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If i do a nandroid backup before unlocking and flashing a new rom, and then use the back up, will it restore my device and lock BL ? will it at least hide the "unlocked" text ?
You can't use CWM without unlocking first, so nope.
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So no way to "Re-Lock" ?
Unlocking/Rooting
Ok, so, you can root without unlocking. Rooting allows you to have superuser rights meaning you can change the system. However, without unlocking your bootloader, you cannot boot up a different ROM (a different OS).
I guess if you root, you could then go do a Titanium Backup after installing the app from the Play Store, that could then backup to an SD card (I would then remove it just in case unlocking wipes your SD too!) and you could then unlock and restore your apps and data from Titanium after unlocking. BUT, Titanium is not like nandroid and doesn't backup everything! So backup any essential data twice!
Oh, and relocking is impossible as far as I understand btw, but I understand that you can make it impossible to tell (well other than the burnt out wire which apparently burns when you unlock the device, a permanent change), this can apparently be done via flashing some sbf files and a Fruitcake. But no, when booting a custom ROM, I don't think that you can remove the unlocked text, only when doing a full restore as far as I can understand.
Hope this helps.
Feel free to ask any other questions you have before going for it and I will try to help, but I am sure someone else can be more helpful than me .
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1.how do i backup my Verizon Samsung note 2 keis does not work
2.what exactly does mean if you unlock the boot loader it seems i need to do this so i can use the backup option int the galaxy note 2 toolkit
is there another way to backup or is this the only way? im on stock rooted I605VRALJB. all i want is to be able to do is a backup throgh keis or equivalent
anyone recomend a lockscreen like noled or a simple notification/nightstand clock app/widget
thnks
1. The best way to make a backup requires an unlocked phone with a custom recovery. Then you can make a full image of your phone in it's current state. Very handy.
2. Unlocking the bootloader gives you access to low level parts of the phone, things outside of Android itself. It allows you to install and tweak parts of your phone you otherwise couldn't, like the kernel and the recovery. This means more customization like different ROM's and overclocking capability. If you have any interest in modifying your phone I would recommend unlocking your bootloader, but only if you're comfortable doing it. It's so easy that anyone could do it, but still it's always your responsibility if anything happens.
No idea for your last question.
ok so i need to unlock the boot loader to be able to do the backup right? Then do i need to secure it as in change a root password or is that more of a you can brick your phone?
If that is what i need to do is it hard to undo since it is not recomended to use odin again except to go back to stock which is fine since i dont want to mod anything except getting root so i can tether and being able to do a backup. by the way the unlocking process will it erase my current setup? or will it stay the same since im already stock with only mod being rooted? any links to videos showing how to would be nice thanks. yea so easy a cave man could do it but the internet can prouduce a better caveman/noob.
looking to get another verizen note 2 any idea of where to get one cheap?
Hey guys, I've rooted, installed CWM Recovery, Unlocked Bootloader, and installed CyanogenMod on another phone before.
The thing is, I've had this phone for about 6 months and wanted to do the same. However, after browsing through the forums, man are there a lot of scary sh*t going down. I would like the request the procedure to install CyanogenMod safely, without losing any Keys/IMEI/XReality/DRMkeys/Etcetera.
I dont know if the method given by FXP is supposed to be this straight forward, but I too like others, do not want to risk losing important stuff if it can be avoided (Keys/IMEI/XReality/DRMkeys/Etcetera).
HOWTO
Install instructions:
first time
- power off the phone:
- hold vol+ and plug usb to boot into fastboot (blu led)
- fastboot flash boot boot.img (from cm10 zip)
- fastboot reboot
- enter recovery, on boot led will be violet for 3'', during this period press vol+
- flash rom zip
- flash gapps zip
- wipe
- reboot
for update just flash rom zip from recovery
Google Apps are not included in this ROM. You'll need to find those yourself if you want them.
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Frankly speaking, the forums is pretty much jumbled up, and the existing [Guide] Threads are either incomplete (Lacking important steps), or Unclear (Non-Specific steps).
Perhaps someone could do me a favour by using the template that I have below to help me, and possibly others, to install CM 10.2 on our beast of a phone.
