speaker phone at work site, and BT tethering for couple of hours. and 4 hours on on screen time.. i'm left with 40% at the end of day...
2. One Hand keyboard. DUH!!!! why it took so long for someone to figure this out!?!?!?
3. numbers on keyboard. !!! DUH!!! we have big screen.. why don't others have this factory before? why SWIFTKEY don't???
4. LOCK pattern locate on touch location. so simple yet so good.
5.. double tap to wake. FANTASTIC.
6 Back buttons.. took me 1/2 day to get use to buttons and learn to feel them. this deserves innovation award by itself!!!!
7. CAMERA that actually takes good photos!!! (HTC TOO but hey)
8 Wireless Storage.. makes life so simple when its just done for you!
9. Works with Klipsch S4 headphones.. Vol, Mic, select.. all works!!!! Samsung never worked
10. IR Blaster
11. Brightness adjustment. Your Auto is not my Ideal Auto brightness. ADJUSTABLE Baseline!!
12. Front touch button - notification pull down... crazy good. my thumb ain't that long.. and this is perfect!
insang-droid said:
I have to say, that this LG G2 is the first phone that i felt like, "wow, they really thought and tinkered with most of the issues i have with big screen andriod phone"
to list a few,
1. Battery! I love it. 5 hours of streaming Pandora on Speaker phone at work site, and BT tethering for couple of hours. and 4 hours on on screen time.. i'm left with 40% at the end of day...
2. One Hand keyboard. DUH!!!! why it took so long for someone to figure this out!?!?!?
3. numbers on keyboard. !!! DUH!!! we have big screen.. why don't others have this factory before? why SWIFTKEY don't???
4. LOCK pattern locate on touch location. so simple yet so good.
5.. double tap to wake. FANTASTIC.
6 Back buttons.. took me 1/2 day to get use to buttons and learn to feel them. this deserves innovation award by itself!!!!
7. CAMERA that actually takes good photos!!! (HTC TOO but hey)
8 Wireless Storage.. makes life so simple when its just done for you!
9. Works with Klipsch S4 headphones.. Vol, Mic, select.. all works!!!! Samsung never worked
10. IR Blaster
11. Brightness adjustment. Your Auto is not my Ideal Auto brightness. ADJUSTABLE Baseline!!
12. Front touch button - notification pull down... crazy good. my thumb ain't that long.. and this is perfect!
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I couldn't agree more. You can gripe about the plastic casing, maybe. Other than that, LG knocked it out of park. The negative reviews are asinine. It's their opinion, that's mine
I was a little bummed/tricked by the single speaker even though it looks like there are two but no biggie. Completely agree with the rest! ?
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I can't disagree with anything said here. Thumbs up.
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insang-droid said:
I have to say, that this LG G2 is the first phone that i felt like, "wow, they really thought and tinkered with most of the issues i have with big screen andriod phone"
to list a few,
1. Battery! I love it. 5 hours of streaming Pandora on Speaker phone at work site, and BT tethering for couple of hours. and 4 hours on on screen time.. i'm left with 40% at the end of day...
2. One Hand keyboard. DUH!!!! why it took so long for someone to figure this out!?!?!?
3. numbers on keyboard. !!! DUH!!! we have big screen.. why don't others have this factory before? why SWIFTKEY don't???
4. LOCK pattern locate on touch location. so simple yet so good.
5.. double tap to wake. FANTASTIC.
6 Back buttons.. took me 1/2 day to get use to buttons and learn to feel them. this deserves innovation award by itself!!!!
7. CAMERA that actually takes good photos!!! (HTC TOO but hey)
8 Wireless Storage.. makes life so simple when its just done for you!
9. Works with Klipsch S4 headphones.. Vol, Mic, select.. all works!!!! Samsung never worked
10. IR Blaster
11. Brightness adjustment. Your Auto is not my Ideal Auto brightness. ADJUSTABLE Baseline!!
12. Front touch button - notification pull down... crazy good. my thumb ain't that long.. and this is perfect!
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2 and 3 were in the note 2 last year , just saying...
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barondebxl said:
2 and 3 were in the note 2 last year , just saying...
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#2 was on the Optimus G and the Optimus Vu (Intuition) last year, just saying
#8 can be achieved with any phone using Samba filesharing app.
Just saying
Can #9 be confirmed? And is it referring to the S4i's or S4a's because to my knowledge the regular S4's don't have any buttons.
Edit: #9!! Meant to say #9.
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insang-droid said:
I have to say, that this LG G2 is the first phone that i felt like, "wow, they really thought and tinkered with most of the issues i have with big screen andriod phone"
to list a few,
1. Battery! I love it. 5 hours of streaming Pandora on Speaker phone at work site, and BT tethering for couple of hours. and 4 hours on on screen time.. i'm left with 40% at the end of day...
