I have a Moto E 2015 XT1526 with an unlocked bootloader, and TWRP. After trying many roms I finally settled on the stock rom in the interest of having a reliable phone.
The stock rom I flashed isn't the latest so I get the update nag, what happens if I update using this?
I don't mind if it deletes TWRP or kills root I am just worried it will brick the device.
Don't install a stock ota update if you have TWRP... Device will hard brick!
Some users reported that if you want to get ota updates you had to (if i remember):
- Unroot phone and remove all mods
- Install stock recovery
-Get and install ota
Aftee this you can re-install TWRP and other mods.
dxp420 said:
Don't install a stock ota update if you have TWRP... Device will hard brick!
Some users reported that if you want to get ota updates you had to (if i remember):
- Unroot phone and remove all mods
- Install stock recovery
-Get and install ota
Aftee this you can re-install TWRP and other mods.
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Heard the same and personally wouldn't risk it.
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Hello,
I am not new to the process of rooting, unlock bootloader or flashing ROM. But, this is the first time that I need to root a HTC phone, the HTC One M8. I don't usually care much for stock ROM, but this is my girlfriend's phone and I think stock ROM works best for her. It is more stable, even though it will be a bit slow and has a lot of bloatware. I plan to root it then manually go in and disable most of the bloated apps. Then, I will install Xposed Module and add some useful modules. However, the release of Lollipop is around the corner. I want to know if rooting it will affect the ability of doing OTA upgrade.
Base on what I have read, in order to root, you have to unlock the bootloader, then replace the stock recovery with custom recovery like CWM/TWRP, then you flash the supersu.zip file to grant root permission. I am familiar with the process, but I am a bit confused at this part. Since we use a custom recovery to flash the supersu.zip file, it is more likely that OTA upgrade will fail since most OTA upgrade rely on stock recovery.
1/ Then, how do I upgrade to Lollipop 5.0 once I have rooted the phone?
The current ROM is Kitkat I think.
2/ I mean, is there a stock recovery file that I can flash back to replace the custom recovery once the phone has been rooted? or the OTA process will work with the custom recovery, which is very unlikely in my opinion.
3/ Also, once I have upgraded to Lollipop, I can do the same process to gain root again, (flash custom recovery, then flash supersu.zip to gain root). Is that correct?
4/ Is there any other method of gaining root without losing OTA update? As long as I don't have to wipe everything and restore it for every OTA update. I am fine with it.
Please let me know. Thank you all for your help.
After you root, flash back your stock recovery. As long as you are running stock the ota will attempt to download. Even when running non-stock recovery - what will happen is the ota will download and when you accept the update the phone will reboot into your custom recovery and the update won't be applied because the ota relies on the stock recovery being there.
So anyway, you can root, replace custom recovery back with stock and allow the update. You will most likely loose root once the update is applied, but then as long as there are custom recoveries available for the new android version you can flash back to custom recovery, reroot and you should be set.
I did this for a while, but the downside is that if SuperSU updates (or whichever root method you use) and requires a bin update, you won't be able to apply the root bin update unless you are running the custom recovery.
Hope that makes sense, typing from my phone while on a train.
What I do is this
Unlock Bootloader via HTC DEV website.
Dl a custom recovery I prefer TWRP Recovery flash that via Fastboot.
Then boot into custom recovery on your phone and create a New backup of the stock rom b4 you install SuperSU for root, name it something like (Stock untouched) .
Then flash superSU update zip in recovery.
Once superuser is working do what you want.
Note: I'd go ahead and find and Dl the stock recovery and keep it on hand for when you ready to go back Stock for the OTA update.
Go back to stock
Boot into custom recovery wipe system /data/cache. Then restore the Stock (untouched) backup you made.
Fastboot flash the stock recovery back.
Then relock Bootloader and now you back to Stock and ready to do the OTA update.
Note : this is what I do, everybody got their own way of doing things
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tommy_riley said:
After you root, flash back your stock recovery. As long as you are running stock the ota will attempt to download. Even when running non-stock recovery - what will happen is the ota will download and when you accept the update the phone will reboot into your custom recovery and the update won't be applied because the ota relies on the stock recovery being there.
So anyway, you can root, replace custom recovery back with stock and allow the update. You will most likely loose root once the update is applied, but then as long as there are custom recoveries available for the new android version you can flash back to custom recovery, reroot and you should be set.
