Need a definitive way to backup EVERYTHING from Pocophone to PC! - Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers

Hey there,
Recently got myself a Pocophone really really cheap and I am loving it.
Only problem is, I need a way to backup everything (Call Logs, SMS, System, Apps etc) to my PC just in case the phone dies one day and I can't do anything about it.
Much like Huawei HiSuite - which I used on my Mate 9 before going to the Pocophone.
I read the Xiaomi's own PC Suite doesn't even work anymore, which is a bit sad.
And MiCloud only does a few things and only for a Xiaomi device.
I'm thinking some sort of Universal software that is trusted that I can use to just back everything up once in a while and if I get, say an Oppo or Samsung down the track, I can restore the backup to it and be done with it.
The only OTHER solution that I have is to use Mi Mover to transfer call logs etc to one of my older Samsung phones (S7 for example) and leave it at that.
EDIT: Nope that only works for OLD PHONE to Xiaomi :\
EDIT: Doing Smart Switch from Pocophone to S7 works. So I'll have to do that to keep my messages, call logs etc and manually back up videos and pictures to my PC which should be fine.
Bit of a pain but, it's got to be done
HOWEVER If you guys have any other suggestions, let me know!
Thanks so much!

You can backup in TWRP and then move it to a PC.

NicolasLukas said:
You can backup in TWRP and then move it to a PC.
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TWRP doesn't backup internal storage ie. files, photos, videos etc.
And restoring a TWRP backup from one phone to another is dangerous at the least.

Migrate may be able to help you for sure, but you'll have to do it manually every time you wish to backup.
You can select which apps you want to backup, call logs, sms, media, etc.

Sadly there isn't a tool/app for Xiaomi!

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Back-up to PC

Hey everyone
My friend has a gsII and was asking me how to back it up to his pc because he migt be changing phones. Not sure if he is sticking with android or not, but wants to back it all up. If he leaves android, he will probably just want all of his contacts, music, etc... In the past i have used tibu, but that was for switch roms and saving apps and stuff. I have never backed up on my pc so wasnt sure what to tell him. What is the best way for him to back-up to his PC?
Thanks for all the help!
Tell him to buy MyBackupPro or FileExpert. These will both let one back up all apps.
For contacts and pics, there's Kies or Kies Air (they come from Samsung but work suprisingly well)
Good luck!
Heuser1 said:
Hey everyone
My friend has a gsII and was asking me how to back it up to his pc because he migt be changing phones. Not sure if he is sticking with android or not, but wants to back it all up. If he leaves android, he will probably just want all of his contacts, music, etc... In the past i have used tibu, but that was for switch roms and saving apps and stuff. I have never backed up on my pc so wasnt sure what to tell him. What is the best way for him to back-up to his PC?
Thanks for all the help!
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google contacts and calendar are already backed up to his gmail account.
Everything else he'll need to do himself, such as pictures, videos, and content. He can use, as the previous poster said, MyBackupPro which is great I got it now on sale and have it back up a lot of stuff at night to their servers. It's great .
connect the phone in USB mode...copy the folders like DCIM, music or what ever folders u want...
for messages, use smsbackuprestore app ffrom the market....
for applications backup use appbackuprestore app from market...
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[Q] Full Phone Backup and Restore

