I think I'll be buying a V30 but I am not sure yet which model is better for installing roms and stuff, I think it's the H932 but wanted to check here first. Also should I buy the V30 or a OnePlus 5T?
KukkiGolo said:
I think I'll be buying a V30 but I am not sure yet which model is better for installing roms and stuff, I think it's the H932 but wanted to check here first. Also should I buy the V30 or a OnePlus 5T?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The h932 is definitely NOT the model you want to go for. I would go for the us998 or the H930 personally.
JohnFawkes said:
The h932 is definitely NOT the model you want to go for. I would go for the us998 or the H930 personally.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Are you sure the US998 is good for roms? Almost every ROM here is for the H930 or H932.
Also, if I plan to keep the phone for 4 years do you think I should get the V30+ or OnePlus 5T?
KukkiGolo said:
Are you sure the US998 is good for roms? Almost every ROM here is for the H930 or H932.
Also, if I plan to keep the phone for 4 years do you think I should get the V30+ or OnePlus 5T?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
H930 is the best for roms and rooting. And v30+ is better than op5t bcz u get secondary camera as a wide angle camera. Then u can just download the gcam for better portrait mode pics. Lg is slow in just 1 thing, THE SOFTWARE.
KukkiGolo said:
I think I'll be buying a V30 but I am not sure yet which model is better for installing roms and stuff, I think it's the H932 but wanted to check here first. Also should I buy the V30 or a OnePlus 5T?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You only want an H932 if you are a U.S. T-mobile customer. It's carrier locked to T-mobile and is difficult to unlock and even when successfully carrier unlocked will sometimes lock back and even T-mobile can't unlock it.
It's also more difficult to root than the other North American variants.
You can't run any ROMs on it unless it specifically says it's for the H932.
Whereas "H930" ROMs are compatible with all other V30 variants. See more explanation below.
trouble. said:
H930 is the best for roms and rooting. And v30+ is better than op5t bcz u get secondary camera as a wide angle camera.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Agreed V30+ is better, but he doesn't want H930/H930DS/H930G if he lives in North America. And H930 isn't "best" for ROMs and rooting. I wrote the root instructions. Native US998 is as easy to root and is fully compatible with all custom ROMs.
The only reason "H930" is listed for all ROMs is because the first dev listed that way for first custom ROMs. H930 became the "generic" dev name for all V30 (except H932). (Simplistic explanation but true enough for this question.) All the stock KDZs for various models I upload get categorized as "H930" even though they are not. For custom ROMs, "H930" simply means it's for all V30 except H932, which is incompatible with all "H930" ROMs. H932 was rooted last from all the other V30/V30+/V30S and ROMs for it are not compatible with all other V30.
All "H930" ROMs are compatible with native US998/former LS996.
However, former H931/H933 do have tedious extra steps to get AOSP ROMs to boot.
And former VS996 have a problem where they have to make a phone call (like to voicemail) to get data working.
But there as H931/H933/VS996 all on "H930" custom ROMs.
Still the "easiest" of the North America variants for ROMs is native US998 and former LS998 (which you have to convert to US998 temporarily to root).
H932 is the stand alone island of the V30. ROM devs have to make specific version for U.S. T-mobile H932. Unless a ROM says it's for H932 do NOT flash it on H932.
---------- Post added at 07:31 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:22 AM ----------
KukkiGolo said:
Are you sure the US998 is good for roms? Almost every ROM here is for the H930 or H932.
Also, if I plan to keep the phone for 4 years do you think I should get the V30+ or OnePlus 5T?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, we're sure. Where do you live? If you live outside of North America, then look the H930/H930DS/H930G. If you live in North America, look at the US998 V30+ or LS998 V30+. Most US998 V30+ you buy now online are actually LS998 V30+ which have been already converted.
You only want a OnePlus if you don't want a premium phone. No QHD 1440p resolution (only 1080p) , no Quad DAC, no IP68 dust/water resistance (no IP rating whatsoever), no Qi wireless charging.
LG V30/V30+
* 1440P OLED (537 ppi)
* Qi wireless charging
* 3.5mm headset jack
* Quad DAC
* DTS 3D stereo
* IP68 dust/water resistance
* rear camera OIS on normal lens - plus 120 degree wide angle lens
* superfast fingerprint sensor
* 64GB (V30) or 128GB (V30+) internal storage
* microSD port for additional storage
* bootloader unlock and root
* no notch
* fantastic battery
ChazzMatt said:
You only want an H932 if you are a U.S. T-mobile customer. It's carrier locked to T-mobile and is difficult to unlock and even when successfully carrier unlocked will sometimes lock back and even T-mobile can't unlock it.
It's also more difficult to root than the other North American variants.
You can't run any ROMs on it unless it specifically says it's for the H932.
Whereas "H930" ROMs are compatible with all other V30 variants. See more explanation below.
Agreed V30+ is better, but he doesn't want H930/H930DS/H930G if he lives in North America. And H930 isn't "best" for ROMs and rooting. I wrote the root instructions. Native US998 is as easy to root and is fully compatible with all custom ROMs.
The only reason "H930" is listed for all ROMs is because the first dev listed that way for first custom ROMs. H930 became the "generic" dev name for all V30 (except H932). (Simplistic explanation but true enough for this question.) All the stock KDZs for various models I upload get categorized as "H930" even though they are not. For custom ROMs, "H930" simply means it's for all V30 except H932, which is incompatible with all "H930" ROMs. H932 was rooted last from all the other V30/V30+/V30S and ROMs for it are not compatible with all other V30.
