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Hi,
I have read a great deal about Super AMOLED plus screens having the best blacks because they physically dont turn on the backlight, saving power.
Now i have noticed, When viewing a black screen in the dark, there is actually a fair bit of light leaking through. even though it is "black light" (like on an LCD)
Can anyone else confirm this, or explain it?
Thanks
Its as black as black can be for me.
jayquinten510 said:
Hi,
I have read a great deal about Super AMOLED plus screens having the best blacks because they physically dont turn on the backlight, saving power.
Now i have noticed, When viewing a black screen in the dark, there is actually a fair bit of light leaking through. even though it is "black light" (like on an LCD)
Can anyone else confirm this, or explain it?
Thanks
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Perhaps the black wallpaper is not a pure black, instead it's a combination of colours to make it appear black.
I really can't see it in mine, but I've always wondered about this when looking for a black wallpaper. It's actually hard trying to find the darkest black using a PC, and wondered how you can really tell, as all black wallpapers would be a combination of colours.
I think it would be great for the power saving on the SAMOLED screens if you had an option to select "no" wallpaper or colour, so the background would automatically not actually turn on, using zero power.
This would guarantee you are using the purest BLACK and ultimately ZERO power on the background of your SAMOLED screen.
How does my theory sound
No Wallpaper and Colors apps in the Market will do a pure black wallpaper.
Use a microscope. lol
Actually it is a nice way to do it. Go to hobby town or somewhere and get a cheapy 10.00 microscope and you can look at the actual pixels. Not only can it help you here, but its always rather interesting to see.
Also, keep in mind that even when black, it still does have a little power in it, even if very minute, and still allows light a little bit, even if just in very very very very very minute amounts.
Ohh! Someone else has this to!
What happens is if you look at a pure black in the dark yolu will see almost white / grey areas, and it is not the image it is the same for everything that is 100% black , but is less noticible when something else in on the display, I also have a dark spot in the center of mine when it's on min brightness, Might send to Samsung, Or ask Vodafone they seemed to have a dodgy batch of phones.. this will be my 3rd
So I think it's a defect? The first phone I had didn't do this
MacaronyMax said:
Ohh! Someone else has this to!
What happens is if you look at a pure black in the dark yolu will see almost white / grey areas, and it is not the image it is the same for everything that is 100% black , but is less noticible when something else in on the display, I also have a dark spot in the center of mine when it's on min brightness, Might send to Samsung, Or ask Vodafone they seemed to have a dodgy batch of phones.. this will be my 3rd
So I think it's a defect? The first phone I had didn't do this
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Im glad im not the only one!
Yeah, I already sent my first GS2 back for screen problems, I dont want to have to send it back again and live without it for another 3 weeks. Also, I have subsequently flashed custom roms, so I would prefer not to.
If it ends up breaking, I'll just get the screen replaced when it happens.
Instal lcd test from market. When you see black,its like the screen is off...try it...
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jayquinten510 said:
Im glad im not the only one!
Yeah, I already sent my first GS2 back for screen problems, I dont want to have to send it back again and live without it for another 3 weeks. Also, I have subsequently flashed custom roms, so I would prefer not to.
If it ends up breaking, I'll just get the screen replaced when it happens.
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Hmm, I just ordered a JIG thing to use to set my counter in download mode to 0, should be useful for other things too But as soon as this is herre I think I'm going to send it off I think, It can be annoying
claimui said:
No Wallpaper<snip> apps in the Market will do a pure black wallpaper.
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Excellent, thanks for the tip, it's as black as I'm going to get ;-)
Hello,
I have a best buy Wifi Flyer. The screen has a yellow tint on it. Super annoying and noticeable when you open the keyboard and compare to my Desire HD. Also noticeable when I go to google.com
To fix this I downloaded screen adjuster and set blue to 10, all others to zero.
Thats the setting I use, if anyone finds something better, let me know!
Don't know of anyone else that ever had this problem , but thanks for the info.
DigitalMD said:
Don't know of anyone else that ever had this problem , but thanks for the info.
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Yea, I don't know many ppl who have mentioned this. Hmm... I wonder if there are two diff screen manufactures for the Flyer like the Sensation :\
See the following for other references to yellow tint:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_3ebmLdc7Y
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20590649
The Video demonstrates the screens yellow tint. Very noticeable on the few flyers I have used/seen. Very annoying too...
Any how, will report back.
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Can someone do the following:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1131592
I have a Sharp panel. BTW... the 10blue might be too much, I readjusted to 5. Seems a bit better.
Maedhros said:
Can someone do the following:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1131592
I have a Sharp panel. BTW... the 10blue might be too much, I readjusted to 5. Seems a bit better.
