https://www.androidauthority.com/huawei-loses-access-to-google-android-987873/
Reading the latest news, I can't decide whether laughing or crying....
It's concerning for us who just upgraded to the P30 Pro. I'm wondering if it's a bill pay upgrade would I be able to change my mind and go to the S10 plus now.
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It's concerning for us who just upgraded to the P30 Pro. I'm wondering if it's a bill pay upgrade would I be able to change my mind and go to the S10 plus now.
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The world isn't work like this. Nobody enforced you to buy any Huawei devices.
If you want to make a complaint, then write to Google or to Donald Trump.
Have we sell the p30 pro?
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The world isn't work like this. Nobody enforced you to buy any Huawei devices.
If you want to make a complaint, then write to Google or to Donald Trump.
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The world does work like this ,it's consumer protection. Nobody forces you to buy a contract / bill item but by law you have cooling off periods and protection when the item isn't as described. We could argue that the item is no longer as described due to losing access to official Android updates and applications
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Worst thing is, if we opt to sell, no one will buy it due to these restrictions. I shave 3 years on this contract... Talk about D's
Huawei unlocks its devices, we install play store services and carry on
So what…. Trump is working on the next big Economic Crisis for the US... Huawei will found a Solution and have his own Appstore
Greetings Raffi
I am concerned about the updates
Finally my p30 pro feels so snappy with 153 that made me excited about Android q and Updates then this comes along
And is it going to effect the other Chinese manufacturers like OnePlus oppo xiaomi or not, these are the only ones left to provide us with the latest best tech without the redeculas 1000$+ that's becoming normal even for LG
Stupid
I am worried about this too, it also makes me think that if this news changes soon something like this could happen in the future because of the issues regarding huawei and America and also the UK where i am stopping Huawei from creating the 5G networks.
I happened to request a return for my P30 Pro within the 14 days period, i got sent the bag to send it back in, and says i have 30 days from when i made that request, i am within them 30 days still, so not i am really wondering if i should just send this phone back and get an S10?
Apparently this happened to ZTE before however they were reinstated again and approved. So time will tells
I think I have made my mind up, I have always been with Samsung, i was really loving OneUI on my s8+ before i got the p30 pro, i only got it as i thought i'd give it a go assuming it can't be that different, i have posted many bugs and annoyances here since getting the p30 pro, some of which i have fixed, some i can't, the EMUI software is really bad and doesn't seem well developed at all.
I think i will get an s10+
I don't care. I believe that Huawei most likely have the capacity to do their own firmware now. They'll do their own firmware and run their own app store. They're big enough now that they'll be able to make it work. Will be nice to have an alternative third ecosystem in the phone world.
I guess it's good bye now to any future security patches. Don't think Huawei's own OS would a viable alternative either. It's new and it will definitely have a lot of issues with third party apps compatibility for example, syncing to wear os devices.
Anyways, it was stated that current phones are not effected by this so i guess the main issue for us now would be upcoming security patches and firmware update.
Reckon the best option would be to sell it off.
Don worry guys...
https://www.businessinsider.in/Chin...d-Microsoft-products/articleshow/68433984.cms
sam razzy said:
Don worry guys...
https://www.businessinsider.in/Chin...d-Microsoft-products/articleshow/68433984.cms
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It will be like giving your phone admin access to china
Isn't android open source? The AOSP code for any future android OS will always be available. Huawei can always use androids open code into their devices for future security patches.
Google and 5 eyes are already spying on you. How come you don't care about that?
Huwaei phone will not recieve any android specifc code from Google , no more secutity updates , no more Google Play, no more APIs ,,,
Everthing is just blocked by US /Google now ,,
Huwaei journey in androd ends here as they will only have Aosp access which is plain deadland now days as most of the apis have migrated to Google play services
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https://www.androidauthority.com/huawei-loses-access-to-google-android-987873/
Reading the latest news, I can't decide whether laughing or crying....