All "H930" ROMs are compatible with native US998/former LS996.
However, former H931/H933 do have tedious extra steps to get AOSP ROMs to boot.
And former VS996 have a problem where they have to make a phone call (like to voicemail) to get data working.
But there as H931/H933/VS996 all on "H930" custom ROMs.
Still the "easiest" of the North America variants for ROMs is native US998 and former LS998 (which you have to convert to US998 temporarily to root).
H932 is the stand alone island of the V30. ROM devs have to make specific version for U.S. T-mobile H932. Unless a ROM says it's for H932 do NOT flash it on H932.
---------- Post added at 07:31 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:22 AM ----------
Yes, we're sure. Where do you live? If you live outside of North America, then look the H930/H930DS/H930G. If you live in North America, look at the US998 V30+ or LS998 V30+. Most US998 V30+ you buy now online are actually LS998 V30+ which have been already converted.
You only want a OnePlus if you don't want a premium phone. No QHD 1440p resolution (only 1080p) , no Quad DAC, no IP68 dust/water resistance (no IP rating whatsoever), no Qi wireless charging.
LG V30/V30+
* 1440P OLED (537 ppi)
* Qi wireless charging
* 3.5mm headset jack
* Quad DAC
* DTS 3D stereo
* IP68 dust/water resistance
* rear camera OIS on normal lens - plus 120 degree wide angle lens
* superfast fingerprint sensor
* 64GB (V30) or 128GB (V30+) internal storage
* microSD port for additional storage
* bootloader unlock and root
* no notch
* fantastic battery
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks a lot for the detailed answer, so basically I can install anything for the H930 on a US998U device, like AOSP roms, kernels and all that stuff without any problems right?
The LG V30 is definitely better than the OP 5T and also cheaper but the thing that keeps me from buying it is the RAM, since I plan to keep the phone for 4 years I am not sure yet if 4GB is going to be enough for the upcoming years or if I should go with the 8GB on the 5T. Could you give me your opinion on this? I know there's also the V30S with 6gb but I can't find it anywhere used.
Related
Looking at a V30. I've read through a bunch of threads, just want to make sure there are no "gotchas" or outdated info before I buy.
Looks like I can't buy H931, H933, and H932 if I want to unlock the BL and flash custom ROMs. I saw that I couldn't run AOSP based ROMs on the first 2, and haven't really looked at the ROMs for the V30 yet. Can CM based ROMs be run on all the variants?
It doesn't appear that there's an easy way to SIM/carrier unlock the models. I'm on T-mo right now, so I'd have to buy something already unlocked, right?
No new "fixes" from LG that prevent unlocking; July 2018 looks like I just need to downgrade firmware before unlocking.
nola mike said:
Looking at a V30. I've read through a bunch of threads, just want to make sure there are no "gotchas" or outdated info before I buy.
Looks like I can't buy H931, H933, and H932 if I want to unlock the BL and flash custom ROMs. I saw that I couldn't run AOSP based ROMs on the first 2, and haven't really looked at the ROMs for the V30 yet. Can CM based ROMs be run on all the variants?
It doesn't appear that there's an easy way to SIM/carrier unlock the models. I'm on T-mo right now, so I'd have to buy something already unlocked, right?
No new "fixes" from LG that prevent unlocking; July 2018 looks like I just need to downgrade firmware before unlocking.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
First, let's clarify for this question we're talking only about North America variants. European, Mid-East, Asian variants are not being discussed.
Second, there is an very easy way to carrier unlock/sim card unlock almost any North America variant (except T-Mobile H932) and that is to convert (Frankenstein) to a carrier unlocked model (US998, AS998, H933). This is how the Sprint LS998 were carrier unlocked, even before the WTF bootloader unlock and root exploit was discovered.
However, of those three only the US998 has the necessary fastboot flash commands then for bootloader unlock and TWRP installation. But if you only cared about SIM card unlock, any of those three could be used for Frankenstein.
Also, T-Mobile H932 cannot be converted to US998 due to different RSA encryption than the other North America variants or even European variants.
US998 (which has fastboot flash commands) will run on T-Mobile quite fine. You can convert any North America variant (except T-Mobile H932) to US998 to run on T-mobile.
Third, you are correct that there are issues booting AOSP custom ROMs with H931, H933 converted to US998.
So, if you live in North America, your choices are for bootloader unlock, root, AOSP custom ROMs are:
* US998 V30/V30+,
* LS998 V30/V30+,
* VS996
* AS998
(With the latter three being converted to US998, at least temporarily, for bootloader unlock and root.)
Why would you buy one of the other three INSTEAD of US998 to begin with? Price. Why pay "$500" (or whatever) for something you can get for $315?
Mint LS998 V30+ (128GB) are on eBay for $315. Easily SIM card unlocked, easily converted to US998, easily bootloader unlocked and rooted.
ChazzMatt said:
First, let's clarify for this question we're talking only about North America variants. European, Mid-East, Asian variants are not being discussed.
Second, there is an very easy way to carrier unlock/sim card unlock almost any North America variant (except T-Mobile H932) and that is to convert (Frankenstein) to a carrier unlocked model (US998, AS998, H933). This is how the Sprint LS998 were carrier unlocked, even before the WTF bootloader unlock and root exploit was discovered.