Template:
1. Backup TA and DRMkeys and stuff: http://forum-xda-developers-com/backup
2. Root: http://forum-xda-developers-com/root
3. Recovery : http://forum-xda-developers-com/recovery
4: Unlock Bootloader: http://forum-xda-developers-com/ulbl
5: Install FXP's CM 10.2 :http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2461286
Something like that would suffice I think, as long as no important steps are missing that would cause me to lose stuff unique to my phone, that cannot be recovered if I didn't back it up.
P.S. My version is 14.1.B.2.257
P.P.S. Thank you in advance.
1. Root
2. Backup TA (VERY IMPORTANT)
3. Install Recovery and unlock the bootloader, or the other way around. Both ways work.
4. Install ROM by following the "guide" that you quoted above.
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I'm on 14.1.B.2.257, I believe reverting to the previous version causes data to be lost unless you back it up right. *Sighs* How troublesome.
Xenogenics said:
I'm on 14.1.B.2.257, I believe reverting to the previous version causes data to be lost unless you back it up right. *Sighs* How troublesome.
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you will have to back up the data anyways. I think unlocking the bootloader does a factory reset, as well one is needed going from stock to CM if i unforget correctly
I am also wondering about this. I'm currently running firmware .257.
I understand that I need to back up the TA partition first (though I'm not exactly sure on what I will loose if I don't). I also understand that to do this I need to root the stock rom. I understand that in order to root, I'll need to first downgrade to an earlier firmware using flashtool. However, after that I'm not so sure what I need to do. As far as I can see, the only method of gaining root currently is to use vRoot, which is currently under investigation for IMEI mining.
How else can I root the device? I was thinking of maybe using the recovery for locked bootloaders here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2426739
Following by flashing SuperSU from recovery as per usual.
Will this work, keeping the TA partition intact so that I can back it up before flashing CM? Assuming so, would I even need to downgrade from the .257 firmware at all?
Thanks,
i have CWM now so can flash custom roms like i did on other phones right?
what does unlocking the bootloader give me? unless i'm wrong and i have to unlock to flash?
all i've done so far is do a backup is all. (did a TA backup a while back though)
stiggy2012 said:
I am also wondering about this. I'm currently running firmware .257.
I understand that I need to back up the TA partition first (though I'm not exactly sure on what I will loose if I don't). I also understand that to do this I need to root the stock rom. I understand that in order to root, I'll need to first downgrade to an earlier firmware using flashtool. However, after that I'm not so sure what I need to do. As far as I can see, the only method of gaining root currently is to use vRoot, which is currently under investigation for IMEI mining.
How else can I root the device? I was thinking of maybe using the recovery for locked bootloaders here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2426739
Following by flashing SuperSU from recovery as per usual.
Will this work, keeping the TA partition intact so that I can back it up before flashing CM? Assuming so, would I even need to downgrade from the .257 firmware at all?
Thanks,
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OK, so looking into this further, you already need to have root to be able to flash the "CWM for locked bootloader" rocovery. So as far as I can see, the only way to get root in order to back up the TA partition is to give your IMEI to the Chinese via vRoot?
Thank god the stock rom is so good.
tommo123 said:
i have CWM now so can flash custom roms like i did on other phones right?
what does unlocking the bootloader give me? unless i'm wrong and i have to unlock to flash?
all i've done so far is do a backup is all. (did a TA backup a while back though)
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You have to unlock the bootloader to flash custom ROMs. You can flash stock ROMs without unlocking it, but you have to unlock it if you want CM, PAC, PA etc.
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really, so what would happen if i tried to flash an aosp rom now? would the system partition essentially be read only?
sorry for the Qs but haven't had a locked bootloader since the htc desire (although the s-off for that one was to remap the partitions to allow more room for data) and the reasons for unlocking don't seem to be the same.
tommo123 said:
really, so what would happen if i tried to flash an aosp rom now? would the system partition essentially be read only?
sorry for the Qs but haven't had a locked bootloader since the htc desire (although the s-off for that one was to remap the partitions to allow more room for data) and the reasons for unlocking don't seem to be the same.
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Nothing will happen if you try it now. You can easily unlock the bootloader by going to Sony's Dev site, request your key and use Flashtool to unlock it. It takes a couple of minutes once you have Flashtool and the drivers installed. It's also perfectly safe to unlock it and you will lose your warranty. BUT you can easily relock it again if something happens to your ZU and the warrenty will be back.
