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Hi Everyone,
I thought I'd share some thoughts on this device after having purchased it yesterday afternoon.
I bought this phone because I felt it was the first device that gave me what I had been craving for a long time - an Android version of the iPhone 6s. I like the size, build and feel of the iPhone 6s/7, but not the software or the price.
I think I am in the minority of people who prefer a smaller handset, and even though Android devices tend to fit a lot more screen real estate into smaller bodies, I still feel that the 4.7in screen size is ideal for me.
The only phones that run Android of that size have been the Xperia compact line, and the Galaxy Alpha/A3 2016 models. There have been others, but only these have come close. Unfortunately, they have suffered compromised designs and specs that have left me wanting (I have owned them all, and this is my opinion which others are free to disagree with).
This new handset, however, has me ticking a lot of boxes.
- Size is fantastic. Just a little smaller than the iPhone 6s, and feels great in the hand. Premium materials, solid build quality, great ergonomics, clicky buttons, no camera hump.
- The display is good, not awesome, but vibrant and colourful without being too over the top. Can be tweaked to each user's preference, and gets both very bright and very dim.
- fingerprint scanner is fast and accurate.
- Camera is good, not amazing. An iPhone definitely trounces this setup, but I paid £280 sim free and my usage is not too demanding so it's absolutely fine for me. Daytime shots are actually very pleasant and I think here it punches above its weight; low light is where it struggles, but I feel that most shots at night are not too important for me so it's a compromise I'll happily make.
- Call quality is very good and it holds onto signal well in my area.
- Sound quality out of the side mounted speaker is actually surprisingly good, at least as good as an iPhone 6s. Headphone performance is also excellent .
- Performance has been nothing short of excellent. I feel we have reached a point where there are not that many tasks that we do that actually need a Snapdragon 821 to run smoothly - granted, some 3d games need serious power on tap to run at their highest settings on a quad HD screen, but with a 720p screen, the A3 2017 runs pretty much anything at best quality without delay or hiccup. And everyday operation is smooth as butter without any lag or slowdowns. Granted, this is very early days, but I am hopeful this will continue.
- Battery life is astounding. I charged it on Saturday night and hit 100% at 10.20pm. I took it off charger and only put it back on at 2% while writing this review and I had nearly 9 hrs and 30mins of screen on time over 1 day and 3 hours. That includes 64 mins of voice calls. Please note that I was home all day on Wifi, but still, I have never seen times like that, not least from a 2300 odd mah battery. Awesome. It also charges pretty fast.
- Other stuff - water proofing is great, finally have USB-C, charges really quickly with the included adaptive charging brick, finally has a blue light filter.
And now for the balance of the review:
- Slippery despite its size, so a case or a skin is advisable.
- 16gb of internal memory nearly broke the deal for me, but a 64gb card and some transferring of apps has left me with 3.8gb left to play with internally. Definitely not ideal and a very cheap move from Samsung, but I'm also hoping Nougat brings adoptable storage soon which will eliminate this as an issue (here's hoping!).
- No notification light is something I have to adjust to, but the always on display does help *somewhat* ( I prefer the light as it's something that alerts me from afar, whereas the display is on regardless of whether you have a notification or not).
- Camera as described above has some shortcomings.
- Usual Samsung software compromised with bloatware - lots of useless stuff on here that eats into that 16gb that I cannot delete (Microsoft suite, Samsung junk, usual duplicate apps that we all use the Google version of). I'll keep trying the usual routes to rid the phone of this but I may have to wait a while.
Other than these points, I am really pleased. It feels nice to have paid relatively little for a device that feels so premium. I know there are other phones at relatively low prices that kill this on specs (OP3, Axon 7, Honor 8, etc) but they are generally much bigger handsets, so for anyone looking at something smaller, this is a great buy.
TL;DR, it's great, buy one if you like small phones ?
I always wanted a phone with an small amoled screen and water proofing so i jumped ship from the huge mate 8 to witch i am comparing. I agree with your pros but i found: 1-the camera is average and lacking OIS (need very stable hands), 2- cannot use sd card as default storage (very handy on mate 8), 3- phone very slippery, 4- Design and Screen of a3 2016 seemed better (personal opinion), 5- no stutter but little slow (comparing to mate 8). Only lacks IR blaster to check all boxes but we can't have everything.
Great feedback, thanks guys.
You mentioned not display is good but not awesome, could you elaborate? Is issue clarity or something else? Thanks.
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mario24601 said:
Great feedback, thanks guys.
You mentioned not display is good but not awesome, could you elaborate? Is issue clarity or something else? Thanks.
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Coming from a larger phone with a quad HD screen, it's never going to look as dazzlingly sharp, but on a 4.7 inch screen 720p still looks great and it is perfectly sharp and clear - if you've ever seen an iPhone screen, this feels much the same. Colours can be adjusted to your preference - I prefer accurate rather than punchy, but you can set it to either or somewhere in between.