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i did that and there was nothing in the output about PANEL_ID
i even emailed the result to myself so i can check it properly, no panel id type when using dmesg
Sorry...
Don't look for that exact phrase... Just search for "panel" There should only be 2 instances.
Maedhros said:
Just search for "panel" There should only be 2 instances.
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i did, i searched for panel/pan/sharp/ID...nothing, there was nothing there
Maedhros said:
Can someone do the following:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1131592
I have a Sharp panel. BTW... the 10blue might be too much, I readjusted to 5. Seems a bit better.
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I too have the Sharp panel.
I never really noticed it as being yellow, seems ok to me
n7of9 said:
i did, i searched for panel/pan/sharp/ID...nothing, there was nothing there
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Odd! maybe try restarting?
Kudzus said:
I too have the Sharp panel.
I never really noticed it as being yellow, seems ok to me
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Ah, well its noticeable when i read lol. Hence why I adjusted the blue color. Try it and tell me if its better or worse!
Maedhros said:
Odd! maybe try restarting?
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yeppers, that worked...i also have a Sharp panel
doesn't look yellow to me???
I have had that same yellow tint, but sort of got used to it. Seems like a lot of people don't mind it because it isn't necessarily a defect, just that the default settings are a more "warm" temperature as opposed to "cool". I think it is just a preference thing, but thanks for the info! I downloaded it, but can't get it to correct perfectly. And I need to set blue closer to +20 in order to get near the coloring of my macbook pro screen.
n7of9 said:
yeppers, that worked...i also have a Sharp panel
doesn't look yellow to me???
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haha, the pic isn't gonna show the yellow tint...it's the screen itselef that makes it have a tint
jayochs said:
haha, the pic isn't gonna show the yellow tint...it's the screen itselef that makes it have a tint
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lol...yes because, that would make sense
ghanada said:
I have had that same yellow tint, but sort of got used to it. Seems like a lot of people don't mind it because it isn't necessarily a defect, just that the default settings are a more "warm" temperature as opposed to "cool". I think it is just a preference thing, but thanks for the info! I downloaded it, but can't get it to correct perfectly. And I need to set blue closer to +20 in order to get near the coloring of my macbook pro screen.
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Oh wow +20 :O
+20 seems very blueish to me lol.
Anyone else have an opinion? I'd like to see what could eliminate the yellow... but haven't found a setting as of yet.
THANKS
This is the best tip ever !
Just one word . Thanks!
Anyone noticed that S3 when used with a black wallpaper, its not totally black? Seems that the backlight is still on for blacks compared to S2 which is totally black.
S3 seems kinda grey with black...almost LCD like kinda black.
Do have a try in a dark room. I was surprised. Maybe you too
Will be interested to try this, that slightly greyish hue to blacks was one of the things I disliked about the Nexus screen.
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I'll be happy with my screen...because it is beautiful and big.... sorry you guys need to find every reason to b*tch about an amazing phone ... I don't examine my phones screen while it shows complete white or black screens in the dark ... I use it and watch people marvel at it.
No one ever says to me, "that has a yellow tint to it from here"
Why do u guys constantly find things wrong with phones.. at this rate you'll never be happy.
Keep it Classy, Cali.
CoNsPiRiSiZe said:
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I'll be happy with my screen...because it is beautiful and big.... sorry you guys need to find every reason to b*tch about an amazing phone ... I don't examine my phones screen while it shows complete white or black screens in the dark ... I use it and watch people marvel at it.
No one ever says to me, "that has a yellow tint to it from here"
Why do u guys constantly find things wrong with phones.. at this rate you'll never be happy.
Keep it Classy, Cali.
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It's called being critical. There are a number of things I dislike about my One X. No phone is perfect and if we're not critical and express our dislikes, chances are HTC/Samsung may not fix them with software updates/newer models.
I'm more interested in the potential black clipping issues like on the Galaxy Note. That was unacceptable.
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thegregulator said:
It's called being critical. There are a number of things I dislike about my One X. No phone is perfect and if we're not critical and express our dislikes, chances are HTC/Samsung may not fix them with software updates/newer models.
I'm more interested in the potential black clipping issues like on the Galaxy Note. That was unacceptable.
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Hmm. Interesting. Thanks for putting it into perspective!
Keep it Classy, Cali.
mystifiyer said:
Anyone noticed that S3 when used with a black wallpaper, its not totally black? Seems that the backlight is still on for blacks compared to S2 which is totally black.
S3 seems kinda grey with black...almost LCD like kinda black.
