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Hi All,
I've preordered M10Pro, expecting delivery middle of this months but am still wondering if I've made a right decision. I have never used a phone with amoled as my daily driver. I drive a car quite a bit, using google maps for around 1h daily plus every 1-2 weeks for at least 5-6 hours a single day. Additionally I am pretty used to now using AOD (LG G6), it's not clear if AOD on M10Pro is changing its position in order to prevent burn in so these to plus navigation bar drives my crazy when I think I could spend considerable amount of money on a phone which will get burn in after a few months.
Unfortunately regular M10 won't be available on my market and I do not want to order outside as I am used to having my devices covered by 24 months guarantee.
What are your experiences with amoled? What are you feeling when it comes to burn-in and M10Pro? Should I be even bothered?
Thanks
borsodi said:
Hi All,
I've preordered M10Pro, expecting delivery middle of this months but am still wondering if I've made a right decision. I have never used a phone with amoled as my daily driver. I drive a car quite a bit, using google maps for around 1h daily plus every 1-2 weeks for at least 5-6 hours a single day. Additionally I am pretty used to now using AOD (LG G6), it's not clear if AOD on M10Pro is changing its position in order to prevent burn in so these to plus navigation bar drives my crazy when I think I could spend considerable amount of money on a phone which will get burn in after a few months.
Unfortunately regular M10 won't be available on my market and I do not want to order outside as I am used to having my devices covered by 24 months guarantee.
What are your experiences with amoled? What are you feeling when it comes to burn-in and M10Pro? Should I be even bothered?
Thanks
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i choose the Mate 10 6+128GB!
I know that for some of you there may be an option to choose between 10 and 10pro but for me, when I want to have a full guarantee locally options are -to buy 10 pro with amoled or to buy from competition which does not have amoled, so basically htc, which to me is not a real alternative
As per android central review on YouTube out today, after "several weeks" of usage he had no burn in issue for the Mate10 pro.
warea said:
As per android central review on YouTube out today, after "several weeks" of usage he had no burn in issue for the Mate10 pro.
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Will watch it straight away. Hope it clears all my doubts.
It will burn in eventually. It's a reality with AMOLED. May be sooner, may be later, as each screen is different but it will happen. This is why I really try to avoid AMOLED. I prefer peace of mind over a more saturated screen.
Not to mention I've never heard of the company supplying Huawei with their AMOLED screens. If I have to get one, it'd probably be a Samsung.
Not sure why LCD has so much hate. It's perfect on my Mate 10 and with HDR videos it's stunning. No worries about burn in too.
tboy2000 said:
Not sure why LCD has so much hate. It's perfect on my Mate 10 and with HDR videos it's stunning. No worries about burn in too.
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Don't worry they will know as soon as they get a burn in screen, I learned from it on my S8 for 2 months only burn in grrrr
borsodi said:
Hi All,
I've preordered M10Pro, expecting delivery middle of this months but am still wondering if I've made a right decision. I have never used a phone with amoled as my daily driver. I drive a car quite a bit, using google maps for around 1h daily plus every 1-2 weeks for at least 5-6 hours a single day. Additionally I am pretty used to now using AOD (LG G6), it's not clear if AOD on M10Pro is changing its position in order to prevent burn in so these to plus navigation bar drives my crazy when I think I could spend considerable amount of money on a phone which will get burn in after a few months.
Unfortunately regular M10 won't be available on my market and I do not want to order outside as I am used to having my devices covered by 24 months guarantee.
What are your experiences with amoled? What are you feeling when it comes to burn-in and M10Pro? Should I be even bothered?
Thanks
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I have seen the AOD on the Mate 10 pro in different locations, so i understand it will be moving about.
And navigation is not static, so maybe it won't be an issue ?
Everyone is going oled whether its LG, Apple, Pixel 2 and OnePlus. And there is that BOE manufacturer ready to bring out their oled as well and so will be seeing oleds even more. Apple and others know that oled is prone to burn in and yet saw it as fit to use on their important iphone x, which means the probability is low and depends on a certain harsh usage.
