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OK so my G Tablet is on the way and I've been reading and came across a comment on another forum that the ROM's that exist are built on the original stock software and that the most recent update may be causing problems with CWM? I will be getting my G Tablet on Wednesday, should I not do the update if I am going to be flashing a custom ROM? Thanks in advance!
drum747,
I believe everyone should make their own decisions. But if you ask me -- I'd tell you to simply stick with a stock G-Tablet right now.
When you get yours and go to Settings/About you can see the version -- something
like 1.1.xxxx -- probably 3588. If not, just about as soon as you get wifi connected
it will offer you an OTA (on the air) update to 3588. That's the current working version, and compared to the crud we had back last November it really isn't bad software.
It will lack the Market and some other things...you may have to be patient there.
But you can still side-load apps and download apps directly from a number of places.
But we are waiting. Our devs have found that there is software for a possible
Update 3991. The hope is that OTA 3991 will come down in the next few weeks.
If so, at 3588 stock you will be in perfect shape for that update. And then once you
have worked with it a while, you will be able to decide whether to stick with it -- or look at other options.
It seems like everyone who come in here looks at the ROMs available like a "all-you-can-eat" buffet. The immediately start flashing ROMs and moving around software
until something goes wrong and they are stuck. Indigestion!
With a good 3588 tablet, you can read and interact here and find out the biggest and
the best, and you can learn what you need to that when you are ready you can
move up to whatever you want without problems.
Do what you want. Enjoy the G-Tablet. I think it pretty darn good!
Rev
I agree.........
Stick with the most current stock version 3588. The next update officially available from viewsonic should be very soon, but I don't think it will be 3991 as advertised
3558 was different than what it started as, or it would seem based on what I have gathered from reading old threads.
ale
You know, I have a Droid X and have really enjoyed rooting it and trying different ROM's and was really looking forward to the same type of experience on this tablet. What is the advantage of waiting until the next update? Can't I update, do a full backup and go back to that if I want? Once I install a different ROM, I am then stuck at whatever update and no further updates? Is that why you are saying to wait? Are you saying there will be even better ROM's down the road based on the new update that is coming? Or just that the new update coming might have all the things we would like?
The next update might have some cool stuff... might even be as good or better than the custom stuff here... maybe...
Question is... did you buy the tablet to use it for media consumption or tinkering?
Answer that and you'll know what to do. Just don't forget to make nvflash to factory stock your best friend ;-)
A little of both I guess. Part of the reason I chose this tablet over others is because of the support and customization (and price!) I will try to wait for the next update before I tweak it (if I can!) Heh!! Thanks for the responses guys!! I appreciate the input!
K J Rad said:
The next update might have some cool stuff... might even be as good or better than the custom stuff here... maybe...
Question is... did you buy the tablet to use it for media consumption or tinkering?
Answer that and you'll know what to do. )
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This is without the best quote I could image. Tinkering without first using the tab and getting to realize it's not a giant phone is the first step I think everyone should understand.
And if you do tinker then you should expect it to have opportunities (problems ).
drum747,
Not addressing your abilities or anything about you.
But read all the crash and burn threads on this forum.
IMHO, to many people are trying to do to much too fast and are
messing up their tabs and have to be bailed out.
I'm just saying be cautious, move slowly and carefully and
don't get into trouble.
However, my advice still stands. If you move on to other
ROMS, etc. now, you will cut off access to offline updates.
Then you will have to go back to stock, etc. And
sometimes going back is as much as problem as going up!
It still would be easier to stay stock now and if an update
doesn't come down soon -- you will have read and learned
and be ready to make choices.
IMHO.
Rev
IMHO... if it ain't powering your pacemaker then learn how to nvflash and have fun.
Be part of the revolution or watch it happen... ;-)
Thanks guys! I get what you're saying!
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K J Rad said:
... learn how to nvflash and have fun.
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QFT.
nvflash is not hard to get working. With a properly set up nvflash procedure and all the info on these forums, the gTab is an unbrickable as it gets.
updates
I upgraded to the vegan 7, gingerbread, how do I go back to the original stock to get the latest updates from viewsonic when update arrives?
Second that
I absolutely agree to stick with the stock ROM and play for a while. The 3588 update is very stable and usable when you change to Classic Home. I have been using it till now, side loading apps and enjoying a lot without having to worry about custom ROMS and such.
The people who are saying stay stock for the updates are glossing over the fact that the Vs updates will just make the stock UI suck a little less.
Before I bought my G tab I had never had any experience with tablets or smart phones or even android for that matter. I have flashed 4 or 5 roms onto my tablet without incident, no boot loops, no dead tab, no anything that anyone would consider a bad experience. I'm using Vegan 5.1.1 for the record, for the third time.
