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Hello everyone,
I've had my sgs3 over a year now and enjoyed every bit of it. now im looking for a replacement but on cheaper side. it doesn't need to be a flagship and I mostly look for gamin and multimedia capabilities with best camera for the price. so I came across Xiaomi Note Enhanced version for about 200$ and it seems just about perfect. mainly Meadiatek 1.7Ghzx8 CPU, Mali-450 GPU with 2gb ram it seems like a steal. but Im afraid of what Im losing and what Im gaining.I have no expierince with MIUI evr. so if you can share your thought, Its much appreciated.
1. would MIUI run every droid game and apps like regular Android? (I know about xposed not working. but im concerned about TB, Greenify, SuperSU, Root Explorer.
2. It says Mali-450 is 1.4x improvement over Mali-400. but our SGS3 runs mali400mp4 and clocked 533. so how would this par?
3. I dont care about screen mirroring DLNA and stuff. but for sound quality I crave. so anyone have expierience with xiaomi sound, input will be a great help.
4. for the last, I would like to know your opinion as I think of giving my s3 to my gf if I got satisfied with Redmi Note. but of course never leave the forum sake of im a xda user who wouldn't use a phone in regular manner is it worth to give away s3 over this redmi note?
Thank you.
I just got the Redmi Note, maybe this will help you a little?
http://colonelzap.blogspot.de/2014/06/xiaomi-redmi-note-video-review-enhanced.html
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I just got the Redmi Note, maybe this will help you a little?
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I'm planning to order mine this week, but little disappointment because no supports on XDA, have a question where do you get Xiaomi Redmi Note custom Roms? Thanks
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I'm planning to order mine this week, but little disappointment because no supports on XDA, have a question where do you get Xiaomi Redmi Note custom Roms? Thanks
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Custom ROMs will be a problem since there aren't enough devs to port or build roms for that device.
And I've spoken to just 2 Xiaomi users and they don't like it at all. It's not just about the number of cores in the CPU or GPU. MTK is A-7 based and offers poor performance compared to A-9 or A-15 CPU.
RazorMC said:
Custom ROMs will be a problem since there aren't enough devs to port or build roms for that device.
And I've spoken to just 2 Xiaomi users and they don't like it at all. It's not just about the number of cores in the CPU or GPU. MTK is A-7 based and offers poor performance compared to A-9 or A-15 CPU.
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Damn! such a bad news. My budget is $200 dollars and the lists of phones I have in mind are: Xiaomi Redmi Note,iOcean X7 Elite,THL T11 MTK6592 and Huawei Honor 3C Quad Core.. But like you see they all have MTK.... Sinse all have the same performance I was thinking to get one well known company better..
Go for redmi note. You, as a normal user, won't give rat's ass about a15, a9 etc. The a7 octa gives enough performance for everyday use. And miui is da bomb
Sent from my HM NOTE 1W
I agree, good performance, and redmi note is a good phone
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I'm planning to order mine this week, but little disappointment because no supports on XDA, have a question where do you get Xiaomi Redmi Note custom Roms? Thanks
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Hopefully you held off for the Note 2 it's @ 1.7GHz , not the 1.4 GHz the original note was at.
Development is centered at the MIUI site, go there for more info.
Over all the phone is fast, very fast, so fast you will only see the difference between the A9/17 or Snapdragon 800 8274AB 2.3GHz and the A7 by software measurements.
I'm deciding between the Note 2 and the THL 5000.
5½" and 3300mAh Vs 5" and 5000mAh
so at the end,
which smart phone did you buy ?
i already bought a Redmi Note
still enjoying it
Well... I have two units here just arrived...Almost everything work as it should, but I have problems making data connection working. Wi-fi works great, but data over mobile network doesn't want to work at all. I've checked out on both units using different SIM cards (from different providers). I have to mention that the SIM cards work using other phones. AND I have to say that didn't want to sign up yet for any of the xiaomi services (cloud and rest). It must be somewhere in MIUI a setting. MIUI is a customised version of Android.
For the price seems to be a good product.
Hi, There's a lot of ROMS
movilesdualsim.com/foros/roms-xiaomi-redmi-note.504/ :victory:
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Well... I have two units here just arrived...Almost everything work as it should, but I have problems making data connection working. Wi-fi works great, but data over mobile network doesn't want to work at all. I've checked out on both units using different SIM cards (from different providers). I have to mention that the SIM cards work using other phones. AND I have to say that didn't want to sign up yet for any of the xiaomi services (cloud and rest). It must be somewhere in MIUI a setting. MIUI is a customised version of Android.