Do have a try in a dark room. I was surprised. Maybe you too
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Amoleds don't have a backlight. Has Samsung toned down the black levels to alleviate black crush and clipping issues?
mystifiyer said:
Anyone noticed that S3 when used with a black wallpaper, its not totally black? Seems that the backlight is still on for blacks compared to S2 which is totally black.
S3 seems kinda grey with black...almost LCD like kinda black.
Do have a try in a dark room. I was surprised. Maybe you too
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Can you try the different display modes and see if it changes?
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The true test is to turn off the lights and pull up your contact list. The background should be as black as night. If it is, then your wallpaper isn't really black -- find a better one.
Baldilocks said:
The true test is to turn off the lights and pull up your contact list. The background should be as black as night. If it is, then your wallpaper isn't really black -- find a better one.
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same wallpaper dude. in fact, that is a transparent png. side by side comparison is that there is some sort of backlight in s3. s2 is completely black. Like I previously mentioned, its in a dark room.
g4rvd4 said:
Can you try the different display modes and see if it changes?
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can only test it after im home tonight.
just checking if anyone have the same experience.
Both my galaxy s and my s 2 never goes completely black if I watch them in complete darkness. Even when the phone is shutting down and doesn't display anything at all. And strangely enough they emit around the same brightness level. As the phones turn of completely, the hue disappears. Even black areas are being powered and I think it's by design. Or maybe slight component variations.
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My screen is flawed when completely black. There are some spots that does not work at all. Like there is ink dropped on the screen.
Anyone else has this?
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Laum said:
My screen is flawed when completely black. There are some spots that does not work at all. Like there is ink dropped on the screen.
Anyone else has this?
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Yup that's the same issue which seemingly all amoled displays have such as sgs2, nexus, note...
Laum said:
My screen is flawed when completely black. There are some spots that does not work at all. Like there is ink dropped on the screen.
Anyone else has this?
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Been using the phone for a week, haven't seen this yet.
I find the blacks to be amazing, better than any phone I have every seen honestly
varun124 said:
Been using the phone for a week, haven't seen this yet.
I find the blacks to be amazing, better than any phone I have every seen honestly
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Ok, thanks for that. My screen is most probably broken then although emahmood87 said that it could be a "feature".
I think that black level is not that great in SGS3 when used in dark room. TBH SGS1 had better blacks.
Laum said:
Ok, thanks for that. My screen is most probably broken then although emahmood87 said that it could be a "feature".
I think that black level is not that great in SGS3 when used in dark room. TBH SGS1 had better blacks.
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Hmm, thats +1 to my claim. Had S1 also. No problem with blacks. TBH, you cant really tell when there is light for normal usage. Just that when watch video, you notice gray instead of the usual expected black.
Laum said:
Ok, thanks for that. My screen is most probably broken then although emahmood87 said that it could be a "feature".
I think that black level is not that great in SGS3 when used in dark room. TBH SGS1 had better blacks.
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Do the following and u will see the blotches or black ink drops.
I posted this on the sgs 3 in pakistan thread and one person confirmed the issue :
"Download Paint Pro its free and open a black background which covers whole the screen and then go in a dark room.... Can u tell me if there are any black blotches on screen example the screen will be in two tones of black or is it perfect black... this was an issue with two sgs2 which i had and also with galaxy nexus... The resaon its an issue because when u r browsing the web say late at night with screen filter enabled u can actually see the black blotches...."
Secondly the issue was only in sgs 2, note and galaxy nexus...have owned all these mobile.. its not really a big issue just was annoying sometimes... sgs 1 had no such issue
emahmood87 said:
Do the following and u will see the blotches or black ink drops.
I posted this on the sgs 3 in pakistan thread and one person confirmed the issue :
"Download Paint Pro its free and open a black background which covers whole the screen and then go in a dark room.... Can u tell me if there are any black blotches on screen example the screen will be in two tones of black or is it perfect black... this was an issue with two sgs2 which i had and also with galaxy nexus... The resaon its an issue because when u r browsing the web say late at night with screen filter enabled u can actually see the black blotches...."
Secondly the issue was only in sgs 2, note and galaxy nexus...have owned all these mobile.. its not really a big issue just was annoying sometimes... sgs 1 had no such issue
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Yeah, I have only been using SGS1 so I haven't witnessed any of those "new" problems. I still might try to exchange this unit to a new one.
Laum said:
My screen is flawed when completely black. There are some spots that does not work at all. Like there is ink dropped on the screen.
Anyone else has this?
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I have this issue on my infuse. Most of them are about 1mm in diameter but the largest one is about 1cm in diameter. I contacted Samsung and they are going to take a look at it.