Hi Guys,
The iphone had itunes where whenever you update to a new IOS, it will restore everything with a simple click (contacts, sms, apps, settings, everything etc). From what I have read, Titanium backup seems to do this however, it requires root access. As well, I've tried to use the PC Companion backup/restore function, while it claims that it backed up my text messages, when I tried to restore, all it did was restore my pictures, it seems to restore nothing else. Therefore, my question is, is there a program available that will do a FULL backup/restore without the need for root access?
bill1clinton said:
Hi Guys,
The iphone had itunes where whenever you update to a new IOS, it will restore everything with a simple click (contacts, sms, apps, settings, everything etc). From what I have read, Titanium backup seems to do this however, it requires root access. As well, I've tried to use the PC Companion backup/restore function, while it claims that it backed up my text messages, when I tried to restore, all it did was restore my pictures, it seems to restore nothing else. Therefore, my question is, is there a program available that will do a FULL backup/restore without the need for root access?
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No. You need root and/or unlocked bootloader (for using CWM) to do a full backup.
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Mybackup allows you to back up applications & media and data. To backup images of the ROM you'll need xRecovery and thats not possible in your case as the guy above me mentioned clearly.
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bill1clinton said:
Hi Guys,
The iphone had itunes where whenever you update to a new IOS, it will restore everything with a simple click (contacts, sms, apps, settings, everything etc). From what I have read, Titanium backup seems to do this however, it requires root access. As well, I've tried to use the PC Companion backup/restore function, while it claims that it backed up my text messages, when I tried to restore, all it did was restore my pictures, it seems to restore nothing else. Therefore, my question is, is there a program available that will do a FULL backup/restore without the need for root access?
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A simple answer is NO. You need root access to backup application data.
When I saw the Backup & Restore option under PC Companion, like you I also wa delighted and tested it for disappointment.
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Sikiduck said:
Mybackup allows you to back up applications & media and data. To backup images of the ROM you'll need xRecovery and thats not possible in your case as the guy above me mentioned clearly.
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I don't need to backup the ROM. I only want things such as contacts, sms, settings, apps backed up.
I do apologizes if I sound like I'm being an Apple fanboy. However, as restrictive and annoying itunes was, it certainly did an excellent job in getting you up and running very quickly and easily.
bill1clinton said:
I don't need to backup the ROM. I only want things such as contacts, sms, settings, apps backed up.
I do apologizes if I sound like I'm being an Apple fanboy. However, as restrictive and annoying itunes was, it certainly did an excellent job in getting you up and running very quickly and easily.
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Agreed on your point with iTunes, but the concept of Google is to keep as much as possible off to the cloud.
There are plenty of apps out there on the Play store.
I use SMS Backup & Restore to backup SMS. It does a pretty good job and it can be scheduled as well if you like.
Contacts can be sync to Google and again, you can export the contacts to SD Card if you prefer that way.
The applications and their data (if allowed by the developer), settings are also can be backed up to the Google servers if you enable the option Settings --> Privacy --> Back up my data. I tested this and majority of the apps don't support it, yet. I guess app developers will support in the future.
LiveSquare said:
Agreed on your point with iTunes, but the concept of Google is to keep as much as possible off to the cloud.
There are plenty of apps out there on the Play store.
I use SMS Backup & Restore to backup SMS. It does a pretty good job and it can be scheduled as well if you like.
Contacts can be sync to Google and again, you can export the contacts to SD Card if you prefer that way.
The applications and their data (if allowed by the developer), settings are also can be backed up to the Google servers if you enable the option Settings --> Privacy --> Back up my data. I tested this and majority of the apps don't support it, yet. I guess app developers will support in the future.
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Thanks for the helpful advice. I certainly do appreciate it. If I may though, Android being that much more customizable then iOS, I find it rather strange that there is no program that serves the same purpose as iTunes. I love how much I can customize my experience with Android, however, it certainly presents quite a significant annoyance when there is a need to re-do all your customization just because you updated to a new firmware. Once again, not trying to troll, just puzzled.
bill1clinton said:
Thanks for the helpful advice. I certainly do appreciate it. If I may though, Android being that much more customizable then iOS, I find it rather strange that there is no program that serves the same purpose as iTunes. I love how much I can customize my experience with Android, however, it certainly presents quite a significant annoyance when there is a need to re-do all your customization just because you updated to a new firmware. Once again, not trying to troll, just puzzled.
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Oh, definitely not trolling - it really is annoying. Especially when there's an option in Android to "back up all my settings and application data to the cloud" but it does not back up all savegames, nor SMS, etc etc. Much like you, I kinda expected a bit more here.
This is probably why SE put in it's own backup/restore service.
bill1clinton said:
Thanks for the helpful advice. I certainly do appreciate it. If I may though, Android being that much more customizable then iOS, I find it rather strange that there is no program that serves the same purpose as iTunes. I love how much I can customize my experience with Android, however, it certainly presents quite a significant annoyance when there is a need to re-do all your customization just because you updated to a new firmware. Once again, not trying to troll, just puzzled.
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Rashkae said:
Oh, definitely not trolling - it really is annoying. Especially when there's an option in Android to "back up all my settings and application data to the cloud" but it does not back up all savegames, nor SMS, etc etc. Much like you, I kinda expected a bit more here.
This is probably why SE put in it's own backup/restore service.
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From the day I bought my first Android phone (X10), I've been puzzling and searching for this very answer and the same software an option like you mentioned. But until today, I haven't found one.
But I'm pretty sure that Google will surely hear this and will implement a new one or improve the existing one. Until those days come....
I came across a guide on how to back up everything on the galaxy nexus.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1420351
I don't have a galaxy nexus & I haven't tried it myself.
I found freeware software that lets you backup apps (and you don't need to download the additional data when you restore them), texts and contacts, which worked pretty fast and didn't crash or hang like PC Companion tends to do.
It's called Wondershare MobileGO.
http://www.wondershare.com/android-manager/
May not be completely what you had in mind as it doesn't backup settings and such, but at least you don't need root and it backs up quite a lot of useful stuff.
Snmjm said:
I came across a guide on how to back up everything on the galaxy nexus.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1420351
I don't have a galaxy nexus & I haven't tried it myself.
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I guess it only works in ICS. Tried it on XS and get an error "adb: cannot open file ./backup.ab" (of course, I tried the solution provided in the thread, but didn't work).