If Huawei covers warranty for a burn in it would be reassuring though. Personally, i don't use my phone in max brightness and prolonged periods with a static image. And i use the auto brightness most of the time. I haven't had a problem with my oled on the P9 plus after 1.5 years of usage.
Every big player will get Amoleds to their phone....
Why? Because of money and bussiness....
Why to make a perfect phone that will last for 3 years without a problem.
They need more to sell...... I would buy a mate 10 pro if there would be a ips display.... oled no....
I had a lcd once, on a sony : I hated it. I always had oled screens, and never had any burn-in problem (I keep my phones for 2 years usually) and I also use google map a lot>
I have now had my Mate 10 Pro for about 2 months and i am absolutly loving it.
I can confirm that the AOD is moving around, so nothing to worry about there, and the screen itself is stunnig to look at.
Will i get burn-in over time? I don't know. But i really like the screen and the pictures it creates.
warea said:
I have seen the AOD on the Mate 10 pro in different locations, so i understand it will be moving about.
And navigation is not static, so maybe it won't be an issue ?
Everyone is going oled whether its LG, Apple, Pixel 2 and OnePlus. And there is that BOE manufacturer ready to bring out their oled as well and so will be seeing oleds even more. Apple and others know that oled is prone to burn in and yet saw it as fit to use on their important iphone x, which means the probability is low and depends on a certain harsh usage.
If Huawei covers warranty for a burn in it would be reassuring though. Personally, i don't use my phone in max brightness and prolonged periods with a static image. And i use the auto brightness most of the time. I haven't had a problem with my oled on the P9 plus after 1.5 years of usage.
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Now apple will stop production of iphone x and will made a model back with ips display because of burn in
Blotchy Black
Hi!
Is anybody experiencing a blotchy screen when you render plain black images? I noticed this in my stock gallery app, Netflix, and video player. It is noticeable in a very dark room. It bothers me since I know that when an OLED panel renders black color it turns off so no light is emitted. But in this case I see a blotchy black.
This "sooner or later", burn in is not how it works. I have a Galaxy S3 and a Note4 with zero burn in, even though I used both heavily for years. (Even for GPS, etc.),
The content matters. Like my sister had an S4 and it had Facebook Messenger burnt into the screen because she was chatting for so many hours.
And after she gave the phone to me just a few months back so I can sell it, the burn in went away after mixed use.
Tl;Dr: Burn in is more of a meme, it's more like retention. I mean the Mate10 Pro has on screen buttons but that's not a 100% chance that it will burn in.
Send it back and get a new one from Amazon. I saw this problem with the camera in white or clears walls. It seems "banding".
I acquired a second hand Mate 10 Pro 3 weeks ago (first owner bought it on the 24th of November), it already had burn-in zones: navigation dock button, Google Search, bottom system buttons bar and many other ones from various apps' icons... These zones are mostly noticeable on clear or white screen/pages (eg: about:blank URL in Chrome browser). At reception, I immediately selected a black theme and activated Battery's dark mode. Now I can see my own apps setup marking the screen... After only 3 weeks...
Am I the only one ?
I'm contacting Huawei customer service.
I finally went to Paris' Huawei customer care center. They told me they never saw/heard about such issue, hard to believe.
They kept my phone 24h and they replaced the full front part (including battery): they only keep the motherboard (can't say if it includes cameras' parts too).
They ensured me waterproofing should be the same. 200 meters after I left the building, I noticed a huge gap where the back plate should stick to the phone's body. So long for waterproofing I suppose.
I immediately went back, and in 10min they replaced the back cover for a brand new one; things are better, but after throrough look, I can see back cover is not perfectly glued... But hey, I have an almost brand new device now.
I took time to compare the demo devices they have, and the Mate 10 Pro had a burned-in screen too, quickly noticeable thanks to Chrome's about:blank URL
Usually the weeks after the launch of a phone especially one that was so anticipated the boards are absolutely full of user feedback.
It feels strangely dead here.
