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Was wondering if anyone could chime in. I havent seen either in person (going to staples today to see the nexus 10) and would appreciate it if anyone had any opinions.
Screen resolution and ppi- The nexus 10 obviously has a higher resolution and ppi, but side by side can you really even tell on a 10 inch tablet? I've read many reviews that have talked about how the difference between 1080p and retina/nexus 10 etc is not very noticeble at all.. Also this doesnt take into account contrast and brightness etc, if anyone can comment on the differences between the two screens Id appreciate it.
Size and feel- the Z is the thinnest and lightest 10 incher, but the nexus 10 seems to have an easier to hold back surface? I have a xperia zl smartphone and I chose this over the slightly more expensive Z bc it just felt easier to hold, even though it was thicker and had a curved back. Wondering if the same can be applied here in regards to the feel of both the Z and the N10.
Mouse- The nexus 10 can use a mouse, can the Z utilize one too? I'd like to be able to have a asus infinity transformer like setup with a bluetooth keyboard and a mouse etc for more capability when I travel, so I dont have to lug around my laptop.
Where?- I found out the N10 is only available in the retail outlets of Staples and sometimes walmart and sams club, where can I see the Z? Besides an official sony store, will it be available in any retail outlets? I have time to ponder this, as the Z just came out and cant be found for under 500.00 (for the 16g wifi) whereas the N10 has been around over 6 months and can be had used for 380 off ebay, etc.
Also not that this matters but Google should be announcing the next version of the N10 soon which will obviously trump both of these spec wise but with tech gadgets time will always bring worth a new winner.
Overall it seems the Xperia Z is for those that value the design asthetic, as well as the unique features such as the waterproof nature of it and remote control. The screen and battery are above average, but it seems its mostly about the design and thinness/weight etc.
Thanks~
Hi,
I'm actually getting rid of my Nexus 10 and purchasing the Z (I've had the 10 since it launched). The Nexus 10 would be a great tablet but for one issue: Apparently there is a memory leak with the "surfaceflinger" process that'll periodically cause the tablet to seize up and reboot. Using Chrome and viewing videos exacerbates the problem. I finally flashed the Sentinel ROM, and it was much more stable (Chrome uninstalled, using Firefox), but it'll still regularly lock up. Note that the memory leak is in a non-open binary module of some sort, so the modding community can't really help at this point. There's a bug filed, but Google, as always, seems pretty indifferent (granted it may be a bug with the Mali graphics drivers).
Other things I have found annoying with the Nexus 10 is its lack of 3rd party accessory support, as well as its somewhat chintzy build feel--my back flexes a bit and the removable strip on the back is creaky. Next, it STILL seems that there are games that aren't really optimized for the tablet and bog down in spite of its supposedly state of the art A15 processor--I think that's slowly improving, though. Finally, the battery life isn't the best (note that I root and freeze everything I don't use).
On a positive note, the screen is sharp as a tack, and with the right launcher (I've been using Nova) it's feels plenty fast.
Hope this helps.
Regards,
John Francis
I've had both and been disappointed by both.
The Nexus 10 seems to be plagued with issues like that graphics bug described above and a bunch of quality assurance issues (stuff stuck between glass and screen during manufacturing and edge colour bleed).
The Xperia Tablet Z seems to be having issues with the backing coming unstuck (double-sided tape is perhaps not the most robust manufacturing material), screen flexing and watertight stoppers over ports not being sufficiently watertight.
After 5 defective tablets of 3 different species (Nexus 7, Nexus 10 and Xperia) since last November, I'm waiting for the new batch (Tegra 4 Toshiba and Nexus 7 refresh) before I try again.
If you do decide to pull the trigger on either now — Nexus 10 if you like the screen and prompt Android updates or Xperia if you value the lightness, SD card expansion and IR blaster — your best bet is to open it up in-store and test it for it's known issues right then and there so you can exchange it right away.