fk, I just spent past 5 hours to restore backup to S5

pardon me, but i'm pissed. I started fiddling with this thing yesterday with no luck now i've just spent the past 5 hours with this crap...i upgraded from the s3 and have no fkn idea why they've made some features so fkn difficult....excuse my language.
here's my problem, before changing phones i used mybackup to backup sms, mms, call logs, contacts and apps. Well after searching i see the reware directory needs to be put in the legacy/emulated folder....i did that but mybackup still can't see it. No problem, i'll do everything with good old Kies...but i can't find kies on the S5, market or samsung store. i've tried every fkn thing...i plugged in my old phone and downloaded easy back up and some other crap that's for rooted phones only. i can't find the easybackup directory. i downloaded some wifi transfer apps and the free ones have transfer limits...
can someone please help me before i throw this fkn phone and break it? thanks and btw my s5 and s3 aren't rooted.
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pardon me, but i'm pissed. I started fiddling with this thing yesterday with no luck now i've just spent the past 5 hours with this crap...i upgraded from the s3 and have no fkn idea why they've made some features so fkn difficult....excuse my language.
here's my problem, before changing phones i used mybackup to backup sms, mms, call logs, contacts and apps. Well after searching i see the reware directory needs to be put in the legacy/emulated folder....i did that but mybackup still can't see it. No problem, i'll do everything with good old Kies...but i can't find kies on the S5, market or samsung store. i've tried every fkn thing...i plugged in my old phone and downloaded easy back up and some other crap that's for rooted phones only. i can't find the easybackup directory. i downloaded some wifi transfer apps and the free ones have transfer limits...
can someone please help me before i throw this fkn phone and break it? thanks and btw my s5 and s3 aren't rooted.
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First a question: Are you afraid of rooting/tripping knox?
Answers: 1) Root will help with this. Get titanium backup PRO, but it requires root. I have been using it for I don't know how long.
2) Root will help with this. The S3 can be rooted and then returned to stock for your backing up needs. Once you root the S5 for your restoring needs, knox flag will trip and stay with you.
3) Calm down! Read the above answers again and think about it. He He good luck
I use My Backup Pro and if I'm not mistaken only the pro version will restore from one phone to a different phone. I'd also suggest using the cloud option. I backed up my S4 and restored to my S5 in minutes using the cloud and did not attempt it on a memory chip. It's also possible that KitKat security changes might make reading the data from the chip a problem. I am also not rooted yet.
Strychtnine said:
I use My Backup Pro and if I'm not mistaken only the pro version will restore from one phone to a different phone. I'd also suggest using the cloud option. I backed up my S4 and restored to my S5 in minutes using the cloud and did not attempt it on a memory chip. It's also possible that KitKat security changes might make reading the data from the chip a problem. I am also not rooted yet.
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Good idea to try the cloud, I never tried that.
KitKat only messed up the WRITE to SD card permissions, there's an app that restores it though on the play store. READING from the SD card to restore your backups and other things is not a problem even without the fix.
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Super Backup from the play store is great for backing up and restoring all your messages, contacts, and call log. It saves them as tiny XML files, and even gives you the option to e-mail it to yourself. Then you can restore it just as easily in the app on the new phone. You can browse for the file, so you don't have to worry about where it's saved. Just e-mail it to your gmail and download it right back on the new phone.
I used this method for myself (I have the stupid AT&T variant that is going back soon, no root, no hope, no nothing) and friends and family with no root.
As for the apps, I just let Play Store reinstall it it whether it's after a full wipe and install of a ROM or moving to a new phone.. But if you have certain apps that can't be obtained from Play Store, and since you obviously don't have Titanium Backup having no root, Super Backup can also backup the apps, then browse to the backup folder for the APK files it saves and move it over manually. Use a file explorer to open the apk and install.
tenxo said:
First a question: Are you afraid of rooting/tripping knox?
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thanks for the advice, but i'm not rooting right now. this is my 7th Android phone, i rooted the first 5, but i didn't root the s3 and have no plans of rooting this unless there's some incredible features that i really desire. i use to root back in the day to get the features that now come stock. Most of the things i dreamed of having on my phone now come stock, so i now don't see much need to root. Besides i have nightmares about the last 2 devices i rooted....gps no longer worked, phones started rebooting by themselves more often (every android i had did that but after rooting it seemed to happen more often)....i got tired of doing camera fixes, gps fixes, bluetooth not working.......i don't know, maybe the game has changed in 2014 and roms are more stable. I was deep into that starting with my g1, then my Nexus (the very first Nexus, i paid like $500 for it). I respect the developers and those who root their devices, i just don't see much personal need for it with these megaphones on the market in 2014.
