Honor 20 Series - What We Know from the Launch Event - Honor 20 Guides, News, & Discussion

The HONOR 20 series of smartphones has officially been launched at an event in London. HONOR 20 Pro, HONOR 20, HONOR 20Lite
Behind The Scenes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S78v9zQxH1g
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The HONOR 20 Pro was the first smartphone to be launched at the event. The Honor 20 Pro is a new flagship smartphone with a hole-punch display.
There's a 48-megapixel primary sensor with f/1.4 aperture, 16-megapixel ultra-wide angle sensor with an f/2.2 aperture, and an 8-megapixel telephoto lens with an f/2.4 aperture. The telephoto lens has 3x optical zoom. The final camera is a 2-megapixel macro camera with an f/2.4 aperture which supports 4cm macro photography. It has a 32-megapixel selfie shooter at the front.
Know more about HONOR 20 Series
https://www.hihonor.com/global/products/smartphone/honor20pro/
HONOR 20 specifications
HONOR 20 has been launched in two colours -- Midnight Black and Icelandic White. HONOR 20 is powered by the Kirin 980 SoC, has 6GB RAM and 128GB storage. HONOR 20 has a quadruple rear camera setup, with a 48-megapixel primary sensor, 16-megapixel ultrawide camera, a 2-megapixel depth assist camera, and a 2-megapixel macro camera. It has a 32-megapixel selfie camera.
The HONOR 20 has a 6.26-inch display with a pixel density of 412 pixels per inch. The battery capacity of the HONOR 20 is 3,750mAh. It has a 22.5W charger in the box. The device weighs around 174g.
HONOR 20 Lite specifications
HONOR 20 Lite features the Kirin 710 SoC, 4GB RAM, 128GB Storage, and is powered by EMUI 9.0 based on Android 9 Pie. The smartphone has a 6.21-inch FHD+ display with a pixel density of 415 pixels per inch. It has a 32-megapixel front camera. There's a triple rear camera setup on this phone with 24-megapixel primary sensor, 8-megapixel secondary sensor, and a 2-megapixel sensor.

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Honor View10 is available for purchase in US

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Yes we believe a smartphone can't be a flagship without AI, but a flagship can be within $499.
You read it right!
Price: $499
Specs
CPU: Kirin 970
Battery: 3750mAh
RAM/Storage: 6gb+128gb (expandable 256gb)
Display: 5.99" 1080 x 2160
Primary camera: 16 MP (f/1.8) rgb + 20 MP mono
Front camera: 13 MP (f/2.0)
Android 8.1
EMUI 8.0
Purchase link: https://store.hihonor.com/us/honor-view-10
Wow. Are you gonna update this device? German device I haven't gotten an update for 3 months still stuck at 8.0.0.120a
[email protected]_USA said:
Yes we believe a smartphone can't be a flagship without AI, but a flagship can be within $499.
You read it right!
Price: $499
Special offer if you follow instructions in the link at the bottom.
You can pre-order the Honor View10 for $469, a $30 discount! :good:
Specs
CPU: Kirin 970
Battery: 3750mAh
RAM/Storage: 6gb+128gb (expandable 256gb)
Display: 5.99" 1080 x 2160
Primary camera: 16 MP (f/1.8) rgb + 20 MP mono
Front camera: 13 MP (f/2.0)
Android 8.1
EMUI 8.0
Pre-Order link here: https://goo.gl/G8pVmc
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Can you confirm that the bands listed for the US version are correct? Why the removal of 1 and 3? These are pretty much a must for international travel. Even the Honor 8 had them.
Looks like I'm going to have to pass. No Band 66 or Band 71 and missing a few international bands for traveling.
Can Honor state if this device supports TMobile WiFi Calling? Every other Honor device doesn't.
Too little, too late.
I opted for the Galaxy S9+. Yeah, I paid about $350 more for it but I also got a VR headset (which I'll probably never use), a very nice wireless quick charger, and a pair of Samsung IconX wireless Bluetooth earbuds. A little over $400 in extra stuff.
I could easily sell that stuff and would have gotten the S9+ for less than $500 after all was said and done.
When do we get android 8.1 update in other countries?
When do we get view10 stocks back in India. It is out of stock from last few weeks.

Honor 20 (or Honor 20 Pro) case render leak, 3 or 4 Cameras?