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I was all set to buy the p30pr0 but now...
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Huawei will no longer offer unlockable bootloaders on their devices after May 2018.
They'll end support for unlocked devices sold prior to May 2018 in 60 days.
Here's the article.
Anyone else up to speed on this?
Az Biker said:
Huawei will no longer offer unlockable bootloaders on their devices after May 2018.
They'll end support for unlocked devices sold prior to May 2018 in 60 days.
Here's the article.
Anyone else up to speed on this?
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I just saw that last night. I think it stinks. We have 3 honor phones in our family. The older phones get 60 more days of unlock possibility. Guess I will request unlock codes for them while I still can.
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the cynic in me is convinced that Huawei is bowing to Chinese government pressure.
to keep tighter control over Chinese citizens, and to prevent them from getting around the GFW.
sh!t move, they deserve to lose support and good will from the community.
thanks for the post, now i have to request a code for a Mate 9.
Is this in any way relevant if you only have the Nexus6P from Huawei (and no other Huawei propducts)?
I thought all nexus models are unlockable by using fastboot or am I wrong about that?
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Is this in any way relevant if you only have the Nexus6P from Huawei (and no other Huawei propducts)?
I thought all nexus models are unlockable by using fastboot or am I wrong about that?
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It has nothing to do with Nexus6P. Only the Honor and Huawei branded phones.
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It has nothing to do with Nexus6P. Only the Honor and Huawei branded phones.
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Pardon me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the back of our phone scream HUAWEI right down by the charger port, thus making it a Huawei branded phone?
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Pardon me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the back of our phone scream HUAWEI right down by the charger port, thus making it a Huawei branded phone?
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That's not what he meant only that newer Huawei phones will be made this way.
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That's not what he meant only that newer Huawei phones will be made this way.
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Lol, I was going to say, I don't expect us to get anymore OTA's that would be able to relock our bootloaders.
The 6p hardware is made by huwai but the branding is Google. And Google handles the software updates and I dont think Google would ever lock the bootloader on a Nexus or pixel phone
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Pardon me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the back of our phone scream HUAWEI right down by the charger port, thus making it a Huawei branded phone?
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It may scream Huawei. Even it Google bought the hardware from Huawei, it's Google's software that is running the phone. Essentially it is Google's phone that they sold to the public. Locking the bootloader is a decision that Huawei made to do with it's branded phones (Honor and Huawei phones). From Huawei, "In order to deliver the best user experience and prevent users from experiencing possible issues that could arise from ROM flashing, including system failure, stuttering, worsened battery performance, and risk of data being compromised, Huawei will cease providing bootloader unlock codes for devices launched after May 25, 2018." It added, "For devices launched prior to the aforementioned date, the termination of the bootloader code application service will come into effect 60 days after today's announcement. Moving forward, Huawei remains committed to providing quality services and experiences to its customers. Thank you for your continued support."
Again, this only impacts the Huawei and Honor phones. Not phones that other companies may have purchased from Huawei and rebranded as their own. Also, just to point out it does impact all Huawei and Honor branded phones. It's just that the "older" phones are given an additional 60 days.
Chinese GOVT has 2 much power & influence...
Nese govt is a ? anyway, never had a phone that was Chinese owned. I was worried even w/ ? bootloader, the nese govt has implanted Spyware or worse inside the firmware, a hidden partition, & or even the actual silicon! No thanks.. Suspicious w/ trade war heating ?. Probably have enough sold 2 cause chaos... I think I've heard I heard it all....
Honor's recent decision to end bootloader unlocks for their phones upset the entire community, us included, and we've been working feverishly to get them to change the decision. That said, it takes time for complaints to climb the ladder of such a big company, and we've had to settle for baby steps. :fingers-crossed:
We asked Honor for the reason behind this action and this is what they said:
"\The unlock code application service was closed on May 24th for all Huawei/ Honor products as a security measure and to avoid issues caused by ROM flashing. The decision to close the page ensured Huawei/ Honor could continue to provide an excellent user experience for all global fans.