I did this for a while, but the downside is that if SuperSU updates (or whichever root method you use) and requires a bin update, you won't be able to apply the root bin update unless you are running the custom recovery.
Hope that makes sense, typing from my phone while on a train.
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Ok, thank you for the reply. That clears up a little. I can just flash stock recovery every time I want to update. I was able to find a thread that has all the stock recovery file. I have a quick question. Does any version of stock recovery will work? or you want the one that match your current stock recovery. Also, what is Non-WWE-Recoveries?
Here is the thread with all the stock recoveries:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701376
Let me know. Thank you
scoot0073 said:
What I do is this
Unlock Bootloader via HTC DEV website.
Dl a custom recovery I prefer TWRP Recovery flash that via Fastboot.
Then boot into custom recovery on your phone and create a New backup of the stock rom b4 you install SuperSU for root, name it something like (Stock untouched) .
Then flash superSU update zip in recovery.
Once superuser is working do what you want.
Note: I'd go ahead and find and Dl the stock recovery and keep it on hand for when you ready to go back Stock for the OTA update.
Go back to stock
Boot into custom recovery wipe system /data/cache. Then restore the Stock (untouched) backup you made.
Fastboot flash the stock recovery back.
Then relock Bootloader and now you back to Stock and ready to do the OTA update.
Note : this is what I do, everybody got their own way of doing things
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Hello,
I understand your concept for going back to stock. But, I don't get why I have to relock the bootloader. What I mean is, is that necessary for the OTA to work? I thought you only need the stock recovery for the OTA to work. Also, once you have done OTA update, and you want to root the phone again. The downsize is you have to unlock the bootloader again, which will wipe the phone completely and you will have to restore everything, which wastes times.
I like the idea of just restoring the stock recovery, do the OTA upgrade, then flash custom recovery to gain root again. I don't mind repeating that process for each update. But to relock/unlock the bootloader, having to wipe everything is a hassle. Please clarify. Thank you for your help.
I don't believe you need to relock boot loader for OTA. You do need locked bootloader for RUU full install, but only if S-ON (s-off you can do RUU w/boot loader locked or unlocked) - but that's not what were talking about here - OTA w/ unlocked boot loader = All good.
I believe WWE recovery refers to Europe versions of the recovery, so if in US go for the non-WWE.
I'd stick with trying to lineup stick recovery versions with version of OS software you have installed - so if you are running stock 4.4.2 or 4.4.3 grab the latest stocl recovery available.
vi6s said:
Hello,
I understand your concept for going back to stock. But, I don't get why I have to relock the bootloader. What I mean is, is that necessary for the OTA to work? I thought you only need the stock recovery for the OTA to work. Also, once you have done OTA update, and you want to root the phone again. The downsize is you have to unlock the bootloader again, which will wipe the phone completely and you will have to restore everything, which wastes times.
I like the idea of just restoring the stock recovery, do the OTA upgrade, then flash custom recovery to gain root again. I don't mind repeating that process for each update. But to relock/unlock the bootloader, having to wipe everything is a hassle. Please clarify. Thank you for your help.
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Lol.. Yea if S-On relock Bootloader for RUU.
But no you don't need to relock the Bootloader for OTA updates S-On or s-off Sorry for the confusion I was going back n forth with another user and got you mixed up.
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vi6s said:
Ok, thank you for the reply. That clears up a little. I can just flash stock recovery every time I want to update. I was able to find a thread that has all the stock recovery file. I have a quick question. Does any version of stock recovery will work? or you want the one that match your current stock recovery.
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You need the stock recovery that correspond to your stock software. AT&T software is x.xx.502, and I don't see any corresponding recoveries in exocet's stock nandroid collection, but 1.12.502 and 1.58.502 stock recoveries are posted here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-htc-one-m8/development/att-stock-backups-recoveries-otas-t2855966
Also, while eluded to above, it should be clearly stated, no /system files may be modified, in order for OTA to install. So depending on what you intend to change with root, you will either need to put it back to stock (if you modded any system files), restore the stock ROM with a nandroid you made, or a stock ROM posted on XDA.
Alternately, you can quickly return to stock by RUU. Although you either need to relock the bootloader or have s-off to run the RUU. And RUU will also wipe the phone.