For the price seems to be a good product.
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there are 3 version of redmi note2 (which you probably have). One of them is made for China 3g networks and other is WSCDMA.
When battery is removed you can read which version you have (maybe it's not usable on your networks).
Bought redmi note recently and I can say that it feels faster that Samsung Note 2 (I have both phones).
xiaomi phones are not replacement but best phones
...in terms of hardware specs and value for money, looks is something personal. Why branded phones are very expensive are because of their marketing cost and the cost attached to the brand value. Other than that xiaomi phones are very good.
My cousin bought the Xiaomi Mi3 and i bought a Redmi 1S for my fiance and both the phones are awesome and have very good camera and sound quality.
I have been using Galaxy S3 since 2012, and let me tell you I have been using MIUI Rom even before on my Sony Xperia X10, so as I got my S3 i rooted it and installed MIUI rom.
Yes, all your apps and games will run without any problem as it is Android, every manufacturer have their own version of Launcher and apps to differentiate their phones. What made me fall in love with MIUI were its native apps and features (like call recording which is available only when rooting, but in Xiaomi phones this is built in), and themes (you can change everything to your liking with one click- the dialer, messaging, statusbar, wallpaper, bopot animation, lockscreen, font, etc. or change each individually, and their themes are awesome).
I would suggest you to go for Xiaomi Mi3 if it suits your budget. But if you already have Samsung Galaxy S3 and if its performing good enough, then no point buying a phone with similar hardware. I am waiting for Mi4 to launch in India. Its a kickass phone (google it).
keep 'em both
Got both phones. Still love my SGS3 for the customizations.
More Redmi Note ROMs here:
http://en.miui.com/thread-26132-1-1.html
flashed mine with the ported Color OS. performed better than the original MIUI OS. you could also try the AOSP ROM faux 4.4.2 (actually its just 4.2.2) seem nice. i just dont like the developer switched the main storage for the external and so on..
Hey XDA Community,
after 3 1/2 years i'll retire my Galaxy S3 and get a new phone. So far so easy.
But as a Android enthusiast, i can't just buy a new phone, it has to be a phone which offers a good hardware base for using custom roms. And what i learned in the last 3 1/2 years is that, for example, Samsungs Exynos processors are NOT a good hardware base and rom developers hate Exynos processors.
So here we come to the magic question: Which is, from a developer view, the best, and what are acceptable processor brands which allow developers to develop a rom (more precisely the "device tree") which can make use of all of the processors features and its performance?
I think the following two brands are well known among all custom rom users and don't need to be commented:
Exynos -> as described above, "the Antichrist"
Qualcomm Snapdragon -> as far as i know the Holy Grail for developers
But what about the "underdogs"? How developer friendly are the following processor brands which now appear more and more in (flagship) phones from Huawei, Xiaomi and many other smaller phone manufacturers:
MediaTek (currently used by some Acer phones)
Hisilicon Kirin (for example used by the Huawei Ascend Mate 7, Huawei Honor 6 ...)
Nvidia Tegra (for example used by the new Google Pixel C tablet)
Intel Atom (for example used by the Asus ZenFone 2)
I'm excited about your experience with and recommendations for these "underdogs", especially if you are a developer!
Best regards,
Mika
Mediatek - Not developer friendly. Not easy to create custom ROMs for this brand of SoC.
Never heard of Hisilicon Kirin SoC. Not too sure about Nvidia Tegra.
No one else interessted in this issue?
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No one else interessted in this issue?
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Only qualcomm.
Hisilicon is a no go. No sources.
Sony + Qualcomm is the best choice.
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I added the "Intel Atom" processors to the list of choice. Perhaps a little late, but i think it's not unimportant.
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I added the "Intel Atom" processors to the list of choice. Perhaps a little late, but i think it's not unimportant.
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Intel is a no go as well since it's pretty new. As for your choice of SoC, it really depends on your needs. If you want to use a custom ROM, you're best off with Qualcomm. Otherwise most SoC will work fine for you. I own a Galaxy S6(Exynos SoC), unknown China phone(MediaTek SoC) and a HTC M8 HK edition(Qualcomm SoC). I can use them all just fine in my daily life.
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Hey XDA Community,
after 3 1/2 years i'll retire my Galaxy S3 and get a new phone. So far so easy.
