doubts regarding flashing, twrp, forced encryption disabler, restoring twrp backup - Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers

Hi guys. I want to flash pixel experience rom on my poco f1. But the problem is i cannot find an updated thread. Some threads are mentioning to flash forced encryption disabler and some are not. Some are saying to flash orangefox instead of twrp. And one things is that many are reporting that they cannot restore the twrp backup of the miui 10. Since i bought the phone from india and i am working abroad where there is no xiaomi service available, i cannot afford a locked out device. And also this is my only phone that i use for personal and work related matters. I am on latest miui 10.3.5 global stable version and rooted with magisk using twrp hot boot method.
So it will be really awesome if some one update me with latest procedure for flashing pixel rom and please tell me if i can revert back to miui using twrp backup? I miss the stock android that much.
Thanks in advance. ?

Jerryxl said:
Hi guys. I want to flash pixel experience rom on my poco f1. But the problem is i cannot find an updated thread. Some threads are mentioning to flash forced encryption disabler and some are not. Some are saying to flash orangefox instead of twrp. And one things is that many are reporting that they cannot restore the twrp backup of the miui 10. Since i bought the phone from india and i am working abroad where there is no xiaomi service available, i cannot afford a locked out device. And also this is my only phone that i use for personal and work related matters. I am on latest miui 10.3.5 global stable version and rooted with magisk using twrp hot boot method.
So it will be really awesome if some one update me with latest procedure for flashing pixel rom and please tell me if i can revert back to miui using twrp backup? I miss the stock android that much.
Thanks in advance.
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Well flashing the rom is simple; since you are already on latest miui, there's no need to flash vendor-firmware separately. Just flash the rom and magisk if needed. There's no harm in flashing Dfe but its optional since latest twrp including ofx, pitch black, etc reads encryption. just make sure to remove your pin/fingerprints and both google and mi accounts before flashing other roms; just to be on the safe side. i havent tried restoring backups but i think latest twrps have fixed that issue. anyway if u want to get back to miui you can download full rom and flash it through twrp. always backup your imp datas

suritsuwal said:
Well flashing the rom is simple; since you are already on latest miui, there's no need to flash vendor-firmware separately. Just flash the rom and magisk if needed. There's no harm in flashing Dfe but its optional since latest twrp including ofx, pitch black, etc reads encryption. just make sure to remove your pin/fingerprints and both google and mi accounts before flashing other roms; just to be on the safe side. i havent tried restoring backups but i think latest twrps have fixed that issue. anyway if u want to get back to miui you can download full rom and flash it through twrp. always backup your imp datas
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Thanks mate.... Understood very well. Is there a flashable zip file for miui global stable version or xiaomi.eu roms are the only option??

Jerryxl said:
Thanks mate.... Understood very well. Is there a flashable zip file for miui global stable version or xiaomi.eu roms are the only option??
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yes, there are flashable zips for miui global stables/ betas as well

Jerryxl said:
Hi guys. I want to flash pixel experience rom on my poco f1. But the problem is i cannot find an updated thread. Some threads are mentioning to flash forced encryption disabler and some are not. Some are saying to flash orangefox instead of twrp. And one things is that many are reporting that they cannot restore the twrp backup of the miui 10. Since i bought the phone from india and i am working abroad where there is no xiaomi service available, i cannot afford a locked out device. And also this is my only phone that i use for personal and work related matters. I am on latest miui 10.3.5 global stable version and rooted with magisk using twrp hot boot method.
So it will be really awesome if some one update me with latest procedure for flashing pixel rom and please tell me if i can revert back to miui using twrp backup? I miss the stock android that much.
Thanks in advance. ?
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1. FED was used to disable the "Forced encryption". Most recoveries now support decryption. Although encryption is almost useless after unlocking the bootloader but you'll still find some lazy ass people like me who are still encrypted. If you like to disable encryption, just remember to flash FED whenever you flash a new vendor and or any ROM that comes with an inbuilt vendor (MIUI stock), otherwise your storage will be encrypted again.
2. Most recoveries here including orange fox are custom versions of TWRP. The recovery version one wants depends on the user preferences and the "extra" features available in some recoveries.
3. Nandroid backups work fine but you'll need to backup and restore "IMAGE BACKUPS" instead of the old classic backups. Backing up and restoring old classic backups ends in a bootloop due to verified boot.

