Hi together,
Is it possible actually to port Ticwatch OS to an Amazfit Pace? I mean most of the Ticwatche‘s have similar specs.
Would it technically work? Would be awesome to have Wear OS on the Pace
Thanks,
Joshua
@Joshua115
will not work: Ticwatch uses Qualcomm chipsets basing on ARM architecture. Xiaomis models are basing on RISC-chipsets which differs a lot from qualcomms.
Android Wear is not open source thus almost impossible to port...
Melkor said:
@Joshua115
will not work: Ticwatch uses Qualcomm chipsets basing on ARM architecture. Xiaomis models are basing on RISC-chipsets which differs a lot from qualcomms.
Android Wear is not open source thus almost impossible to port...
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But just in theory: if I would find a Smartwatch with wearos that has identical specs, would it be possible to port this OS?
Joshua115 said:
But just in theory: if I would find a Smartwatch with wearos that has identical specs, would it be possible to port this OS?
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Yes, it happens with phone/tablet ROMs. Also with Stratos & Pace ROMs
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But just in theory: if I would find a Smartwatch with wearos that has identical specs, would it be possible to port this OS?
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The problem is that WearOS is ARM-only. So there is no identical other smartwatch - and probably will never be, because Amazfits platform is very old and bases on Android 4.4 => I guess it is from 2014/2015...
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Hey XDA Community,
after 3 1/2 years i'll retire my Galaxy S3 and get a new phone. So far so easy.
But as a Android enthusiast, i can't just buy a new phone, it has to be a phone which offers a good hardware base for using custom roms. And what i learned in the last 3 1/2 years is that, for example, Samsungs Exynos processors are NOT a good hardware base and rom developers hate Exynos processors.
So here we come to the magic question: Which is, from a developer view, the best, and what are acceptable processor brands which allow developers to develop a rom (more precisely the "device tree") which can make use of all of the processors features and its performance?
I think the following two brands are well known among all custom rom users and don't need to be commented:
Exynos -> as described above, "the Antichrist"
Qualcomm Snapdragon -> as far as i know the Holy Grail for developers
But what about the "underdogs"? How developer friendly are the following processor brands which now appear more and more in (flagship) phones from Huawei, Xiaomi and many other smaller phone manufacturers:
MediaTek (currently used by some Acer phones)
Hisilicon Kirin (for example used by the Huawei Ascend Mate 7, Huawei Honor 6 ...)
Nvidia Tegra (for example used by the new Google Pixel C tablet)
Intel Atom (for example used by the Asus ZenFone 2)
I'm excited about your experience with and recommendations for these "underdogs", especially if you are a developer!
Best regards,
Mika
Mediatek - Not developer friendly. Not easy to create custom ROMs for this brand of SoC.
Never heard of Hisilicon Kirin SoC. Not too sure about Nvidia Tegra.
No one else interessted in this issue?
Mika83AC said:
No one else interessted in this issue?
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Only qualcomm.
Hisilicon is a no go. No sources.
Sony + Qualcomm is the best choice.
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I added the "Intel Atom" processors to the list of choice. Perhaps a little late, but i think it's not unimportant.
Mika83AC said:
I added the "Intel Atom" processors to the list of choice. Perhaps a little late, but i think it's not unimportant.
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Intel is a no go as well since it's pretty new. As for your choice of SoC, it really depends on your needs. If you want to use a custom ROM, you're best off with Qualcomm. Otherwise most SoC will work fine for you. I own a Galaxy S6(Exynos SoC), unknown China phone(MediaTek SoC) and a HTC M8 HK edition(Qualcomm SoC). I can use them all just fine in my daily life.
Mika83AC said:
Hey XDA Community,
after 3 1/2 years i'll retire my Galaxy S3 and get a new phone. So far so easy.
But as a Android enthusiast, i can't just buy a new phone, it has to be a phone which offers a good hardware base for using custom roms. And what i learned in the last 3 1/2 years is that, for example, Samsungs Exynos processors are NOT a good hardware base and rom developers hate Exynos processors.
So here we come to the magic question: Which is, from a developer view, the best, and what are acceptable processor brands which allow developers to develop a rom (more precisely the "device tree") which can make use of all of the processors features and its performance?
I think the following two brands are well known among all custom rom users and don't need to be commented:
Exynos -> as described above, "the Antichrist"
Qualcomm Snapdragon -> as far as i know the Holy Grail for developers
But what about the "underdogs"? How developer friendly are the following processor brands which now appear more and more in (flagship) phones from Huawei, Xiaomi and many other smaller phone manufacturers:
MediaTek (currently used by some Acer phones)
Hisilicon Kirin (for example used by the Huawei Ascend Mate 7, Huawei Honor 6 ...)
Nvidia Tegra (for example used by the new Google Pixel C tablet)
Intel Atom (for example used by the Asus ZenFone 2)
I'm excited about your experience with and recommendations for these "underdogs", especially if you are a developer!