What would rooting my S5 this early give me? Its currently fast enough, smooth, i love the camera, everything works like a charm(gps, bluetooth, etc...), my battery is CURRENTLY lasting all day with heavy use (i'm no fool, i know that wont last forever, especially coming from the another samsung phone). With all the widgets and things i have, i don't have a desire to root, maybe months from now, i'll get bored with the phone and see some good features....but rooting now.....you care to share your favorite features that a rooted S5 is currently bringing?
thx
tenxo said:
Good idea to try the cloud, I never tried that.
KitKat only messed up the WRITE to SD card permissions, there's an app that restores it though on the play store. READING from the SD card to restore your backups and other things is not a problem even without the fix.
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do you know the name of the app that restores it? also, Strychtnine, i have mybackuppro, but saved the backup to sdcard...i no longer have another phone so i can't backup mybackuppro online. i used easy backup and saved to google drive, thankfully I was able to restore my sms, mms and call logs....unfortunately many of my contacts didnt restore, i never had that issue with mybackup, its always been my preferred and most trusted backup app dating back to the G1.
A couple other questions while I have a few of you in this thread.
Where is Kies? is it no longer available....i used it heavily with the S3, i don't see it on the s5, playstore, or samsung store. Is there another free app that will allow me to view files on my computer and make changes like Kies? Wifi Transfer is cool but it has a very small transfer limit (i think it was like 10mb or something). I'm not into Google Drive, i use it for hosting music but its a pain to me....first 100mb takes around an hr to upload, then i have to download it on my phone, which takes another few minutes. I honestly prefer the good ole days of plugging the usb to the computer and boom! By the way, has that feature returned with the s5? i plugged usb to computer but it says can't find software. I searched online for s5 drivers and can't find a thing. Any suggestions? i took several pics that i want to send to computer, i don't feel like using google drive, with gmail, i'd have to attach all the files then download them.....i wish i could just connect phone to computer (usb or wireless) and copy/paste files. thanks
A8000 said:
What would rooting my S5 this early give me? you care to share your favorite features that a rooted S5 is currently bringing?
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I feel what your saying about the past devices and the problems that Custom Roms can create. Root however is different. I use root to run apps that require root i.e., Titanium backup, Greenify, GSAM battery, etc...
Kitkat 4.4.2 and probably Android going forward is some what weird if you think about it. It brought great features like being able to turn off apps (bloat) that you don't use in manage apps, and allows moving apps to the sd card...But on the same note they crippled the SD card write permissions for what reason? Oxymoron? So again here you need root to be able to edit the permissions file or use that SDfix https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nextapp.sdfix from the playstore. Note the first thing In the description is ROOT REQUIRED.
I also like Xposed and modules which allows me to customize certain things without needing a custom rom. Note that Xposed is causing some people problems with lag, S health, and Private mode not working.
I have two S5's both with root. On one S health works but Private mode doesn't. NO noticed lag.
The other one however, has extreme lag and freezing, and both S health and Private modes broken don't know why the difference. I don't use S health nor Private mode so no problem there but the lag was terrible so had to uninstall Xposed on the second one. Root alone doesn't break anything.
A8000 said:
do you know the name of the app that restores it?
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nextapp.sdfix
A8000 said:
Where is Kies? is it no longer available....i used it heavily with the S3, i don't see it on the s5, playstore, or samsung store. Is there another free app that will allow me to view files on my computer and make changes like Kies?
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Kies 3 is available I don't see it on the phone which is good it connects right up once you plug up with computer. http://www.samsung.com/sg/support/usefulsoftware/KIES/JSP . Make sure you select the install for the NEWER phones Note 3 and newer I think it says.
A8000 said:
I honestly prefer the good ole days of plugging the usb to the computer and boom! By the way, has that feature returned with the s5? i plugged usb to computer but it says can't find software. I searched online for s5 drivers and can't find a thing. Any suggestions? i took several pics that i want to send to computer, i don't feel like using google drive, with gmail, i'd have to attach all the files then download them.....i wish i could just connect phone to computer (usb or wireless) and copy/paste files. thanks
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I just plugged it in and windows 7 installed the drivers right away...Maybe once you install Kies above it will install the drivers for you... The S5 actually come with USB 3.0. If you have USB 3.0 on your computer the transfer speeds will be insanely faster than previous phones. Why use Kies just use windows explorer for transfers, Kies just becomes a middle man!