I've had everything from a galaxy s6 which has crazy high pixel density to a Moto x, and personally I prefer the 720p smaller screen because it's far more efficient and I don't notice the pixel density difference after an hour or two.
Hope this helps.
Sunil_Kaura said:
Coming from a larger phone with a quad HD screen, it's never going to look as dazzlingly sharp, but on a 4.7 inch screen 720p still looks great and it is perfectly sharp and clear - if you've ever seen an iPhone screen, this feels much the same. Colours can be adjusted to your preference - I prefer accurate rather than punchy, but you can set it to either or somewhere in between.
I've had everything from a galaxy s6 which has crazy high pixel density to a Moto x, and personally I prefer the 720p smaller screen because it's far more efficient and I don't notice the pixel density difference after an hour or two.
Hope this helps.
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Thanks!
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Thanks for sharing this. I am also very happy with this phone so far. It's my second day with it, the battery is at 39% with 4h45 sot and 1d3h total since unplugged. In a night of 9 hours, the phone just lost 3%.
I have noticed though that wifi is constantly detected as running by betterbatterysats, even if it's turned off. Any idea how to fix this?
patci32 said:
I have noticed though that wifi is constantly detected as running by betterbatterysats, even if it's turned off. Any idea how to fix this?
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Have you checked in Settings -> Connections -> Location?
There are some wifi settings behind it (in location method and improve accuracy) you can deactivate.
F157 said:
Have you checked in Settings -> Connections -> Location?
There are some wifi settings behind it (in location method and improve accuracy) you can deactivate.
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Indeed, I didn't know. Thanks, I hope this works.
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F157 said:
Have you checked in Settings -> Connections -> Location?
There are some wifi settings behind it (in location method and improve accuracy) you can deactivate.
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Also, could you please tell me if you use other settings to improve your battery life?
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Indeed, I didn't know. Thanks, I hope this works.
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Also, could you please tell me if you use other settings to improve your battery life?
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Mm, nothing special yet, as I'm really happy with battery life so far.
What I did in the past with other devices is for example use the app greenify (needs root) to hibernate apps you don't want to run in the background.
Also, something that really helped me with my old s4 mini was to set mobile network to 2g, and only switch to lte once required.
And as always, use wifi instead of mobile network as often as possible, disable Bluetooth if not needed, etc.
£280?!?! That's highway robbery for a device with 720p, small battery and everything in budget-range. You get this, all the bells and whistles for £150 with a well known Chinese brand. Now I know why I'd never ever get a Slamsug.
iMaterial said:
£280?!?! That's highway robbery for a device with 720p, small battery and everything in budget-range. You get this, all the bells and whistles for £150 with a well known Chinese brand. Now I know why I'd never ever get a Slamsug.
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Please could you elaborate on one of these phones that you can get for £150? I'm pretty clued up but if I've missed something I'd be keen for you to share what you've found for myself and the community - my mother needs a new phone so if you've seen something better than the A3 for less I'd love to buy it
Sunil_Kaura said:
Please could you elaborate on one of these phones that you can get for £150? I'm pretty clued up but if I've missed something I'd be keen for you to share what you've found for myself and the community - my mother needs a new phone so if you've seen something better than the A3 for less I'd love to buy it
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Which stats are you looking for? Battery? Screen res? SoC power?
Compare, with €150 phones, battery, res, SoC, well anything really part from 10 mm in size.
iMaterial said:
Which stats are you looking for? Battery? Screen res? SoC power?
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Well I'm referring to your comment that you could get a better phone for £150, so I guess I'm wondering what phone you are saying is better for that price...
The battery life of the A3 is epic, the PPI is still perfectly decent (720p on 4.7 inches is still perfectly usable and arguably 1080p is unnecessary) and the SoC is both fat and frugal.
So really I'm wondering whether you can get something the same or better for less money
I'd be happy with an alternative with same form factor. Any recommendations? The A3 still not available in US.
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mario24601 said:
I'd be happy with an alternative with same form factor. Any recommendations? The A3 still not available in US.
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4.5 to 4.7" screen, 720p res. 2015 - today, only 4-5 options comes up.
http://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?nYearMin=2015&nHeightMax=135&nDisplayResMin=921600&fDisplayInchesMin=4.5&fDisplayInchesMax=4.7
Only A3, Sony X and Z5 compact, Xiaomi Redmi 2 Pro has enough RAM, battery and goodies. LG Spirit and Alcatel Idol 3 only has 1 GB and 1.5 GB RAM, not really a viable option.
Sunil_Kaura said:
Well I'm referring to your comment that you could get a better phone for £150, so I guess I'm wondering what phone you are saying is better for that price...