2. One Hand keyboard. DUH!!!! why it took so long for someone to figure this out!?!?!?
3. numbers on keyboard. !!! DUH!!! we have big screen.. why don't others have this factory before? why SWIFTKEY don't???
4. LOCK pattern locate on touch location. so simple yet so good.
5.. double tap to wake. FANTASTIC.
6 Back buttons.. took me 1/2 day to get use to buttons and learn to feel them. this deserves innovation award by itself!!!!
7. CAMERA that actually takes good photos!!! (HTC TOO but hey)
8 Wireless Storage.. makes life so simple when its just done for you!
9. Works with Klipsch S4 headphones.. Vol, Mic, select.. all works!!!! Samsung never worked
10. IR Blaster
11. Brightness adjustment. Your Auto is not my Ideal Auto brightness. ADJUSTABLE Baseline!!
12. Front touch button - notification pull down... crazy good. my thumb ain't that long.. and this is perfect!
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Actually, 1 is bigger on the s notes, but I'm not sure about them being better.
2 is already available
3 Yep
4 No idea what you meant
5 Already on windows phone
6 I've thought of this since 3 years ago and LG actually came up with it. It's great, but it has some downs.
7 Hell yes
8 Yeaa
9 N/A
10 Already on S4 etc
11 iPhone has it, if I'm not wrong.
12 This is really good, but I have big hands so not gonna use it much. The customisability is good for people coming from sammy.
13 There is actually built in screen off animations, like CRT, which almost all cyanogenmods use.
14 You can choose unlock animation, which is cool imo. I love the white hole animation.
15 Awesome notification lights. On front and back, so whether it's face up or face down you get the message.
16 Aspect ratio correction. Because the screen is actually 1080 x 1770 or something like that because of the on screen buttons, LG thought it'll be useful.
17 Quiet mode. Is it on any other phones? I think it's really useful.
The G2 is probably the most customisable phone on stock software out there. Love or hate, your call.
Cyanogen was my first taste I got of Quiet hours and I really missed it on TouchWiz so I was happy to see it here.
These things may be on other phones and/or available with apps but it is pretty dang nice to get them from the start in one package.
insang-droid said:
I have to say, that this LG G2 is the first phone that i felt like, "wow, they really thought and tinkered with most of the issues i have with big screen andriod phone"
to list a few,
1. Battery! I love it. 5 hours of streaming Pandora on Speaker phone at work site, and BT tethering for couple of hours. and 4 hours on on screen time.. i'm left with 40% at the end of day...
2. One Hand keyboard. DUH!!!! why it took so long for someone to figure this out!?!?!?
3. numbers on keyboard. !!! DUH!!! we have big screen.. why don't others have this factory before? why SWIFTKEY don't???
4. LOCK pattern locate on touch location. so simple yet so good.
5.. double tap to wake. FANTASTIC.
6 Back buttons.. took me 1/2 day to get use to buttons and learn to feel them. this deserves innovation award by itself!!!!
7. CAMERA that actually takes good photos!!! (HTC TOO but hey)
8 Wireless Storage.. makes life so simple when its just done for you!
9. Works with Klipsch S4 headphones.. Vol, Mic, select.. all works!!!! Samsung never worked
10. IR Blaster
11. Brightness adjustment. Your Auto is not my Ideal Auto brightness. ADJUSTABLE Baseline!!
12. Front touch button - notification pull down... crazy good. my thumb ain't that long.. and this is perfect!
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1) Note line and maxx line already achieved this.
2) Note line (probably others)
3) Note line again. Not sure why 3rd party keyboards don't have an option for this. I love a number row.
4) New afaik(actually nice since if you do it in different spots it doesn't leave a grease trail showing your pattern)
5) New and cool
6) Meh. Not sure its a positive
7) Others have had 'good' but its one of the first implementations of OIS.
8) I think some people were saying this is a JB feature.
9) err... ok
10) been there, done that.
11) That is really nice. Haven't seen it before
12) You mean changing the soft buttons?
The g2 puts a lot of good ideas together, but its not terribly innovative all on its own. At least its better than samsungs "you can make a video wall out of note 3's!" Lol.
#11 !!!!!!
thanks for pointing this out!... I like the concept of auto-brightness. especially when I turn it on at night to look at something, but auto brightness has ALWAYS made the screen too dim for me. Been waiting for someone to implement this setting forever!
I like the phone a lot too... minus the software. LG really killed the experience with all the unnecessary clutter features. Anxiously awaiting the CM treatment!
+Brad Piff Why do you say "minus the software"? What don't you like about the software? I am thinking about getting the G2.
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I had a Nexus4 running CM before this (R.I.P), so you kinda get a feel for what my preferences are. CM is powerful but simple.
For one, there's a lot of bloat software on the G2... granted that's with any phone you get from a provider. I'm not a fan of how LG did all the setting menus... being so accustomed to stock Android. The dialer is nice. I don't like how the front touch home button works (long hold for app switching, short hold+swipe for Google Now) and the far right button being Settings. I don't like the Notification pull down window... I want it to be clean, but it has Screen Brightness/Phone Volume built in.
