Heyy guys, Today I'm gonna post about a dissapointing fact about my S9+. Post could be little long, I'm kind of hoping for your patience!! Thanks In Advance.
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I have been buying mid-budget phones giving camera the priority. After Nokia X2-00, Sony Ericsson K790, Walton Primo ZX3, Mi 8 SE, Now I have switched to S9+ (Snapdragon)
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My expression on the stock camera of S9+ is somewhat between to to ☹
Let me clarify, The default camera; on enough lighting; takes decent photos, not gonna lie. and thanks to large f1.5 aperture, low light captures are pretty good too! Then why the frown face?
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It's about the Raws I capture! As a smartphone camera enthusiast, I always try to capture raw files and edit it in Lightroom for better processing. The screenshots attached in this post, the red-rectengular-marked options is from MI 8 SE of a third party app, the clean screenshots are of S9+
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Let me explain what is happening here. In my rooted Mi 8 SE, i have enabled full camer2api support and used a third party app to capture Raws. That app has expanded the options extensively and given me the full control of options, like ISO(50-6400 fractioned); Shutter(1/50000 to 35s) and so on with capability of capturing raws(dng) somewhat like a DSLR
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But even though camera compatibility shows an enabled camera2api defaultly, My S9+ is unable to provide manual options in third party apps. I can't even control the ISO or Shutter speed, let alone capturing Raws using third party apps
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There's is a Raw option in Pro mode in S9+ I know but that really SUCKS, yeah, SUCKS compared to Raw I have captured by Mi 8 SE using Open Camera app, that's so true. Only ISO between 50-800 and shutter speed between 1/10000 to 10s is not enough from me
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So my question is, Is this possible that these third party apps can't give me full supports because they can't get the root access? I'm gonna root my S9+ (snapdragon), but before this I just wanna know if this works. So have anyone rooted your snapdragon version S9+?
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Thanks again for your patience. There's Gcam for Raw capturing but Gcam doesn't give me as much flexibility as Open Camera app does!
Have a nice dayy, guys.
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I found this professional camera app, which has so much options. You can manually set the exposure time, up to 60 seconds! Also ISO is adjustable.
Downside is that it doesn't support our physical camera key. I tested this app on ICS.
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.flavionet.android.camera.pro
i used to use this app, can not change ISO -,-
It'll be great if we can change ISO on Neo/V. I believe high ISO setting is one downside of this camera.
the stock camera is the best camera, do you think so ?
Can you post some pictures taken by this camera with the vatious settings so we can see the quality and versatility of the camera?
Thanks
gregbradley said:
Can you post some pictures taken by this camera with the vatious settings so we can see the quality and versatility of the camera?
Thanks
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I wasn't able to spot any differences myself, only that when I changed the ISO settings and shutter time this app could picture shapes in a dark room, where the stock app just makes an all black picture. But if you want to try it yourself, you know how it works on Android...
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It'll be great if we can change ISO on Neo/V. I believe high ISO setting is one downside of this camera.
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OMG i started to think i am just plain stupid but now I see you can't change iso too, then this app sucks, nothing much without iso.
Neo V also, other then that its great app...
sdk16420 said:
I wasn't able to spot any differences myself, only that when I changed the ISO settings and shutter time this app could picture shapes in a dark room, where the stock app just makes an all black picture. But if you want to try it yourself, you know how it works on Android...
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If you turn flash on in the stock app you can get a near perfect pic in the dark on the stock app. The flash on the Neo is seriously powerful.
really good app...thnx
Hi all
I'm looking for a camera app better than the one that is installed from sony.
I know that sony did not implement the camera 2 api but the pictures taken with their camera app appears blur, washed, and in general poor quality.
So I'm waiting for your experience...:fingers-crossed:
Thanks
François
I've tried a few Camera apps, but I don't think I've found one that gives better result.
As far as I'm concerned the picture quality is okay, just make sure to keep your hands steady and wait for a few seconds because this phone does have shutter lag.
If you want to shoot faster, as long as you're in good lighting condition, use the Manual mode, choose Sports scene, that'll shorten the shutter lag a little.
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There is NOTHING wrong with the camera or the default software.
Quality is great, you just have to know how to use a camera, use of iso, shutter speed, etc...
I think image quality is great and I'm quite happy to post several shots should you wish.
raw sample from c5 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5NJTB9bLPdsM2FGeVl1cndPeEE/view?usp=sharing from @francoistoen
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raw sample from c5 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5NJTB9bLPdsM2FGeVl1cndPeEE/view?usp=sharing from @francoistoen
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Hi
I can confirm that FreeDcam (special build made by defcomg) allows the Xperia C5 ultra dual (E5533) to shoot in raw and save pictures as dng. Those dng pictures can be processed with Lightroom, Rawtherapee or Photoshop to get the best of the raw picture. :victory:
Here is the link of FreeDcam thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/camera-freedcam-4-0-3-t3115548
and see from post #37 on page 4. The right released apk is linked on post #57 in page 6. Some minors problems stays there but overall job is well done.