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XDA Developers are actively engaged in software development and they constantly provide valuable suggestions to optimize Honor products. Based on their feedback, that unlocked bootloaders make it easier for them to develop and create, Honor has decided to re-open bootloader unlock on an exclusive number of codes to the XDA Developer community. :highfive:
The unlock codes are available for download exclusively to XDA Developers on a first-come-first-served basis via this online form....Update: thank you to all that applied for an unlock code. We are no longer taking requests. Unlock codes will be sent out in batches, starting the week of 25 September and continuing until the end of the year. Further instructions will go out via XDA PM asap. . XDA users can apply for the codes using the form and all applicants will have the opportunity to share their feedback. It might take several weeks to receive an unlock code after requesting one, but we'll work with Honor to expedite the process as much as possible.
XDA will continue to work with Honor to give users a strong voice when decisions are made that affect their user experience. Finally, they had this to say:
Honor phones and systems have gone through rigorous testing and improvements, which is why Honor is able to offer great products at good prices for global digital natives.
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svetius said:
Honor's recent decision to end bootloader unlocks for their phones upset the entire community, us included, and we've been working feverishly to get them to change the decision. That said, it takes time for complaints to climb the ladder of such a big company, and we've had to settle for baby steps. :fingers-crossed:
We asked Honor for the reason behind this action and this is what they said:
XDA Developers are actively engaged in software development and they constantly provide valuable suggestions to optimize Honor products. Based on their feedback, that unlocked bootloaders make it easier for them to develop and create, Honor has decided to re-open bootloader unlock on an exclusive number of codes to the XDA Developer community. :highfive:
The unlock codes are available for download exclusively to XDA Developers on a first-come-first-served basis via this online form. XDA users can apply for the codes using the form and all applicants will have the opportunity to share their feedback. It might take several weeks to receive an unlock code after requesting one, but we'll work with Honor to expedite the process as much as possible.
XDA will continue to work with Honor to give users a strong voice when decisions are made that affect their user experience. Finally, they had this to say:
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Only for Honor devices?
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Yes.
This is great! +1xp to Honor!
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Well I am a Huawei owner and I already have my code. But I would like to still thank XDA for pushing this, and actually doing something.
Really hoping Huawei will come up with a solution.
To be fair, I kinda understand them. As it is right now, the OS on the phone is way too fragile, and you can end in a permanent brick way too easy.
But that is something they should fix on their end and not punish users for wanting to have control over these great devices.
Like, I love my Mate 10 Pro. It's one of the best on the market I believe. And hell, I am ready to purchase a Mate 20 (Pro?) if it comes out. But only, if we get custom OS support. Don't get me wrong, I actually like EMUI, and I totally don't get the complaints about EMUI. Trust me. If you complain about it, go and try Touchwiz. You will know hell. However, at some point, Huawei will stop providing updates or will focus on later models. At that point, I would still like to stay 'fresh' and have a lean OS. I had an S3 LTE, a Note 2, Note 4, LG G4, LG G Pro 2, and Cyanogen/Lineage and the others have given these devices new life.
Ps.: tl;dr: If we get custom roms, I keep buying them, my family will buy them, my friends will buy. If not, well, we all go to other brands.
This isn't just spitting in the face of users right?
Hope they change the decision and permanent opening bootloader again.
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Well I am a Huawei owner and I already have my code. But I would like to still thank XDA for pushing this, and actually doing something.
Really hoping Huawei will come up with a solution.
To be fair, I kinda understand them. As it is right now, the OS on the phone is way too fragile, and you can end in a permanent brick way too easy.
But that is something they should fix on their end and not punish users for wanting to have control over these great devices.