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I had a Nexus4 running CM before this (R.I.P), so you kinda get a feel for what my preferences are. CM is powerful but simple.
For one, there's a lot of bloat software on the G2... granted that's with any phone you get from a provider. I'm not a fan of how LG did all the setting menus... being so accustomed to stock Android. The dialer is nice. I don't like how the front touch home button works (long hold for app switching, short hold+swipe for Google Now) and the far right button being Settings. I don't like the Notification pull down window... I want it to be clean, but it has Screen Brightness/Phone Volume built in.
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Thankfully most of the gripes the majority of people have with the stock software bloat can be removed by mods and/or custom ROM we already have available. The only thing we cant really get around at this time if the menu button issue. Many probably wont care though coming from other phones with a physical menu button still anyway, but those of us who got used to the stock Android feel since ICS are now missing the way menu is supposed to work.
What custom ROMs do you speak of? I've only seen one really.
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I like the phone a lot too... minus the software. LG really killed the experience with all the unnecessary clutter features. Anxiously awaiting the CM treatment!
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Nova Launcher + Holo Locker - QSlide = Happy Camper
I know some of the features been on other phone or on custom ROMS's but the combination make it great for me.
I should mention the down sides though.. all the crappy stock apps, are memory hog.
Message app still needs work. keyboard and message box take up most of the view
BLOAT BLOAT AND MORE BLOAT!!!
This phone has a built-in flash light accessible via widget. I had seen it in TiBu bit couldn't know how to launch it until just now when I went rummaging through the widget list. Now if we could just add it as a toggle in the notification area! Another great easter egg!
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hi i like this phone but without double take to wake i wont buy it.
it doesnt have the 4g b20 800mhz. i could live with that.. but i really cant live without double tap to wake i have a lg g3. and every chinees phone i buy has it. so for me it's a standard
Your can wakeup by fingerprint sensor. It was the best.
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U can also use the proximity sensor, it's faster than fingerprint and dt2w and eats nearly zero battery.
i was tempted to port it but after getting used to the fingerprint i guess its not really necessary
hum. my phone is always laying on the table next to my pc. so it's pretty annoying to have to lift up the phone to see if i have notifications. (i mean to read them)
i have LG phone and i can't live without double tap to wake. i mso used to the back buttons so a finger print scanner on the back is nice but no dt2w is stupid i mean i dont always have my phone in my hand. so if i want to wake it up i just double tap, but without that i need to lift up the phone or press the side power button dont know it seems pretty annoying for me.
i had a doogee f5 great phone but i use more double tap to wake then a finger print scanner i mostly turned it off cause i hate passwords only use it when im not at home. but soo yeah without double tape to wake this xiaomi is a no for me every 'f:iking chinees phone has double tap to wake even 50$ ones
why can't a 160euro xiaomi have it ilove xiaomi it's quality but yeah no 800mhz 4g and no double tap. if it had double tap to wake i could consider buying it.
so no rom has it implanted? or some one made it?
Seriously! I have redmi note 3 and i miss this feature a lot, even just to read notifications i need to hold up the phone and press power button or fingerprint scanner. Now many would argue and say there are apps like active display/gravity screen/proximity sensors but they all consume some amount of battery. Also these apps would be user apps, not system ones and so would be killed by miui Aggressive battery saver mode.
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Seriously! I have redmi note 3 and i miss this feature a lot, even just to read notifications i need to hold up the phone and press power button or fingerprint scanner. Now many would argue and say there are apps like active display/gravity screen/proximity sensors but they all consume some amount of battery. Also these apps would be user apps, not system ones and so would be killed by miui Aggressive battery saver mode.
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Finally some one who understands.
Yes there are apps but all use proximity or something.
I just love double tap is so easy.
And my lg g3 is getting old and the g4 is a bit expensive and not much of a ungrade so im looking for a new phone but thats almost impossible to find someone better then my lg g3 for a good price
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Finally some one who understands.
Yes there are apps but all use proximity or something.
I just love double tap is so easy.
And my lg g3 is getting old and the g4 is a bit expensive and not much of a ungrade so im looking for a new phone but thats almost impossible to find someone better then my lg g3 for a good price
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I had posted this in miui forums, but got the same vague response. Even though mi4 and others had this feature, it's missing on note3. Everyone considers it redundant due to the fingerprint sensor at the back but to me it removing dt2w would have only made sense if the fingerprint sensor was on front. From the looks of it, guess xiaomi won't be adding this feature back anytime soon. Till then we could just hope that someone somewhere ports it rn3.