I held back on a purchase just to hear what people were thinking - particularly about the standard Mate 10 but there's very little happening.
Even on Google there is very little information on the Mate 10 (a lot on the pro) and very little user follow-up/long term reviews.
It's slightly un-nerving.
So ARE people buying this phone (the pro at least because of the availability)? Are you liking it? What's the experience been like? What DON'T you like......
kolembo said:
Usually the weeks after the launch of a phone especially one that was so anticipated the boards are absolutely full of user feedback.
It feels strangely dead here.
I held back on a purchase just to hear what people were thinking - particularly about the standard Mate 10 but there's very little happening.
Even on Google there is very little information on the Mate 10 (a lot on the pro) and very little user follow-up/long term reviews.
It's slightly un-nerving.
So ARE people buying this phone (the pro at least because of the availability)? Are you liking it? What's the experience been like? What DON'T you like......
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Pros
Battery life. Good speed. I have to stress the battery life. The best I've ever had on a phone. EVER. Over 7 hrs SOT. Easily lasts 2 days.
Cons
WiFi is unacceptable. I constantly have to switch to 4g.
Camera for me is not good enough.
A little buggy at times. Couple of random reboots, one or two other minor weird stuff.
I brought this phone whilst my HTC u11+ gets repaired. I thought I may stick with the Huawei, however due to the cons I think I'll go back to the HTC u11+ (a better overall phone for me)
Hope that helps
I've only had the Mate 10 for about a week, and it's growing on me. As posted above, the battery life is SUPERB. 7+ hours of SOT, close to 2 days standby. Fast charging (which requires Huawei's proprietary charger and a 5 amp type C cable) is also amazing. As is the speed and accuracy of the front fingerprint reader (and it's great that it can be tapped, long-tapped and swiped).
I think the screen, camera and speed are all excellent and, having originally thought about returning it (I was coming from a Note 4), I think it's now a keeper, although, like the OP, I'm surprised at how quiet the community has been.
Some cons: I hate the volume buttons placement, on the right side just above power. It's a pain since I like to use them for reading and cursor control, and I'm used to doing that with my thumb on the left side. I also am disappointed that there's not TWRP yet, as I'm used to GMD Gesture Control and Titanium, although I'm finding relatively decent substitutes.
Other pros: 3.0 type C charger, great sound, IR blaster, SD Card, dual-sim, comes with a usable case (the phone is otherwise slippery).
I purchased the regular Mate 10, AL00 rebranded to L29, so it has 6 gigs of ram/128 gigs of storage. I believe I'm having some buyers remorse. It's just not a big enough upgrade from the Mate 9. As a matter of fact, I still often pick up and play around with my Mate 9. I've only had the 10 for about 4 days and am debating on selling it, probably at a $100/$150 loss.
Two aspects I was excited for, the updated screen and offscreen button, both have issues for me. The screen isn't nearly as bright as the Mate 9 which makes it look a little duller, but is much sharper. There is also an adaptive brightness issue which causes certain screens and apps to dim and cannot be toggled off. The fingerprint sensor is still super fast but using it as the offscreen buttons can be problematic for those with larger fingers. It's so small and very close to the app drawer button, provided you use one as I do.
The added thickness is also quite noticeable to me. Despite being taller and wider, the Mate 9 seems more comfortable in my hands.
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Some cons: I hate the volume buttons placement, on the right side just above power.
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My s7 edge has the buttons on the different side, and my P10 plus has it on the same side but with a different texture on the power button instead. I have the Mate 10 pro since it's availability, but I sometimes still push the wrong button. It is not a deal breaker, just something to note.
i might consider checking it out if you are selling.
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I purchased the regular Mate 10, AL00 rebranded to L29, so it has 6 gigs of ram/128 gigs of storage. I believe I'm having some buyers remorse. It's just not a big enough upgrade from the Mate 9. As a matter of fact, I still often pick up and play around with my Mate 9. I've only had the 10 for about 4 days and am debating on selling it, probably at a $100/$150 loss.