The battery life of the A3 is epic, the PPI is still perfectly decent (720p on 4.7 inches is still perfectly usable and arguably 1080p is unnecessary) and the SoC is both fat and frugal.
So really I'm wondering whether you can get something the same or better for less money
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The Redmi 4 Pro can be had for €150 and its battery life is Epic also, the Redmi 3 Pro is way better than A3 and Redmi 4 Pro, with 720p but alas 5". Redmi note 3 is also really good, for even less than €150. Samsung is priced at least £100 than it should, but the same can be said about Sony and Apple also.
iMaterial said:
4.5 to 4.7" screen, 720p res. 2015 - today, only 4-5 options comes up.
http://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?nYearMin=2015&nHeightMax=135&nDisplayResMin=921600&fDisplayInchesMin=4.5&fDisplayInchesMax=4.7
Only A3, Sony X and Z5 compact, Xiaomi Redmi 2 Pro has enough RAM, battery and goodies. LG Spirit and Alcatel Idol 3 only has 1 GB and 1.5 GB RAM, not really a viable option.
The Redmi 4 Pro can be had for €150 and its battery life is Epic also, the Redmi 3 Pro is way better than A3 and Redmi 4 Pro, with 720p but alas 5". Redmi note 3 is also really good, for even less than €150. Samsung is priced at least £100 than it should, but the same can be said about Sony and Apple also.
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I agree the Xiaomi phones are compelling - my main issue is the fact that they are all grey imports - many purchasers have reported that they do not get any warranty support whatsoever, they generally require a more experienced android user to side load the Google play store, and they have sketchy android skins which have also been reported to spy on their users.
Don't get me wrong, Touchwiz (or Grace UI as it's now known) is not exactly great, but I'd rather know I can walk into a Samsung store and get a problem fixed than rely on a Hong Kong based website for support.
I think it's only fair to compare this phone to what can be had in Europe, and in that regard, it blows the Sony X Compact, Alcatel and others out of the water.
And given its build quality and design, it's good value compared to phones that retail for double this cost.
Also, most Xiaomi phones don't come with NFC (no android pay), some don't have scratch resistant glass, no quick charging, etc
The A3 also uses a processor built on the 14nm process which is up to date technology, whereas the Xiaomi phones at that price point use outdated processors like the 650 and 616.
The 14nm process is what gives the A3 it's great battery life without needing a 4000mAh battery and heavier construction.
A final point - check out the videos of the Redmi note 3 bend test - not encouraging! (I will add the Redmi 3 pro did significantly better though which is good progress).
Sunil_Kaura said:
I agree the Xiaomi phones are compelling - my main issue is the fact that they are all grey imports - many purchasers have reported that they do not get any warranty support whatsoever, they generally require a more experienced android user to side load the Google play store, and they have sketchy android skins which have also been reported to spy on their users.
Don't get me wrong, Touchwiz (or Grace UI as it's now known) is not exactly great, but I'd rather know I can walk into a Samsung store and get a problem fixed than rely on a Hong Kong based website for support.
I think it's only fair to compare this phone to what can be had in Europe, and in that regard, it blows the Sony X Compact, Alcatel and others out of the water.
And given its build quality and design, it's good value compared to phones that retail for double this cost.
Also, most Xiaomi phones don't come with NFC (no android pay), some don't have scratch resistant glass, no quick charging, etc
The A3 also uses a processor built on the 14nm process which is up to date technology, whereas the Xiaomi phones at that price point use outdated processors like the 650 and 616.
The 14nm process is what gives the A3 it's great battery life without needing a 4000mAh battery and heavier construction.
A final point - check out the videos of the Redmi note 3 bend test - not encouraging! (I will add the Redmi 3 pro did significantly better though which is good progress).
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The Redmi 4 Pro that I bought for a friend in Jan has the 14 nm Snapdragon 625. I can agree that it might lack a few finishing touches, but I could buy it for €150 inc shipping from aliexpress and get it in 7-9 days. But it's half the price, and I know the Adreno is a better GPU than the Mali.
Both on the Xiaomi and the Slamsug, first thing I would do it TWRP and LAOS ROM, they can keep their crap TW and MIUI, can't stand it.
Never the less, it shouldn't be 2x the price for something that is almost inferior in some points and better on others. Esp not in 2017, maybe some years ago, but every day there are better and better phones for under €200, like the Moto G5 and such, only problem is they are so damn big, and big phones are 99/100 new that are coming out, these days, sadly.
iMaterial said:
The Redmi 4 Pro that I bought for a friend in Jan has the 14 nm Snapdragon 625. I can agree that it might lack a few finishing touches, but I could buy it for €150 inc shipping from aliexpress and get it in 7-9 days. But it's half the price, and I know the Adreno is a better GPU than the Mali.
Both on the Xiaomi and the Slamsug, first thing I would do it TWRP and LAOS ROM, they can keep their crap TW and MIUI, can't stand it.