Like, I love my Mate 10 Pro. It's one of the best on the market I believe. And hell, I am ready to purchase a Mate 20 (Pro?) if it comes out. But only, if we get custom OS support. Don't get me wrong, I actually like EMUI, and I totally don't get the complaints about EMUI. Trust me. If you complain about it, go and try Touchwiz. You will know hell. However, at some point, Huawei will stop providing updates or will focus on later models. At that point, I would still like to stay 'fresh' and have a lean OS. I had an S3 LTE, a Note 2, Note 4, LG G4, LG G Pro 2, and Cyanogen/Lineage and the others have given these devices new life.
Ps.: tl;dr: If we get custom roms, I keep buying them, my family will buy them, my friends will buy. If not, well, we all go to other brands.
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Well I for one do NOT understand them. It's absolutely NONE of their business what we (who paid good money for OUR phones!) do with the devices! If we brick them or whatever breaks - it doesn't concern Huawei at all since it's not covered by any kind of warranty after we unlock the bootloader.
I bought the View 10 ONLY because of the Honor Open Source program and of course right after I got the damn thing everything shut down.
I for one will NOT support a company that treats their paying customers like dirt - this is my first and most definitely LAST Huawei/Honor device unless they do an about face, let us unlock our bootloaders and support custom roms. ?
This is great news. I'm glad that the talks with them went somewhere. Good job guys.
While I truly appreciate the effort from everyone involved in this action, this doesn't help anything. If the devices are not open for everyone, they are not open for anyone.
This is the equivalent of not escalating a situation with an angry customer and giving him what he wants, a special treatment, while all the others won't get it.
That's not fair at all.
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While I truly appreciate the effort from everyone involved in this action, this doesn't help anything. If the devices are not open for everyone, they are not open for anyone.
This is the equivalent of not escalating a situation with an angry customer and giving him what he wants, a special treatment, while all the others won't get it.
That's not fair at all.
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This is hopefully the first step to get this decision reversed at a later stage.
And regarding your analogy comparing this to an angry customer - the people who mainly are concerned by this decision are the people who would come to XDA forums anyway. This decision is more like showing special treatment to a target demographic of angry customers than a single angry customer.
what about Kernel Source codes etc for more recent devices like honor play? are they planing on releasing any?
I'm glad to see a little wiggle room on this. But as Huawei arguably has one of the top devices on market (or so I keep hearing about the P20 Pro) it also starts to make sense.
Here's hoping a good balance can be found.
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Well I for one do NOT understand them. It's absolutely NONE of their business what we (who paid good money for OUR phones!) do with the devices! If we brick them or whatever breaks - it doesn't concern Huawei at all since it's not covered by any kind of warranty after we unlock the bootloader.
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Except you don't, in the EU at least, inspite of Honour / Huawei claims software modification, including unlocking bootloader doesn't invalidate your hardware warranty.
Good to see. Well done to XDA for sticking to their guns and getting Honor to soften their stance.
Hopefully if just the start and it can become a permanent policy and the Huawei side of the business to do the same. (which I heavily doubt they will
) My P20 Pro would be a perfect phone if I could get from EMUI to stock
Hello, XDA
I am a developer, can I get this benefit to unlock the bootloader of my device Honor?
They must have seen aggresive concurrent Xiaomi taking some market share
what about lock code on Honor V10? some people write about not working old codes on ROM FW>=163 version. Via this service, Huawei sent new code for new room or include downgrading to old room warning with code?
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Except you don't, in the EU at least, inspite of Honour / Huawei claims software modification, including unlocking bootloader doesn't invalidate your hardware warranty.
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While that IS true you'll have a hard time getting any repairs done once you unlocked it - and besides, my hardware doesn't break due to me f*cking up by unlocking and flashing custom roms etc. If someone flashes a bad kernel and blows their chip due to overclocking or what have you the repair centers can still tell and refuse a warranty repair.
Either way you look at it - letting us unlock our devices does NOT cost them anything, but it will keep us buying their phones.
An executive order has been signed by Trump banning Huawei in the US...
Also Qualcomm (QCOM) may have to apply for US export licenses to continue supplying technology to Huawei.