Advice on backing up and restoring my Samsung Galaxy S6

Hey everyone!
My Samsung Galaxy S6 is about 6 months old roughly and the battery life has never really been all that great on it anyway, but lately I'm having some much more serious issues with it depleting really quickly, and dropping to 98% as soon as I take it off the charger. Anyway, my query was regarding backing up my phone and the best way to go about it. I came from an iPhone so I've never really had to back up an Android phone before, this is all new to me. I've googled and such but I figured it might be better to ask as I find a lot of the threads about it and posts in general online are quite old and maybe outdated now.
I want to be able to back up app data, contacts, messages, bookmarks (if thats a thing), login data, and so forth. I know photos and any files can be transferred to my macbook so I'm not too worried about that.
I have a Macbook so I'm not sure on what backup/restore programs are available or whether there is anything I can use to transfer files and such.
I don't know whether this will fix my problem but I figure it's well overdue for a restore anyway so who knows, maybe it'll help a little. Otherwise, I have it insured so I can always see about a fix if it's the battery itself that's faulty.
If you are stock without root or mods then Samsung Smart Switch should work. Google also syncs most things like apps and data, contacts, wifi passwords, etc and you can use a multitude of apps to backup call logs and texts. If you are rooted, you can use something like Titanium Backup. Then copy your internal storage to your Mac. Reset and copy back.
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If you are stock without root or mods then Samsung Smart Switch should work. Google also syncs most things like apps and data, contacts, wifi passwords, etc and you can use a multitude of apps to backup call logs and texts. If you are rooted, you can use something like Titanium Backup. Then copy your internal storage to your Mac. Reset and copy back.
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Ah yes I forgot to mention - my phone is not rooted. Are there any apps you recommend to back up texts and such? I didn't know whether Smart Switch was just for when you were switching phones.. I'm guessing it can restore once everything is backed up and the phone has been reset? Will make sure to back things up to Google too. Thanks
http://www.samsung.com/us/support/smart-switch-support/#!/faqs/1
They have a Mac version. It should be able to backup your messages and such according to their FAQs. I like Call Log Backup and Restore and SMS Backup and Restore for apps on the phone. Very simple and works for most any phone or Android version.
If you're not rooted Samsung Kies should be able to do the backup for you.
popthosegaskets said:
If you're not rooted Samsung Kies should be able to do the backup for you.
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With the S6 / S6 Edge, they introduced Smart Switch to replace Kies.
Thanks all! Will look into SmartSwitch and the other aforementioned apps. Really appreciate it! Also, is there any other way to connect the phone to my Macbook other than using Android File Transfer? I find the application very buggy and it keeps disconnecting from the phone when I'm trying to do stuff.
I don't use Macs, but I would suggest either an app like Wifi File Explorer Pro or if you are comfortable with command line stuff, just use adb.

