Hello,
I rooted my ATT SG2 some time ago and i tried a few of the popular ROMs. After trying them i went back to the original ATT ROM as it is a very good ROM.
Some time last week i got a message saying there is a new update for me to install, my question is, if i do the update will i lose root?, will i need to redo everything i did to root my phone without affecting the flash counter? or just the root part??
Thanks
PToN22 said:
Hello,
I rooted my ATT SG2 some time ago and i tried a few of the popular ROMs. After trying them i went back to the original ATT ROM as it is a very good ROM.
Some time last week i got a message saying there is a new update for me to install, my question is, if i do the update will i lose root?, will i need to redo everything i did to root my phone without affecting the flash counter? or just the root part??
Thanks
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I believe the OTA update will remove root, but doing the update won't increase flash counter. But in order to get root back, you must follow the same steps you did to ensure you don't trip the counter.
You're the first person I've heard who likes the stock ATT Rom w/ Root (not touched at all).
My assumption is yes, you will lose root. Can anyone confirm this?
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I was unable to apply the update with a rooted device.
I installed the image from this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1381497
having trouble getting root with superoneclick (must be forgetting something)
Hi everyone, I have a quick question. I am currently running Stock ICS rooted with Safestrap 3.11 installed. Can I perform the OTA JB 98.72.16.en. update? I know I should use OTA Rootkeeper to temp unroot before attempting to upgrade. Then restore root after upgrading via the saved backup. Yesterday I tried to install the update but it failed at some point during the process. I did not have Safestrap installed at that time. Not sure if there was something wrong with the downloaded update or not, but I don't want to try again until I know it will work and not screw anything up. Has anyone else updated to JB using OTA from a rooted Stock ICS ROM? If someone can point me to a detailed procedure that would be great. Thanks
I actually just did the same thing. Just beware, the kernel upgrades with the OTA as well, so if you're running any custom ROMS, they may not work with the new update. In order to perform the OTA update, you should unfreeze any bloatware apps you may have frozen with TItanium Backup. I also used Voodoo's OTA Rootkeeper and maintained root without a problem, although I've heard mixed things. I left Safestrap installed when I upgraded, but I don't know if that was a good idea or not.
I actually had problems upgrading with safe strap installed. Gave me a failed update 3 times until I finally un installed. Flashed fine after that. Safe strap does indeed work after for me. That is with the official cm10.1 nightly rom. So far so good. Still dual booting on a phone with a locked bootloader. Ha...
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immikevalentino said:
I actually just did the same thing. Just beware, the kernel upgrades with the OTA as well, so if you're running any custom ROMS, they may not work with the new update. In order to perform the OTA update, you should unfreeze any bloatware apps you may have frozen with TItanium Backup. I also used Voodoo's OTA Rootkeeper and maintained root without a problem, although I've heard mixed things. I left Safestrap installed when I upgraded, but I don't know if that was a good idea or not.
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UrbanDroid said:
I actually had problems upgrading with safe strap installed. Gave me a failed update 3 times until I finally un installed. Flashed fine after that. Safe strap does indeed work after for me. That is with the official cm10.1 nightly rom. So far so good. Still dual booting on a phone with a locked bootloader. Ha...
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So uninstalling Safestrap might be the best bet. I am running a rooted Stock OTA ICS ROM, nothing special, just what came from Verizon. I actually started with Gingerbread 2.3.6, rooted that, and when ICS came along, I did the OTA after temp unrooting with OTA Rootkeeper. Been running that since. Now I just recently got the message on my Razr that JB is available. I tried updating but it failed. I think the download might have been corrupted or something. I redownloaded the update earlier today but have put off updating until posting on here. So i guess I will uninstall SS and then try the update again and hope I keep root. Then reinstall SS after that. If anyone else has any input or ideas please feel free to post your methods and results.
Anyone else have any experience performing the OTA update to JB or installing Stock Verizon JB in some other fashion. I would like to hear about it as I am still a little unsure about performing this update and don't want to lose root priviledges. Thanks.