Read a few of the reflash to stock with nvflash threads to prepare yourself in case something does go wrong, but there is no reason to stay stock on this tablet theres to much dev goodness and too much customizationability ( is that even a word?) not to try different things.
Roxxas049 said:
The people who are saying stay stock for the updates are glossing over the fact that the Vs updates will just make the stock UI suck a little less.
Before I bought my G tab I had never had any experience with tablets or smart phones or even android for that matter. I have flashed 4 or 5 roms onto my tablet without incident, no boot loops, no dead tab, no anything that anyone would consider a bad experience. I'm using Vegan 5.1.1 for the record, for the third time.
Read a few of the reflash to stock with nvflash threads to prepare yourself in case something does go wrong, but there is no reason to stay stock on this tablet theres to much dev goodness and too much customizationability ( is that even a word?) not to try different things.
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Yeah I think it all boils down to what the individual wants and is willing to risk..this forum makes it easy and there are plenty of options to try just always prepare for the unexpected and dealing with the experimentals expect anything to happen!!
Who am I kidding?! There is no way I will be able to wait for the next update. I already have a ton of files set up to load on my G tablet. I will be Modding within hours of my full charge! Guess its just my nature! Thanks guys!
Butch, thanks I will be reading everything to make sure I do it right Thanks for the advice everyone!
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Closing Word...
Everyone that has contributed to this thread--
I have tried to voice the side of conservatism and restraint and
good judgement in this thread. My intention was not to hurt any
feeliings or pick on anyone or rain on anyone's parade.
But if you read what's going on in these forums, there are a lot
of folks having problems. A lot of them are in over their heads and
some have been careless and others made honest mistakes.
I know for my part, I have been working hard to try to help folks
find the tools and make the decisions to get back on track. I'm sure
I have made mistakes and my opinions are mine!
But I speak for myself in saying that even though I am semi-retired
and have more time than most -- I can't keep up this pace. And I've
heard others of the helpers say the same thing.
I also call your attention to the "TwoTapsX" thread and the fact that
the moderators are aware of the problems people are having. Roebeet
has put together a splendid ROM that many think will be the next
generation of G-Tablet software. But because of the complexity of the
mods folks already have had in the tablets, and because of the human
factors listed above -- a lot of folks have messed up their tablets.
In My Humble Opinion: Somebody has got to say that in spite of all the
"opportunities" for mods in these forums -- folks have got to start
exercising more restraint, more good judgement, more common sense in
what they do.
The devs and the folks who are helpers here can't be expected to carry the
load of keeping everyone up and running with the current problem rates. I
sometimes don't agree with the moderators, but this time I see their point.
We users have a good thing here, but if it keeps being abused......
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Having said that, I am done here. I wish you well.
Rev
/EOT
Just an update. Within an hour of booting up I had installed CWM and Vegan. It was an easy process and now I love my g tablet!
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Welcome! Enjoy the koolaid... ;-)
Nice responce
Hi all, i need help.
I seek custom ROM on yarvik tab 410 because in work i need android 2.3.x/3.x .
I searched on web and forum but I have not found anything.
exist custom ROM on this device?
thanks for help
I would second this. A dutch friend of mine asked me to try to find a better rom for this than the stock Android 2.2 it's running (even though it was only released in Nov last year)
As he started telling me why he needed it I went "whoa... that shouldn't do that"
On further research, I found that this particular tablet is some sort of mutant. It's a cheap Chinese clone Flytouch sold under about a dozen different names including Superpad, Android 10, Flytouch 3, Yarvik 410, Mercury, and Ibex. The board is fairly standard for an early tablet (aside from the second SD Card reader), but the rom is the mutation. The advertising for these devices insist that it's "Android 2.3" but in fact it's a custom hack of Android 2.2 (confirmed by my friend) with some oddities in file handling and and labeling (particularly in how it displays the system informations to claim it is what it isn't.)
ANYWAY long story short, after exercising my Google Fu, I found these two links...
Android Tablets forum for Superpad II was the first relevant link I found. User "formigacareca" reported finding a working Firmware flash that was an Android 10 firmware, which made the pad work and removed a lot of the Yarvik-specific branding, but it's still the mutant 2.2 build. Unfortunately, formigacareca never reported back on whether or not ALL features were working on the 410, merely that it seemed to boot and work.
that in turn lead me to Slatedroid. There, user "IAmTheOneTheyCallNeo" has a post under Android tab 10 updated as recently as June 4 2012 which provides links to several other firmwares as well as a couple of ways in which to accomplish loading them. Unfortunately AGAIN, they all still seem to be the mutant build of Android 2.2 in various branding flavours. No one has developed any roms for this beast yet it seems.