However, of those three only the US998 has the necessary fastboot flash commands then for bootloader unlock and TWRP installation. But if you only cared about SIM card unlock, any of those three could be used for Frankenstein.
Also, T-Mobile H932 cannot be converted to US998 due to different RSA encryption than the other North America variants or even European variants.
US998 (which has fastboot flash commands) will run on T-Mobile quite fine. You can convert any North America variant (except T-Mobile H932) to US998 to run on T-mobile.
Third, you are correct that there are issues booting AOSP custom ROMs with H931, H933 converted to US998.
So, if you live in North America, your choices are for bootloader unlock, root, AOSP custom ROMs are:
* US998 V30/V30+,
* LS998 V30/V30+,
* VS996
* AS998
(With the latter three being converted to US998, at least temporarily, for bootloader unlock and root.)
Why would you buy one of the other three INSTEAD of US998 to begin with? Price. Why pay "$500" (or whatever) for something you can get for $315?
Mint LS998 V30+ (128GB) are on eBay for $315. Easily SIM card unlocked, easily converted to US998, easily bootloader unlocked and rooted.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks. Went ahead and pulled the trigger, though I feel like a G6 for almost half the price would have been fine for me. Anyway, got what was listed as a US998 V30+, carrier unlocked. So I guess that's a sim unlocked LS998. I liked the waterproofing over the G6, but hate the non-replaceable battery. After I ordered, I'm wondering if the waterproofing makes a diy battery replacement impossible. Hopefully I won't have to find out. I'll let you know if I have any troubles rooting and unlocking!
As usual, that was an adventure. The phone was on nougat. Attempted to use LGUp (directly and using uppercut) or LG bridge to flash oreo firmware and unlock the bootloader. Took me hours. I was using linux/virtualbox running windows 10, and had problem after problem. Haven't seen much on this, but for future reference, it appears that this combination doesn't work. I saw something about VB and windows xp, but I couldn't even figure out how to set up a network with that combo, and figured I'd have more driver issues than it was worth, so abandoned it. I remembered that one of my laptops was dual booted with windows 7, and LG up worked no problem. Bootloader unlock was done through adb/fastboot on a linux box without difficulty as well. So far I'm actually rooted running the stock LG firmware, which is pretty good. Still can't figure out if I get as good camera and the quad dac running an LOS ROM, and I'd still LOVE a way to remap my power button, but I'll keep researching. Thanks for the help.
nola mike said:
As usual, that was an adventure. The phone was on nougat. Attempted to use LGUp (directly and using uppercut) or LG bridge to flash oreo firmware and unlock the bootloader. Took me hours. I was using linux/virtualbox running windows 10, and had problem after problem. Haven't seen much on this, but for future reference, it appears that this combination doesn't work. I saw something about VB and windows xp, but I couldn't even figure out how to set up a network with that combo, and figured I'd have more driver issues than it was worth, so abandoned it. I remembered that one of my laptops was dual booted with windows 7, and LG up worked no problem. Bootloader unlock was done through adb/fastboot on a linux box without difficulty as well. So far I'm actually rooted running the stock LG firmware, which is pretty good. Still can't figure out if I get as good camera and the quad dac running an LOS ROM, and I'd still LOVE a way to remap my power button, but I'll keep researching. Thanks for the help.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
there's no quality incursion after unlocking the bootloader (that's a Sony specific DRM thing ?) - you can use GCam under LOS, dot OS, AEX, etc.
as for the quad dac:
Panokiaran said:
You did a good job! I'm happy to have android pie on v30 but does its dac still not work?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=77389334&postcount=15
Onkyo HF Player
USB Audio Player PRO
both are able to utilize the quad dac,
with the 2nd you can even use it with streaming
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=77426758&postcount=5
nola mike said:
I remembered that one of my laptops was dual booted with windows 7, and LG up worked no problem. Bootloader unlock was done through adb/fastboot on a linux box without difficulty as well. So far I'm actually rooted running the stock LG firmware, which is pretty good.
Thanks for the help..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You're welcome! Glad you got all sorted out -- at least the bootloader, TWRP, root part...
nola mike said:
Still can't figure out if I get as good camera and the quad dac running an LOS ROM.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
1) As you know (not an answer to your question, but still stating it), unlocking bootloader and rooting changes nothing about LG V30 stock firmware. I know you specifically mentioned LOS ROMs, but just reiterating that fact for people coming into the thread.
2) As @zacharias.maladroit mentioned there's at least one proven (paid) app that will use the quad DAC with LOS ROMs. He mentions two, but the the 2nd one also uses streaming, so that's probably the one to get.
USB Audio Player PRO
High quality media player supporting USB audio DACs and HiRes audio chips found in the latest phones. Play up to any resolution and sample rate that the DAC supports! All popular and less popular formats are supported, including wav, flac, mp3, m4a and DSD.
This app is a must-have for every audiophile, bypassing all audio limits of Android. Whether you use our custom USB audio driver for USB DACs, our HiRes driver for internal audio chips or the standard Androi driver, this app is one of the highest quality media players around.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
3) Camera... Yes, there is an @Cstark port for GCam for V30 which is very popular.
cstark27 Google Camera mod with Wide Angle Support V3.8 (LG G5,LG G6,LG V20,LG V30)
Pros and Cons to LG Stock camera -- not going to go into them here. That thread discusses them thoroughly, but a GCam port is your best option for LOS ROMs.