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I had posted this in miui forums, but got the same vague response. Even though mi4 and others had this feature, it's missing on note3. Everyone considers it redundant due to the fingerprint sensor at the back but to me it removing dt2w would have only made sense if the fingerprint sensor was on front. From the looks of it, guess xiaomi won't be adding this feature back anytime soon. Till then we could just hope that someone somewhere ports it rn3.
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Yup tell then i wont buy it... I mean it's a steal for its price but damn. It's a simple feature that every phone out of China has.... Damit.
And wierd the mi4 has it. (saw the miui forum reeded every page) snif guess the remdi note won't be my next phone or will it? hahaa
damit i love the battery life. and the 'openess' of xiaomi/miui with sources aviable etc. i think it will get some custom roms. even if miui is already great.
i can get used to no double tap but i will miss it... and still hope some one ou xiaomi will implant it.. the 4g b20 pff not sure if i really do care that much.
but can some one tell me how dark the lowest brightness is? is it lower then a lg g3? or is it lower then a oneplusone (lg g3 is pretty bright a 0% that's not always fun, oneplusone was great at 0% very dark)
I used fingerprint sensor to wakeup by second finger. I found it was excellent.
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We just need a kernel support for it if the dispaly pannel supports that gesture!
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We just need a kernel support for it if the dispaly pannel supports that gesture!
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just needs time.
there are more and more roms every day.
some one started on a kernel. (or something with kernel)
it will come.
i ordered the phone (again lol i bought it first a 163.50 euro and now its 155.96euro at a other seller) i tried to get my seller to drop the price or give me a flip cover. but he wouldnt. so i canceled. now just wait for it to ship finaly a fast phone again. after 6 months a oneplusone then exchanging that for a lg g3 2gb was a good deal but the lg is getter slower and slower i mean the apps are getting heavier and heavier i use greenify and **** for the facebook app. but messenger whatsapp snapchat arent greenified cause i need notifications lol
if i let that apps sleeps i will get a fast phone i think. love the lg g3 it's one year. but i want better battery life faster phone and no bull**** 2k screen to get less battery life
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just needs time.
there are more and more roms every day.
some one started on a kernel. (or something with kernel)
it will come.
i ordered the phone (again lol i bought it first a 163.50 euro and now its 155.96euro at a other seller) i tried to get my seller to drop the price or give me a flip cover. but he wouldnt. so i canceled. now just wait for it to ship finaly a fast phone again. after 6 months a oneplusone then exchanging that for a lg g3 2gb was a good deal but the lg is getter slower and slower i mean the apps are getting heavier and heavier i use greenify and **** for the facebook app. but messenger whatsapp snapchat arent greenified cause i need notifications lol
if i let that apps sleeps i will get a fast phone i think. love the lg g3 it's one year. but i want better battery life faster phone and no bull**** 2k screen to get less battery life
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You're right. Gonna get this device asap.
Tītan
In twrp recovery the screen wakes up by just tapping on screen in redmi note 3. I am using twrp cofface. That means the display can support double tap to wake up.
Hoping some developer start working on it soon.
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In twrp recovery the screen wakes up by just tapping on screen in redmi note 3.
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You are mistaken. Check again your screen before "tapping to wake". You will see that screen is still powered up, it just has backlight dimmed to very low value.
uoiea0 said:
You are mistaken. Check again your screen before "tapping to wake". You will see that screen is still powered up, it just has backlight dimmed to very low value.
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Just checked again in dark room. Clearly the screen is off. Also its not an amoled display that i can't figure out.
reggiexp said:
hi i like this phone but without double take to wake i wont buy it.
it doesnt have the 4g b20 800mhz. i could live with that.. but i really cant live without double tap to wake i have a lg g3. and every chinees phone i buy has it. so for me it's a standard
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Short answer that it's likely not.
If you'll look at in which models Xiaomi is used to implement this feature you'll notice it only appears for the (premium?) MI lineup models.
Redmi phones hasn't ever had this feature in Xiaomi OEM ROMs/kernels despite hardware support. So, it is unlikely that it will ever come to RMN3 Pro in OEM ROM.
However, should someone have implemented it in a custom kernel, it is rather simple task to make it available in the Settings app through a patch.
dymbo said:
Short answer that it's likely not.
If you'll look at in which models Xiaomi is used to implement this feature you'll notice it only appears for the (premium?) MI lineup models.
Redmi phones hasn't ever had this feature in Xiaomi OEM ROMs/kernels despite hardware support. So, it is unlikely that it will ever come to RMN3 Pro in OEM ROM.
However, should someone have implemented it in a custom kernel, it is rather simple task to make it available in the Settings app through a patch.
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we will see. not in a hury.
don't have the phone yet.
it's on it's way. will get used to no double tap to wake it will obligat me to use the fingerprint scanner always i hate passwords but what ever.
but it's stupid cause every cheap mediatek phone has double tap to wake and xiaomi nope, just a big middel finger but anyway it's a great phone for it's price (i hope)
Coming from the LG G2 I too miss this feature a lot!