Well I just tried to perform the OTA JB update again and it failed again. I temp unrooted using Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper, set SuperUser to OTA Survival, rebooted my phone, and then attempted the update to JB and about 1 minute into the process it craps out and gives the triangle exclaimation point and then reboots 30 seconds later. Nothing seems broken, its right back to my Stock verizon ICS 6.16.211.XT912. Of course I am rooted but as i stated in a previous post, I have been rooted since GB 2.3.6 and was able to perform the update to ICS using the same method I tried here for JB. What gives? Is anyone else having these issues. I have seen on other forums something called the DroidRazrUtility which is supposed to update you to JB and provide root if needed. Is this the only option for me? Also if I perform a factory reset will that screw my phone up since it is rooted? Will I lose root if I factory reset it? Will a factory reset then allow me to update to JB with ease? Lots of questions but I want to be sure of what I am doing. Any help is much appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Tried two more times and the update failed each time. I think I am going to try a factory reset and see what that does. As a note I did have CWM Touch 5.8.4.5 installed with ROM Manager but uninstalled both and also had Safestrap after that and I made sure I removed that too. Unless I didn't get it all removed. Is there a procedure to ensure they have been fully removed?
For those of you who are having touble getting JB to load on your XT912 Razr, use the following script by Developer mattlgroff. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2192467
Follow the instructions as he says to and it works perfect, to include rerooting using the Razr Blade script. Be sure to not only thank him but donate if you can. Developers like this are a life saver to all us that rely on them to provide us the freedom we deserve on our mobile devices. I spent 2 days doing everything I knew how to do to get JB installed and all to no avail. Used mattlgroff's Droid Razr Utility and life is once again good.
I have a rooted Razr Maxx and can not get the update to work. It has failed 3 times now. Any suggestions?
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lockg300 said:
I have a rooted Razr Maxx and can not get the update to work. It has failed 3 times now. Any suggestions?
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use the link in the post right above yours
Should I do a backup first? If so what is the best for that?
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I rooted my phone just for the sole purpose of using wifitether and kept the stock rom. I didn't use the wire trick, so I don't think I fully rooted it? Any case, I have a notification to do an OTA system update and I'm afraid to do it since I have the phone exactly how I want it.
If I don't need to update, how do I hide the notification? What does the update do?
Thanks!
big irn said:
I rooted my phone just for the sole purpose of using wifitether and kept the stock rom. I didn't use the wire trick, so I don't think I fully rooted it? Any case, I have a notification to do an OTA system update and I'm afraid to do it since I have the phone exactly how I want it.
If I don't need to update, how do I hide the notification? What does the update do?
Thanks!
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OTA's require the stock recovery so you can't apply them when rooted. You didn't say which model (Sprint or VM) and that makes a difference.
For Sprint you can backup your apps, data and settings then relock the bootloader, flash the RUU and OTA, install a custom recovery and restore your backups. That will give you the updated firmware and stock ROM from the March OTA. In addition to the firmware updates, the ROM changes include the Sprint connection optimizer and some fixes for other software.
If you are a VM user and haven't installed the March OTA you can still use the above sequence but then you won't be able to flash the RUU if you decide to get S-OFF so you should do that first if you have any plans for it. After flashing the RUU there will be two OTA updates (November and March) to apply for the stock configuration.
ramjet73
As per the title, I read something somewhere to the effect that from here on out, OTA updates will fail on most phones if they have been rooted, and this seems to be true for the Z Ultra GPE. So, what changed when I rooted my phone, and how do I undo it so that I can do the OTA update? I have looked through the forum, but nobody seems to answer it. I am rooted with Supersu using the Towelroot method. I am hoping to not have to unlock the bootloader or anything, just want to do this the official way. (I did backup my TA partition though).
jeraldjunkmail said:
As per the title, I read something somewhere to the effect that from here on out, OTA updates will fail on most phones if they have been rooted, and this seems to be true for the Z Ultra GPE. So, what changed when I rooted my phone, and how do I undo it so that I can do the OTA update? I have looked through the forum, but nobody seems to answer it. I am rooted with Supersu using the Towelroot method. I am hoping to not have to unlock the bootloader or anything, just want to do this the official way. (I did backup my TA partition though).