Thanks to defcomg for his quick job and the quality of the result.:good:
François
Should you know how to take pictures, the C5 Ultra is a very capable camera and takes excellent pictures. Here are several recent ones taken:
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I remember my old Xperia Z1 having amazing presets to take pictures in low light. Now, I am a proud owner of the Xperia 1 III without such luxury
Am I the only one missing those? Yes, you can play with the Shutter and the Iso to get better results while taking pictures in low light without a flash, but that takes time to do it. By the time you make all those manual settings, you would lose that photography moment...
I tried the function "S" and the function "Auto". The last one, "Auto" scored the best but way far from the presets of the Xperia Z1.
Does anyone know a way to fix this inconvenient issue? Maybe a better quick setting or some presets that can be imported? Sony...can you give us those presets with your next update??? I don't want an iPhone owner to embarrass me with its great low light pictures
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I remember my old Xperia Z1 having amazing presets to take pictures in low light. Now, I am a proud owner of the Xperia 1 III without such luxury
Am I the only one missing those? Yes, you can play with the Shutter and the Iso to get better results while taking pictures in low light without a flash, but that takes time to do it. By the time you make all those manual settings, you would lose that photography moment...
I tried the function "S" and the function "Auto". The last one, "Auto" scored the best but way far from the presets of the Xperia Z1.
Does anyone know a way to fix this inconvenient issue? Maybe a better quick setting or some presets that can be imported? Sony...can you give us those presets with your next update??? I don't want an iPhone owner to embarrass me with its great low light pictures
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I preferred this, key is single auto focus and dro auto instead of hdr auto.
Recently I got an Xperia 5 Mk. II because I wanted a cheap, well built cameraphone, and largely it delivered. The Photo Pro software is the best I've ever used on a phone, but the RAW output seems to be not really that raw. First off, I couldn't disable lens distortion correction on the wide angle lens, which should be disabled by default when shooting RAW. Moreover, JPEGs come out with the natural fisheye distortion, RAWs come out filtered.
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On the other hand, while shooting RAW with the third party Firstlight camera app, DNGs come out exactly how they should be. But it's a buggy third party app and the autofocus is borderline unusable, especially compared to the native app.
Much the same way, another issue i came across, which also plagues the 5 III, 1 II and 1 III (although NOT the IV gen, as I've seen so far) is the telephoto RAWs. They seem to be infested with this 1px wide grid across the whole image, especially on the highlights. At first I thought it was the bad ISOCELL sensor, but again, tried with Firstlight and photos came out flawless.
(5 III and 1 III RAW samples taken from www.photographyblog.com; all images are contrast enhanced)
Worst thing about this grid problem is that it seems to translate to JPEGs as well, but in RAW it is absolutely intolerable.
And not only that, both these issues seem to persist across multiple versions of the app. I did try from 1.1 to 1.3, which is the latest one supported by my unit.
My theory about this is that these filters could be pulled out of the APK, for which i just don't have the brains to get around. I did decompile the app and found some tiny bits of glsl and some vague "pre-output correction" calls in the DNG builder that do confirm my suspicions, but i really have no clue how to navigate around this stuff any further and, well, make RAW raw again. For a phone series that prides itself on having an accurate and natural looking camera, this certainly takes a lot away from it.
What is the best way to take an action shot with the S23 Ultra? I am not an avid photographer but do want to take decent not-blurry pics from kids sports activities. Is it possible without going into RAW mode and changing exposure settings? Back in the day, my Note 8 had a "sports" mode that was easy to use though haven't seen it in a while. But I do see a "food" mode that I'll never use...
The "motion photo" setting is useful; it can only be viewed and edited with Samsung Gallery app though. The phone allows you to make gifs too.
This is on my N10+/Pie, presumably the S23U still has these options.
There's also burst mode.
Live tracking as well which may or may not be useful. Set up is rather convoluted as certain options are only available at certain resolutions, fps or with other options. Guides for other older models may be helpful if the S23U guides aren't providing enough information. Many of the features date back years.
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A combination of burst mode and live tracking is definitely your best option.
I would still recommend looking into gcam using this gcam and config :
Post in thread 'Working GCAM for S23 Ultra' https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/working-gcam-for-s23-ultra.4550019/post-88277895
That version will offer face focus tracking by default which is great for kids action shots. You can also enabling focus tracking if you often need to take pictures of your kids without seeing their faces but otherwise, you want to leave focus tracking disabled so it better tracks faces. Picture quality for the time being will be better than stock cam.
In the end though, even under good light conditions, smartphones won't do miracles for action shots as their focus system isn't that fast. But I'm sure with stock or gcam you can manage some decent shots