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Screen resolution and ppi- The nexus 10 obviously has a higher resolution and ppi, but side by side can you really even tell on a 10 inch tablet? I've read many reviews that have talked about how the difference between 1080p and retina/nexus 10 etc is not very noticeble at all.. Also this doesnt take into account contrast and brightness etc, if anyone can comment on the differences between the two screens Id appreciate it.
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I believe that the screen resolution shouldn't be a problem at regular viewing distance. I actually find text more pleasing on my SO-03E versus the iPad 3 I have lying around. But obviously if you want absolute sharpness, the Nexus 10 delivers.
Do note of course that the Nexus 10's ultra high resolution means that you'll have more difficulty finding wallpapers of that resolution, and more content/apps than on any other tablet will look fuzzy and low-res. As it is I already notice most apps having screen elements showing pixellation on the XPERIA Tablet Z or iPad.
Brightness and contrast on the XPERIA Tablet Z are good, but not exceptional. I cannot give an opinion on the Nexus 10, it isn't really officially sold in my country so as much as I wanted one at the time I'd have to go out of my way to get it!
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Size and feel- the Z is the thinnest and lightest 10 incher, but the nexus 10 seems to have an easier to hold back surface? I have a xperia zl smartphone and I chose this over the slightly more expensive Z bc it just felt easier to hold, even though it was thicker and had a curved back. Wondering if the same can be applied here in regards to the feel of both the Z and the N10.
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The XPERIA Tablet Z has a very nice (almost like ultra smooth, grippy leather) rear texturing - it stays in my palm even at a nearly 80 degree vertical angle. The grippy matte plastic on the back, the sheer thinness and weight of the tablet make it extremely easy for me to carry it, personally.
I have little to no qualms using it one handed, or even just carrying it around in the hand like a paper folder, as it pretty much weighs like one. The fact that it lacks rounded edges is circumvented by the thinness. Unlike the Z phone, it's much larger so you have enough space on each side to place your hands, rather than having to cup the device in your hand. It's pretty much like holding a magazine.
The tablet's rigidity is pretty impressive for me (although it can flex a tiny bit) and it feels very solid throughout. Only the buttons feel a little mushy, but otherwise build quality is sternly high on my unit. Of course I wouldn't be surprised if Japanese units have tighter quality control.
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Mouse- The nexus 10 can use a mouse, can the Z utilize one too? I'd like to be able to have a asus infinity transformer like setup with a bluetooth keyboard and a mouse etc for more capability when I travel, so I dont have to lug around my laptop.
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I just tried this with an OTG cable and a small wired mobile mouse, an ASUS notebook one in fact. Works a-OK, but the position of the MicroUSB port is moderately unwieldy in practice and you'll of course have to deal with the flaps.
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Where?- I found out the N10 is only available in the retail outlets of Staples and sometimes walmart and sams club, where can I see the Z? Besides an official sony store, will it be available in any retail outlets? I have time to ponder this, as the Z just came out and cant be found for under 500.00 (for the 16g wifi) whereas the N10 has been around over 6 months and can be had used for 380 off ebay, etc.
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The XPERIA Tablet Z's definitely a pricey prospect, but if you're willing to forego warranty sellers like eBay have Japanese models for cheaper, or you can even get a friend in Japan to try shipping you one. I saw some Japanese e-tailers selling it for like $150 less than expected when searching for my own. I believe the Nexus 10 is also sold direct via Google Play? Is it cheaper that way?
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Also not that this matters but Google should be announcing the next version of the N10 soon which will obviously trump both of these spec wise but with tech gadgets time will always bring worth a new winner.
Overall it seems the Xperia Z is for those that value the design asthetic, as well as the unique features such as the waterproof nature of it and remote control. The screen and battery are above average, but it seems its mostly about the design and thinness/weight etc.