But as a Android enthusiast, i can't just buy a new phone, it has to be a phone which offers a good hardware base for using custom roms. And what i learned in the last 3 1/2 years is that, for example, Samsungs Exynos processors are NOT a good hardware base and rom developers hate Exynos processors.
So here we come to the magic question: Which is, from a developer view, the best, and what are acceptable processor brands which allow developers to develop a rom (more precisely the "device tree") which can make use of all of the processors features and its performance?
I think the following two brands are well known among all custom rom users and don't need to be commented:
Exynos -> as described above, "the Antichrist"
Qualcomm Snapdragon -> as far as i know the Holy Grail for developers
But what about the "underdogs"? How developer friendly are the following processor brands which now appear more and more in (flagship) phones from Huawei, Xiaomi and many other smaller phone manufacturers:
MediaTek (currently used by some Acer phones)
Hisilicon Kirin (for example used by the Huawei Ascend Mate 7, Huawei Honor 6 ...)
Nvidia Tegra (for example used by the new Google Pixel C tablet)
Intel Atom (for example used by the Asus ZenFone 2)
I'm excited about your experience with and recommendations for these "underdogs", especially if you are a developer!
Best regards,
Mika
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If you want the most development, nexus devices will always have the best open source support. If not a nexus, stick with qualcomm . all the other socs have less open source support and therefore fewer developers willing to work on them. That doesn't mean you won't get custom ROMs (zenfone 2 is going well), but the pool of people able to do real development on it is tiny...
nVidia also releases open sourced images for it's devices...
check out
Cheers
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nVidia also releases open sourced images for it's devices...
check out
Cheers
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nvidia = binary-hell
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Intel is a no go as well since it's pretty new. As for your choice of SoC, it really depends on your needs. If you want to use a custom ROM, you're best off with Qualcomm. Otherwise most SoC will work fine for you. I own a Galaxy S6(Exynos SoC), unknown China phone(MediaTek SoC) and a HTC M8 HK edition(Qualcomm SoC). I can use them all just fine in my daily life.
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My question is only meant to find the best choice/choices for using custom roms.
You're right, if just looking for a new phone, the SoC is not the most important to look for.
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nvidia = binary-hell
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I guess this means "no fun for the devs"?
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I guess this means "no fun for the devs"?
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Depends on how you define "fun".
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.... Sony + Qualcomm is the best choice ...
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Hey @codeworkx, just one question regarding your sony recommendation.
What do you say about this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/general/loss-drm-keys-t2890936
If Sony offers you good conditions / sources / binarys and whatever to develop a custom rom, but kills or at minumum downgrades many of the phones features when unlocking the bootloader (camera quality, screen quality, sound quality ...) would you buy this devices at all?
Or is there a way arround this bootloader mess which just isn't known in the thread linked above?
Regards,
Mika
Hello everyone. I got a question about different xiaomi phones. So i am looking for new phone and at this moment the most impressive phones out there is xiaomi. Can you tell me please which one of these are the fastest with the best specifications not only on "paper" but when holding in hand as well. What i mean by that is some phones have pretty nice camera and cpu/gpu specs on paper but the camera in reality doesnt work so well and they are slow as hell after few months usage.
So i am looking into a phone under 300$:
Xiaomi mi4 (there is a lot of them, not sure which one is the best)
Xiaomi redmi note 3
Xiaomi redmi note 3 pro
If you got any other suggestion of the phones under 300$ feel free to post. Also do you know any legit sellers who sell in europe? thanks
get the Note 3 pro i.e. snapdragon variant, its the best of the lot that you have mentioned.
The difference between all those different models, if you ignore all their difference names (MI4, Redmi, Redmi Note, Redmi Note Pro, etc...) are the chipsets that are in use.
The MI4 phones run on SD80X chipsets, like SD800 (original MI4) and SD808 for the MI4S.
The Redmi series in general tries to be budget wherever possible, so most of them run on Mediatek (crap) chipsets, except for the indian / international variants of the series, as Xiaomi has been hit with a Mediatek chipset ban in india, forcing them to go with the slightly more expensive (but way better) Snapdragon mid-end chipsets.
Which brings us to the so called "Pro" variants of the Redmi series, those are essentially the indian / international market variants I've talked about.
Summed up they run on whatever the current mid-end Snapdragon chipset is, which makes the current iteration (Redmi Note 3 Pro) run on a SD650.
Performance wise, the SD820 is the king of the hill right now (MI5), directly followed by the SD650 and right behind it the SD810 and behind that the SD808.