Never the less, it shouldn't be 2x the price for something that is almost inferior in some points and better on others. Esp not in 2017, maybe some years ago, but every day there are better and better phones for under €200, like the Moto G5 and such, only problem is they are so damn big, and big phones are 99/100 new that are coming out, these days, sadly.
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Can't disagree there - it's frustrating how few phones there are under 5 inches available.
I will say though that besides the Xiaomi phones which look to have a nice build, the Moto G4 is very cheap feeling, as are most of the other phones available here in that price bracket, so I would happily pay a little more for a nice looking and premium feeling device.
If the Samsung we're £220 I think it'd sell by the bucket load as £20-40 above phones like the G4 would likely tempt many up, but at £280 I agree that it's a harder sell for the lay person.
I'm looking at from the other side - it's a mild compromise from an S7 or a iPhone 6s/7 , but it's half the price, rather than double that of a cheaper device.
And it absolutely looks and feels as good as a £5-600 phone.
Sunil_Kaura said:
Can't disagree there - it's frustrating how few phones there are under 5 inches available.
I will say though that besides the Xiaomi phones which look to have a nice build, the Moto G4 is very cheap feeling, as are most of the other phones available here in that price bracket, so I would happily pay a little more for a nice looking and premium feeling device.
If the Samsung we're £220 I think it'd sell by the bucket load as £20-40 above phones like the G4 would likely tempt many up, but at £280 I agree that it's a harder sell for the lay person.
I'm looking at from the other side - it's a mild compromise from an S7 or a iPhone 6s/7 , but it's half the price, rather than double that of a cheaper device.
And it absolutely looks and feels as good as a £5-600 phone.
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There are so many on this forum and in other places that airs the same frustration, so few options for a mobile ca 130mm lenght and 4.5 - 4.7" screen (720p at least), that I'm starting to wonder if we should do something about it, maybe talk to so manufacturer to make at least 1-2 phones under 5"
The Redmi 4 Pro I used for a few weeks felt no worse in build than the Iphone 6 or 6S I have tried a few times, both in metal around 140 - 145mm size. But for €310 I can get a Xiaomi Mi 5 with 820 and have €100 in change over. I have never held a Moto G, last Motorola I have tried was the 4.3" Razr Maxx and it felt solid as a rock.
The J5 goes for around €180-190 here and I see no reason why this smaller, entry level A3 shouldn't be priced in a similar fashion. These days due to deaths in the family and such I'm so poor that €100 is more than I can spare and my Android mobile that I have now is from 2012 or so, single core with 512 MB RAM and I hate every minute when I'm using it. I'm lucky to have been given a 2009 Sony Ericsson C901 as my main caller.
Just my 1¢ (It used to be 2¢, but due to the recession I've had to make cutbacks)
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What annoys me a lot is also that this A3 is bigger than the A3 (2016) and the battery is only 50 mAh bigger. They could easily have put a 2500 - 2800 mAh battery in this one, just like the Sony Z3, Z5 or X compact, which is 5 mm smaller.
My last perfect phone was the original moto x. I still use it. I am not a power user but the X just needs lil more power but on cm13 it's not bad.
I don't even mind going with old phone as long as has some custom roms to improve performance.
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Does anyone here regret of buying a poco in place of Mi 8 ? My one reason of regret is LCD screen.
Here in Europe (Latvia) mi 8 costs like only a little bit more than poco (300 euros vs 350) and it has an OLED screen.
At the time of my purchase, mi 8 cost significantly more than poco for some unknown reason but after a very short time it dropped a lot in price.
Dont get me wrong, i love the phone and it really is incredible for the price, but just wanted to share
Anyone wanting Mi8 for its display should always check Notebookcheck's review, they have much more detailed testing of the display hardware than GSMArena.
If you don't like Poco you can sell it off and buy other phone. Mi 8 has smaller battery for me I like 4000mAh. No phone is perfect it's just a matter of taste.
Not a bit. I love it, I can sacrifice a bit of screen quality for more battery. Better then sticking to a wire
I hate some of the software kinks that it has. But otherwise the phone is brilliant. My call quality has improved significantly and that battery life is just amazing.
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I'm currently using the Zuk Z2 plus and looking for an upgrade as the battery is worn out. Is this phone good if I get it at 15k? How bad are the ghost touches and any fix? Any other issue?
Or should I go for Redmi K20 as K20 pro is out of my budget..
Don't waste your money on any Xaiomi phone, better wait and save more the new phone.
don't buy
don't buy it, even paying 7k is enough for this in 2019, have been using it for 7 months, lot of issues facing, specially signal issue, freezing, battery backup, updating issue, now after updating to september 2019 update facing google cam stuck, don't take it, you can buy K20 at flipkart BB sale or realme 5 pro or XT or X...........
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Most Probably You Are Using Old Batch !