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/05/15/tech/trump-executive-order-telecom-security/index.html
Why worry about Huawei when Google, facebook and the countries intelligence are already spying.
I think the problem lies with 5G, Huawei are trying the set up the infrastructure for 5G across Asia, Europe and the US amongst over areas. Which means that they'll have a back door to almost everything connected to 5G.
5G will connect to everything, even LED lights in your home which basically gives them a 3D view of every area 5G covers. Whoever has access to it will know where you are nearly all the time.
The timing makes it obvious the steps against Huawei is derivative of the US trade war with China rather than concerns over spying.
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The timing makes it obvious the steps against Huawei is derivative of the US trade war with China rather than concerns over spying.
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I wonder if it makes sense to care about that. Huawei prices are dropping and people try to sell there used phones. A good moment to buy something like that.
Am I totally wrong in thinking that Trump will probably not stop xda developers from developing updates for Huawei phones? If so I do not care about Huaweis updates or wether they include Gapps
But sadly XDA is not able to develop updates for Huawei beacause of locked bootloader etc, so what you are trying to say is......?
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But sadly XDA is not able to develop updates for Huawei beacause of locked bootloader etc, so what you are trying to say is......?
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I do not own a huawei phone (yet) and am still investigating about existing roms. Is there really no easy way to unlock bootloader for huawei devices in general? That would definitely stop me from buying huawei.
BTW: of you quote me I see your post faster
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I do not own a huawei phone (yet) and am still investigating about existing roms. Is there really no easy way to unlock bootloader for huawei devices in general? That would definitely stop me from buying huawei.
BTW: of you quote me I see your post faster
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No there is no easy way, even no way at all at the moment.
I am quite relaxed at the moment, for existing phones there will still be support, future phones could be a HUGE problem. But to be honest, A LOT switch their phones after 2 years or even before, so most people will not be touched by this ban who are currently owning this awesome phone.
I don't think Huawei spies. Even if they did, are they the only big players who do it?
US already spies on their citizens and on the world - Edward Snowden told the world and now he's not allowed back into his country. Facebook also sells your data if you remember that Cambridge Analytica drama.
Do people just forget what's happened?
Agree, i am total sure that Apple has a file with my data and i didn´t even touched an apple device in my life
that doesn´t make spying good, but i also think huawei is not doing more/less than the rest
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No there is no easy way, even no way at all at the moment.
I am quite relaxed at the moment, for existing phones there will still be support, future phones could be a HUGE problem. But to be honest, A LOT switch their phones after 2 years or even before, so most people will not be touched by this ban who are currently owning this awesome phone.
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this is not my attitude towards phones. Mine is rather: use the device until warranty is over (or a bit earlier) then root and install a custom rom and use the phone until it is really dead. Unfortunately it seems like that did not take too long on my Asus Zenfone selfie ...
I also use phones quite long, but really a lot people get a new one every year or every two years by contract. The same people which are now selling their phones because of panic^^
if you plan on using custom rom/modification huawei is not suitable for you, it is just not possible. maybe the android ban will change something, but nobody can say that, you will have to wait to see what will happen.
Since no one else has said it on this thread let me be the first, Trump is an idiot, when he's gone the whole world will be better for it. He can't even honor D-day survivors without making it all about him, the ultimate draft dodger.
Hey Mate 20 Pro owners - just trying to understand what the Mate 20 Pro owners are planning on at the moment in the wake of Google/android services ban etc.,
I am also a proud owner of Mate 20 Pro for the last six months and I absolutely love this device.
Are you guys trying to selling it off before the value drops too low?
Or, hoping the situation will reverse and fix itself?
I am hoping it will all be okay in the next two months? What do you guys advise?
I'm sticking with it as this Google business isn't a major problem for me
Same here, i'll stay with my mate 20 pro.
i really think it's a great phone, so i see no reason to sell it.
About the problems with Google, we still have 3 months before the ban really starts, so i think it's just a pressure method from Trump to get the trade deal with China.