Source from GSMArena https://www.gsmarena.com/exclusive_honor_20_or_honor_20_pro_case_render_leak_shows_space_for_multiple_rear_cameras-news-36467.php
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First off, it looks like this handset will have a bunch of rear cameras, as the cutout for those is quite big. The design of the cutout itself makes us think of the Huawei P30 Pro's camera arrangement, with the LED flash placed to the right of the main camera array, although in this case it's on the lower side, not the upper.
We'd venture a guess and say this Honor device will come with at least three cams on the back, unless it completely apes the P30 Pro and adds a TOF 3D camera under (or above) the LED flash as well. Given that all of this implies it will be a high-end offering, it's likely to be the Honor 20 Pro, because so far we haven't seen any leaked renders of that handset itself - whereas the non-Pro Honor 20, if we go by past leaks, will have a different rear camera arrangement. Then again, if those previous rumors were wrong, we might in fact be looking at a case for the Honor 20. Only time (and more leaks) will tell for sure.
The Honor 20 Pro is expected to sport Sony's IMX600 sensor, which apparently has 48MP resolution just like the IMX586 that we've already seen in a few phones. The Honor 20 Pro has also been rumored to have a 6.1" OLED screen with an under-display fingerprint scanner, the Kirin 980 chipset, and three RAM/storage configurations - 6/128 GB, 8/128 GB, and 8/256 GB. Pricing in China should start around $450, which will probably translate into €500-550 in Europe, and the Honor 20 Pro could get official as soon as April 25.
Exciting for this device! I like the camera layout and couldn't accept the way of Huawei Mate 20.
Does anybody have other info about Honor 20? Leave message here

Honor 9X and Honor 9X Pro announced with Kirin 810 and pop-up camera

Earlier this month, Honor began teasing a new launch in their X series, with several leaks confirming key features of the devices. Today, they unveiled the Honor 9X and Honor 9X Pro as the latest offering in their “premium mid-range” category. These devices don’t pack the same punch as Honor’s high-end phones, but they still offer a compelling package for a much more affordable price tag.
See full device specs here​
The design of the two phones is incredibly similar. If not for a few minor differences, you may not be able to tell them apart. They both feature colorful models with an X-shaped gradient effect, very slim bezels, pop-up cameras, vertical camera arrangements, buttons in the same location, and plain “HONOR” branding on the back. It’s an attractive design that is, admittedly, becoming a bit stale.
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The main external feature that differentiates the Honor 9X from the 9X Pro is the camera arrangement. The Honor 9X Pro has three cameras in a stack with the flash underneath. The Honor 9X has the same vertical arrangement, but the third camera spot is occupied by the flash, since the standard variant only has two cameras.
The Honor 9X and 9X Pro will be available in a variety of color options. As mentioned, this is a really nice looking design, but we’ve seen it a lot. Slim bezels with eye-catching gradient colors is not as unique as it used to be. The X-shaped pattern will appeal to users who want a flashy back similar to what we saw on the Honor View 20, while the black color variant will provide a more reserved and flat look.
Moving past the design, the Honor 9X Pro is the “Pro” model largely because of the extra camera. The 9X has a 48MP main sensor and a 2MP secondary sensor. Meanwhile, the 9X Pro has the 48MP main sensor, plus 8MP and 2MP secondary sensors.
A key features on both of these new devices is the presence of the HiSilicon Kirin 810 SoC. The Kirin 810 is a big generational leap over the Kirin 710, and it claims to bring performance that is comparable to the Qualcomm Snapdragon 730, if not better. Considering how the Snapdragon 730 is said to be Qualcomm’s third most powerful mobile processor, it puts into perspective how the Kirin 810 is placed. The Honor 9X Pro variant is also said to feature “liquid cooling”, though this is likely be a reference to a vapor chamber-based system instead of active water cooling.
Honor 9X and Honor 9X Pro – Pricing and Availability
The Honor 9X will be available in China in Phantom Red, Phantom Blue and Magic Night Black colors, for a price of CNY 1,399 (~$203) for the 4GB/64GB variant, CNY 1599 (~$232) for the 6GB/64GB variant, and CNY 1899 (~$276) for the 6GB/128GB variant. The phone is on pre-order and will be available from July 30, 2019.
The Honor 9X Pro will be available in China from August 9, 2019, in Phantom Purple and Magic Night Black colors, for a price of CNY 2,199 (~$320) for the 8GB/128GB variant and CNY 2,399 (~$349) for the 8GB/256GB variant.