I'm Using It From 1 Year And No Issues At All !
Newer Models Got New Panel !
The First Batch Was Sh*t, But They Could Be Fixed Just By Using Proper Kernel With Proper Driver.
If You Don't Know That, Don't Mislead Annoying!
You can get even more discount by using an axis bank debit credit card and icici credit card, which technically brings the price down to 13.5k. And at this price that's an absolute steak. Nothing comes close. Go for it
I added a poll please vote . I'm still confused and only 5 days left for sale
So let me give a little comparison.
If you choose the Poco F1, you get an LCD display, Snapdragon 845 which is great if you plan to play any heavy games. SD card slot and a notch. 2 Cameras on the back (''wide''/normal camera and a depth sensor which is used to detect edges when you do a portrait shot)
If you choose the K20, you get an AMOLED display, you get a Snapdragon 730 which is still great but not as powerful as the Snapdragon 845, you can still play heavy games but not at high FPS or you will have to lower the graphics quality. You lose the MicroSD slot. ''Bezel Less'' display. You get 3 cameras on the back (wide, telephoto which is great for portrait shots and an ultrawide which is great for landscape shots).
If you want to play heavy gpu games, go for the Poco F1, most of the ghost touches are fixed with either updates from MIUI or various kernels on this site (some say ghost touches occur because they installed a screen protector). If you don't plan to play any heavy gpu games and you only use it for social media, videos, light-medium gpu games, go for the K20.
danielbulan97 said:
So let me give a little comparison.
If you choose the Poco F1, you get an LCD display, Snapdragon 845 which is great if you plan to play any heavy games. SD card slot and a notch. 2 Cameras on the back (''wide''/normal camera and a depth sensor which is used to detect edges when you do a portrait shot)
If you choose the K20, you get an AMOLED display, you get a Snapdragon 730 which is still great but not as powerful as the Snapdragon 845, you can still play heavy games but not at high FPS or you will have to lower the graphics quality. You lose the MicroSD slot. ''Bezel Less'' display. You get 3 cameras on the back (wide, telephoto which is great for portrait shots and an ultrawide which is great for landscape shots).
If you want to play heavy gpu games, go for the Poco F1, most of the ghost touches are fixed with either updates from MIUI or various kernels on this site (some say ghost touches occur because they installed a screen protector). If you don't plan to play any heavy gpu games and you only use it for social media, videos, light-medium gpu games, go for the K20.
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I want good camera and battery(installing GCam and custom ROMs). I have seen Pocos display and it looks great! I don't mind AMOLED display nor do I need MicroSD.
Does Poco have ESim?
wow you haven't bought it YET ?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/poco-f1/help/worth-buying-t3960723
I thought we closed this chapter!
I replied you there and I still stand for it!
yes the AUG2019 update had touch drivers issues but I am reading reports that on vendor 10.3.8 they fixed it
YasuHamed said:
wow you haven't bought it YET ?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/poco-f1/help/worth-buying-t3960723
I thought we closed this chapter!
I replied you there and I still stand for it!
yes the AUG2019 update had touch drivers issues but I am reading reports that on vendor 10.3.8 they fixed it
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:laugh: i couldnt decide then but now the sale will start soon and the cost factor is great so was pretty i should buy it now
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:laugh: i couldnt decide then but now the sale will start soon and the cost factor is great so was pretty i should buy it now
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GopalKaul said:
:laugh: i couldnt decide then but now the sale will start soon and the cost factor is great so was pretty i should buy it now
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With Google Cam you will get great photos out of both phones, sometimes the stock camera outperforms the Gcam. Also MKBHD did a camera blind test with a bunch of high end phones and the Poco F1 got 2nd place. And if you plan on flashing ROMs, you will find great ROMs and Kernels that will give you great battery life.
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:laugh: i couldnt decide then but now the sale will start soon and the cost factor is great so was pretty i should buy it now
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POCO F1 is the best phone you can get at ₹15K as it has second fastest Qualcomm processor. So don't worry just buy, you don't need post a poll. But buy it from Amazon, because ₹1K cheaper in Amazon. Or else you can buy Asus Zenfone 5Z for ₹17K which is also a good option as it has great design & build quality and HiRes earphones in the box.
So finally we have another Poco launching soon in India.
Its nothing but a rebranded Redmi K30 starting with a price tag of Rs. 15999.
As an F1 user what are your thoughts on X2?
Is it worth putting money on if someone is using F1 and wants to upgrade?
Or its a another waste attempt by Xiaomi to compete with already few months old Realme X2?
Should we keep our hopes on for F2 or X2 Pro with supposedly SD865 chipset or move our faith to Realme with the likes of Realme X2 Pro and upcoming X50 5G?