I have the same questions as well. I'm about to upgrade my Redmi Note 7 to Poco F1.
Since the Poco F1 is a couple months old, there might be some changes on the method when flashing TWRP and custom ROMS. On my Redmi Note 7, I just flashed Orange Fox recovery and removed my PIN and pattern before flashing the custom recovery, then wiped data and internal storage.
The community suggests Orange Fox recovery because of its stability, other unofficial TWRP had too many bugs.
I didn't encountered the "encryption" scenario when after booting your device, the system will ask for the PIN and no matter what you entered, it won't accept it. I didn't even flash any forced encryption disabler on my Redmi Note 7 and didn't face any issues so far.
So my question is, is the Orange Fox recovery the best recovery for Poco F1? Do I have to flash the forced encryption disabler thing?
I understand that I have to wipe data(this includes wiping the internal storage-photos,videos and music) It doesn't really matter to me because I already saved my important files on my laptop.

RebornCheiko said:
I have the same questions as well. I'm about to upgrade my Redmi Note 7 to Poco F1.
Since the Poco F1 is a couple months old, there might be some changes on the method when flashing TWRP and custom ROMS. On my Redmi Note 7, I just flashed Orange Fox recovery and removed my PIN and pattern before flashing the custom recovery, then wiped data and internal storage.
The community suggests Orange Fox recovery because of its stability, other unofficial TWRP had too many bugs.
I didn't encountered the "encryption" scenario when after booting your device, the system will ask for the PIN and no matter what you entered, it won't accept it. I didn't even flash any forced encryption disabler on my Redmi Note 7 and didn't face any issues so far.
So my question is, is the Orange Fox recovery the best recovery for Poco F1? Do I have to flash the forced encryption disabler thing?
I understand that I have to wipe data(this includes wiping the internal storage-photos,videos and music) It doesn't really matter to me because I already saved my important files on my laptop.
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If you are prepared to wipe/format data if required, then there is no need for DFE.

@tnsmani @RebornCheiko
Hi i am still on global 10.3.5 stable, rooted with magisk and twrp is not installed (only hot booted).
1. Can i just flash dfe on my current rom (because somebody said it will increase the performance)
2 what about ota update? If i just flash dfe Will it ask for any pin after doing ota update?? Or i can just update and then flash dfe again
3. Also i have one doubt. i flashed pixel rom few days back (just after creating this thread ?) and i decided to revert back to miui. So i restored my twrp backup of miui and got bootloop (only just now i found out you saying about the "image backup"). Then i flashed the 10.3.5 zip and vendr/firmware also. But after booting it asked me for pin. i had to fastboot flash the rom again. It wiped all my data. So what did i do wrong here. And if resotre miui using backed up image do i need to flash dfe??. Coz its really difficult to back up all the data in my phone every time i flash a rom. Thats holding me back from enjoying the custom roms. So any clarification would be highly appreciated. Thanks