Another GCam port alternative, actually suggested by @Cstark himself for those who want normal and wide angle toggling (like stock camera):
(#2 in that post below)
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=76878015&postcount=505
I currently have a S5, SM-G900V that was a pain in the ass to get it "rooted." Unfortunately, it has a lot of compatibility and phone issues: keyboard frequently crashes, OS crashes, constantly getting locked out of the SIM card so I can't listen to my voice mail on the phone, randomly lose service, most of my calls are dropped... Essentially, the only good thing so far is battery life, app comparability and texting works.
I currently looking for recommendations for a new phone to purchase in the next few months. It must be easy to root, have decent battery life and I don't want to spend more than 250. The cheaper the better... I was looking at the honor 7x/8x, anyone have experience with those?
SuperUser1010 said:
I currently have a S5, SM-G900V that was a pain in the ass to get it "rooted." Unfortunately, it has a lot of compatibility and phone issues: keyboard frequently crashes, OS crashes, constantly getting locked out of the SIM card so I can't listen to my voice mail on the phone, randomly lose service, most of my calls are dropped... Essentially, the only good thing so far is battery life, app comparability and texting works.
I currently looking for recommendations for a new phone to purchase in the next few months. It must be easy to root, have decent battery life and I don't want to spend more than 250. The cheaper the better... I was looking at the honor 7x/8x, anyone have experience with those?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
All LG V30/V30+/V30S can be bootloader unlocked and rooted. While doing so, you can also convert many to another model. For instance, commonly can buy a Sprint LS998 V30+ (128GB), easily bootloader unlock, install TWRP, root as carrier unlocked open market US998 V30+. This can be used on any carrier.
Or buy US998 V30+ (but it's probably LS998 V30+ already converted)
$250 on eBay for new or "mint" condition.
There's also European/Middle East/Pacific variants if you need slightly different bands. EVERY V30/V30+/V30S can be bootloader unlocked and rooted.
LG V30/V30+
* 1440P OLED (537 ppi)
* Qi wireless charging
* 3.5mm headset jack
* Quad DAC
* DTS 3D stereo
* IP68 dust/water resistance
* rear camera OIS on normal lens - plus 120 degree wide angle lens
* superfast fingerprint sensor
* 64GB (V30) or 128GB (V30+) internal storage
* microSD port for additional storage
* bootloader unlock and root
* no notch
* fantastic battery
http://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-US998-Unlocked-v30
US998
CDMA: 800 MHz CDMA
2G GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G UMTS (HSPA):850/900/1900/2100 MHz
4G LTE Bands: 1/2/3/4/5/7/12(17)/13/20/25/66
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
I'm in complete agreement with ChazzMatt... The root method on this phone is one of the easiest I've ever used.... Plus, with his guide and assistance (along with many others in the V30 community) is unsurpassed IMO =)
Sent from my stock rooted LG-H933 V30
Huawei?
hiitsrudd said:
Huawei?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Gesundheit.
See specs above. See easy root capabilities requirement.
No Huawei or almost any other phone matches all hardware specs/premium features of the LG V30/V30+/V30S. Only Samsung Galaxy flagships do, and then you run into the easy root problem.
ChazzMatt said:
All LG V30/V30+/V30S can be bootloader unlocked and rooted. While doing so, you can also convert many to another model. For instance, commonly can buy a Sprint LS998 V30+ (128GB), easily bootloader unlock, install TWRP, root as carrier unlocked open market US998 V30+. This can be used on any carrier.
Or buy US998 V30+ (but it's probably LS998 V30+ already converted)
$250 on eBay for new or "mint" condition.
There's also European/Middle East/Pacific variants if you need slightly different bands. EVERY V30/V30+/V30S can be bootloader unlocked and rooted.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What is the purpose or benefit of converting to another model? Like, what is the difference between a US998 and LS998? Also, what's your opinion on buying open box/renew/used? What should I be looking for if buying any of those?
SuperUser1010 said:
What is the purpose or benefit of converting to another model? Like, what is the difference between a US998 and LS998? Also, what's your opinion on buying open box/renew/used? What should I be looking for if buying any of those?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
US998 is carrier unlocked. Converting Sprint LS998 to a carrier unlocked variant is the only way to carrier unlock the phone.
Also of the North America V30, only US998 has fastboot flash commands to bootloader unlock, install TWRP and root. So you have to temporarily convert to US998 anyway. After bootloader unlock and root, you can flash TWRP-FLASHABLE zip (ROM) based on STOCK KDZ to convert back to carrier firmware if you wish.
However many still stay on US998 as it's the official carrier unlocked V30 North America firmware.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
ChazzMatt said:
US998 is carrier unlocked. Converting Sprint LS998 to a carrier unlocked variant is the only way to carrier unlock the phone.
Also of the North America V30, only US998 has fastboot flash commands to bootloader unlock, Install TWRP and root. So you have to temporarily convert to US998 anyway. After bootloader unlock and root, you can flash TWRP-FLASHABLE zip (ROM) based on STOCK KDZ to convert back to carrier firmware if you wish.
However many still stay on US998 as it's the official carrier unlocked V30 North America firmware.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So essentially it sounds like find whatever is cheapest except that H932 model. Do you have any experience or knowledge on purchasing second hand? It seems like renewed is the store's version of "certified used." What about renewed vs used/open box?
SuperUser1010 said:
So essentially it sounds like find whatever is cheapest except that H932 model. Do you have any experience or knowledge on purchasing second hand? It seems like renewed is the store's version of "certified used." What about renewed vs used/open box?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Something like this, 9/10 used - practically mint. $185.