So if you want the best bang for your buck, the Redmi Note 3 Pro is currently your best bet in raw performance and battery runtime.
For me there were 3 important things before I bought my first xiaomi phone a week ago. Sdcard slot, good specs and a low price.
Many xiaomi phones don't have a sdcard slot, so take a look on that. Redmi note 3 pro does have one.
2nd thing is the mediatek processor. I somehow don't trust them yet and since I wanted something more powerful than my old z2 I saw this nice benchmark in antutu of snapdragon 650 which convinced me.
One important thing before you buy any miui device. I recommend you to buy a pretty new one, at least one that comes with lollipop (updates may never come) and with 3gb of ram. 2gb of ram is really not much for a miui rom.
I bought my phone from xiaomiforsale, 5 days delivery (to Poland from Czech).
Sent from my Redmi Note 3 using XDA-Developers mobile app
Thank you all for your opinion, going to order an redmi note 3 pro by the end of the week
I'm looking forward to buy redmi note 3 pro has a great performance and longer battry i recommended it
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So if you want the best bang for your buck, the Redmi Note 3 Pro is currently your best bet in raw performance and battery runtime.
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+1. Just got my Redmi Note 3 delivered today and it is indeed best and full value for money
I'm planning to buy either the Redmi Note 3 or the Le2 and can't decide which is better.
I'll list the pro's and cons for each. I hop you guys can provide a sound argument for which is better. Both of these phones are priced the same at 11,999 INR. And both of them have very similar specs. Otherwise both of them have 5.5" 1080p displays, 16MP rear facing camera, all the same sensors.
LeEco Le2
1. Snapdragon 652 (4 a72 cores, 4 a53 cores)
2. USB type C port for CDLA audio (no 3.5mm headphone jack)
3. Thinner and Lighter than Redmi Note 3 (7.5mm and 154g)
4. Quick Charge 2.0
5. 3000 MaH battery.
6. No SD card support.
7. 8MP front facing camera
8. No custom ROM support (yet)
9. Fingerprint sensor detects at 0.150 secs
Redmi Note 3
1. Snapdragon 650 (2 a72 cores, 4 a53 cores)
2. 8.7mm thin and 164g
3. Quick Charge 1.0
4. 4000 MaH battery
5. SD card supported
6. 5MP front facing camera
7. Custom ROMs are avialable
8. Fingerprint sensor detects at 0.300 secs
So it seems to be a matter of wanting a thinner,lighter phone with updated specs in the case of Le2 Vs more battery and expandable storage but older specs.
I plan to flash custom roms soon, but I would like to know, if it's getting the latest specs that's better than having more usability(with extra battery life and storage capacity).
Please help. Any advice is welcome.
P.S I've owned a Moto E 1st gen, been on cm ever since it came out.
It all comes down to your opinion and preference, le2 doesn't have sd card support, usb type c headphone jack,it has good scope for custom ROMs as it has snapdragon processor but I came here to know if le2 has any active development but there is no seperate forum or thread for it yet it may be in the near future but redmi note 3 has a specific section already because it launched before le2
You can buy le2 if you feel 32 gb is enough and you will be content with it, if you are like me and will download large files like movies,songs of high definition play many games then you shold buy the redmi note 3 with 128 GB memory card support because 32gb just wouldn't be enough, I saw some place saying that redmi note 3 can even support up to 256 GB maybe don't remember where I saw it though
In performance le2 would have an upper edge but just a tad bit. But the camera lens of le2 looked ugly to me and i saw the comparison of both the phones cameras and the le2s camera was a BIG no-no for me because it captured day light pictures of flowers as if they were in low light, I was having the same doubt about which phone to buy so I researched a little bit for the camera review and found redmi note 3 to better just look it up in Google, bcoz I'm unable to post link here
Just hang around for a bit and see what goes on in xda regarding the development
The link to redmi note3 forum-
forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-3
There is development for both snapdragon and mediatek look out for available ROMs for snapdragon . And something called le2 pro with better specs than le2 is releasing soon just look it up.
And lol I am using the moto e 1st gen too on stock android and i typed all this on my phone
Both of those will be hard to get any real development as developers don't buy either of those devices.
So don't use development as any real way to determine if you are gonna get the device.
I've decided to go for the Redmi Note 3. But it doesn't seem to be in stock for now (Flash sales). Figured the Le2 wouldn't give me enough screen on time, I travel a lot, and GPS and 4g would kill that 3000Mah battery in two to three hours flat. (Lol, especially with Pokemon Go coming out and all). And I'm using the Moto e 1st gen too, cm13 . Camera doesn't have to be great. Come on... coming from moto e, you should know that, that phone didn't even have auto focus, leave alone low light performance XD. So I'm just looking for the best price to performance ratio phone for my budget.