Hate to pick the Note up to unlock it if its lying flat on the table....such a simple and essential feature
monkeytown said:
Coming from the LG G2 I too miss this feature a lot!
Hate to pick the Note up to unlock it if its lying flat on the table....such a simple and essential feature
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Use Gravity Screen https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.plexnor.gravityscreenofffree
Then just swipe over the proximity sensor and the screen turns on, no battery drain and you can disable/enable it with one tap in the status bar
Power button is no longer next to my thumb.
No finger print sensor on the rear means it's more of a hassle to turn the screen on.
Lack of Pressure sensitive home button is also missed.
New camera is awesome it must be said.
Battery about the same.
Any input or suggestions to help me deal with these drawbacks?
After a few days of use, I realize what a good decision it was to move the power button. I am right handed but hold phone in my left hand.
I felt the same about the fp sensor so I am using face unlock now and surprised how fast it works.
I am getting close to 7 hours of SoT which is about 1.5 - 2 hours more for me than the Note9.
Not sure if I can suggest anything for battery issue. I was getting the same before I debloated as I am getting now after debloating. However, this time around on Note10+ I got rid of a lot of Google apps and using MS apps instead. I know Chrome use to eat more battery than the Samsung Browser or IE and I started to get a lot of notifications about Maps using a lot of background battery.
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Power button is no longer next to my thumb.
No finger print sensor on the rear means it's more of a hassle to turn the screen on.
Lack of Pressure sensitive home button is also missed.
New camera is awesome it must be said.
Battery about the same.
Any input or suggestions to help me deal with these drawbacks?
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I would have liked a regular finger print circle or a spot, but I don't need to turn on the screen for the finger print to unlock Note10.
bonstio said:
Power button is no longer next to my thumb.
No finger print sensor on the rear means it's more of a hassle to turn the screen on.
Lack of Pressure sensitive home button is also missed.
New camera is awesome it must be said.
Battery about the same.
Any input or suggestions to help me deal with these drawbacks?
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Most of that you knew before buying. So why did you switch?
AndroidUser00110001 said:
After a few days of use, I realize what a good decision it was to move the power button. I am right handed but hold phone in my left hand.
I felt the same about the fp sensor so I am using face unlock now and surprised how fast it works.
I am getting close to 7 hours of SoT which is about 1.5 - 2 hours more for me than the Note9.
Not sure if I can suggest anything for battery issue. I was getting the same before I debloated as I am getting now after debloating. However, this time around on Note10+ I got rid of a lot of Google apps and using MS apps instead. I know Chrome use to eat more battery than the Samsung Browser or IE and I started to get a lot of notifications about Maps using a lot of background battery.
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My thoughts exactly.
No complaints about the power button placement.
Only wish fingerprint sensor is as fast/responsive as it is on Note9
The wifi strength of my note 10 is significantly worse. My previous note 9 had a good signal in my bedroom or my floor ,but note's 10 signal is very frustrating as it is missing in these places at all.
Otherwise problems are all the above. I'm right handed so the effort to turn off the screen is frustrating.
An no heart rate sensor anymore!!
For those that don't like the power button on the left (and are right handed) just use your middle finger from the back of the phone to turn the screen off.
I use nova prime and have setup double tap = screen off so I hardly notice any more.
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daddymikey1975 said:
For those that don't like the power button on the left (and are right handed) just use your middle finger from the back of the phone to turn the screen off.
I use nova prime and have setup double tap = screen off so I hardly notice any more.
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Interesting...is Nova Prime a theme?
As to the OP's post, you'll learn and discover the new stuffs. The only upside I've seen is the 12gig ram that makes it running smoother when it comes to using two apps.
Ziken said:
Interesting...is Nova Prime a theme?
As to the OP's post, you'll learn and discover the new stuffs. The only upside I've seen is the 12gig ram that makes it running smoother when it comes to using two apps.
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Nova Prime is a launcher that allows gestures and other customization options.
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daddymikey1975 said:
Nova Prime is a launcher that allows gestures and other customization options.
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Kool.. I'll look into that.
bonstio said:
Power button is no longer next to my thumb.
No finger print sensor on the rear means it's more of a hassle to turn the screen on.
Lack of Pressure sensitive home button is also missed.
New camera is awesome it must be said.
Battery about the same.
Any input or suggestions to help me deal with these drawbacks?
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Use double tap to wake, lift to wake, and fingerprint for turning on the screen
Install one handed operation+ , and you have a lot of options for turning off the screen, I use diagonal down long swipe for it. I rarely use the power button anymore, even on my note 9 i didn't use power button much.
fingerprint in front of device is way more useful. you just need to get used to it.
So, I just got a note 10+ yesterday. The hardware is impressive, but the software sucks sack. I'm extremely frustrated with EVERYTHING being tied to google play services on these newer devices. Disable apps = battery drain. Put apps to sleep = unwanted samsung apps running in the background. Modify system app permissions = battery drain. Touch google play services = battery drain. Can't even wipe the damn cache without a bunch of samsung garbage starting up in the background. This company went from samsung to samsux.