Best regards,
Mika
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If you want the most development, nexus devices will always have the best open source support. If not a nexus, stick with qualcomm . all the other socs have less open source support and therefore fewer developers willing to work on them. That doesn't mean you won't get custom ROMs (zenfone 2 is going well), but the pool of people able to do real development on it is tiny...
nVidia also releases open sourced images for it's devices...
check out
Cheers
dirlan2001 said:
nVidia also releases open sourced images for it's devices...
check out
Cheers
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nvidia = binary-hell
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popthosegaskets said:
Intel is a no go as well since it's pretty new. As for your choice of SoC, it really depends on your needs. If you want to use a custom ROM, you're best off with Qualcomm. Otherwise most SoC will work fine for you. I own a Galaxy S6(Exynos SoC), unknown China phone(MediaTek SoC) and a HTC M8 HK edition(Qualcomm SoC). I can use them all just fine in my daily life.
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My question is only meant to find the best choice/choices for using custom roms.
You're right, if just looking for a new phone, the SoC is not the most important to look for.
codeworkx said:
nvidia = binary-hell
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I guess this means "no fun for the devs"?
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I guess this means "no fun for the devs"?
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Depends on how you define "fun".
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codeworkx said:
.... Sony + Qualcomm is the best choice ...
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Hey @codeworkx, just one question regarding your sony recommendation.
What do you say about this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/general/loss-drm-keys-t2890936
If Sony offers you good conditions / sources / binarys and whatever to develop a custom rom, but kills or at minumum downgrades many of the phones features when unlocking the bootloader (camera quality, screen quality, sound quality ...) would you buy this devices at all?
Or is there a way arround this bootloader mess which just isn't known in the thread linked above?
Regards,
Mika
how feasible it is to port wearOS on Moto 360 2nd Gen / 2015?
I really don't think it is possible. I think it's a hardware restriction due to the older Snapdragon 400. None of the Snapdragon 400 devices have received the update to Android Wear Oreo update, so WearOS is a real doubt.
You guys are aware that WearOS is just a rebranding from Android Wear and has nothing to with Oreo (which the Moto definitely won't get)
In fact, my Moto360 2nd shows in System Information "WearOS 2.10.0.188487362"
Cheers
Tom
Yes, v2.10 is WearOS.
I have a Vertu Aster P Chinese clone, purchased from here https://www.luxuryvertu.cn/ProID473.html and since buying it, I've been desperate to try and update it from the Vertu-themed Android 6.0 Marshmallow that it came with.
They lie about the phone specs on their site that I got it from. It doesn't run Android 8.0 and it doesn't have a Qualcomm Snapdragon 660 SoC .The genuine Vertu Aster P runs on Android 9.0 Pie, which is what this clone should have really come with, being a late 2019 phone and to stay true to the genuine Vertu. Trouble is, being a Chinese replica, and having an MTK SoC, there is no support for it. The manufacturers refuse to provide me with the kernel source code, so I'm at a dead end in terms of any Android development.
One thing I did notice is that the 'Device Info' app shows the device as being a 'gionee6755_66_m'. See the second attachment that I've uploaded. Does this mean anything to anyone? Is it the model of a specific Gionee handset? Could this be a clue as to what the Chinese clone makers based this phone off? If so, I do know of a few threads here and there on XDA related to Gionee development.
Also, in the third screenshot attachment that I've uploaded, you can see that the icons for data connection and aeroplane mode are rubbing up against each other, suggesting that someone has made a 'quick and dirty' fix to try and get both of the icons to fit the width of this phone's screen. Which also might suggest that this ROM was actually pulled from another device. Any thoughts?
Chris
@chris8189
Note that you on every Android device can fake its brand and/or model: you can even make it think to be an Apple iPhone 11 Pro. You also can fake its version of Android OS. What you can't (easily) change are descriptions of installed hardware components .
So one can't really say your device is a Vertu Aster P or Gionee6755_66_m or whatever.
What I think happened is that you got screwed.
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@chris8189
Note that you on every Android device can fake its brand and/or model: you can even make it think to be an Apple iPhone 11 Pro. You also can fake its version of Android OS. What you can't (easily) change are descriptions of installed hardware components .
So one can't really say your device is a Vertu Aster P or Gionee6755_66_m or whatever.
What I think happened is that you got screwed.
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I wasn't 'screwed' as such. That's a bit of a crass term. The device is of premium quality, feels as heavy as a genuine Vertu and really does look the part. And it performs perfectly fine on Android 6.0. The phone is fast and responsive and does whatever I need it to do.
That said, it wouldn't have caused them any more distress in putting Android 9.0 onto this phone. The MT6755 Helio P10 chipset that this clone has is more than capable of running 9.0. Why they didn't is a mystery to me.
Hi,
I own the Teclast P10HD https://www.teclast.com/en/zt/P10HD/
I want to root it, and if possible install Android 10, I have searched the forums but found nothing about it (There's a thread about the older P10 which has different hardware).
Any help is highly appreciated.