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/173665613177
You want V30+ (128GB) if possible.
---
ChazzMatt said:
Something like this, 9/10 used - practically mint. $185.
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/173665613177
You want V30+ (128GB) if possible.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Before I buy the phone. One thing I'm not understanding, the phone works with all carriers, correct? When I had my Galaxy S3, it was on the CDMA (sprint network) and wouldn't work with GSM network carriers. I have a Galaxy S5 now with a sim card, it is supposed to work with GSM carriers but not CDMA. If I wanted this phone to work on CDMA network, do I just not put in a sim card and it should work with sprint network? And if I wanted to go to t-mobile network, I just add a sim card to go to their network? Also, should the phone be coming with an IMEI and a MEID # to confirm it works with each carrier?
SuperUser1010 said:
Before I buy the phone. One thing I'm not understanding, the phone works with all carriers, correct? When I had my Galaxy S3, it was on the CDMA (sprint network) and wouldn't work with GSM network carriers. I have a Galaxy S5 now with a sim card, it is supposed to work with GSM carriers but not CDMA. If I wanted this phone to work on CDMA network, do I just not put in a sim card and it should work with sprint network? And if I wanted to go to t-mobile network, I just add a sim card to go to their network? Also, should the phone be coming with an IMEI and a MEID # to confirm it works with each carrier?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The US998 has all the bands (GSM, CDMA, HSPA, LTE) to work with all North American carriers. It's the official carrier unlocked model for North America.
And what you described SHOULD happen, except Sprint demands you buy their locked down Sprint V30 LS998 to use on Sprint instead of the carrier unlocked US998. Sprint will not authorize any other LG V30 on their network except Sprint-branded LS998.
But others use US998 on T-Mobile, AT&T, Verizon, their MVNOs, Canadian carriers, etc. Blame Sprint.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
Really want a V30 w 6 gb ram US998R. Is this the one to go with? Love this phone and my Note 4 has the notorious bug problem. I need some advice on how to go w V30. Ive spent countless hours researching this phone. A lil bit of an audiophile. Any advice or information I'm missing? Compatibility wise on custom roms. Or if someone just has some where to point me in the3 right place? Thank you XDA peeps!
SuperNova Jedi said:
Really want a V30 w 6 gb ram US998R. Is this the one to go with? Love this phone and my Note 4 has the notorious bug problem. I need some advice on how to go w V30. Ive spent countless hours researching this phone. A lil bit of an audiophile. Any advice or information I'm missing? Compatibility wise on custom roms. Or if someone just has some where to point me in the3 right place? Thank you XDA peeps!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
US998R is simply another US998. A.K.A. "V30S". R just means more RAM. (V30S "US998R" is just US998 V30+ with 6GB RAM.)
As for ROMs, all "H930" AOSP/Lineage custom ROMs are compatible with all V30/30+/V30S variants -- except for T-Mobile H932.
My suggestion is to get the phone, unlock bootloader, install TWRP, then update to latest US998 firmware and install the Anxious V30 Magisk module:
[Magisk Module] AnxiousV30 (v224)
Has audio (dual speaker and HIM) and camera improvements among many other things.
Use that set-up for a few days before jumping into the custom ROMs.
Latest stock rooted firmware has DTS 3D surround sound.
For bootloader unlock, TWRP installation and initial root, you want the WTF INSTRUCTIONS. Read them in a web browser, not an app. Print them out if you can. You will temporarily downgrade to earlier Oreo for the bootloader unlock exploit -- after which you can update to latest firmware via TWRP-flashable zips.
WTF V30/V30+/V30S Bootloader Unlock and Root (MOST VARIANTS)
Who's your carrier?
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
I use Assist Wireless........they use GSM (T-Mobile)
CDMA (Sprint). Great information, thank you so much for the info. Right now I have Resurrection Remix w a transparent substratum. And really like the customization of it. Also I don't like the bloatware and all the google apps. I run a google free ROM. So I see the US 998R is compatible w Sprint ATT T-Mobile and Verizon? This seem like a dream phone if its true. And the suggestion of dual speaker mod w stock does sound appetizing. I prob should take advice of running stock for a min. But first thing I do when I get a phone is root ROM. So any more adivce on these issues. This is what I love about this community. Thank you!
And upon further inspection, they are super hard to find I see
And the H930DS I see has compatibility issue w the radios?
SuperNova Jedi said:
I prob should take advice of running stock for a min. But first thing I do when I get a phone is root ROM. So any more adivce on these issues. This is what I love about this community. Thank you!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
On all my Android devices (phones, tablets) from 2011 until this phone I always ran custom ROMs. I wrote the threads about custom ROMs in other forums.
On this phone I've never yet installed a custom ROM. Just saying...
Of course it's rooted. Of course I have mods.
Just run it a couple of days with the Anxious mod and see what the phone can do. Then use that as a baseline when you jump into the custom ROM world.
---------- Post added at 12:51 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:47 PM ----------
SuperNova Jedi said:
And the H930DS I see has compatibility issue w the radios?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't understand your question. I thought you live in North America and were getting the US998. Why are you asking about the H930DS (either regular 4GB or the 6GB "30S" version) which is not for North America?
Unlike most North American variants, you can't convert H930 variants (H930, H939DS, H939G, H93OD) successfully (radio working) to North America variants.