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So, I just got a note 10+ yesterday. The hardware is impressive, but the software sucks sack. I'm extremely frustrated with EVERYTHING being tied to google play services on these newer devices. Disable apps = battery drain. Put apps to sleep = unwanted samsung apps running in the background. Modify system app permissions = battery drain. Touch google play services = battery drain. Can't even wipe the damn cache without a bunch of samsung garbage starting up in the background. This company went from samsung to samsux.
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You have MORE battery drain after disabling/sleeping apps? That makes no sense. Do you have before & after battery logs to prove that?
What is your average SOT and standby time?
Google Play Services are always active, but do not significantly drain battery. All Android phones will have Google Play Services running in the background. If you don't want Google Play Services, then you get a phone that can be bootloader unlocked and flash something like LineageOS, which has Google Play Services stripped from the ROM.
I came from a Note 9 and no issues at all with my Note 10+. On Friday I was at 6 hours 45min sot and was at 50% ony battery.
Is it work the upgrade over the note 9? Why it is love and the new stuff is great it dapens on the price. I got mine from Best buy $300 off and $200 monthly credit. So that price went from $1,100 to $600. Is a $600 upgrade over the note 9 worth it? Absolutely. $1100 upgrade? God no.
My note 9 was no longer under warranty. Prices are dropping so now was the time. Sold that note 9 for $350. So in total $250 to get into my note 10+ when all is said and done. But that price will go up since I'll lose some of that $200 credit when I go with a note 20+ ultra. But I'll wait till best buy outs them on sale this time next year and do the same.
No complaints here. I love the note 10+.
Just work with it. With the fingerprint sensor and always on display you don't really need to use the power button other than to turn the screen off. The fingerprint sensor placement feels much more natural to me now and can turn on the screen.
the worse thing for me is no LED notification light. That apps trying to replicate this work sometimes...not others. And only for short periods due to screen burn. BRING BACK LED LIGHTS
So what is everyone using the dual screen for? I installed the WideMode app, which is cool, but still looking for suggestions for taking advantage of the second screen.
I know if I get a pen, I can use it, but I could do that with the main screen.
Is anyone actually using it enough to justify keeping it attached all the time?
I use mine to take up space in the junk drawer.
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So what is everyone using the dual screen for? I installed the WideMode app, which is cool, but still looking for suggestions for taking advantage of the second screen.
I know if I get a pen, I can use it, but I could do that with the main screen.
Is anyone actually using it enough to justify keeping it attached all the time?
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If you don't know what to do with it by now you probably didn't need it.
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So what is everyone using the dual screen for? I installed the WideMode app, which is cool, but still looking for suggestions for taking advantage of the second screen.
I know if I get a pen, I can use it, but I could do that with the main screen.
Is anyone actually using it enough to justify keeping it attached all the time?
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Once you figure out how to set up the buttons, it's a huge advantage playing games like Call of Duty or pubg. Tip, in order to "fire and look" at the same time in fps games like call of duty, you need to use the virtual joystick button (red and black) and put the assignment button (square box with the plus sign) half way on the "fire" button and half way off so when you press the lower right of the virtual joystick it'll fire shots while being able to look around and aim.
Havent used mine in weeks too battery draining for me, even when I wasnt using both screens... even tho I wanted it badly... to use as a virtual controller was meh...I just got a real one... then the dual screen forces you to have to use the stock launcher on it which got very annoying to me... then you toss on that its bulky and unattractive, I had to burn a hole in the earphone jack slot to make it bigger just to fit regular high end headphones, and then theres the magnetic charger which sucked... plus the phone drops its charging speed to 500mAh when the temperature reaches 38 degrees (very common temp if you play a heavy 3d game or are out in the sun) so trying to use the dual screens with the phone charging (trying to offset the battery issue) its super slow to get 1% increase... so yeah mines just sitting in a storage box right now.
the new one they are showing for the Velvet looks much better designed! Id consider purchasing an updated dual screen cover if it looked like the velvets, but its good to see they are working on improving the tech... I feel like the galaxys folding screen wouldve been a better option now that I have almost no use for this one at the moment. I just wanted to watch videos/movies in the background and use my phone at the same time but not if it means my phone will only get ~5-6 hours screen time which is like dead by 3pm of started at 9am.
Now I use a lot more of the built in multitasking like split screen and pop up window
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Had the Zenfone 9 for a little while and thought I'd share some thoughts. Been using the device for as my main machine for basic work (email, document writing, ssh/remote management, video calling) and personal applications (social media, reading, watching videos, not gaming). Here's been my experience.