I probably flash a different ROM / kernel combination every single day. Sometimes more than once a day. Right now I am on the latest unofficial LineageOS, with Optimus Drunk kernel and Pico Gapps. Sometimes I don't flash Gapps at all and go Googleless. I know, scary eh?
I only use one sim card so I have a 64gb SD card in the other slot. On that card I have a folder that contains copies of the latest versions of my favourite firmwares, ROMs, kernels, mods and backups.
I do a clean wipe each and every time I flash. I first format the data partition, then wipe all other partitions except the micro SD card and the OTG option.
Then I reboot back into recovery so the system has access again to the data partition.
Then I select my SD card and flash, in this order:
1) Firmware (only if changing to a different version).
2) ROM (if flashing MIUI, don't flash firmware, its included)
3) Magisk, always.
4) Kernel (flash after Magisk because some kernels want Magisk available during the flash)
5) Gapps, or sometimes MicroG (from Nanodroid)
6) additional mods
7) Backup file (from Migrate app)
I always make sure to backup data, photos etc either to my SD card or to a cloud service. I stopped using Titanium Backup when Migrate came out. It creates a nice flashable zipfile backup of apps, the apps data and permissions.
I can change ROMs, and be back up and running in 10 minutes like this. Its a real addiction! Lol. It satisfies my little OCD.
DFE (Disable Forced Encryption) is completely optional. In fact, I only ever flash it when I flash ViperOS because if I don't, encryption fails every time.
You aren't going to notice a difference in overall speed whether you're encrypted or not. I allow the encryption process to happen because I'm a human being with occassionally irrational feelings. For me, if my ROM has encrypted my data and SELinux is enforcing, I feel safer, even though its probably just placebo.
As far as ROMs go, PE is nice. Its got all the things most people need and its pretty solid and bug free. My personal preference goes with SiberiaOS, RevengeOS, LineageOS or if I'm feeling like MIUI, I go with MI-Globe version and remove all the optional apps and services removed (wish they also had an option to disclude Gapps) using their ROM Builder.
I hope this helps a bit.
Most of the time it comes down to trial and error really. Try all the ROMs and kernels and mods. There are lots of great combinations out there. Our development community is pretty good!

BentMetal said:
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I can change ROMs, and be back up and running in 10 minutes like this. Its a real addiction! Lol. It satisfies my little OCD.
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I can understand brother.... Back in the days i was also like this. Testing roms and kernels every day. But now I don't have time for any of this. And you are right about addiction and It's definitely an OCD. I can relate.

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Redmi 3 back to global MIUI

Hello, I would like to ask for some information.
Im currently running Stock Android 6.0 on my Redmi3, but I would like to get back to global, stable miui 8. Since I have trwp installed and everyting... How do I install miui again now? Should I do trough fastboot and flash with MiFlash? If it will work, wont TWRP delete?
Reason behind me wanting to get back is stable rom. Im bored of crashes bugs and etc, also I want to recieve updates automaticly witouth doing factory resets and all nonsene..
i wanted to go back to Miui & used miflash
i lost everything including files on internal sd so backup before flash anything
i tried to use twrp but phone couldn't boot
Pauliens said:
Hello, I would like to ask for some information.
Im currently running Stock Android 6.0 on my Redmi3, but I would like to get back to global, stable miui 8. Since I have trwp installed and everyting... How do I install miui again now? Should I do trough fastboot and flash with MiFlash? If it will work, wont TWRP delete?
Reason behind me wanting to get back is stable rom. Im bored of crashes bugs and etc, also I want to recieve updates automaticly witouth doing factory resets and all nonsene..
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You should do trough fastboot and flash with MiFlash, but do backup before flash anything first..:good:
About TWRP, you might be lost that thing.. But of course you just installed back again
.. CMiiW ..
manomi said:
i wanted to go back to Miui & used miflash
i lost everything including files on internal sd so backup before flash anything
i tried to use twrp but phone couldn't boot
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That why we have to do a clean installed...