Two aspects I was excited for, the updated screen and offscreen button, both have issues for me. The screen isn't nearly as bright as the Mate 9 which makes it look a little duller, but is much sharper. There is also an adaptive brightness issue which causes certain screens and apps to dim and cannot be toggled off. The fingerprint sensor is still super fast but using it as the offscreen buttons can be problematic for those with larger fingers. It's so small and very close to the app drawer button, provided you use one as I do.
The added thickness is also quite noticeable to me. Despite being taller and wider, the Mate 9 seems more comfortable in my hands.
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daz_2000 said:
Pros
Battery life. Good speed. I have to stress the battery life. The best I've ever had on a phone. EVER. Over 7 hrs SOT. Easily lasts 2 days.
Cons
WiFi is unacceptable. I constantly have to switch to 4g.
Camera for me is not good enough.
A little buggy at times. Couple of random reboots, one or two other minor weird stuff.
I brought this phone whilst my HTC u11+ gets repaired. I thought I may stick with the Huawei, however due to the cons I think I'll go back to the HTC u11+ (a better overall phone for me)
Hope that helps
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You're having WiFi issues as well as some random bugs? I haven't heard much of this anywhere so I am curious now. What is wrong with the WiFi? And random reboots? Have you factory reset? What model/version do you have / are you running and did you rebrand?
I have the Mate 10 and since its officially available where i live, the price in Asia and Middle East is a pretty strong point (620$ for 4gb/64gb) and even better i got my hands on a Mate 10 that was only couple days used for 500$. So there is no regrets for me at all considering the excellent pricing for a flagship phone. Moreover i have been using a P9 plus which is almost 2 years old. So the Mate 10 is a proper upgrade for me.
Initially i was breaking my head over whether to buy the Mate 10 or Mate 10 pro (was it worth 200$ more?). It was a debate between big 16:9 screen, QHD, front fp (really important for me), cheaper price versus an oled screen with a 5.5inch gotten taller 18:9 ratio, narrow better in hand feel, blue color, 2 day battery life. Coming from a 5.5 inch oled display phone, i was expecting Mate 10 pro to be the right choice. But after getting the Mate 10 i have to say i don't really feel that urge to get the Mate 10 pro anymore. So i am now in a stage where i just wait and if i come across a good deal for Mate 10 pro i might give it a try.
Initial hands on the phone felt wide to hold but soon after usage of the phone the muscle memory or whatever kicks in and you get used to it. I have used the Huawei TPU case for a while but couple days ago realized again how much thickness it adds to the phone and the real phone without the case feels far slimmer and the edge to edge bezels shows its real self. So i will be getting myself a pouch case to protect the phone in pocket while able to use the phone without any case in real usage rather than miss out such an important part of the phone, the built quality.
The display as mentioned elsewhere i have gotten spoilt by the QHD and big screen. The narrow and tall 18:9 FHD+ just does not woo me anymore. Deeper black of Oled is compensated by the purer white of the IPS. And i don't have a note 8 near me to compare and complain, so in stand alone usage and compared to what phone i was using all along, the display is a great upgrade for me. And yes the battery life would be better with an oled but for my personal usage i go to bed with enough battery to watch a dozen youtube videos and still have at least 30% battery left, and charge the phone back in 30 minutes of shower in the morning. So i have nothing to complain personally.
I am not a camera guy so can't say much other than that it is a huge upgrade from my existing Leica of P9 plus. From all the reviews online, its camera is clearly in flagship territory. And i guess there is a personal preference that comes in that makes people to prefer one among Pixel 2 series, Iphone X, Note 8 and Mate 10 series camera.
I have been using Huawei phones for a while so have a natural inclination to Huawei over other brands. LG & Samsung is a no no for me. One plus feels like a wannabe. Pixel 2 is overpriced outside USA. Personally not inclined to HTC. I was close to getting the Essential phone for being such a compact and minimal bezel phone. But the availability outside US and camera performance kept me away.