For me, disappointing. Not just because it's a rebrand of Redmi K30, but also because of the specs. They're not that impressive, given the fact that we were waiting 1,5 yrs for a new phone (which isn't even new) Thought, I like the 120Hz display and big battery. Cameras are unnecessary for me (having a quad set-up).
So I'll rather stick with my F1 until they release a truly new smartphone or "flagship killer"
In conclusion, this one is a waste of money if you own F1. It's better to invest in other Xiaomi phones or wait for F2 or X2 Pro. I wouldn't necessarily lose hope in Xiaomi (or POCO).
Not worth it, with gcam or camera will take better pictures and the cpu on f1 is stronger.
It's cheap (in India, at any rate)
Processor seems a downgrade vs the F1
"Master of speed?" Not so much
Why bother with the 120hz screen when the processor won't support highest settings on most games?
Camera looks decent, from the first look
Not an upgrade from the F1
Let's see if they can do any better with the F2 (whenever that emerges)
Its a different phone all together. I don't think it's meant to be upgrade or successor of f1, as its design philosophy differs.
On the phone itself, Only thing going for it is 120Hz which I'm not sure how much of real life diff it will make. I think the vanilla K20 might be better deal due to notch less AMOLED screen and zoom camera. If k20 gets a rate cut, I would pick k20 over x2 anyday.
Poco F1 users won't go for Poco X2, period.
There is nothing better in the X2 compared F1 except 120hz. Not even Samoled.
There is a reason why F1 was priced at 20k rupees and X2 is 16k rupees.
Upgrade can only b considered if there are:-
-Samoled with/without 120hz
-flagship grade processor
-telephoto lens
-traditional fingerprint is faster than under display
-no more ugly notches, waterdrop is okay
-plz no fancy face unlock/ir camera if its not 100% safe like iphone's face id
-battery is always gud on xiaomi devices
-lotsa dev support just like F1
-doesnt matter if it ships with miui as long as we can flash PE.
-stereo speakers or not its okay
Keep the poco line vry clear, if phones like X2 are launched under poco brand users wil get confused.
I hope this clears the air.
Will stick with the F1 and also have realme 5 as back up device and a Asus Zenfone 3 ultra and lg g6 and a LG v30 so not looking for anything yet.......
If it's not a flagship CPU inside (and it isn't...), then I couldn't care less.
The X2 isn't the successor to the F1, but more of a teaser. Yes, it's just a rebranded K30, but as per interviews, this is not the F2. A real successor will come out, just no info yet when.
Hopefully it's not a rebranded K30, but more of an upgrade to the F1. I do hope they bring back the infrared face unlock. And I'm glad they still have the sd slot (that's what kept me from upgrading to the K20 Pro/Mi 9T pro last year).
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Here's my take on the X2 and the upcoming F2. If they can keep most of the stuff from the X2 like the camera, SD Slot, keep a jack, 4500mah battery, faster charging speed, the 120hz display (I'm fine with LCD just to keep costs down, and some gaming monitors with high refresh rates are still LCD and are fantastic, so it's fine). Then maybe keep the plastic back from the F1 (not a fan of glass, especially since the K30/X2 has a glass/plastic combo that isn't nice since it may likely just compromise the structure of the phone specially with falls. Note that the sides of the phone are plastic and not metal, which is bad news for integral structure as not only will the glass possibly break easier, but the plastic may break too.). Or they could go the kevlar route like the last time, or something different like the papaya leather of the concept one phone.
Also, keep the infrared face unlock. That's one of the best features of the F1 (my opinion). I don't mind the notch, so long as notifications are better implemented. Also, have a notif light.
I thought Poco brand was exclusively for Flagship device in budget, until this X2 launched. X2 seems like a mid-range device, They are just using the brandname to get most out of K30 series. Indian users prefer Redmi Note series for mid-range. X2 isn't worth it, people would rather spend it on K20 which offers AMOLED display with same processor.
I'll stick with F1 for sure ! i'm so disappointed .. i almost sold my F1 .. lucky i didn't !
chazy chaz said:
I'll stick with F1 for sure ! i'm so disappointed .. i almost sold my F1 .. lucky i didn't !
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Heee i sold it to S10 , will switch if they made poco x2 maybe with pro version with SDM 855 or 865
Xiaomi should've put a 855 (or at least 765g) instead of spending in that useless glass/aluminium body.
The whole purpose of Pocophone/Poco is offering flagship performance at midrange/low midrange price so using glass body is opposing that purpose. Glass body adds no performance and increases cost. Even waterproofing would have had some practical purpose.
Another thing to mention is regarding camera: should've put a telephoto lens rather than macro and depth sensor. Its much more useful.
Rear mounted fingerprint scanner is much better than side mounted one with a protective casing on.
I am waiting for f2 ,this x2 is not worth to upgrade .
I don't really consider X2 as the successor of F1. More like a spin off. Kinda like mid-range Galaxy phones like A series
In my opinion its defiantly not an upgrade from F1. I still loves my bery.
