Moving Whatsapp to another (older) device for backup - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have a Samsung Galaxy S5 and three years worth of Whatsapp conversations. I saved the backup files from WhatsApp folder onto my computer, and did the Google Drive backup. I also used WhatsApp Viewer to save the chats onto my computer. It was unrooted so I used the Key DB Extractor to get the key. The biggest one with most messages only opens in txt format and crashes in html format, I assume because it's too big and the whole html file fails to load.
Now I got my Galaxy S5 rooted (for easier future chat exports through WhatsApp Viewer) and haven't reinstalled WhatsApp yet. I'd like to start fresh and decline the prompt to restore my root. However, before I do it, I was wondering if I can transfer this latest backup onto an older phone, an unrooted Samsung Galaxy Young 2. It's used but previous owner did factory reset. WhatsApp isn't installed on it yet. I wouldn't be using Whatsapp on two phones simultaneously, I'd use the Galaxy Young just for backup and would transfer the backup only once.
Is Galaxy Young too old to open such a huge backup file and/or to even run the latest version of WhatsApp?
What's the way to do it? I found this tutorial but it requires both phones to be rooted, and allows you to use Whatsapp on both, which is not what I need.
WhatsApp website says I should do this:
To restore a less recent local backup
Download a file manager app.
In the file manager app, navigate to sdcard/WhatsApp/Databases. If your data isn't stored on the SD card, you might see "internal storage" or "main storage" instead of sdcard.
Rename the backup file you want to restore from msgstore-YYYY-MM-DD.1.db.crypt12 to msgstore.db.crypt12. It's possible that an earlier backup may be on an earlier protocol, such as crypt9 or crypt10. Don't change the number of the crypt extension.
Uninstall and reinstall WhatsApp.
Tap restore when prompted.
I have the latest msgstore.db.crypt12 file, the SIM card my WhatsApp was used with, the msgstore.db file, the wa file and the key.
Will my current phone, Galaxy S5, give me issues when I try installing WhatsApp on it after I install it for backup onto Young 2?
Also, another question, how do I install WhatsApp on my rooted S5 onto the SD card and not internal memory?
Thank you for your help!

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Whatsapp backup without Gapps...

Hello,
My phone (redmi 6 pro) is rooted, I dont use Gapps and use all other social apps like fb, twitter and whatsapp without any issues.
The situation that i get stuck at is when I have to take the WHATSAPP BACKUP before installing custom rom.
Since i dont use gapps so i cant take backup at google drive, so i take manual backup of whole whatsapp folder to my sd card BUT after installing rom and whatsapp, when i run the app then whatsapp dont recognize sd card backup and I end up loosing my chats.
I also tried copying the sd card whatsapp folder to internal storage but no luck.
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Thanks,
bhavtosh76 said:
Hello,
My phone (redmi 6 pro) is rooted, I dont use Gapps and use all other social apps like fb, twitter and whatsapp without any issues.
The situation that i get stuck at is when I have to take the WHATSAPP BACKUP before installing custom rom.
Since i dont use gapps so i cant take backup at google drive, so i take manual backup of whole whatsapp folder to my sd card BUT after installing rom and whatsapp, when i run the app then whatsapp dont recognize sd card backup and I end up loosing my chats.
I also tried copying the sd card whatsapp folder to internal storage but no luck.
Please advise how can i retain the whatsapp backup in this situation?
Thanks,
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Always zip WhatsApp folder manually by rar app on phone or pc anytime you want to keep backup. After installing new rom or resetting phone restore back the WhatsApp folder using rar apk. This is the convenient way because I don't allow Google to backup my WhatsApp files. If your Sdcard hosting the WhatsApp folder is not corrupted, just zip the folder and unzip with rar app to the internal storage. But do that before you install WhatsApp apk, meaning the WhatsApp folder must be unzip first.
Use this rar app;
Thanks, i will surely try out this solution...
Out of curiosity, have u ever tried taking whatsapp backup with titanium and restoring it after installing new rom??
Skyhuppa said:
Always zip WhatsApp folder manually by rar app on phone or pc anytime you want to keep backup. After installing new rom or resetting phone restore back the WhatsApp folder using rar apk. This is the convenient way because I don't allow Google to backup my WhatsApp files. If your Sdcard hosting the WhatsApp folder is not corrupted, just zip the folder and unzip with rar app to the internal storage. But do that before you install WhatsApp apk, meaning the WhatsApp folder must be unzip first.
Use this rar app;
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bhavtosh76 said:
Thanks, i will surely try out this solution...
Out of curiosity, have u ever tried taking whatsapp backup with titanium and restoring it after installing new rom??
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Not tried titanium before.

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