For North America, the best V30 to get are probably:
* US998 (64GB V30 or better, the 128 GB V30+),
* LS998 (128GB V30+),
" VS996 (only 64GB V30 available).
Although you can and will convert the latter two to US998 in the bootloader unlock procedure, if you use Verizon best to have VS996 or native US998 -- or have an already-activated Verizon SIM card. For Sprint and Sprint MVNOs, you need Sprint-branded LS998 and get it activated BEFORE you do anything else. Sprint will not allow any other V30 variant in their network.
---------- Post added at 12:55 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:51 PM ----------
SuperNova Jedi said:
And upon further inspection, they are super hard to find I see
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You mean the US998R V30S? You can get them but they're still expensive. Only sold for short period of time by B&H Photo. No carriers had them.
Last time I checked, eBay sellers wanted $400 for the US998(R) V30S, whereas mint US998 V30+ or LS998 V30+ is $200 or so. "New" is closer to $300... but may actually be refurbished. Be careful!
This is why the V30+ -- either native US998 or LS998 converted to US998 is the most popular.
---------- Post added at 01:00 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:55 PM ----------
SuperNova Jedi said:
I use Assist Wireless........they use GSM (T-Mobile)
CDMA (Sprint). Great information, thank you so much for the info.
So I see the US998R is compatible w Sprint ATT T-Mobile and Verizon? This seem like a dream phone if its true.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, but Sprint and some Sprint MVNOs will not let you use US998 on Sprint network. They make you use the Sprint branded LS998. While you have to temporarily convert LS998 to US998 to bootloader unlock and Install TWRP, for Sprint customers it's best to activate the LS998 phone first. After bootloader unlock and TWRP, those people can flash back to Sprint firmware via TWRP-flashable zip to get all the Sprint LTE bands back.
Some people buy Sprint LS998 on purpose to use on other carriers because with Frankenstein, you can easily convert them to US998. Once converted, they are carrier unlocked and are completely US998. I've bought several.
I have both native US998 V30 and V30+ from B&H Photo, plus converted US998 V30+ from LS998 V30+.
For Verizon, best to have an already-activated Verizon SIM card unless you buy native VS996. Most Verizon customers have that, so not a problem. Not sure if Verizon will activate a native US998; maybe they will. I know Verizon will NOT activate a converted Sprint LS998 to US998.
AT&T H931 and Canada H933 have problems booting up AOSP/Lineage custom ROMs. A whole lot of additional work is needed to make them work. Best to stay away from those.
Same with T-Mobile H932. Harder to root, not as many custom ROMs. Even the dev who rooted the T-Mobile H932 and is a T-Mobile customer now uses US998...
My Note 4s died so I'm finally moving on to a new device, was going to buy a Pixel XL until someone suggested a V30 instead, so going with that instead. Been on Sprint CDMA forever so finally trying to switch to GSM international.
However I'm not sure which model to get. I use Ting as my carrier, an MVNO of Sprint and Tmo, but I don't think you HAVE to use a Sprint or Tmo phone (currently using a Verizon loaner, works fine).
I read on a rooting thread that the H932 (Tmo) is more difficult to root because the encryption is different. The only other model I'm seeing is the H931 (AT&T), however it says Unlocked instead of AT&T in the listing.
I'd like the phone to be able to work in the US as well as internationally. Does the H931 work internationally or only in the US? Is the H931 fine to get or is one of the others a better choice?
For US customers the best LG V30 is arguably the US998 - it was and might still be sold by US Cellular, not sure on that - because it covers all 4 major carriers in terms of the radios and LTE bands and it's factory unlocked from the gitgo. The only band that's not covered is LTE Band 71 which is T-Mobile and only available in the H932 model specifically.
You can get other models, like the H931 (AT&T), the LS998 (the Sprint model), etc, and convert them to function as the US998 but why bother doing a conversion when you can just buy the damned US998 directly and not have to bother with such things.
There's the US998 V30 (64GB internal storage) and the V30+ (128GB storage), if you can find a V30+ for a decent price I'd highly recommend that model over the traditional V30 because of the increased storage.
Now, as for using the US998 outside the US, I can't speak for that kind of usage directly, but you can look at the radio band support and figure it out yourself based on the hardware specs (select Specs, scroll down to the Connectivity section):
https://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-US998-Silver-lg-v30
br0adband said:
For US customers the best LG V30 is arguably the US998 - it was and might still be sold by US Cellular, not sure on that - because it covers all 4 major carriers in terms of the radios and LTE bands and it's factory unlocked from the gitgo. The only band that's not covered is LTE Band 71 which is T-Mobile and only available in the H932 model specifically.
You can get other models, like the H931 (AT&T), the LS998 (the Sprint model), etc, and convert them to function as the US998 but why bother doing a conversion when you can just buy the damned US998 directly and not have to bother with such things.
There's the US998 V30 (64GB internal storage) and the V30+ (128GB storage), if you can find a V30+ for a decent price I'd highly recommend that model over the traditional V30 because of the increased storage.
Now, as for using the US998 outside the US, I can't speak for that kind of usage directly, but you can look at the radio band support and figure it out yourself based on the hardware specs (select Specs, scroll down to the Connectivity section):
https://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-US998-Silver-lg-v30
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Awesome thanks for the insight. What all is involved in the conversion process? Just curious
mon0theist said:
Awesome thanks for the insight. What all is involved in the conversion process? Just curious
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Using Dev Patched LGUP to flash USS98 Nougat, doing a Master Reset, then flashing US998 Oreo (or Pie when it comes for US998).