Any way to root with no wipe???

I have my lg v30 about 2 years, i bought it new and ni wish i had thought about rootin when i had nothing inside... now i have notes, important sms's contacts, calentar, media, apps and app setings, a tone of things time worhting of backup and restore... but i need it rooted now that the battery bents under its weight i need to remove the bloatware and i can't without root... if someone knows anything....
bkokkinos said:
I have my lg v30 about 2 years, i bought it new and ni wish i had thought about rootin when i had nothing inside... now i have notes, important sms's contacts, calentar, media, apps and app setings, a tone of things time worhting of backup and restore... but i need it rooted now that the battery bents under its weight i need to remove the bloatware and i can't without root... if someone knows anything....
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You can remove bloatware using adb
You'll have to manually backup media.
Contacts and SMS could be backed up using apps on playstore. Contacts could also be backup up to your google account
You can try using LG's inbuilt backup creator but not all app data/settings would be backed up.
I would be more concerned that you have no backup to begin with... rather than worrying about how to root without erasing. Without a backup, if something happens to the phone, you'll lose everything anyway.
GET A BACKUP FIRST... figure out how to do that and make sure it works for all your important data. It may not be a single app to do it... you may need multiple ways. For SMS I use https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.riteshsahu.SMSBackupRestore but there are many others. For pictures and videos, I use Gphotos, though that is losing its free space in the summer, but I think you can still use it for now. If not there are others (Amazon does this for Prime users), Etc.
If it's important, you MUST have a backup. Whether it's phones, computers, or whatever.
schwinn8 said:
I would be more concerned that you have no backup to begin with... rather than worrying about how to root without erasing. Without a backup, if something happens to the phone, you'll lose everything anyway.
GET A BACKUP FIRST... figure out how to do that and make sure it works for all your important data. It may not be a single app to do it... you may need multiple ways. For SMS I use https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.riteshsahu.SMSBackupRestore but there are many others. For pictures and videos, I use Gphotos, though that is losing its free space in the summer, but I think you can still use it for now. If not there are others (Amazon does this for Prime users), Etc.
If it's important, you MUST have a backup. Whether it's phones, computers, or whatever.
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i have backup of my media. The most i concern about are the app data and settings. In my past devices i never succeeded to recover settings and app settings completely.
bkokkinos said:
I have my lg v30 about 2 years, i bought it new and ni wish i had thought about rootin when i had nothing inside... now i have notes, important sms's contacts, calentar, media, apps and app setings, a tone of things time worhting of backup and restore... but i need it rooted now that the battery bents under its weight i need to remove the bloatware and i can't without root... if someone knows anything....
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Sorry, you can't root without wiping. Bootloader unlock itself will automatically wipe the phone. You need bootloader unlock to root.
And even the temporary installation of the early Oreo firmware you need for bootloader unlock (unless you are on that firmware already) will wipe the phone, since you will be installing it either via Refurbish mode or Partition DL mode. You only need to stay on that early Oreo firmware long enough to utilize the WTF exploit to unlock bootloader, then you can update back to newer firmware.)
But there's TWO instances right there where your phone will be wiped completely before you can install TWRP and root.

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