And even if it's not and they still ban it i will stay with Huawei, i have to say i'm really curious about Hongmeng OS that they'll launch in fall.
I only consider price and value before and at the time of buying. Once I make a decision, the price is no longer a factor for me. I only bought the phone recently because my previous phone was no longer usable. As long as my current gapps remain usable on this phone, I don't necessarily care about future updates that much. I buy a phone based on it's performance at the time of purchase. When I was buying this phone, I wanted a flagship phone for a non-flagship price, I refuse to spend a $1000 for a phone. After considering many, it came down to this phone because it was a flagship phone that had a non-flagship price.
It's bad when a phone loses it's upgrade path, it's always better to have a phone from a brand that's not in the news for all the wrong reasons. However, all the good reasons I bought this phone for to begin with still stand. I'm in the USA, I buy my phones outright and just put them on my basic plan without subsidy because it saves me money in the long run. I wanted a good phone, I got a good phone. I take care of it, I got a case that protects it's front and back, it should last long enough to justify it's investment. With each transaction, be it a car, a house or a phone, you lose money (especially with sales tax) so the solution is to buy smart and minimize the number of transactions as much as possible. I would love to unlock the bootloader and root it, I would love it if Huawei bans are reversed but even if not, what I have is still a great phone to keep for the foreseeable future.
From now on, I'll keep it. It doesn't a matter if we can't upgrade to Android Q. But I must keep using Android Suite, because I'm using it for work. And I'm also using Android Auto.
Don't worry, if you need gaps you have various ways to install them. Besides, I can't wait to see what will that new OS will be!
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Don't worry, if you need gaps you have various ways to install them. Besides, I can't wait to see what will that new OS will be!
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can you please elaborate? I'm also curious if there's alternative non offical way to keep the os and apps as is in a functional way.
Existing Huawei devices will keep access to gapps, even after if and when the ban is permanently enforced. If there is no positive solution for Huawei, their future phones will not be able to access gapps. Sideloading gapps to future devices after the ban is official just won't work without changing the device ID, google servers (play store, gmail, gmaps, etc, etc) will deny access to future identified Huawei phones. For example, Mate 30 Pro will likely launch in November, the current 90 day extension expires in August. If the ban is still in place (I doubt it) at the time the Mate 30 Pro launches, then it will be denied access to gaaps, if it's identified as a Huawei device that was launched after the ban became official.
Personally I think it's just politics and leveraging for a position in the trade war negotiations. Huawei's growth is a concern to others, they surpassed others in the 5G infrastructure tech and the USA and it's allies don't want the traffic to go through tech they don't have control over. The reason they are leaving Xiaomi or 1+ alone is they don't make the infrastructure behind 5G. I think it's not about China spying through Huawei, rather about them not being able to spy through Huawei equipment.
I'm definitely keeping mine for another year, the resell value is so minuscule now that it's not worth upgrading after just a year. This is still a great device and on par with all the newest flagships.
I don't care if EMUI 10/Android Q eventually arrives without any Google services, I'll simply use Gmail through the native EMUI email app and download my apps through Aurora store. Aurora allows you to login with your Google account even without Play services and download paid apps you've purchased. For YouTube I'll use Vanced, it has no ads and no need for Google services.
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can you please elaborate? I'm also curious if there's alternative non offical way to keep the os and apps as is in a functional way.
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Someone has already mentioned that the ban does not apply to existing phones. The xda forum has instructions on how to install gaps. after all, Huawei announced that the existing phones will send security patches
I just googled this thread. But if you ever instaled custom ROM you know what I mean.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-20-pro/help/google-play-store-chinese-variant-t3861639
When the ban hits and I'm focked by Trump I'll buy a bootloader unlock code and install LineageOS. Hopefully by then the camera functions are supported sufficiently to use the camera properly as that's what made me upgrade from the Mate 9, to 10 pro to 20 pro...