The only con is that Huawei did not bring much changes to the UI, whereas they used to have significant UI upgrade with every year. This year they brought out the Oreo and added few Oreo features, and cleaned up the settings and then called it EMUI 8. So not much visible changes to the UI experience and there are still places on the UI where they have to do a lot more refining and staying ahead.
daz_2000 said:
Pros
Battery life. Good speed. I have to stress the battery life.
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Hey, thanks. Yeah the phone suddenly seems lost between the OnePlus 5t, the U11+, the LaV30, the Google, the Apple and the i phone!
Not to mention now, it's very own Honor V10.
The uptake, looking at the boards seems to have been tempered somewhat by....I don't know... The camera? The lack of ear-phone jack? The screen resolution?
I can't put my finger on it but the Mate9 was far more successful in drumming up a critical mass of users here on XDA.
I think Huawei's Mate release this year may have been a little muddled and I get the feeling that the Mate core user actually wants the 10 standard and not the pro and that they can't find it?
The competition is really deep this year.... I'll keep watching the boards but it's like.....brrrrrr.... So far.
Got a Mate Pro. Absolutely love it.
I got a Pixel 2XL at the same time and I really can't decide which one to use. Got the Pixel as my private phone and Huawei as my work phone.
The Pixel camera is as good as the reviews say, but the Mate's is as good if you ask me. It certainly is more flexible and had many more options.
Battery life is excellent as mentioned by others.
The screen is fine and plenty bright enough. I honestly can't see any circumstances where I'd want it to be brighter than Mac can take it.
HDR for YouTube can be enabled.
No issues with WiFi here.
As for slow uptake, a quick search of the internet shows that the Mate at least is breaking sales records for Huawei.
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I purchased the regular Mate 10, AL00 rebranded to L29, so it has 6 gigs of ram/128 gigs of storage. I believe I'm having some buyers remorse.
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Thanks for the reply.
Yes, this is the feeling I'm getting looking around the internet, particularly on the screen brightness AND this funny adaptive thing one seems not to be able to control.
I think, particularly with the move from Mate 9 to the 10, with the technology seemingly plateaued for 2017, that perhaps they didn't go far enough in redesign?
The anticipation for the phone is not being matched by the number of people buying. Clearly the fact that it is only the pro being made easily available in the West has something to do with it - because Mate 9 users and Mate 9 pro users are different profiles.
Where the Mate 9 managed to carve out a nice for itself apart from the regular contenders, the pro sat right in the middle of it's competitors, and this year, is overtaken by the screen.
It's fascinating I think - also, what does it mean for discussion on the standard Mate 10? When you go to Google, almost all the results returned concern the Mate 10 pro....and it is being experienced completely outside of the impact that the Mate 9 had.
Anyway, thanks, I'm in Kenya and so both phones have just been released and are available now.
I have this niggling suspicion that the P11 & P11 Plus will have to pull something special out of the box to change the situation.
Also..... The Honor V10 then feels like it's in direct competition - apart from it's screen. It's all very strange indeed.
buckshot4 said:
You're having WiFi issues as well as some random bugs? I haven't heard much of this anywhere so I am curious now. What is wrong with the WiFi? And random reboots? Have you factory reset? What model/version do you have / are you running and did you rebrand?
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The WiFi is very slow particularly when I am a little further away from my router. Note. This was not the case for any other phone. E.g. Samsung s8 and HTC u11+. I even did a side by side test and Huawei failed miserably. I am now at a point where I pretty much have to leave WiFi off as do not want to wait for pages to load. I have had 3 random reboots in 7 days.
I have not done a factory reset. And not rooted rebranded etc. I brought from carphone warehouse UK.
Huaweis been really bad with release
Still not available in Australia
virtyx said:
Huaweis been really bad with release
Still not available in Australia
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Are you sure ? I see Huawei website has provided links to Australian stores and you get a 360 camera free as well.
http://consumer.huawei.com/au/
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Are you sure ? I see Huawei website has provided links to Australian stores and you get a 360 camera free as well.
http://consumer.huawei.com/au/
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Only one store has it contract unfortunately
daz_2000 said:
Pros
Battery life. Good speed. I have to stress the battery life. The best I've ever had on a phone. EVER. Over 7 hrs SOT. Easily lasts 2 days.