I've been trying to root the device but traditional methods don't work as the boot partition can't be unlocked, also the key method used for other devices made by the same chipset manufacturer doesn't work either. There's a flashing tool provided by the manufacturer but it only works on Windows and I don't own a copy so I couldn't try it. Let's hope someone is able to unlock the device as the hardware is pretty decent
This device has something odd.
Antutu reports the same speed of a mate pad t8 and many other tablets, but it's not very responsive.
I think android is not very optimized for this unisoc, what do you think?
It get much nicer with poco launcher and mi camera but still it looks a bit slow for a 2020 device
suoko said:
This device has something odd.
Antutu reports the same speed of a mate pad t8 and many other tablets, but it's not very responsive.
I think android is not very optimized for this unisoc, what do you think?
It get much nicer with poco launcher and mi camera but still it looks a bit slow for a 2020 device
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you need to bear in mind that it has only 3 GB RAM, which is not ideal for a 2020 android device. I use it mainly for internet relating activities and social network apps. I installed some lite games and they work fine. Given its extremely low price, its value is good.
Did you manage to find any custom ROM that works on it?
EstrellaAzul said:
I've been trying to root the device but traditional methods don't work as the boot partition can't be unlocked, also the key method used for other devices made by the same chipset manufacturer doesn't work either. There's a flashing tool provided by the manufacturer but it only works on Windows and I don't own a copy so I couldn't try it. Let's hope someone is able to unlock the device as the hardware is pretty decent
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Try this
https://www.getdroidtips.com/root-teclast-p10-hd/
ghassan haddad said:
you need to bear in mind that it has only 3 GB RAM, which is not ideal for a 2020 android device. I use it mainly for internet relating activities and social network apps. I installed some lite games and they work fine. Given its extremely low price, its value is good.
Did you manage to find any custom ROM that works on it?
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The mate pad has 2gb so that's not the question.
The p10hd can run everything, it gives no problems but generally speaking it is not that fluid.
I know Huawei or xiaomi can probably add some optimizations here and there, maybe a version 10 of android and a teclast custom launcher could help it. Let's see if they prefer to launch new devices or are now working on those they already produce to experiment a bit.
However, unisoc is pretty good, now that chromeos is getting lighter, it would be nice to see it on this soc
suoko said:
unisoc is pretty good, now that chromeos is getting lighter, it would be nice to see it on this soc
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Sorry but I didn't get this line. What is Unisoc? and what does chromium have to do with it?
By the way, does Teclast usually upgrade the software or are we gonna stuck to what we got?
ghassan haddad said:
Sorry but I didn't get this line. What is Unisoc? and what does chromium have to do with it?
By the way, does Teclast usually upgrade the software or are we gonna stuck to what we got?
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No idea on teclast upgrade policies but I guess we're OK considering that m16 is still on android 8.
Unisoc is the cpu soc brand. It's quite cheap but not bad at all, I was only guessing how chromeos would run on it. Chromeos includes android and Linux apps, it's going to be an os we will find very often in the next years. I would try a color e-ink too in it, to make cheap long-lasting edu tools available to a huge lot of people: add the embedded 4g/5g connection support and you get wherever you want
https://forum.hovatek.com/thread-32287.html
Try this.
Hello,
There are sooo many Amazfit (Xiaomi?) watches avalaible and each model has even different versions which make it very hard for a newcomer to make choice.
I found a board comparing all of them.. But it's up to 2019 (beginning?), so a lot are missing. Also, they seem to have different names depending on the country..!
GTR, GTS... What is it called in China?! I want one that's Android based (so i can get custom roms, install apks..) and i'd like it to have speaker/mic, as well as non proprietary straps.
The Verge's the only one that fits (not for the straps though) according to that 2019 board but maybe one of the most recent one would fit..? Let me know!
Thanks.
Forget it.
Those with android have a "special" Android version where you have a very limited amount of working apps. ( and not wear ).
And as it is closed, and for a MIPS processor you will find no real custom rom.
Speaker/mic ? Why?
Stratos
dersie said:
Stratos
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He wants with ? and ? . Verge is the only offering from Amazfit while you can talk to Watch.
Stratos is for sports users.
T-Rex - for men with khaki who think they are tough
GTS - fashion Watch (period)
GTR - for men on suits
Pace - for sports enthusiasts people
BIP - for people looking for minimalist design and options
Rest are more dear than alive
fzelle said:
Forget it.
Those with android have a "special" Android version where you have a very limited amount of working apps. ( and not wear ).
And as it is closed, and for a MIPS processor you will find no real custom rom.
Speaker/mic ? Why?
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But the pace and stratos (this thread is for them) also have that same Android as the verge.. isn't it?! No real custom ROMs.. are you saying those running huamiOS like the BIP got real cf?! I don't get you there!!
iyengar said:
He wants with and . Verge is the only offering from Amazfit while you can talk to Watch.
Stratos is for sports users.
T-Rex - for men with khaki who think they are tough
GTS - fashion Watch (period)
GTR - for men on suits
Pace - for sports enthusiasts people
BIP - for people looking for minimalist design and options
Rest are more dear than alive
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Sounds like a commercial man.. the last 3, on
Which OS do they run?