So to sum it up, in order to OTA you need:
/system to be returned to stock (stock ROM)
stock recovery
Unlocked bootloader is OK
Root is okay (you will lose root after the OTA)
I have a H850 on V10d. The bootloader is unlocked, TWRP 3.0.2-0 is flashed to the recovery partition and SuperSU 2.78 is installed.
When I try an OTA update, the phone reboots to TWRP. Rebooting from there leaves me with the old firmware.
What is the preferred way to update? Can I use LG Bridge? Or do I have to flash a stock recovery?
bornheim2 said:
I have a H850 on V10d. The bootloader is unlocked, TWRP 3.0.2-0 is flashed to the recovery partition and SuperSU 2.78 is installed.
When I try an OTA update, the phone reboots to TWRP. Rebooting from there leaves me with the old firmware.
What is the preferred way to update? Can I use LG Bridge? Or do I have to flash a stock recovery?
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Update with LGUp o by flashing firmware zip (if avaible) trough TWRP.
Never do OTA when you are rooted or have a TWRP, there are high possibility to brick in these cases.
so if i have an unlocked bootloader, custom recovery, and i'm rooted, but have a bunch of apps installed and a bunch of configurations, unroot, flash stock and then install the OTA, i'm okay?
Angry Black Man said:
so if i have an unlocked bootloader, custom recovery, and i'm rooted, but have a bunch of apps installed and a bunch of configurations, unroot, flash stock and then install the OTA, i'm okay?
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If you're going to flash stock, you may not need to worry about an OTA. Just find the latest KDZ file for your G5 H850 here: https://lg-firmwares.com/lg-h850-firmwares/ and then flash it with LGUP. Your bootloader will still be unlocked, and you'll have to use fastboot to flash TWRP after which you can root your new stock firmware by flashing SU. Flashing stock is just that; you'll lose any installed apps and configurations you've set in 10d.
Abort said:
If you're going to flash stock...
Flashing stock is just that; you'll lose any installed apps and configurations you've set in 10d.
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Maybe you can prevent some losses if you use the LG Backup tool at first!
Make a Backup and you can restore some of your apps and their data.
BUT ALL ICON / SOUND & SYSTEM SETTINGS ARE LOST!
Hello everyone,
I rooted my OnePlus X using Kingroot. Now that the update for Marshmallow is available, I am willing to update my unit to the same. I had unrooted my device using the SuperSU app. After that, I unlocked my bootloader and tried to boot to TWRP and install OTA update, no success. I also tried installing the update via stock recovery but it shows installation failed.
Also tried resetting my device and then installing the update but no dice. Nor do I have the unrooted backup. Also,have changed the system font.
Tried searching the forums. Please tell me how can I update to the official Marshmallow latest build?
Device Information:
Oxygen OS version: 2.1.3-x
Bootloader State: Unlocked
Recovery: Stock
Thanks in advance!
You need this update file. Because rooted your opx!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=68655787&postcount=49
Zat.o.ichi said:
You need this update file. Because rooted your opx!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=68655787&postcount=49
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What about the system font? And will I get OTA updates as I have unlocked my device's bootloader?
mukul2259 said:
Hello everyone,
I rooted my OnePlus X using Kingroot. Now that the update for Marshmallow is available, I am willing to update my unit to the same. I had unrooted my device using the SuperSU app. After that, I unlocked my bootloader and tried to boot to TWRP and install OTA update, no success. I also tried installing the update via stock recovery but it shows installation failed.
Also tried resetting my device and then installing the update but no dice. Nor do I have the unrooted backup. Also,have changed the system font.
Tried searching the forums. Please tell me how can I update to the official Marshmallow latest build?
Device Information:
Oxygen OS version: 2.1.3-x
Bootloader State: Unlocked
Recovery: Stock
Thanks in advance!
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Download your current version oxygen os rom put it in sd card and flash it via stock recovery, once u done that it ll again make ur phone us unmodified system now then download oxygen os 3.1.3 from oneplus website and and flash it by stock recovery this time it ll work cos of unmodified system.