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Black Level? For what? GSMArena said that = 0. My S3 black display is fine but not perfect . Can not be perfect. Super Amoled = best black display.
Hi guys. First of all let me tell this is far the best Android phone ever had.
But....
This is the second GS3 I have, and both of them have that annoying yellow tint on whites. You can see clearly on whatsapp, web, mailing, whites plain backgrounds.
It's also hard to forget, because when I move the screen 15-20 degrees using it the whites magically became real white, perfect white.
A friend has the same issue with his GS3 but he told me he saw in a shop a GS3 with perfetc whites with no tint at all, white as ice.
With my previous GS2's had some very light blue tint that didn't annoyed me at all (insted, I liked that cold whites temperature).
Tried screen adjuster but dind't help
Any of you guys experienced that?
Cheers.
No yellow tint here. Mine is bluish tint. Love the blue tint though.
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Try the yellow tint post same question last month .
jje
Let's just say that the type of lighting you are under have a big impact on how you perceive the color temperatures on your phones. Under lighting in my local phone store my phone looks to have neutral white. Under fluorescent lights in my office it looks slightly pinkish. In indirect sunlight it looks yellowish. Under low evening sun it looks bluish.
GiveMe2Beers said:
Hi guys. First of all let me tell this is far the best Android phone ever had.
But....
This is the second GS3 I have, and both of them have that annoying yellow tint on whites. You can see clearly on whatsapp, web, mailing, whites plain backgrounds.
It's also hard to forget, because when I move the screen 15-20 degrees using it the whites magically became real white, perfect white.
A friend has the same issue with his GS3 but he told me he saw in a shop a GS3 with perfetc whites with no tint at all, white as ice.
With my previous GS2's had some very light blue tint that didn't annoyed me at all (insted, I liked that cold whites temperature).
Tried screen adjuster but dind't help
Any of you guys experienced that?
Cheers.
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Supercurio is working on the app DisplayExpert which makes it possible to calibrate the screen.
He has it running on his S III according to his Twitter.
But the app is not finished yet.
erahk64 said:
Supercurio is working on the app DisplayExpert which makes it possible to calibrate the screen.
He has it running on his S III according to his Twitter.
But the app is not finished yet.
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Hi. Thank you for your reply.
I don'n know much about supercurio's works...
Is it much more or less like "Screen Adjuster" (link) that lets you correct using blue, red, green?
Because I've used it but it didn't help. :crying:
GiveMe2Beers said:
Hi. Thank you for your reply.
I don'n know much about supercurio's works...
Is it much more or less like "Screen Adjuster" (link) that lets you correct using blue, red, green?
Because I've used it but it didn't help. :crying:
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I think it is more advanced than Screen Adjuster after reading his Twitter..
But you could ask him if DisplayExpert is better at fixing yellow tint than Screen Adjuster.
Here is a link to his Twitter: https://twitter.com/supercurio
Try flashing Franco kernel r10, it had colour fixes, my whites are now really white, and screen is clearer. You could also try changing screen mode, I use natural
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Check in Display Settings if "Auto adjust screen tone" is on.
I read that some got pure white after deactivating it.
Hi guys, really thanx to all for your hints. :good:
Unfortunately unchecking "Auto adjust screen tone" and changing screen modes didn't help changing the whites gradient/temperature.
Are you whites a bit yellow or I am the only one (but with 2 GS3 ).
TNX.
GiveMe2Beers said:
Hi guys, really thanx to all for your hints. :good:
Unfortunately unchecking "Auto adjust screen tone" and changing screen modes didn't help changing the whites gradient/temperature.
Are you whites a bit yellow or I am the only one (but with 2 GS3 ).
TNX.
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Every S3 I've seen so far has this yellow tint.
Other problems of this display are (software related):
black crush
oversharpening artifacts (fixed with Hardcore's kernel)
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I have my warranty and the entire box at hand and I need to reassure myself before I head to the service center and request for a replacement. If not, I'll just sell it off.
I'm too, disappointed by the yellow tint that comes with this high res screen. As with others, tilting 20 deg will make the whites cooler. I did a bit of digging and found that there are many different shades of white. The usual white, or at least the one that I'm used to, on my Desire HD, is reddish/pinkish white.
You can do a bit of experimenting by looking at a blank page on SIII for half a minute, then look at another phone. If the white is different, it maybe due to different color casting. This will be particularly annoying still if you have to stare at screen tuned to a different temp at your workplace, and when you are ready to relax and use your phone, wham, you hate your S3 again.
I read a lot of 'black text on white background' and this annoy me as hell. I think that yellowish white make me think I'm reading off a piece of wash out toilet paper.