Hello K40 Pro / Mi11X Pro Users,
I am planning to Buy K40 Pro 8GB 256 GB Variant within few days. I play PUBG regularly. Also I love photography. I have seen some people are saying that K40 Pro heats a lots, specially on PUBG HDR Gaming or Camera App.
Is that True ?
Thank You Very Much.
I would love to listen to your K40 Pro / Mi 11i / Mi 11X Pro experience.
If you play heavy graphic game like genshij impact or crank up the graphic of some game to the max then the heating issue is real. After all only the gaming phone like rog 5 or magic 6 could handle the heating issue of the 888 on heavy game.
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Hello K40 Pro / Mi11X Pro Users,
I am planning to Buy K40 8GB 256 GB Variant within few days. I play PUBG regularly. Also I love photography. I have seen some people are saying that K40 Pro heats a lots, specially on PUBG HDR Gaming or Camera App.
Is that True ?
Thank You Very Much.
I would love to listen to your K40 Pro / Mi 11i / Mi 11X Pro experience.
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Use it for a full week and seem like there're no Heating issue with my device.
no heating issue with hdr pubg very smooth for longer time
makiothekid said:
Use it for a full week and seem like there're no Heating issue with my device.
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Do you play heavy games ???
Blezi said:
If you play heavy graphic game like genshij impact or crank up the graphic of some game to the max then the heating issue is real. After all only the gaming phone like rog 5 or magic 6 could handle the heating issue of the 888 on heavy game.
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I will not play heavy games too much. May be PUBG for one hour in Smooth Extreme . Will it make the phone heated ?
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no heating issue with hdr pubg very smooth for longer time
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Thank you very much for clearing my confusion
AveyBD said:
Thank you very much for clearing my confusion
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Yeah just because of bloatware and background process eating cpu constantly so disable or delete them completely with root then no heating issue at all
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Do you play heavy games ???
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I play Arena of valor at max setting 122hz, watch youtube for hours.
Any Indian website that resells the Mi 11X Pro? I've already tried Big Brother Google, no positive results...
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Yeah just because of bloatware and background process eating cpu constantly so disable or delete them completely with root then no heating issue at all
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What exactly did you disable? I had the K40 Pro Plus and dumped it (was running Xiaomi.eu and planned to dev a kernel for it) but it would heat up just downloading apps, pretty much anything I did on it would make the entire top half of the device "cook." I put a temperature gun to it and it was ridiculous how high it got. The only thing that worked was putting a radiator cooler on it, and well, I really couldn't stand carrying around a radiator fan and a USB-C cable with me just so the phone wouldn't overheat. Back to my Op8T since just curious what you disabled to remove the heat.
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What exactly did you disable? I had the K40 Pro Plus and dumped it (was running Xiaomi.eu and planned to dev a kernel for it) but it would heat up just downloading apps, pretty much anything I did on it would make the entire top half of the device "cook." I put a temperature gun to it and it was ridiculous how high it got. The only thing that worked was putting a radiator cooler on it, and well, I really couldn't stand carrying around a radiator fan and a USB-C cable with me just so the phone wouldn't overheat. Back to my Op8T since just curious what you disabled to remove the heat.
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EDIT: And to answer your question, some discussed disabling NFC by removing its components in order to stop the heating while using the .EU builds.
To be fair, I have been criticizing the recent choices of smartphone makers, and I feel like the latest one (plastic frames) made the issue with the SD888 even worse.
My K20 Pro (and many other flagships before 2021) heats up while under heavy use, but it dissipates the heat thanks to its aluminum frame (and it, although not as much and jokingly, can use one's hands as "water cooling" thanks to the blood flow).
I usually don't like people who mumble about conspiracies, but this trend feels like a slippery slope (it feels like the manufacturers are slowly "testing" which BS they can shove down the customers' throats without backlash).
First the headphone jack, then the notch (while there was a pop-up mechanism as an alternative, people complain how it's a moving part but aren't aware that a replacement is up to around 20$), then the "environmentally-friendly" lack of a charger in flagships and now the use of plastic.
But the price gets higher and the value stagnates or actually gets traded off.
I considered buying the Mi 11i but then I saw all the cases of overheating. Then I thought "well, the OnePlus 9 costs at least 200$ more here, it will probably have a metal frame and better thermals if they want you to pay so much". But lo and behold, it also has a plastic frame and to "cover" that, they capped the in-game fps to 60 so people wouldn't see the mess that the SD888 is.
I am honestly appalled by the fact that there are so many phones released by Xiaomi this year but not a single one is an optimal choice.
The Redmi Note 10 Pro has a good screen and a 108MP camera but its CPU is mediocre and it can't record beyond [email protected]
The Poco F3 has a great CPU that doesn't overheat but has the same 48MP camera as my Redmi K20 Pro while officially only supporting [email protected] (while the K20 Pro shoots [email protected] from the get go, and I know GCam lets you enforce [email protected] on the F3 but that's just an improvisation).