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If your GPe is rooted only, the OTA should install just fine. If you made any system changes, you'll need to revert those though. I ran the OTA while I was rooted and didn't have any problems.
Visa Declined said:
If your GPe is rooted only, the OTA should install just fine. If you made any system changes, you'll need to revert those though. I ran the OTA while I was rooted and didn't have any problems.
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Not so. See:
http://bgr.com/2014/11/14/android-5-0-lollipop-updates-and-root/
As mine is rooted, no dice, the OTA fails. So, how to unroot it so that the update takes?
jeraldjunkmail said:
Not so. See:
http://bgr.com/2014/11/14/android-5-0-lollipop-updates-and-root/
As mine is rooted, no dice, the OTA fails. So, how to unroot it so that the update takes?
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well at the moment that doesn't effect the GPe, and may never. There will have to be a system image flashed to put the block device in a known state before the new way could ever be used, and if there is a system.img we can always flash that to get the OTA to work... no big deal I don't think.
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Not so. See:
http://bgr.com/2014/11/14/android-5-0-lollipop-updates-and-root/
As mine is rooted, no dice, the OTA fails. So, how to unroot it so that the update takes?
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First of all, BGR is a garbage site, and I wouldn't believe anything they say, ever. Second, that article is talking about avoiding root AFTER Lollipop is installed.
Having root will not cause the OTA to fail. If your OTA is failing, it's because you made a system change on your device.
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If you were using Xposed, then that is more than likely why your OTA is failing.
What is Xposed? How would I check to see if it has affected my device? Only thing I did was Towelroot and running SuperSU. I may have done something to allow writing to the external SD card, but forget how I did that. I was intentionally trying to keep this phone basically stock so that it would easily update to Lolipop. I did a Titanium backup to the externalSD card and reset it to factory and the OTA update still fails though. I assume this was due to the fact that I rooted it. The bootloader is still unmodified, secureboot is still green - yes, lock state is locked. Only other thing I can think of is I installed an app that allowed me to set permissions by app (turn off location settings by app, etc) Sorry I can't give any more details than that...
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I may have done something to allow writing to the external SD card, but forget how I did that.
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jeraldjunkmail said:
Only other thing I can think of is I installed an app that allowed me to set permissions by app (turn off location settings by app, etc) Sorry I can't give any more details than that...
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If you can't figure out what system change you made to your phone, just factory reset it, and run the OTA again. There was multiple people(me included) that took the OTA successfully, our phones were rooted and SuperSU was installed.
Visa Declined said:
If you can't figure out what system change you made to your phone, just factory reset it, and run the OTA again. There was multiple people(me included) that took the OTA successfully, our phones were rooted and SuperSU was installed.
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As mentioned before, I factory reset this and wiped the cache from the stock recovery mode. Update won't take, stops shortly after it fails with "system update error". Since my last reset (been done a few times) it won't prompt me to get the OTA update, after my last reset last night. Any help is appreciated. Thanks!
{Damn thing won't work... (*&^&%^$$#}
jeraldjunkmail said:
As mentioned before, I factory reset this and wiped the cache from the stock recovery mode. Update won't take, stops shortly after it fails with "system update error". Since my last reset (been done a few times) it won't prompt me to get the OTA update, after my last reset last night. Any help is appreciated. Thanks!