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It'll never end, but if you're willing to wait, by all means. I was getting impatient myself and desired a lighter, attractive design with LTE (the Nexus 10 doesn't have LTE...), a MicroSD slot and water-resistance. I also prefer WUXGA (1920x1200) over WQXGA (2560x1600) because the 1920x1080 resolution is much more common (1080p video, same resolution as my desktop monitor and TV). WQXGA is mostly used only by 30" professional monitors, and rarely are there wallpapers let alone content made for it. The Sony tab's also one of the few ones around featuring the WUXGA resolution, I can only think of one other tablet and it's by Acer.
Also you'll want to note that the XPERIA Tablet Z only has the S4 Pro, which is slightly behind the Snapdragon 600, while incoming models will likely feature Snapdragon 800, or perhaps ASUS' new Infinity might interest you with its Tegra 4 chip.
The XPERIA Tablet Z's definitely at the slightly lower end of the future ready spectrum, due to; Snapdragon S4 vs Snapdragon 600 (slightly weaker CPU, but almost equal GPU), lower resolution (WUXGA vs WQXGA, but this isn't a con for me) and Android 4.1 vs 4.2 (complete with slower updates). But I was willing to compromise for what it gave in return.
I'm happy with mine, so if you can see both in person, weigh your opinions and desires. That said my XPERIA Tablet Z definitely gets some attention from people, compared to the Galaxy Note/Tabs that are increasingly commonsight.
I hope that helps.
Is it just me or does this lag a little.?!
Don't get me wrong i love it, it's just i have a nexus 5 with the snapdragon 800 in it and it's perfectly smooth.
It's quick.. but not as good, particularly in web browsing zooming and scrolling. (sometimes you touch things when you dont mean too, sometimes it's slow to pinch zoom,maybe this is the touch screen issue not shaw.. )
Hopefully it's just software and sony will get it better. With this hardware it should be perfect!
Have you upgraded the firmware to the latest available ? Some people reported occasional lags that went away after upgrading.
yes I'm on 402..but my nexus 5 is smoother and it shouldn't be..anyway I'm still happy..
The touch screen does have a grounding issue, of which the severity seems to differ per device. Maybe that's what you are experiencing.
A 10.1 inch tablet which has the same specifications and is exactly as fast as a 5 inch smartphone will ALWAYS seem more laggy!
This is just because lags which are very small on the phone (bordering on un-perceivable) are magnified on the tablet and thus seem more severe!
But in reality it's just a matter of scale, an optical "illusion".
the nexus 5 has resolution 1080 x1920 and a slower cpu snapdragon 800...
i think maybe it is a touch screen issue, it's a bit random.
I'm sure sony will get it better..
Nexus has same resolution. Nexus is a pure android software with minimal background processes. Sony has customized their own ui with extra and not as optimized background processes. There is also the scale thing, where as u won't notice lag on small screen as much as big screen.
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Yes, right.
Coreo, you can use alternative launcher instead of the Sony one; you can root the device and disable/uninstall the Sony bloatware/unnecessary background processes.
coreo said:
the nexus 5 has higher resolution 1080 x1920 and a slower cpu snapdragon 800...
i think maybe it is a touch screen issue, it's a bit random.
I'm sure sony will get it better..
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The Z2 tablet actually has a marginally higher resolution of 1920x1200 pixels.
fair enough... but it still feels smoother and quicker.. yes I've rooted, deleted a few sony apps, replaced the keyboard with swift keyboard and installed nova launcher..
PS im not complaining, it's still fast and am very happy with it. im just comparing it against the snap dragon 800, as a fair or unfair comparison it may or may not be..
in someways its a good thing as sony have room to improve..
Hi, I've had this season many phones, including the LG G3, SAMSUNG GALAXY S5, HTC ONE M8 and IPHONE 5S ... until 2 days ago that I bought my new SONY XPERIA ULTRA Z, and say, I'm delighted.
The Lg g3 is pure lag, lag everywhere, either version ko which is, anyway, this is very poorly optimized emovil.
The samsung galaxy s5 is fine, but still does not bring me too, has good camera and good video recording but little more.