PLEASE HELP ME ( COFFACE TWRP VS Alka TWRP )

Hi ! all ,
i just unlock bootloader offically. now i m confused between these two TWRP. i just want to flash cm based roms as well as revert back to miui roms without any problem. also want to backup my rom & flash through twrp if ever i stuck on boot logo. i mean i dont wanna use fastboot method to flash miui roms everytime . i jsut want to simply revert back to current rom or flash any rom through TWRP. so tell me which is best for me & give me instruction & file link also
Thanks in advance
COFFACE and Alka are really meant for MIUI but I think you can flash CM, never tried it though, I always use official TWRP. then again, I never backup ROMs. I use titanium backup.
zooreo said:
Hi ! all ,
i just unlock bootloader offically. now i m confused between these two TWRP. i just want to flash cm based roms as well as revert back to miui roms without any problem. also want to backup my rom & flash through twrp if ever i stuck on boot logo. i mean i dont wanna use fastboot method to flash miui roms everytime . i jsut want to simply revert back to current rom or flash any rom through TWRP. so tell me which is best for me & give me instruction & file link also
Thanks in advance
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i use alka with resurrection remix rom. but i have to admit that i did backups but never tried to restore them because there are no guids how to do so on the redmi note 3 pro. because at some roms it seems you have to deselect system partition restore to get a working restore of a backup.
so ... flashing CM or resurrection remix is no problem with alka twrp ... restoring i never tried
I personally prefer Cofface patched by feds64 with which you don't have encryption related problems. I have upgraded and downgraded multiple times in MIUI (dev/stable/miui7/miui8/M/L) and other custom ROMs; and have even restored MIUI and other custom ROM's backup. No issue yet.
You can get it from HERE.
h0LLe said:
i use alka with resurrection remix rom. but i have to admit that i did backups but never tried to restore them because there are no guids how to do so on the redmi note 3 pro. because at some roms it seems you have to deselect system partition restore to get a working restore of a backup.
so ... flashing CM or resurrection remix is no problem with alka twrp ... restoring i never tried
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Thanx brother
sasukay said:
I personally prefer Cofface patched by feds64 with which you don't have encryption related problems. I have upgraded and downgraded multiple times in MIUI (dev/stable/miui7/miui8/M/L) and other custom ROMs; and have even restored MIUI and other custom ROM's backup. No issue yet.
You can get it from HERE.
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Thank you bro but i cant get it properly , i mean i m currently on official TWRP now what next? first to flash cofface recovery and then do mentioned ( link ) step?? or directly Go to this step without installing cofface first?? i m currently on miui 8 ( lollipop 5.1 ).
zooreo said:
Thank you bro but i cant get it properly , i mean i m currently on official TWRP now what next?
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Bro just DOWNLOAD THIS ZIP, connect your phone with usb debugging on and run "Kenzo_MM_TWRP.bat" and follow the steps to flash twrp.