Cons
WiFi is unacceptable. I constantly have to switch to 4g.
Camera for me is not good enough.
A little buggy at times. Couple of random reboots, one or two other minor weird stuff.
I brought this phone whilst my HTC u11+ gets repaired. I thought I may stick with the Huawei, however due to the cons I think I'll go back to the HTC u11+ (a better overall phone for me)
Hope that helps
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I am undecided between U11+ and mate10.
why repaired u11+ after 2 weeks?
u11+ better camera,auto hdr for photos ,audio and new 18:9 but HTC sense has less feature.
mate 10 Emui has a lot features but no auto hdr for photos, and 16:9
I dropped the HTC and the camera would not load. Other than that I loved it. Screen could be better as LCD. But still very good. I will be going back to HTC over Huawei.
Got mine yesterday sold my iPhone x to get this and love it, mainly bought for projection mode with no need for a dock like the S8 really find this useful.
Would be happier with Google Services.
Sammae7 said:
I purchased the regular Mate 10, AL00 rebranded to L29, so it has 6 gigs of ram/128 gigs of storage. I believe I'm having some buyers remorse. It's just not a big enough upgrade from the Mate 9. As a matter of fact, I still often pick up and play around with my Mate 9. I've only had the 10 for about 4 days and am debating on selling it, probably at a $100/$150 loss.
Two aspects I was excited for, the updated screen and offscreen button, both have issues for me. The screen isn't nearly as bright as the Mate 9 which makes it look a little duller, but is much sharper. There is also an adaptive brightness issue which causes certain screens and apps to dim and cannot be toggled off. The fingerprint sensor is still super fast but using it as the offscreen buttons can be problematic for those with larger fingers. It's so small and very close to the app drawer button, provided you use one as I do.
The added thickness is also quite noticeable to me. Despite being taller and wider, the Mate 9 seems more comfortable in my hands.
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I got my Mate 10 three weeks ago. In the first week, I was not happy with the phone because it can not get google services in full operation. Google cannot even get the phone number lift out of this phone. However now I am quite impressed by the features from this phone that others mentioned, battery, fast fingerprint. I am particularly happy with camera, screen and buttons. My previous phone was Samsung GS7 Edge.
Now, I will be much happier if I can get Google services work on this phone. Without phone number association to the phone, cannot use find a phone, track a phone, and other administrative features of the phone from google.
I assume your re-branding it to L29 would resolve this issue. I actually tried to use DC-unlocker as well as FH Mate 10 tool. I don't have bootloader code that i could not pass either of the tools. Would you please share your way of re-branding and give me some suggestions?
thank you/
chris
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I got my Mate 10 three weeks ago. In the first week, I was not happy with the phone because it can not get google services in full operation. Google cannot even get the phone number lift out of this phone. However now I am quite impressed by the features from this phone that others mentioned, battery, fast fingerprint. I am particularly happy with camera, screen and buttons. My previous phone was Samsung GS7 Edge.
Now, I will be much happier if I can get Google services work on this phone. Without phone number association to the phone, cannot use find a phone, track a phone, and other administrative features of the phone from google.
I assume your re-branding it to L29 would resolve this issue. I actually tried to use DC-unlocker as well as FH Mate 10 tool. I don't have bootloader code that i could not pass either of the tools. Would you please share your way of re-branding and give me some suggestions?
thank you/
chris
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Check out the FunkyHuawei thread on this forum. That seems to be the best way to rebrand your device to L29 (or any version for that matter), though you do have to pay to do that. But if it is the difference between having google services and not having google services, I would definitely suggest looking into it!
Hey guys. So I've pre-ordered the Emerald Green version of the phone due to ship on 13 Nov, but I'm still in the process of deciding whether this is the phone for me . It'd be really helpful if those with the phone could take a minute to answer a few questions. Thanks in advance!