Remember to backup your TA before you unlock your bootloader. It contains a lot if device info and your unique DRM keys. Unlocking the bootloader will wipe the system partition, but you will still have root, photos, music etc. (But do a backup of those just in case).
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i think that's where i got confused with drivers - unlocking.
i have already done a backup of my TA part so that side of it is ok. i'll leave unlocking until there's a rom i want to try. possibly a complete 4.4 or something.
cheers LM
tommo123 said:
i think that's where i got confused with drivers - unlocking.
i have already done a backup of my TA part so that side of it is ok. i'll leave unlocking until there's a rom i want to try. possibly a complete 4.4 or something.
cheers LM
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If you've already backed up your TA, it means that you have the drivers installed, so job done All you have to do is to install Flashtool and get your key from Sony (which you will get on your email straight away). Either way, just ask here if/when you want to unlock it so we can guide you through it (it's very easy though).
ran flashtool but gave me driver errors - missing. unable to install the drivers included (i guess due to windows 8 driver signing)
I want to root my 5X but I dont have a PC. I have found a app named Kingroot. It says it can root my device.
1. Does it work?
2. Will I lose my data
3. Will it brick, that is the question
Since this device's bootloader is unlockable, why not simply unlock bootloader and flash SuperSU? Data can always be backed up and restored. It's really easiest and cleanest way, and you're not using random shady apps.
I think that Kingoroot is quite a security concern because there is no way to know what's that app pushing to your system - used it on my old Allwiner tab, and had nothing but trouble later (trying to remove KR crap from device and replace it with SuperSU nearly bricked it after KR removal, so I had to do a full reflash of device, lost everything on it, and lost five days trying to find an exploit manually, since device didn't have usable recovery... and all because of that Kingoroot crap - lesson learned the hard way), but hey, it's your device.
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Since this device's bootloader is unlockable, why not simply unlock bootloader and flash SuperSU? Data can always be backed up and restored. It's really easiest and cleanest way, and you're not using random shady apps.
I think that Kingoroot is quite a security concern because there is no way to know what's that app pushing to your system - used it on my old Allwiner tab, and had nothing but trouble later (trying to remove KR crap from device and replace it with SuperSU nearly bricked it after KR removal, so I had to do a full reflash of device, lost everything on it, and lost five days trying to find an exploit manually, since device didn't have usable recovery... and all because of that Kingoroot crap - lesson learned the hard way), but hey, it's your device.
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Bootloader unlock and flash su is definitely the cleaner way to do it and there are good guides available but the oem unlock part does require fastboot which if you don't have access to a computer, I don't think you can do it without having root already.
I have used Kingroot before as well, not for the 5x though. However, I immediately flashed a custom rom however so I didn't have to deal with all that junk haha. Still, as @ShadySquirrell said, you don't really know what's going on underneath the hood.
Another thing to note is kingroot has its own su binary as far as I know, not supersu, although there are ways to change that.
I really would just recommend finding a pc to work on if possible however, it's a better solution. Unlocking bootloader will wipe your data so make sure to back up what you can though. I don't recall kingroot wiping data but then again, I didn't care at the time anyways.
Hope this helps
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Bootloader unlock and flash su is definitely the cleaner way to do it and there are good guides available but the oem unlock part does require fastboot which if you don't have access to a computer, I don't think you can do it without having root already.
I have used Kingroot before as well, not for the 5x though. However, I immediately flashed a custom rom however so I didn't have to deal with all that junk haha. Still, as @ShadySquirrell said, you don't really know what's going on underneath the hood.
Another thing to note is kingroot has its own su binary as far as I know, not supersu, although there are ways to change that.
I really would just recommend finding a pc to work on if possible however, it's a better solution. Unlocking bootloader will wipe your data so make sure to back up what you can though. I don't recall kingroot wiping data but then again, I didn't care at the time anyways.
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So if I now root my phone over the pc, can I just backup my data and restore them later with HiSuite and the root is still there. Or how did you backup?
kingoroot worked great on my lg d851 (g3) but the bootloader was unlocked on that device. as far as backing up what you currently have , id back up all of the downloads, photos,mp3s etc to your computers hard drive first, and then use fastboot. hisuite may work decently but i didnt like it on my computer, it seemed like a RAM Hog on my PC so i cant vouch for it personally
I've also never really used hisuite but from a quick google search seems like it would work fine. I assume you're staying with the stock rom so hisuite would prob work but if not, the process is pretty much the same except you should back up using titanium or something similar after restore from hisuite.