There's a Frankenstein thread with more complete Instructions, like how to install LGUP -- but that's the gist.
---------- Post added at 04:48 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:43 PM ----------
br0adband said:
For US customers the best LG V30 is arguably the US998 - it was and might still be sold by US Cellular, not sure on that - because it covers all 4 major carriers in terms of the radios and LTE bands and it's factory unlocked from the gitgo. The only band that's not covered is LTE Band 71 which is T-Mobile and only available in the H932 model specifically.
You can get other models, like the H931 (AT&T), the LS998 (the Sprint model), etc, and convert them to function as the US998 but why bother doing a conversion when you can just buy the damned US998 directly and not have to bother with such things.
There's the US998 V30 (64GB internal storage) and the V30+ (128GB storage), if you can find a V30+ for a decent price I'd highly recommend that model over the traditional V30 because of the increased storage.
Now, as for using the US998 outside the US, I can't speak for that kind of usage directly, but you can look at the radio band support and figure it out yourself based on the hardware specs (select Specs, scroll down to the Connectivity section):
https://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-US998-Silver-lg-v30
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Your email is very good except for one thing...
While USS98 was sold by U.S. Cellular, the US998 is also the official Open Market (carrier unlocked) North America V30 sold by B&H Photo, Amazon, Best Buy.
The only reason U.S. Cellular sold it is because LG wouldn't make them a separate variant. They are too small a carrier.
So, please stop mentioning U.S. Cellular. It confuses people, as dedicated U.S. Cellular phones are normally LOCKED to U.S. Cellular.
U.S. Cellular coincidentally sold the US998. How's that? Much better. But better yet, just leave them out of the discussion, since it then requires explaining all the above.
ChazzMatt said:
Using Dev Patched LGUP to flash USS98 Nougat, doing a Master Reset, then flashing US998 Oreo (or Pie when it comes for US998).
There's a Frankenstein thread with more complete Instructions, like how to install LGUP -- but that's the gist.
---------- Post added at 04:48 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:43 PM ----------
Your email is very good except for one thing...
While USS98 was sold by U.S. Cellular, the US998 is also the official Open Market (carrier unlocked) North America V30 sold by B&H Photo, Amazon, Best Buy.
The only reason U.S. Cellular sold it is because LG wouldn't make them a separate variant. They are too small a carrier.
So, please stop mentioning U.S. Cellular. It confuses people, as dedicated U.S. Cellular phones are normally LOCKED to U.S. Cellular.
U.S. Cellular coincidentally sold the US998. How's that? Much better. But better yet, just leave them out of the discussion, since it then requires explaining all the above.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Good to know, thanks! Which variant would you recommend? I'd like the phone to work both in the US and internationally, let's say India for example. My carrier in the US is Ting, which uses Sprint's and Tmo's network, which might possibly require me to buy the Tmo variant according to this reddit thread, but I'd rather take my chances with the US998 variant if it means more likelihood for international compatibility.
EDIT: Also there's no Android P stock ROM for the US998? Could I still flash LineageOS 16 on Oreo firmware?
mon0theist said:
Good to know, thanks! Which variant would you recommend? I'd like the phone to work both in the US and internationally, let's say India for example. My carrier in the US is Ting, which uses Sprint's and Tmo's network, which might possibly require me to buy the Tmo variant according to this reddit thread, but I'd rather take my chances with the US998 variant if it means more likelihood for international compatibility.
EDIT: Also there's no Android P stock ROM for the US998? Could I still flash LineageOS 16 on Oreo firmware?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There will be Pie for all variants. Last week EU H930 Pie was officially released. The rest are coming.
Here's the bands you'll get with carrier unlocked US998.
ChazzMatt said:
There will be Pie for all variants. Last week EU H930 Pie was officially released. The rest are coming.
Here's the bands you'll get with carrier unlocked US998.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Awesome thanks
I found this thread for rooting the H932, but it requires the bootloader having already been unlocked. Is there a method to unlock the bootloader that is specific to the H932, or is it the same as all the other variants?
mon0theist said:
Awesome thanks
I found this thread for rooting the H932, but it requires the bootloader having already been unlocked. Is there a method to unlock the bootloader that is specific to the H932, or is it the same as all the other variants?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Umm, I wouldn't get the T-Mobile H932 unless you're a T-Mobile customer. It's much harder to root than the other variants.
Yes, you have to follow the instructions in that thread to install TWRP and root the T-Mobile H932.
WTF INSTRUCTIONS are for all the other variants.
See this Root Sticky thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/root-v30-t3927154
Read post #1.
ChazzMatt said:
Umm, I wouldn't get the T-Mobile H932 unless you're a T-Mobile customer. It's much harder to root than the other variants.
Yes, you have to follow the instructions in that thread to install TWRP and root the T-Mobile H932.
WTF INSTRUCTIONS are for all the other variants.
See this Root Sticky thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/root-v30-t3927154
Read post #1.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ting is an MVNO of Tmobile and they advised me that getting something without the Band 12 VoLTE support could result in issues with calls/texts not going through. Other than that I would probably go for the US998 version. Or maybe I should just get the US998 and hope for the best idk.
mon0theist said:
Ting is an MVNO of Tmobile and they advised me that getting something without the Band 12 VoLTE support could result in issues with calls/texts not going through. Other than that I would probably go for the US998 version. Or maybe I should just get the US998 and hope for the best idk.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
US998 has T-Mobile Band 12 VoLTE support and has T-Mobile WiFi calling.