{Damn thing won't work... (*&^&%^$$#}
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The only fail-safe way I can see is to:
root
back up TA
unlock BL
hotboot custom kernel with recovery
flash 4.4.2
OTA to 4.4.3
OTA to 4.4.4
root and restore TA if you want a working camera
OTA to 5.0
blueether said:
The only fail-safe way I can see is to:
root
back up TA
unlock BL
hotboot custom kernel with recovery
flash 4.4.2
OTA to 4.4.3
OTA to 4.4.4
root and restore TA if you want a working camera
OTA to 5.0
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As often happens, I sometimes see a solution I don't care to implement and begin to procrastinate. So, haven't looked at this problem for a while. I may have found the solution to my problems, but want to know if anyone has experience with it before proceeding. I re-installed superSU and went through the options. Buried in the options list is a box that offers "Full unroot, Cleanup for permanent unroot". What happens when I do this? does it just remove superSU or does it restore the phone back to factory status, before it was rooted? Thanks!
PS: @ blueether the solution is fine and I am sure it would work (I was going to go ahead with it until I saw that option in superSU), but have been hesitant to unlock the bootloader, etc, due to my unfamiliarity with hacking Sony products, and only want to do it as a last, final, no other option solution. Thanks for your help!
jeraldjunkmail said:
As often happens, I sometimes see a solution I don't care to implement and begin to procrastinate. So, haven't looked at this problem for a while. I may have found the solution to my problems, but want to know if anyone has experience with it before proceeding. I re-installed superSU and went through the options. Buried in the options list is a box that offers "Full unroot, Cleanup for permanent unroot". What happens when I do this? does it just remove superSU or does it restore the phone back to factory status, before it was rooted? Thanks!
PS: @ blueether the solution is fine and I am sure it would work (I was going to go ahead with it until I saw that option in superSU), but have been hesitant to unlock the bootloader, etc, due to my unfamiliarity with hacking Sony products, and only want to do it as a last, final, no other option solution. Thanks for your help!
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That's fine and I take no offence at you not wanting to unlock the BL.
I haven't tried the full unroot option in supersu so I'm not sure what the outcome is. One of the other GPe users care to comment?
Well, turns out that the solution to unrooting the phone is to install superSU and than look inthe settings. It will offer you an option to completely uninstall root. It did what it says, and than you can check it with a check root app from the market. It reports that the phone is not rooted. Now the question is, will it pick up the OTA update... No luck with that after a clean factory reset, so not sure what to do next.
2 questions: If I unrooted my phone, and it says it is unrooted, is this true, in the fullest extent? Does towelroot do anything more than adding some permissions ans the superuser file?
If the phone won't pick up the OTA update, why? What went wrong?
Thanks!
jeraldjunkmail said:
Well, turns out that the solution to unrooting the phone is to install superSU and than look inthe settings. It will offer you an option to completely uninstall root. It did what it says, and than you can check it with a check root app from the market. It reports that the phone is not rooted. Now the question is, will it pick up the OTA update... No luck with that after a clean factory reset, so not sure what to do next.
2 questions: If I unrooted my phone, and it says it is unrooted, is this true, in the fullest extent? Does towelroot do anything more than adding some permissions ans the superuser file?
If the phone won't pick up the OTA update, why? What went wrong?
Thanks!
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It sounds like the OTA is not being pushed at the moment/anymore. You could copy it to there the recovery can see it and manually install it
blueether said:
It sounds like the OTA is not being pushed at the moment/anymore. You could copy it to there the recovery can see it and manually install it
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Can you point me inthe right direction for instructions on this process? Thanks!
Visa Declined said:
First of all, BGR is a garbage site, and I wouldn't believe anything they say, ever. Second, that article is talking about avoiding root AFTER Lollipop is installed.
Having root will not cause the OTA to fail. If your OTA is failing, it's because you made a system change on your device.
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If you were using Xposed, then that is more than likely why your OTA is failing.
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Your post is two years ago but i think you can help me,there is a new update for my phone and i am rooted i also have xposed installed so this mean i cannot update my sytem? Do i need to uninstall xposed? Im on stock rom and with TWRP recovery it would be a big help if you reply thanks.