Flash this first it ll work Oos 2.1.4 download link https://s3.amazonaws.com/oxygenos.oneplus.net/OnePlusOxygen_14_OTA_007_all_201512161752.zip
Boot into system reboot flash oos3.1.3
Marshmellow oos 3.1.3 download link https://s3.amazonaws.com/oxygenos.o...OTA_018_all_201609291837_741146bcf28e4587.zip
Doubts? Feel free to ask
I suggest you go step by step, from 2.1.3 upgrade to 2.1.4, move to 2.2.2 then 2.2.3, finally the MM, It worked in my case, I was also on 2.1.3 and faced trouble.. Hope it helps you.
Infact, after upgrading to 2.2.2, the system should have been unrooted. Just flash stock Lollipop recovery and leave it. You should get the rest of the updates as OTA immediately.
mukul2259 said:
Hello everyone,
I rooted my OnePlus X using Kingroot. Now that the update for Marshmallow is available, I am willing to update my unit to the same. I had unrooted my device using the SuperSU app. After that, I unlocked my bootloader and tried to boot to TWRP and install OTA update, no success. I also tried installing the update via stock recovery but it shows installation failed.
Also tried resetting my device and then installing the update but no dice. Nor do I have the unrooted backup. Also,have changed the system font.
Tried searching the forums. Please tell me how can I update to the official Marshmallow latest build?
Device Information:
Oxygen OS version: 2.1.3-x
Bootloader State: Unlocked
Recovery: Stock
Thanks in advance!
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Did you check that the OEM unlocking was enabled after you unlocked the bootloader? Maybe that can be a problem. And I guess flashing the OOS Marshmallow build is possible only with the stock recovery (if you do not want to delete some lines from the code). So I'd stick to stock recovery if I want to update the OOS.
aamodjoshi23 said:
Did you check that the OEM unlocking was enabled after you unlocked the bootloader? Maybe that can be a problem. And I guess flashing the OOS Marshmallow build is possible only with the stock recovery (if you do not want to delete some lines from the code). So I'd stick to stock recovery if I want to update the OOS.
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Yes, I did check it. It is enabled.
sagar2208 said:
I suggest you go step by step, from 2.1.3 upgrade to 2.1.4, move to 2.2.2 then 2.2.3, finally the MM, It worked in my case, I was also on 2.1.3 and faced trouble.. Hope it helps you.
Infact, after upgrading to 2.2.2, the system should have been unrooted. Just flash stock Lollipop recovery and leave it. You should get the rest of the updates as OTA immediately.
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I guess this is more logical to do right now. Maybe it's something in the system that can be overwritten after upgrading to OOS 2.2.2. Because when I flashed the beta testing ROM on my device when I had the OOS 2.2.2, it worked just fine. But I guess it won't work if you don't have an older version of OxygenOS because of the small tweaks
aamodjoshi23 said:
I guess this is more logical to do right now. Maybe it's something in the system that can be overwritten after upgrading to OOS 2.2.2. Because when I flashed the beta testing ROM on my device when I had the OOS 2.2.2, it worked just fine. But I guess it won't work if you don't have an older version of OxygenOS because of the small tweaks
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So, I should flash 2.1.3 via stock recovery and then go to 2.2.2, right?
mukul2259 said:
So, I should flash 2.1.3 via stock recovery and then go to 2.2.2, right?
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You could just update the ROM by checking for updates in the about phone
I'm currently running MIUI 8 global dev ROM with officially unlocked bootloader, and there's a new update for it. Problem is, I rooted my phone already and I'm not sure if updating it will get rid of root. Also, twrp doesn't stick for some reason, so it's not very convenient to just flash SuperSU.zip after updating.
Install zcx recovery (search on MIUI forums )..that'll help you to receive ota updates (so you don't have to download and flash the entire ROM all the time ).if you follow the instructions on installing zcx recovery then that twrp will stick ..after that you can install SuperSU after updating ROM .
When I tried to install the newest OTA update (NPNS26.118-22-2-18) with TWRP as recovery, it failed to update. firmware.center doesn't seem to have this update on file either. I ended up flashing the stock rom again and letting it update before rooting again. Is there any way to install OTA updates with TWRP WITHOUT losing all of your data?
I have the same problem (and unfortunately I do not know the answer)
OTA will not install with TWRP present. Theoretically it should be enough to flash stock recovery and bootloader only (without loosing data) but it is just an unverified speculation