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When the ban hits and I'm focked by Trump I'll buy a bootloader unlock code and install LineageOS. Hopefully by then the camera functions are supported sufficiently to use the camera properly as that's what made me upgrade from the Mate 9, to 10 pro to 20 pro...
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You can do that right now, but I will wait for that new huawei OS and see what will Huawei bring to us
Jovan.Sulic said:
Someone has already mentioned that the ban does not apply to existing phones. The xda forum has instructions on how to install gaps. after all, Huawei announced that the existing phones will send security patches
I just googled this thread. But if you ever instaled custom ROM you know what I mean.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-20-pro/help/google-play-store-chinese-variant-t3861639
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The ban does apply to existing phones. They will be able to continue using existing software but there will be no more updates.
Installing custom ROMs is impossible on international phones since the bootloader is locked.
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The ban does apply to existing phones. They will be able to continue using existing software but there will be no more updates.
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Yes and no. My understanding is that current Huawei phones will get official Google security updates, but no OS updates.
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Yes and no. My understanding is that current Huawei phones will get official Google security updates, but no OS updates.
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No. Existing phones can continue to use Google play protect and the play store but Huawei cannot release any updates including security updates after August.
Huawei will obviously focus their attention on the new os which will replace android so chances on getting much support on our phones is quite low. Which is why the resale value of the phone has collapsed.
https://www.techradar.com/news/huaweis-os-to-be-rolled-out-next-month
Interesting stuff
Lets not forget people have bought the Chinese models which aren't official Android (not supported) and had no issues, the media are just blowing the whole thing up
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Huawei cannot release any updates including security updates after August.
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Not what I've been reading or seen on Youtube, security updates will continue and they could release unsupported updates of the OS like in China
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When the ban hits and I'm focked by Trump I'll buy a bootloader unlock code and install LineageOS. Hopefully by then the camera functions are supported sufficiently to use the camera properly as that's what made me upgrade from the Mate 9, to 10 pro to 20 pro...
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I doubt the camera app will take full advantage of it
They cannot release unsupported updates of android because Google play services would stop working which would make it unusable.
darkoroje said:
They cannot release unsupported updates of android because Google play services would stop working which would make it unusable.
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So how do the Chinese version do it, don't they just install Google Services separately, even if that didn't work nothing stopping them using the Hisuit to do it
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So how do the Chinese version do it, don't they just install Google Services separately, even if that didn't work nothing stopping them using the Hisuit to do it
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Chinese versions do not have access to Google services as far as I know. Google services are banned by law in China.
Hi guys,
So i just read today that starting from now on, the authorisation of using the "Android Licence"for Huawei is definitely over after an extended period of time granted by the U.S Government.
Which means, that starting from today, we will not get any Google updates like security or even the play store itself, and will be probably forced to update manually lot of update like it's already the case for the P40/Mate 30 series....
They say in the article that for Android 11, Huawei is gonna need to use their HMS Service instad of the GMS for all their smartphones, even the already released ones like the P30 Series....
So what do you think about it ? Is it worthing keeping this phone as it's price value is gonna decrease very quickly from now on i think...
It's a shame for this amazing phone to end up like this
Source : https://www.frandroid.com/marques/h...jour-android-la-licence-temporaire-est-tombee (the article is in French, but you can use Google Translate if needed)
Sorry but this is wrong.
There will be Android Updates like before and there will be updates for the PlayStore and all of the apps.
The only thing that is no longer possible, till the elections in the US and the get rid of Trump, is that Huawei will not get the latest Android Versions for new devices. So Android 11 in the final Version is not gonna hit our Device as early as we are used to.
Android btw is Open Source so the Updates and security updates can't be held away from any device. They only will be later on the Phone as Huawei doesn't get developer Versions.
And as the Huawei P30 Pro is already certified it can't be withdrawn from thwe certification on the Google Play Store.