The htc one m8 is the more fluid cell phone that I have had, is already playing and the screen where you indicated you ... wonderful, and also good materials etc (which I sold for hobby)
The iphone 5s is a good mobile but small screen and limitations ... that if enough of losd best camera ... and very quickly the photo shoot.
Tired of being a mobile almost every week (yes, believe me), I saw a good deal on a store in my city, the ultra z sony xperia 4G at a great price, and the truth or what I thought ...
Well, the screen is a delight while not ips is tft but with very good contrast, complete fluency .... and now that I just happen to fly this GOOGLE EDITION, also to watch movies, surf, play etc is lovely.
Also now I have the ionplementacion in art, and goes even faster, if that came out just one year ago but is still top mobile practically, with 2 gigs of ram, big screen of 6.44 inches 1080p FULL HD, processor 800 to 2.2 SNAPDRAGON rendering and long life you have left, water resistant up to 128 cards supports gigs, the safest thing we ANDROID L, even the GOOGLE EDITION.
Abri this post to comment that I like it a lot the phone, I've also had the note 3 and really, it looked like toy beside ..
a hug and long life to the ULTRA Z !!
Congrats and welcome One small correction though, the Ultra has an IPS panel and not a TFT. It was the first Sony phone (as far as i know) to use an IPS panel. The Z1 on the other hand (which got released around the same time as the Ultra) has a TFT panel.
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Congrats and welcome One small correction though, the Ultra has an IPS panel and not a TFT. It was the first Sony phone (as far as i know) to use an IPS panel. The Z1 on the other hand (which got released around the same time as the Ultra) has a TFT panel.
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I Always thought it looked a lot better but I stayed with tft doubt, that just solved me a hug and thanks !!:good:
H. E. Pennypacker said:
Congrats and welcome One small correction though, the Ultra has an IPS panel and not a TFT. It was the first Sony phone (as far as i know) to use an IPS panel. The Z1 on the other hand (which got released around the same time as the Ultra) has a TFT panel.
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Can not see if the internet ips haha, pass me a link if you can please
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Can not see if the internet ips haha, pass me a link if you can please
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Well, to make it a little more technical, TFT LCD - or "Thin-film-transistor liquid-crystal display" is what every LCD display out there is. IPS, or "In-Plane Switching" is still TFT, but improved in several areas (like viewing angles and contrast). The Z1 uses a TN VA-TFT LCD panel (which is the standard and older TFT technology with poor(er) viewing angles, while the Z Ultra, Z2, Z3 etc. uses AH-IPS TFT LCD panels which solves the viewing angle issues and also contrast. Most places will simply refer the panel as a TFT LCD, but devs and other more in-depth articles (which hilariously i can't seem to find now) have confirmed that the Z Ultra does indeed have an IPS panel.
There are to different types of panels used in the Z Ultra. A Sharp panel, which looks to be the best one (contrast is a little better) and an AUO panel. You can check your own display by using ADB or running a command directly from a mobile terminal on your Ultra. I do however (again) not remember the command, but i guess someone else around here will have it.
H. E. Pennypacker said:
Well, to make it a little more technical, TFT LCD - or "Thin-film-transistor liquid-crystal display" is what every LCD display out there is. IPS, or "In-Plane Switching" is still TFT, but improved in several areas (like viewing angles and contrast). The Z1 uses a TN VA-TFT LCD panel (which is the standard and older TFT technology with poor(er) viewing angles, while the Z Ultra, Z2, Z3 etc. uses AH-IPS TFT LCD panels which solves the viewing angle issues and also contrast. Most places will simply refer the panel as a TFT LCD, but devs and other more in-depth articles (which hilariously i can't seem to find now) have confirmed that the Z Ultra does indeed have an IPS panel.
There are to different types of panels used in the Z Ultra. A Sharp panel, which looks to be the best one (contrast is a little better) and an AUO panel. You can check your own display by using ADB or running a command directly from a mobile terminal on your Ultra. I do however (again) not remember the command, but i guess someone else around here will have it.