Size/Screen
despite people focusing on how compact the phone is it doesn't feel that small in a good way (especially compared to the iPhone mini). Screen size does not interfere with any applications I've used the phone for, even reading which I had some worries about before purchase. The biggest downside of the compact size I ran into was the typing experience, but that becomes much better with a keyboard that has good gesture support and some aggressive autocorrect. Overall it feels great in the hand as someone with large hands.
Visually the screen is sharp, has great viewing angles, and the brightness is good even for outdoor use in direct sunlight. I can't say much for the refresh rate since I keep it on 60 but I will say the DC dimming works a charm even if it's only available on 60 Hz mode. Touch is responsive and i haven't experienced any touch jitters, but the palm rejection is bad enough that I'd call the phone unusable without a case if you tend to hold the phone like I do.
Gesture Controll
As a long-time Oneplus user I do miss the 3 way switch for the ringer, but have found a compromise using the press and hold on the power button as a toggle between modes which has been working well for me. The other smart key functionality of swiping on the power button I've turned off as it's way too easy to accidentally activate when held in the right hand.
The screen off gestures for media control which I enjoyed on Oneplus are here in the Asus but are currently broken, the "ll" pause gesture instead reading out the time and not pausing the video for some reason, when that's fixed at least they are all very responsive.
The back double tap gesture is very inconsistent, I keep it on for the flashlight and haven't had any issues with false activations, but it often takes a few tries to activate.
Battery/Charging
Battery life has been good, getting through a day of heavy use without a problem on 60Hz mode. Charging is fast but does heat up the phone, I've kept mine on ultra steady charge mode which slows down charging to dispel heat and battery longevity issues (around 10W, normal steady charge is around 13W). The charger that came with the device is a C to C charger with a cable that works for data and power.
Performance
I'm not a mobile gamer so I've yet to push the processor in any meaningful way, badly optimized apps that I have had issues with in the past all work smoothly. Video playback/acceleration have been smooth as well as processing large file transfers. Boot up and restart times are very snappy.
Networking/Connectivity
No issues with my Canadian SIM, dual sim works fine. WiFi hasn't had problems with my WiFi 5 and 6 Routers even in dual channel mode which works seamlessly on dual channel networks connecting in both bands. 5G isn't widespread in my area so i haven't had a chance to test it, but 4G+ works as expected. On the physical ports side I have only been able to get USB 2 speeds out of the USB C port for file transfers which isn't really an issue for my use and the headphone jack packs a punch running my DT-770 80 ohms without a problem.
Cameras
They're definitely cameras, I'm not really a camera guy so I wouldn't know what to look for. I haven't had any noticable issues, photos do take a bit longer than my previous phones from pressing the button to the photo being taken but I assume that's because there's a lot more photo processing going on with newer phones. The back lenses do need to be wiped off most of the time since at least for me my fingers tend to naturally rest on them. Front camera also hasn't given me any issues but I'm not a huge fan of the metal ring inside which makes the hole punch more noticeable.
ZenUI
Played around with the launcher a bit before switching off of it, seems like a good relatively stock Android experience with some quality of life improvements. Hasn't given me a reason to switch away from Niagra launcher though (which works great on this device). The pull down menu looks good but could use a bit more in the way of customizability, notifications are a bit intrusive on the smaller screen but the smaller notifications option fixes that pretty well in exchange for needing to pull down the notification shade for quick access. Some other small gripes are that the bar underneath the keyboard is unable to be turned off is quite large relative to the screen height and in the activities view the app icons are above the apps which makes things like locking apps a bit difficult one handed.
Overall
This phone is definitely a purchase I don't regret, all the issues I've had thus far are definitely fixable through updates. I haven't had any of the hardware issues I've heard others mention like rattly volume buttons. Hopefully it does well enough for Asus to consider giving it longer support and the attention it needs to get its minor current issues fixed, or at least well enough to get decent support for third party roms. The price even importing the device from HK to Canada is very competitive for what you get. If there as any benchmarks people want me to run or questions they have about the device I'll keep an eye on the responses. Also if anyone has fixes for the issues mentioned I'm all ears (palm rejection, media control, etc...)
Thank you for the nice review.
I'm still waiting for my piece.
I want to ask you, since you are using 3rd launcher, I wonder if you are using gestures or navigation bar?
Purchased from mi4canada, came quick via DHL from HK and at a good price by Canadian import standards. It's unclear when the device will officially make its way to Canada, the zenfone 8 took a long while.
efkosk said:
Thank you for the nice review.
I'm still waiting for my piece.
I want to ask you, since you are using 3rd launcher, I wonder if you are using gestures or navigation bar?
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I'm using gestures, they work well with 3rt party launchers. Can't get rid of the bean at the bottom but it's easy to ignore.
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I'm using gestures, they work well with 3rt party launchers. Can't get rid of the bean at the bottom but it's easy to ignore.