Install MIUI using TWRP

I was wondering if is possible to install MIUI using TWRP. A new MIUI update came out today. It's the Global BETA ROM and I'm currently using the STABLE Global ROM 8.2.5.0.
Is it possible to install that update (the whole ROM, not just the update) with TWRP? If so, what process should I follow?
And another question. If I install Resurrection Remix ROM (I want to try it to see how is the RAM management and the battery life) and want to go back to MIUI could I just restore the MIUI nandroid backup? Or would be there a problem with that, because I've seen some people saying the can't restore the backup.
Thanks in advance.
Isley_ said:
I was wondering if is possible to install MIUI using TWRP. A new MIUI update came out today. It's the Global BETA ROM and I'm currently using the STABLE Global ROM 8.2.5.0.
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Yes it is possible to install recovery ROM through TWRP. But I suggest to flash fastboot ROM if you want to migrate from stable to beta (developer) ROM, and vice versa.
Isley_ said:
Is it possible to install that update (the whole ROM, not just the update) with TWRP? If so, what process should I follow?
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To update the whole ROM, you need to download the full pack version of the recovery ROM, as long as the old ROM and the new ones is at the same type; e.g. global stable over global stable, global beta over global beta, etc. Don't mix on different types otherwise you may get problems later such as bootloop.
Isley_ said:
And another question. If I install Resurrection Remix ROM (I want to try it to see how is the RAM management and the battery life) and want to go back to MIUI could I just restore the MIUI nandroid backup? Or would be there a problem with that, because I've seen some people saying the can't restore the backup.
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As long as you're not modify the partition info (name, type, length, etc) you shouldn't ended with backup restoration failures. Make a full Wipe if you intend to install a new custom ROM through TWRP. Use download only (no formatting) if flashing custom ROM through fastboot/download mode.
Devaz01 said:
Yes it is possible to install recovery ROM through TWRP. But I suggest to flash fastboot ROM if you want to migrate from stable to beta (developer) ROM, and vice versa.
To update the whole ROM, you need to download the full pack version of the recovery ROM, as long as the old ROM and the new ones is at the same type; e.g. global stable over global stable, global beta over global beta, etc. Don't mix on different types otherwise you may get problems later such as bootloop.
As long as you're not modify the partition info (name, type, length, etc) you shouldn't ended with backup restoration failures. Make a full Wipe if you intend to install a new custom ROM through TWRP. Use download only (no formatting) if flashing custom ROM through fastboot/download mode.
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Thanks a lot for the responses. If I want to install the GLOBAL Beta release (coming from the Global Stable) through fastboot can I select the option to keep all my data or is it better to do a clean install?
Isley_ said:
Thanks a lot for the responses. If I want to install the GLOBAL Beta release (coming from the Global Stable) through fastboot can I select the option to keep all my data or is it better to do a clean install?
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Although you can untick/exclude "data" and "cache" partition images from flashed ROM file, it is highly recommended if you do clean install, since beta and stable may came from different builds. And yes that's mean factory reset— you've lost all settings as well as installed apps, but files stored on internal storage are kept (unless you decide to wipe or format it, which is a rare decision).

[SOLVED] TWRP Error 7 on flashing OS

Help!
I'm trying out a series of ROMs and now am faced with a puzzle. After wiping CM13 (system and all), I'm trying to flash an @amaces AOSP Marshmallow build, but TWRP is giving me grief saying it can't flash an older OS over a newer one.
It says the previous CM13 OS was dated 2017 (I don't think so....) while the one I am trying to flash is dated 2016 (yes, the @amaces ROM was posted in 2016).
So...I thought I had truly wiped the system. How can it know anything about a "previous" ROM?
Edit: Ugh. So I think this is because the CM12 and CM13 ROMs changed the partition table? Or they changed something and I need to get back to stock. Unfortunately my stock backup is gone (8gb). I've looked at all the various restores and they rely on files that no longer exist or are behind so many layers of pop-ups and -unders that it doesn't seem safe to wait and hope the download will eventually start. Succulent has a series of flashable zips to "restore" a tablet to stock, but if there has been a partition change, will his zips fix that?! I have the nooktablet_1_4_3_update.zip, but have no idea if that is even useful. It certainly can't be flashed with CWM or TWRP.
Edit-Edit: OK, I learned something(s). Apparently the issue was the version of TWRP I was using. I tried an older version and I was able to flash one of @amaces ROMs, but I also did manage to take the tablet back to stock using nooktablet_1_4_3_update.zip. It turns out that you can't flash that successfully with TWRP--at least not the versions I had. But I did have CWM 6.0.5.1 from succulent as altboot on my SD card. That was able to flash the zip and restore to stock. Good to know since everything else is gone. And, yes this time I also made a CWM stock backup and put it somewhere safe

Can't go back to MIUI based custom ROMs

Hi guys, so I were using Pie Roms and I want to go back to MIUI based custom ROMs, which is Masik X. But it said I have to format my phone, then I format it then install it again. This time it didn't detect my sim card. I have encounter this before and flashing a near stock ROM like Xiaomi.eu worked last time. But it doesnt work this time, instead the flashing just take a super long time it won't end. So basically I can't flash or boot MIUI based custom ROMs. And when i managed to flash it, it always told me to activate my device, which is hard if it didn't detect my sim card because the wifi at my dorm needs to login at the login page first. Thanks for the help!
format and flash the latest firmware zip and try again.
also if you have twrp back up of miui rom try restoring it

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