Thats what I have read for over a year now.
i'm french and i know frandroid
i think we should find other sources for such a complicated subject, they might be wrong
I just posted my concerns as its us, customers, who are the most affected by this numeric war between US Government and China.
I just hope the future U.S elections will change the situation if another president than Trump is elected and decide to come back as thing was before.... but i'm not sure that its gonna be that simple.
https://www.androidpolice.com/2020/...cense-to-trade-with-us-companies-has-expired/
quote: "Google confirmed to The Washington Post that without the temporary license, the company can't "provide security updates and updates to Google’s apps and services on existing devices.""
Check out bellow article too
Huawei’s temporary general license has expired
And an update to previous shared article:
USA further tightens restrictions on Huawei, will not extend the temporary general license
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I just don't care that much about device price, but about device functionality.... probably huawei could bring a further 11 update, but we will definitely lose all google related software! Just like latest devices, not big deal for some users and not very nice for others like me for example!?
paco8784 said:
I just don't care that much about device price, but about device functionality.... probably huawei could bring a further 11 update, but we will definitely lose all google related software! Just like latest devices, not big deal for some users and not very nice for others like me for example!
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Don't worry, there are workarounds to get GMS working on device, no problem.
As soon as we'll lose our GMS i will create a guide thread for P30 Pro users about how to get Google apps & also Google Certification. Untill then, use the phone as is and most important, DON'T SELL IT. IT's still one of the best devices on the market. I bought myself an Oppo device last week and gave my P30 Pro to my kid, but i'm allready missing battery life :silly:.
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What about unlock the bootloader ? any news from Huawei ? could be a workaround ...
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What about unlock the bootloader ? any news from Huawei ? could be a workaround ...
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Neah, no sign of it. They will not get that unlock bootloader option back to soon for allready released devices, maybe for the next line-up phones, the ones that will come with MediaTek processors onboard they will give us the unlocking bootloader option.
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So, to be more precise, P30 pro will no longer have any security updates. But Playstore and apps will works without issues anyway, and it is possible to update them, this is it?
hougga said:
So, to be more precise, P30 pro will no longer have any security updates. But Playstore and apps will works without issues anyway, and it is possible to update them, this is it?
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What happened to Mate 30 Pro / P40 Pro will happen to P30 / P30 Pro and all Huawei devices before those that came with GMS preinstalled. Read bellow for more info. We can sideload Google apps, but the device might not get Google Certification (or it could work if we use the P40 Pro users guide for how to from their forum).
https://support.google.com/android/thread/29434011?hl=en
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or maybe get other store like Aptoide ... I was planing to be with this phone till 5g get more mature here in my country!
P30Pro came with the Google Service and certified pre-installed so this cannot be withdrawn!
So nothing will happen to the device now!
Nad as Android has an Open Source arm with AOSP security updates will still come to the device too.
The only thing that could be is, that we don't get Android 11 or more likely to become it later than we are used to.
Don't know where other confirmed information will come from. Didn't read anything different till now that is really secured.
That is what by the way is mentioned from google Employee in the thread on the link from Silviu. Don't know why you write something completely different @SilviuO ??
ericDraven77 said:
P30Pro came with the Google Service and certified pre-installed so this cannot be withdrawn!
So nothing will happen to the device now!
Nad as Android has an Open Source arm with AOSP security updates will still come to the device too.
The only thing that could be is, that we don't get Android 11 or more likely to become it later than we are used to.
Don't know where other confirmed information will come from. Didn't read anything different till now that is really secured.
That is what by the way is mentioned from google Employee in the thread on the link from Silviu.
Don't know why you write something completely different @SilviuO ??
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Chech my #6 post! And also ALL my posts from this thread!
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And what shopuld I read there?
Speculations or in other words... nothing really mean will happen
UPDATE regardless Android & GMS updates - 19.08.2020
Huawei confirms its existing phones will still get Android and GMS updates!!!
Link 2&Link 3
Now all we need to do is wait for confirmation from Google as well :highfive:
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