The Mi11i has a 108MP camera but its CPU overheats due to the incompetence of Xiaomi and Qualcomm when it comes to thermal design.
And the Mi 11 has a curved, IMO overkill 1440p screen (I dislike curved screens as someone who owned a Galaxy S9+, and I can say the same about 1440p smartphone screens), a 108MP camera but an unattractive design and an even higher price tag.
My point:
For the same reasons you mentioned (and more), I am going to steer clear of the SD888, and am buying the Poco F3 instead of the Mi 11i since the price here is 200$ lower, there is an active development for it and because my K20 Pro is damaged and dying.
Yet it's frustrating how there are so many new phones nowadays but none can provide what I want without having to pay as much as for a goddamn gaming laptop(which I didn't have to do 2 years ago when I bought an "all-screen" phone with a headphone jack, flagship processor with decent thermals, an aluminium frame and a decent camera for 400$ - the Redmi K20 Pro).
2 years later, you pretty much trade a 60Hz screen for 120Hz and a metal frame for a plastic one (and thus potentially worse thermals) while losing the headphone jack and getting a hole blown through the screen for a selfie camera one uses maybe twice a day on average (unless their self-esteem is so low that they need their ego stroked every hour in the form of liked selfies).
To each their own, but nowadays it feels like there is less of a "choice" while buying a phone, and rather a matter of "picking the less disappointing option".
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EDIT: And to answer your question, some discussed disabling NFC by removing its components in order to stop the heating while using the .EU builds.
To be fair, I have been criticizing the recent choices of smartphone makers, and I feel like the latest one (plastic frames) made the issue with the SD888 even worse.
My K20 Pro (and many other flagships before 2021) heats up while under heavy use, but it dissipates the heat thanks to its aluminum frame (and it, although not as much and jokingly, can use one's hands as "water cooling" thanks to the blood flow).
I usually don't like people who mumble about conspiracies, but this trend feels like a slippery slope (it feels like the manufacturers are slowly "testing" which BS they can shove down the customers' throats without backlash).
First the headphone jack, then the notch (while there was a pop-up mechanism as an alternative, people complain how it's a moving part but aren't aware that a replacement is up to around 20$), then the "environmentally-friendly" lack of a charger in flagships and now the use of plastic.
But the price gets higher and the value stagnates or actually gets traded off.
I considered buying the Mi 11i but then I saw all the cases of overheating. Then I thought "well, the OnePlus 9 costs at least 200$ more here, it will probably have a metal frame and better thermals if they want you to pay so much". But lo and behold, it also has a plastic frame and to "cover" that, they capped the in-game fps to 60 so people wouldn't see the mess that the SD888 is.
I am honestly appalled by the fact that there are so many phones released by Xiaomi this year but not a single one is an optimal choice.
The Redmi Note 10 Pro has a good screen and a 108MP camera but its CPU is mediocre and it can't record beyond [email protected]
The Poco F3 has a great CPU that doesn't overheat but has the same 48MP camera as my Redmi K20 Pro while officially only supporting [email protected] (while the K20 Pro shoots [email protected] from the get go, and I know GCam lets you enforce [email protected] on the F3 but that's just an improvisation).
The Mi11i has a 108MP camera but its CPU overheats due to the incompetence of Xiaomi and Qualcomm when it comes to thermal design.
And the Mi 11 has a curved, IMO overkill 1440p screen (I dislike curved screens as someone who owned a Galaxy S9+, and I can say the same about 1440p smartphone screens), a 108MP camera but an unattractive design and an even higher price tag.
My point:
For the same reasons you mentioned (and more), I am going to steer clear of the SD888, and am buying the Poco F3 instead of the Mi 11i since the price here is 200$ lower, there is an active development for it and because my K20 Pro is damaged and dying.
Yet it's frustrating how there are so many new phones nowadays but none can provide what I want without having to pay as much as for a goddamn gaming laptop(which I didn't have to do 2 years ago when I bought an "all-screen" phone with a headphone jack, flagship processor with decent thermals, an aluminium frame and a decent camera for 400$ - the Redmi K20 Pro).
2 years later, you pretty much trade a 60Hz screen for 120Hz and a metal frame for a plastic one (and thus potentially worse thermals) while losing the headphone jack and getting a hole blown through the screen for a selfie camera one uses maybe twice a day on average (unless their self-esteem is so low that they need their ego stroked every hour in the form of liked selfies).
To each their own, but nowadays it feels like there is less of a "choice" while buying a phone, and rather a matter of "picking the less disappointing option".
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spot on, don't know why xiaomi has been going in this direction but i honestly can't find an optimal choice to upgrade from my K20 pro