ZTE Axon 10 Pro

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Info from ZTE USA website:
Starts at US$550 for 8gb RAM (or 12gb) & 256gb ROM
6.47” FHD+ (2340 X 1080) AMOLED screen
Curved screen edge
4,000mAh Battery
Qualcomm Quick Charge™ 4+ and Wireless Quick Charge 3.0
No-bezel screen with fingerprint sensor & notch camera
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Battery
4000mAh (typical), Qualcomm®Quick Charge™ 4+, wireless charging v3.0
Memory
8GB or 12GB RAM + 256GB ROM
Expandable Storage (up to 2 TB via Micro SD memory card*)
Display
6.47” quad curved 3D AMOLED screen, FHD+(2340x1080)
Features
In-display fingerprint, Dual super linear speaker, DTS:X® Ultra , Hi-Fi, Face ID, NFC,
GPS/A-GPS /Galileo, 802.11a/b/g/n/ac, 2.4 GHz/5 GHz, BT 5.0
OS
Android P (upgrading to Android 10 by end of calendar 2019)
Camera
Rear: 48M(4in1) f/1.7 + 20M(4in1) 125°wide angle f/2.2 + 8M telephoto camera f/2.4
Front: 20M(4in1) f/2.0
Network
FDD:1/2/3/4/5/7/8/12/13/17/18/19/20/25/26/28/30/66/71;
TDD:B34/38/39/40/41(2535-2655MHz);
UMTS:B1/2/4/5/8;
GSM:B2/3/5/8
LTE 4*4MIMO B2/4/7/38/41/66
DL 4CA,DL 3CA,DL 2CA;UL 2CA
Platform
Qualcomm™ Snapdragon™ SD855 octa core SoC processor
Size
159.2*73.4*7.9mm (6.27 x 2.89 x 0.31 inches)
Interfaces
USB Type-C 3.1 (GEN1), nano+ nano/microSD (up to 2TB)
Accelerometer, Proximity, Fingerprint, Facial recognition, RGB Sensor, Compass, Gyroscope, Hall sensor
* Wireless charger and Micro SD card are not included.
After the fiasco of software problems with the Axon 7 I don't think I would spend a significant sum on one of their phones again.
They really need to get their **** together....
RobboW said:
After the fiasco of software problems with the Axon 7 I don't think I would spend a significant sum on one of their phones again.
They really need to get their **** together....
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Yeah that was quite the nightmare, especially with the ban and having a not good last update. Glad GSI's are doing the trick, but I think ZTE should work on their updates a little better.
I will bet my money on huawei flagships instead...
taufikthexfader said:
I will bet my money on huawei flagships instead...
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I hope they survive the Trump administration fiasco of trade wars because their phones are very good.
I got my wife a new Mate 20 recently, as long as it's modern she won't care if it's on Android 10 or 11. She wouldn't have a clue and it will get 10 at least.
I don't care about the bootloader as modern Android is great as long as the OEM doesn't make it with too many bugs (looking crossly at ZTE).
My Axon 7 and Axon 7 Mini are both stock and it doesn't bother me from a feature point of view.
Rooting and modding them was all in the past because the OS was so fragmented and basic. Now it's just not a concern for me.
I'd have a new Huawei right now if needed. The new models coming out from now on are where the problem is, not the pre-existing ones.

Huawei P40 Pro could have a newer periscopic telephoto lens for 10X optical zoom

Huawei is gearing up to launch its next smartphone, the Huawei P40 and P40 Pro, despite still being unable to bundle Google Mobile Services. The P40 series is scheduled for launch in late March 2020 at an event in Paris, and Huawei has confirmed that the phone will feature the HMS ecosystem with Android 10 and EMUI 10 out of the box. The first set of reliable renders of the Huawei P40 and P40 Pro had recently emerged, showing a flat display for the P40 and a “premium” curved display for the P40 Pro with an interesting design for the corners. Now, new reports suggest that the Huawei P40 Pro could have a newer periscopic telephoto lens for as much as 10x optical zoom.
The renders leaked by @OnLeaks, who has a stellar record with his leaked records, purposefully leave out certain key details. This involves the exact specifications, as well as the camera arrangement. According to OnLeaks, the camera modules are very large, indicating bigger modules or more cameras or both. The primary camera could involve the 64MP Sony IMX686, coupled with the 20MP wide-angle camera and a zoom camera. New reports suggest that this zoom camera could feature a redesigned periscope telephoto lens and come with 10x optical zoom. This report comes courtesy of Ming-Chi Kuo, an analyst at TF International Securities, who is famed for his accurate predictions on Apple products.
Here is a screenshot from his report where the new periscope setup has been suggested:
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In addition to this, the Huawei P40 Pro also appears to be using a 1G2P lens. Our colleague, Idrees, suggests that this means the camera has 1 Glass and 2 Plastic elements. Most smartphones have lenses with 5 or 6 Plastic elements, so a 1G2P setup would represent an upgrade as glass provides better clarity and is less susceptible to scratching, but at the cost being more difficult to handle. Glass also has a higher refractive index than plastic, making it possible to have a thinner lens. In case the thickness is retained, the higher refractive index will also allow the glass elements to converge a wider field of view onto the sensor. A sensible solution would be to stay somewhere along the middle and partly reap both the advantages.
Interestingly, Huawei’s approach to telephoto is in contrast to Samsung’s for the Galaxy S11+. While Huawei is using a redesigned periscope setup, Samsung is opting for a 48MP high-resolution telephoto camera. It’ll be interesting to see which one comes out on top, keeping in mind the performance of high MP camera setups in their resolution photo modes.
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The aperture f/4.0 is smaller... it will capture less light.

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