And I was looking from more of a hardware perspective to buy a phone, rather than development. Thanks for replying on this post. :good:
Choose the more experienced one
LeTv is actually a pretty new phone developer, they have just started the phone marketing recently. Their TV is actually really nice. But Xiaomi has been doing smart phone for a few years already. Recommend you to get Redmi, because it might do better in a time base.
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I've decided to go for the Redmi Note 3. But it doesn't seem to be in stock for now (Flash sales). Figured the Le2 wouldn't give me enough screen on time, I travel a lot, and GPS and 4g would kill that 3000Mah battery in two to three hours flat. (Lol,
especially with Pokemon Go coming out and all). And I'm using the Moto e 1st gen too, cm13 . Camera doesn't have to be great. Come on... coming from moto e, you should know that, that phone didn't even have auto focus, leave alone low light performance XD. So I'm just looking for the best price to performance ratio phone for my budget.
And I was looking from more of a hardware perspective to buy a phone, rather than development. Thanks for replying on this post. :good:
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I just ordered my redmi note 3 from amazon yesterday, I feel very happy I hope you get to order one too, and the person who said there is not much development for redmi note 3 is wrong because it has a fully working cm13
Chris s5830i said:
I just ordered my redmi note 3 from amazon yesterday, I feel very happy I hope you get to order one too, and the person who said there is not much development for redmi note 3 is wrong because it has a fully working cm13
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I ordered it a couple of days back, only snapdeal could deliver to my address. Should be here before 18th. This would be the first time I would be trying anything other than stock android (other than HTC sense from cupcake xD)
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I ordered it a couple of days back, only snapdeal could deliver to my address. Should be here before 18th. This would be the first time I would be trying anything other than stock android (other than HTC sense from cupcake xD)
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Don't forget to video record when your opening the package incase of fraud you can have it as proof, and if taken as cash on delivery call the courier person in and make somebody give him a glass of water while you open the package and then give him the cash, you have to be careful shopping online from flipkart and amazon, and extra careful shopping on snapdeal.And I like stock Android my moto e is almost stock android, but miui is much better and with the 3 GB ram its going to be super smooth.BTW my phone is arriving on Wednesday,can't wait XD
I already paid with credit card. Thing is, the courier is India post. But fortunately the post office is nearby and I know the delivery guy. So hopefully there shouldn't be any problem.
And thanks foe the video recording suggestion. I'll do that just in case.
But another problem has come up. Apparently it's difficult to unlock the bootloader for xiaomi devices now.
ok im going to buy a zenfone 4 with snap 660 due to higher performance and i want to know if the tpwr works on both sn 630 and 660 and also oreo 8.0
also any help to flash los 15 on this with project treble
and tpwr and root
any guide detailed would be appreciate
Asus has a bad off spec implementation of project treble. Don't buy this phone. It's not worth the greef that it is due to the fact it has no roms and no community support.
hope anyone build a lineage os... this is one best buy:
high quality stereo speakers, OIS and EIS cameras, good battery,best powerful mid range snapdragon 660 , 6gb ram lpddr4x, fast charge, very bright ips lcd 600 nits ( no BURN IN), 4k videos, 64gb and .... the headphone jack!!!!!
found on ebay only at 260$ new
Phone Spec and performance is good. I never seen worst support from Asus team . Too low support custom rom build this phone. Double think before going to buy.
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Phone Spec and performance is good. I never seen worst support from Asus team . Too low support custom rom build this phone. Double think before going to buy.
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probably i think to buy le eco le pro 3 6/64gb
better processor,gpu,stereo speakers,better battery
camera is the same of op 3t and very good, fastcharge 3.0, lineage os support and overall a good choice
Asus have plan enable to Create vendor partition on porting ZE554KL to installed GSI image. But timeline wont committed from development team.
Hope this will positive move from asus. Hope on will get soon with Oreo 8.1 update
Check : https://www.asus.com/zentalk/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=213446&page=1#pid880625
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prakashwaran said:
Asus have plan enable to Create vendor partition on porting ZE554KL to installed GSI image. But timeline wont committed from development team.
Hope this will positive move from asus. Hope on will get soon with Oreo 8.1 update
Check : URL
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Do uoy have any news? Link is not avaliable for me