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So my hope for Nova Launcher lives on! There was a glitch on all new mobile phones since A11. It only worked like a miracle on a couple of phones. I'm glad that Zenfone is one of them. Another reason for even greater joy.
efkosk said:
So my hope for Nova Launcher lives on! There was a glitch on all new mobile phones since A11. It only worked like a miracle on a couple of phones. I'm glad that Zenfone is one of them. Another reason for even greater joy.
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Never tried Nova, I'll install it and see, 1 min.
Update: gestures work fine
Nexr0n said:
Never tried Nova, I'll install it and see, 1 min.
Update: gestures work fine
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no glitch when using "home gesture" ?
efkosk said:
no glitch when using "home gesture" ?
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Not that i see at a cursory look, although I'm unfamiliar with the glitch so i don't know exactly what to look for. Best i can tell it works like it should.
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Not that i see at a cursory look, although I'm unfamiliar with the glitch so i don't know exactly what to look for. Best i can tell it works like it should.
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Thank you very much for your effort and time!
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no glitch when using "home gesture" ?
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Just wanted to add from my experience. I've been using nova launcher prime since I got the phone (over a week ago). And I have noticed that rarley but sometimes when you press the home button or unlock the screen you will get a blank screen showing only the wallpaper and only after you press the home button for a second time will the home screen actually load.
FYI I am using the navigation bar (buttons) and not the gesture one (I just hate the incompatibility with a lot of swipe supported apps e.g. Gmail, Solid Explorer etc ) so take it with a grain of salt if you use gesture you might not encounter this problem.
I have also encountered some other minor bugs but overall I am very pleased with the phone coming from my Galaxy S10.
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Like on other phones when using third-party launchers there is definitely a slight delay (a second or so) when using the home gesture until the launcher becomes responsive and starts accepting input.
HomerSp said:
Like on other phones when using third-party launchers there is definitely a slight delay (a second or so) when using the home gesture until the launcher becomes responsive and starts accepting input.
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Haven't experienced this issue with Niagra after over a week of use now (or on previous phones I've put it on), may be an issue with your launcher. A second delay would be very noticable.
Cheers for the review - very helpful as am considering getting one.
Looking around at the benchmarks from different reviews, the scores vary quite a bit. It looks like it depends on which performance mode it's in - high performance mode vs dynamic mode, and according to Anandtech the Zenfone 8's performance would also change depending on which refresh rate you had it in. But many reviewers haven't said what mode or refresh rate they've been using.
Could you perhaps run the Jetstream 2.0 benchmark (opens and runs in the website) and/or PCMark Work 3.0 (play store) in dynamic performance mode? In 120hz would be fantastic or in 60hz would still be good either.
It's a bit of pain and would take your time so perfectly understandable if you don't want to, so would like to say thanks for the review anyway!
@Plasmac
All of these on 120Hz, no performance modes enabled (manually disabled for pcmark which triggered an automatic one)
Jetstream 2: 128.004
Pcmark work 3.0: 16371
Geekbench 5: 1294/4075
Dew,
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All of these on 120Hz, no performance modes enabled (manually disabled for pcmark which triggered an automatic one)
Jetstream 2: 128.004
Pcmark work 3.0: 16371
Geekbench 5: 1294/4075
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Thank you very much for doing all those. It's really appreciated.
The non-performance mode isn't reducing the performance by much at all. That settles it for me then, the Anandtech review of the 8 put me off, but it seems tsmc 4nm has allowed good performance and decent battery life, so the 9 it is.
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The old known bug is sadly also present on this phone using gesture navigation.
Sadly the standard launcher is no substitute for Nova, so pick the lesser evil
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The old known bug is sadly also present on this phone using gesture navigation.
Sadly the standard launcher is no substitute for Nova, so pick the lesser evil
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Well thank you.
Can you try the solution via tasker? (I still don't have a mobile phone at home)
I managed to use the Nova launcher on the Pppo find N thanks to the Tasker app and this instruction:
Nova Launcher
Some lucky ones who have already received it could kindly try nova launche? I am especially interested in the transition between the external and internal screen portrait to landacape. Thank you in advance 😁😁
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There’s a lot to like about the way the Zenfone 9 looks. The obvious starting place is the size – thanks to using a small 5.9in display this is a small phone by modern standards, and at 169g it’s also impressively lightweight.
At 9.1mm thick it’s not the thinnest phone around, but you’d certainly not call it chunky, and that very slight extra thickness feels irrelevant once you factor in how compact the phone is overall.
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efkosk said:
Well thank you.
Can you try the solution via tasker? (I still don't have a mobile phone at home)
I managed to use the Nova launcher on the Pppo find N thanks to the Tasker app and this instruction:
Nova Launcher
Some lucky ones who have already received it could kindly try nova launche? I am especially interested in the transition between the external and internal screen portrait to landacape. Thank you in advance 😁😁
forum.xda-developers.com
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Sadly didn't work either. But from what I've read it's Google's fault and may have been fixed with A13, so maybe there's hope for the Z9 too