My friend says that he is writing Yarvik a nasty letter about why they have not yet offered support or upgrades on this tablet and on why it came with 2.2 so recently, though I told him he is not likely to get anywhere with that.
Meanwhile, if anyone out there happens to find or build another rom for this, let me know please?
eoraptor said:
I would second this. A dutch friend of mine asked me to try to find a better rom for this than the stock Android 2.2 it's running (even though it was only released in Nov last year)
As he started telling me why he needed it I went "whoa... that shouldn't do that"
On further research, I found that this particular tablet is some sort of mutant. It's a cheap Chinese clone Flytouch sold under about a dozen different names including Superpad, Android 10, Flytouch 3, Yarvik 410, Mercury, and Ibex. The board is fairly standard for an early tablet (aside from the second SD Card reader), but the rom is the mutation. The advertising for these devices insist that it's "Android 2.3" but in fact it's a custom hack of Android 2.2 (confirmed by my friend) with some oddities in file handling and and labeling (particularly in how it displays the system informations to claim it is what it isn't.)
ANYWAY long story short, after exercising my Google Fu, I found these two links...
Android Tablets forum for Superpad II was the first relevant link I found. User "formigacareca" reported finding a working Firmware flash that was an Android 10 firmware, which made the pad work and removed a lot of the Yarvik-specific branding, but it's still the mutant 2.2 build. Unfortunately, formigacareca never reported back on whether or not ALL features were working on the 410, merely that it seemed to boot and work.
that in turn lead me to Slatedroid. There, user "IAmTheOneTheyCallNeo" has a post under Android tab 10 updated as recently as June 4 2012 which provides links to several other firmwares as well as a couple of ways in which to accomplish loading them. Unfortunately AGAIN, they all still seem to be the mutant build of Android 2.2 in various branding flavours. No one has developed any roms for this beast yet it seems.
My friend says that he is writing Yarvik a nasty letter about why they have not yet offered support or upgrades on this tablet and on why it came with 2.2 so recently, though I told him he is not likely to get anywhere with that.
Meanwhile, if anyone out there happens to find or build another rom for this, let me know please?
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Has there been any update with this?
Don't think there has been any progress look at the dates when thread was opened and the reply.
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zolaisugly said:
Don't think there has been any progress look at the dates when thread was opened and the reply.
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So what's the next step? finding its illegitimate twin brother's rom and using that? or reverse engineering? or something else?
I am no expert, I simply enjoy rooting pretty much everything I have relating to technology. Now, the Razr is an amazing phone, and BECAUSE its an amazing phone, I decided NOT to root it until a way to Unbrick became available. Well, that day came (A droidrzr dot come link), so of course, I rooted my Razr and installed the only rom I saw available for the VZW version. Here's the dilemma:
I am in no way making demands or trying to offend anyone, I simply have a question: Are there more ROMS coming out for the RAZR? I have seen all of the mods in these forums, I just have no need for them. I ask because the day my Evo 3D became 'rootable', about 4 or 5 ROMS rolled out right pretty much within hours, and while we DO have a custom ROM for the RAZR, umm...that's it. I appreciate the ROM, I have it installed, but supposedly the big deal was that there was no way to recover from an unbricked RAZR, and now there is, yet there's really no activity in the DEV section aside from people arguing about the locked bootloader.
Maybe I'm just ignorant and the fastboot files don't provide any help at all. I'll attribute that to what I said at the beginning, that I'm not an expert. I was just hoping someone could clarify because I literally check this forum twice a day hoping to see [ROM] at the beginning of a post and [CDMA] right next to it.
Thank you beforehand for any help or clarification!
invikto said:
I am no expert, I simply enjoy rooting pretty much everything I have relating to technology. Now, the Razr is an amazing phone, and BECAUSE its an amazing phone, I decided NOT to root it until a way to Unbrick became available. Well, that day came (A droidrzr dot come link), so of course, I rooted my Razr and installed the only rom I saw available for the VZW version. Here's the dilemma:
I am in no way making demands or trying to offend anyone, I simply have a question: Are there more ROMS coming out for the RAZR? I have seen all of the mods in these forums, I just have no need for them. I ask because the day my Evo 3D became 'rootable', about 4 or 5 ROMS rolled out right pretty much within hours, and while we DO have a custom ROM for the RAZR, umm...that's it. I appreciate the ROM, I have it installed, but supposedly the big deal was that there was no way to recover from an unbricked RAZR, and now there is, yet there's really no activity in the DEV section aside from people arguing about the locked bootloader.
Maybe I'm just ignorant and the fastboot files don't provide any help at all. I'll attribute that to what I said at the beginning, that I'm not an expert. I was just hoping someone could clarify because I literally check this forum twice a day hoping to see [ROM] at the beginning of a post and [CDMA] right next to it.