What do you guys think?
The Gs3 screen is actually 7900 Kelvin color temp which is quite blue! http://www.displaymate.com/OLED_Galaxy_S123_ShootOut_1.htm
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Sorry for double post that was a screen shoot out I linked...the screen should be down a bit to 6500k for accurate color temp. I can't wait for supercurios screen app it will improve battery life. Maybe op should exchange his phone.big was at Verizon store today the display model was quite blue as well no yellow here.
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GiveMe2Beers said:
Hi guys, really thanx to all for your hints. :good:
Unfortunately unchecking "Auto adjust screen tone" and changing screen modes didn't help changing the whites gradient/temperature.
Are you whites a bit yellow or I am the only one (but with 2 GS3 ).
TNX.
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Hey man I'm not noticing any tinting of my colours at all.. Or it might just be me being really obtuse. Aha.
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th3b3 said:
Sorry for double post that was a screen shoot out I linked...the screen should be down a bit to 6500k for accurate color temp. I can't wait for supercurios screen app it will improve battery life. Maybe op should exchange his phone.big was at Verizon store today the display model was quite blue as well no yellow here.
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Why will calibrating the screen improve battery life?
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GiveMe2Beers said:
Hi guys, really thanx to all for your hints. :good:
Unfortunately unchecking "Auto adjust screen tone" and changing screen modes didn't help changing the whites gradient/temperature.
Are you whites a bit yellow or I am the only one (but with 2 GS3 ).
TNX.
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In browser go to menu, colors and select level 1. That will make it less yellowish.
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The Gs3 screen is actually 7900 Kelvin color temp which is quite blue! http://www.displaymate.com/OLED_Galaxy_S123_ShootOut_1.htm
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Mine not for sure. I wish it was bluish like most samoled I had, like GS2.
It's just yellowish instead, and a can see true whites only if I tilt the screen 20 degrees. Seems like a old paper, non beatiful to see.
Gonna return for the second time, but I'm not really confident I will find a GS3 with real whites display like gs2, like I want, like a 600€ 4,8" is supposed to.
Same story for me. Second SGS3 with a yellow tint. If I tilt the phone up or down slightly the whites look right.
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Aphova said:
Same story for me. Second SGS3 with a yellow tint. If I tilt the phone up or down slightly the whites look right.
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Exactly. Nobody that got GS3 with whites real white without tilting the phone up or down?
As the title said is this normal, I'm really not familiar with how pixel handles animation but refer to the video attached, this is also happening inside the settings when I tap something from there. Thanks! this is my 2nd Pixel Device and I don't know if it's really made like that or just an android 12 thing I just want to be sure. Thank you!
Pixel 6 Animation Video.
Lol, just the new charge animation. Very normal. I'm glad I got here first.
ne0ns4l4m4nder said:
Lol, just the new charge animation. Very normal. I'm glad I got here first.
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Thanks man, I'm just wondering as I'm also seeing this on settings animation and I'm not used to it so my first thought is something is off.
It's normal but I feel you it's really really ugly and it feels like something is buggy
flyl0 said:
It's normal but I feel you it's really really ugly and it feels like something is buggy
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Thanks for the response that's what I thought first haha that it's a bug from A12 then a new update came it's still there my 2nd thought that it's the fault of my oled panel but knowing it's normal, I can finally find peace hahaha. Pixel devices are not really available here in my country so warranty is very limited that's why I'm really keen on finding something bad about my unit so that It can get replace quickly before the personal warranty given expires but so far my unit is flawless and the worst case I thought as a problem is this animation
You will see several other flaws with the screen but this is also normal unfortunately.. Like a rainbow effect on the white colors depending on the viewing angle, and a green tint on the grays..
This Oled panel is not that good tbh, it's better on the pro version
flyl0 said:
You will see several other flaws with the screen but this is also normal unfortunately.. Like a rainbow effect on the white colors depending on the viewing angle, and a green tint on the grays..
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Yeah I can see some green tint on grey backgrounds but it's not that bad on my unit as some other user posted, I can live with it.
kemikalman said:
Yeah I can see some green tint on grey backgrounds but it's not that bad on my unit as some other user posted, I can live with it.
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Yeah I can live with it too but sometimes it's really annoying..
I use all of my phones at near minimum brightness, and with this pixel 6 it's horrible haha
flyl0 said:
Yeah I can live with it too but sometimes it's really annoying..
I use all of my phones at near minimum brightness, and with this pixel 6 it's horrible haha
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Yeah I feel you, on my first week I can't help but to keep on looking at it and annoy myself Hahaha then I just leave it as is and moved on when google said it's normal with the oled panel they used