It's just LTE Band 71 you won't have.
ChazzMatt said:
US998 has T-Mobile Band 12 VoLTE support and has T-Mobile WiFi calling.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Oh really? Well in that case US998 it is
Hello everyone
I came from the far lands of the LG V20 (ATT variant), such a journey to root and customize for sure
And now I'm planning to move forward for an upgrade. It's brother, the LG V30
Can you nice people point me to the direction where any recommendations of what variant is great for rooting and custom roms?
Pretty much any variant is fine, except H932 (TMobile) due to a different encryption method there. Consult the WTF thread for info on how to root/rom. ChazzMatt is our resident expert, so I'm sure he will chime in.
EDIT: One thing I will warn you is that you may want to start with a phone that normally runs on your carrier (or US998 which works on all, for the most part). The reason is that this gives you a way to get back to the seller if something doesn't work. For example, I bought two H931 (ATT) phones and converted them to VS996 for use on Verizon, but one ended up having problems with on VZ towers (the other phone worked perfectly fine). It took some doing, but I got the seller to take it back... but it could have cost me otherwise...
schwinn8 said:
Pretty much any variant is fine, except H932 (TMobile) due to a different encryption method there. Consult the WTF thread for info on how to root/rom. ChazzMatt is our resident expert, so I'm sure he will chime in.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I agree stay away of h932 you can root it but using a way much more complicated and long than the other variants
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/help/v30-variant-to-buy-t4035231
Read post #1. Take away the advice that applies to you...
______
From even another thread:
REPOSTING THIS REPLY HERE AS IT'S RELEVANT FOR THIS THREAD TOO.
I am replacing my old slow buggy galaxy s5 by a used LG V30. Which variant is most supported by community (custom roms) and officially (LG stock roms):
vs996 vs us998 vs v300 ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What bands do you need? What carrier do you use? That's a more important criteria. For instance H930DS doesn't have important LTE bands needed for North America and vice versa.
All North American variants -- EXCEPT T-mobile H932 -- can be converted to any other variant (firmware, bands, everything). So, if you buy Sprint LS998 V30+ you can convert it to US998 V30+. For bootloader unlock and root, you need fastboot flash commands, therefore models like the LS998 or VS996 have to be (at least temporarily) converted to US998 for the bootloader unlock and TWRP stage. But after that, Verizon users can go back to VS996 firmware via TWRP-flashable zips. Same with LS998, if you are a Sprint customer. But many people (non-Sprint customers) convert to US998 firmware and stay there -- as it's the official carrier unlocked model and has the least bloatware. People often buy the Sprint LS998 V30+ then convert to US998 V30+, as sometimes it's less expensive than US998 V30+ (many of which on eBay are actually former LS998 V30+, already converted by dealers).
If you need East European languages, then you should get the EU H930 V30 or maybe European H930G (V30+).
While all variants are supported, what NOT to get to save time and trouble?
* The Korean variants (i.e. 300) are a step harder to root -- so if you don't NEED Korean variant then don't get that.
* Likewise with T-Mobile H932. The root method is quite different from the others. If you're not actually a T-Mobile customer, no need to go through that.
* AT&T H931 and Canada H933 take much more prep work to run Lineage-based ROMs. Both have to be temporarily converted to US998 anyway for bootloader unlock, but then there's much more tedious steps to boot Lineage ROMs. If you intend to run Lineage base custom ROMs, then don't buy one of those.
________
I run rooted stock firmware myself on US998 V30+ (I've had native US998 and also converted LS998 to US998) -- with most recent LG firmware via TWRP-flashable zips. I use Magisk mods like to give more features and tweaks.
________
Go for the US998 V30+, 128GB if you can. Here in the U.S. you can get mint V30+ for $120.
LG V30 US998- 128GB - Titan Black (Factory Unlocked) Smartphone 9/10
https://www.ebay.com/itm/LG-V30-US998-128GB-Titan-Black-Unlocked-Smartphone-9-10/183795406681
https://www.ebay.com/itm/LG-V30-US9...Factory-Unlocked-Smartphone-9-10/173665613177
Both same seller which I have used several times. Don't know why the slight difference in price for same phone, same condition. Your choice.
Be sure to get a good case like this:
Spigen® LG V30 [Rugged Armor] Shockproof Case Slim TPU Cover
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Spigen-LG-V30-Rugged-Armor-Shockproof-Case-Slim-TPU-Cover/253142676754
These phones are like slippery fish with glass backs.
That case is actually slim but very good.
___
LG V30/V30+
* 1440P OLED (537 ppi)
* Qi wireless charging
* 3.5mm headset jack
* Quad DAC
* DTS 3D stereo (with root to enable LG libs)
* FM Radio
* IP68 dust/water resistance
* rear camera OIS on normal lens - plus 120 degree wide angle lens
* superfast fingerprint sensor
* 64GB (V30) or 128GB (V30+) internal storage
* microSD port for additional storage
* bootloader unlock and root (all variants)
* no notch
US998
CDMA: 800 MHz CDMA
2G GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G UMTS (HSPA):850/900/1900/2100 MHz
4G LTE Bands: 1/2/3/4/5/7/12(17)/13/20/25/66
Just posted another answer above.
Thank you for the replies kind sirs, surely this is useful information for my upgrade choice for the V30 cuz I don't want the same mistake to happen like on my V20