*(I didn't backup through hisuite when I rooted and flashed since I didn't have anything I needed to keep and I was changing roms anyways)
As far as backing up, @talksickisil said what I was thinking, just backup all your personal data somewhere, make sure your contacts, calendar, accounts, etc are backed up as well.
You can try an adb backup as well but maybe someone else can give you more info on that. There's quite a few tools if you don't like using terminal commands. There's a couple xda threads on adb backups as well.
Yes it good to back up those as well. But hopefully your google account is set to sync your contacts calendars gmail and google drive data etc, this way when you log in again it syncs back to you.
DO NOT root with Kingroot.
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YoungMiner said:
I want to root my 5X but I dont have a PC. I have found a app named Kingroot. It says it can root my device.
1. Does it work?
2. Will I lose my data
3. Will it brick, that is the question
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Never ever root with KingRoot or any other such app. It's better to remain without a root.
will not root will fail . u should unlock bootloader .
even though if you have unlocked bootloader, king root just dont work on honor 5x
Alright, I've received the email as the title implies but here are the questions I have before I proceed into the whole process
Is there a way to backup the stock image without TWRP? if so how do you get the stock image backed up if it's impossible how to back up the stock bootlover/recovery before installing TWRP if I were to get rid of TWRP one day?
also is it possible to just root the system without flashing anything to avoid data loss? this would be the preferred option actually, thanks! (Using the be2028 t-mobile version, if there's a premade backup that'll be cool too.)
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Alright, I've received the email as the title implies but here are the questions I have before I proceed into the whole process
Is there a way to backup the stock image without TWRP? if so how do you get the stock image backed up if it's impossible how to back up the stock bootlover/recovery before installing TWRP if I were to get rid of TWRP one day?
also is it possible to just root the system without flashing anything to avoid data loss? this would be the preferred option actually, thanks! (Using the be2028 t-mobile version, if there's a premade backup that'll be cool too.)
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I am just getting back to messing around with phones after about 5 years. So many things have changed and I am trying to get answers here as well.
I used TWRP and Magisk to root my phone. Installing TWRP will not wipe your data as it is flashed to a different partition but to install TWRP you have to unlock the bootloader and that will wipe your userdata. And no, I don't believe there is any possibility of rooting without unlocking the bootloader. If you decide you want to go back to stock, there are stock roms available and you can re-lock the bootloader on the N10 so you should be able to set it back to just like it was when you first bought it. I say should because I have never done it, just read that it can be done when I unlocked and flashed mine.
I wish I could be of more help but so many things have changed in the years since I've been away from doing this stuff I feel like a total noob again.
animenote said:
Alright, I've received the email as the title implies but here are the questions I have before I proceed into the whole process
Is there a way to backup the stock image without TWRP? if so how do you get the stock image backed up if it's impossible how to back up the stock bootlover/recovery before installing TWRP if I were to get rid of TWRP one day?
also is it possible to just root the system without flashing anything to avoid data loss? this would be the preferred option actually, thanks! (Using the be2028 t-mobile version, if there's a premade backup that'll be cool too.)
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No I do not believe there's a way to gain root without flashing anything. There's no need to backup anything you can always use the MSM download tool to restore your device. https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...l-to-restore-your-device-to-oxygenos.4204445/ You should be able to find most of the stock imgs on here already if you'd really need to flash back. I'm no expert either, just my experience with this phone in particular has been pretty straightforward. I never backed up anything lol.
Twrp is iffy i made a backup I'll never use, check out the post about flashing international rom to tmo and metro devices, that's my backup. Also you can run 11.0.3/2 firmware and boot 11 gsi's the post about lir rom has the info. Flash the product_gsi.img referenced there, I have never deleted my product partition and I only leave oos ten installed long enough to take ota's. There are more roms in the source forge page referenced with lir rom post. Flash magisk via recovery, either side load or twrp, pay attention that it flashes partition sda14(super image) or wifi breaks.