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thank you very much for the explanation !!, actually my screen seems very good, and I've not had a few phones, a hug !![emoji2]
I recently got a Google Play edition and it's been refreshing. My Mega (6.3) was killing me from all sorts of things, So glad to not have to deal with Samsung anymore. Also get to finally use LTE too.
Hi!
I was wondering if anyone here has gone from a Xperia Z Ultra (6.44" screen) to the Z3 tablet.
It seems Sony has no plans of any similar size phones so after the Ultra, its hard for me to think of any smaller phone. I kind of wanted to get the Nvidia Shield 32GB LTE but since you cannot use it for phone calls, at least not regular ones, the Z3 Tablet is currently my only choice it seems.
Still its bigger than I wanted but looks like the smallest option WITH call support.
Any feedback is welcome!
I own both however I got the 32 WiFi tablet and regret it as I use both when on the road and really should have got the LTE version as it would be perfect for an all rounder.
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I switched from a Galaxy Tab, but I am using the Z3TC as my phone. Speakerphone works well and you can get a solid Plantronics bluetooth for cheap on eBay.
It is pocketable (for me), and it has an extra GB of RAM compared to the Ultra. A 7.4" screen size, with a slightly wider bezel (I find myself touching the side of the screen by mistake) would be ideal, but I am generally pleased (6.4 with soft keys is a bit small to me).
The Nvidia Shield is less pocketable (or should be based on specs) and is almost 50% heavier and has less RAM and hence probably wouldn't run as smoothly. If you were considering the Shield, I have no clue why you would shy away from the Z3TC.
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I switched from a Galaxy Tab, but I am using the Z3TC as my phone. Speakerphone works well and you can get a solid Plantronics bluetooth for cheap on eBay.
It is pocketable (for me), and it has an extra GB of RAM compared to the Ultra. A 7.4" screen size, with a slightly wider bezel (I find myself touching the side of the screen by mistake) would be ideal, but I am generally pleased (6.4 with soft keys is a bit small to me).
The Nvidia Shield is less pocketable (or should be based on specs) and is almost 50% heavier and has less RAM and hence probably wouldn't run as smoothly. If you were considering the Shield, I have no clue why you would shy away from the Z3TC.
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I need to find one locally to see how it feels as my phone. I mean, I love my Ultra but just wanted a bit bigger.
Thanks for the feedback guys!
Just a general poll here. Which tablet have you guys found has the best web browsing experience? This is all encompassing also. From screen clarity/brightness, to tablet weight and scroll lag.
So far the best tablet browsing I have used is an ipad mini 2 (ughhhhh). Fast scrolling, good battery life, but 60%ish RGB gamut makes everything seem dull (and, ya know, iOS).
Here have been my notes over the last few months:
Galaxy tab s 8.4 - fantastic screen, great speakers, quite sluggish scrolling, ok battery. capacitive buttons are not preferred, and speaker placement sucks (a lot).
Nexus 9 (day 1 haven't used since sending it back) - bad light bleed, mediocre speakers, good performance, heavy
Venue 8 7000 - great speakers, best scrolling I've seen on android (with very minimal lag), can run quite hot at times, wifi is very iffy depending on location to router, and how you hold it
Xperia z3 tablet - ok speakers, great browsing, screen is good AND horrible. Good if looking right at it, but if you move it at all the screen puts off a horrible rainbow shimmer. Ive heard it has to do with screen polarization on a large number of devices. A week of reading manga gave me a headache as the shimmer is worse on white colors.
What im looking for is a tablet to browse the web, play music/youtube, and the occasional light game (FF record keeper mainly right now).
Judging fro my list, NVidia shield is a possible option. Also, nexus 9 after software revisions. Or maybe some random tablet I don't know of. Or waiting til a new nexus or galaxy tab come out. What is your all input?