Thank you beforehand for any help or clarification!
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easy answer
there's no real need of completely modded roms, and roms wich went out, are more optimization roms...
and... ics is on the way, think is a little useless, start thinking of making entire projects on gingerbread, knowing in a month we are going on a really different android version
True, true...but wasn't the ICS source/code already released? Or does it depend from device to device?
Hi everyone,
Been lurking here now and again for a couple years but registered to seek some help with my Nexus 7 2012.
Since the Lollipop update my 1st gen N7 has become just this side of unusable. So I got it in my head to try something else, preferably Ubuntu touch since all the fixes for it in it's current state have proven ineffective and I am a long time Ubuntu/Linux user. I have searched and searched but finally decided to just ask since I cannot find an answer.
I am aware that Canonical is no longer supporting my 1st gen N7 with touch but I am hoping there is maybe an Ubuntu Touch ROM out there for my device that is still being maintained by someone else, and if so, could someone possibly point me to it please?
Or if there is some other alternative that I am not aware of that could make my device usable again, I am open to suggestions.
Thanks!
Sadly, you're right. The N7 2017 isn't among the officially supported devices anymore. And as far as I know, there's no unofficial version either.
You could, of course, start maintaining it again. I'm sure a lot of people would be very glad if you did.
nikwen said:
Sadly, you're right. The N7 2017 isn't among the officially supported devices anymore. And as far as I know, there's no unofficial version either.
You could, of course, start maintaining it again. I'm sure a lot of people would be very glad if you did.
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I wish I had those types of skills
Sadly, I am but a mere mortal with no programming chops at all. Maybe someone will have a suggestion or know a solution. I may post this in the main forum to get a few more eyeballs on it and see if anyone has a good idea of what I can do.
Just a bump, waited until the .1 update came out to see if that would help any, it didn't. Anyone have any suggestion for what I can do? My N7 is just a useless brick at this point. Ubuntu touch would probably be my preferred option if a decent one exists.
Thanks
Freetel Samurai Kiwami (FTU152D)
Any current development? Considering buying it. Surprising to me there's no easy way to root & ROMS galore for this. I mean the specs & the build quality are amazing for $95 new.
Thank you.
It's a nice phone but be careful rooting and flashing, make sure backup beforehand. I wrote a few posts a while back on rooting, backing up, and restoring etc. but other than that there is not much development for this phone because the manufacturer never updated beyond lollipop for the US version of this phone. I got close to getting the ftj152d's marshmallow rom working on this phone but just couldn't restore the IMEI info after updating to marshmallow.
Thank you. I did search & read your informative posts.
I decided against & bought a used [mint? we'll see, hasn't shipped] Motorola Nexus 6.
I'll be reading & searching like mad before asking & rooting. That is if it's in mint condition.
Android# said:
It's a nice phone but be careful rooting and flashing, make sure backup beforehand.
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I've been reading up on XDA over the last couple of days on this device and appreciate that information also.
I've written directly to Freetel to see if the Marshmallow (6.0) update is obtainable here in the USA, as I doubt it will come over the air, but one was made available.
I decided to ask the following here since it's one of the more recent threads on this device: Has anyone used it with T-Mobile's network in the USA and, if so, are you able to get 4G LTE on the device? Also, is the GPS any good?
I am currently using it with T-Mobile and getting LTE fine. Last week I used this phone with a GPS intensive app, while it worked, it was a bit laggy/delayed, it takes the phone up to a minute sometimes to update its GPS location.
As far as 6.0, I have tried the ROM for Japanese version of this phone, imei info disappears for both sim slots and the US radio bands (such as band 12, needed for T-Mobile also get greyed out, and instead Japanese region bands become enabled with that ROM). I also contacted freetel multiple times but they were not willing to provide a ROM link. I am trying a different approach to try mix a ROM from another phone such as redmi note 2 or 3 to see if it works.
I really appreciate your taking the time to make this response and for being so thorough.
The phone looks great overall, I just hate using an unsupported version of Android and that's why I was hoping that either the 6.0 version from Freetel was available in the US version or that someone might have made a custom mod by now, but it appears not.
With regard to your GPS, have you tried GPS Status & Toolbox to see just what's going on with its ability to get and keep a fix? It's a wonderful utility and gives you scads of detailed information. GPS Test is good, too, and a bit more user friendly in its presentation but not quite as detailed. Both can give you some useful information as to what's happening with the GPS "under the hood".
I am wondering if you had any success with putting together a 6.0 Rom that kept the bands and imei info correct. I wish I knew more about all the software you have talked about in your great help article for people who have tried to flash the ftj152d rom. If there is any way I might help you in your efforts please let me know. I really like this phone and I would like to have more control of it.
Thanks.