1) The GSMArena review just published mentions some minor screen bleed occurring. This is something that LCD screens are more prone to, so I was surprised to hear that it's present on the Mate 20 Pro's OLED panel. Is this something you've noticed and if so how bad is it?
2) I've never used a curved display before and am wondering what the experience is like when watching full screen video (because I watch a lot of video on my phone)? I know the screen in general is considered to be very good, but what about the curved aspect? Is it causing a lot of distortion? Is there distracting glare on the sides of the phone? And what about the unusual aspect ratio - any problems with that?
3) How good would you say the camera is when used simply as a standard point and shoot camera? Is it a camera you need to tinker a lot with or strong under automatic settings?
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Hey guys. So I've pre-ordered the Emerald Green version of the phone due to ship on 13 Nov, but I'm still in the process of deciding whether this is the phone for me . It'd be really helpful if those with the phone could take a minute to answer a few questions. Thanks in advance!
1) The GSMArena review just published mentions some minor screen bleed occurring. This is something that LCD screens are more prone to, so I was surprised to hear that it's present on the Mate 20 Pro's OLED panel. Is this something you've noticed and if so how bad is it?
2) I've never used a curved display before and am wondering what the experience is like when watching full screen video (because I watch a lot of video on my phone)? I know the screen in general is considered to be very good, but what about the curved aspect? Is it causing a lot of distortion? Is there distracting glare on the sides of the phone? And what about the unusual aspect ratio - any problems with that?
3) How good would you say the camera is when used simply as a standard point and shoot camera? Is it a camera you need to tinker a lot with or strong under automatic settings?
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1) this sort of problem wouldn't be because of the phone itself. Any number of problem can arise with an oled screen on any phone. I don't have any screen bleed at all. They probably just have a slight uneven shift on there unit
2) I'm with you. Never liked curved but I have not noticed any glare. There is a slight colour shift on the edges ..but believe me you don't notice at all in normal use only if you were to stare at the curve intently. The screen is amazing quality .
3) it's early but the camera looks excellent. The wide angle and 5x zoom produces awesome results
So, as title is saying I would like to know do A3 users with custom roms also have slower response to FP like I saw in rrviews everywhere. Is it really a dealbreaker among with 720p display. I am in dillema between A3 and RN8T.
Smaller phone, better camera sensor, better front camera, maybe a bit better battery.
What do you think ?
I have a mia3 and my missus just bought a RN8t which will be arriving in the next couple days. If you can wait a couple days I will be able to give you a direct comparison of the two devices.
It will obviously be just my opinion but at least it's something?
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I have a mia3 and my missus just bought a RN8t which will be arriving in the next couple days. If you can wait a couple days I will be able to give you a direct comparison of the two devices.
It will obviously be just my opinion but at least it's something?
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Sure mate, I cant wait, thank you.
Long post, you've been warned.
Well. I haven't installed roms, nor have a n8, but I can tell you my experience of 3 months with the thing running stock.
The thing with the fingerprint scanner is that it's a little tricky, I think it's over sensitive. If your fingers get wet or moist (sweaty), and the skin "expands" then it's gonna fail to pick your fingerprint. If you press your finger considerably harder or softer than what you did when registering the fingerprint, then it's not gonna recognize it either.
But it's a matter of getting used to, I mostly fixed it by registering my fingerprint using the same pressure that I use when normally handling the phone; also, registering the thumb I use the most in 3 of the four "slots" with different "moisture conditions" really helped. The other two slots I use for the other thumb and an index finger, which comes in handy sometimes.
Actually, lately I've been trying with registering only the tip of my fingerprint, and I've had good results. The tip of your fingers won't expand as much when wet, having sweaty hands, etc. So, using just one slot for that thumb works like a charm, maybe register two slots and you're gold.
Other problem with the stock fingerprint is that the animation robs around 1/2 second of time when unlocking, here in the forums is a tread on removing the animation (no root required) and the difference is noticeable, almost twice as fast.
Other thing that affects the speed is the display. If you have the option to have always on show the fingerprint icon (and/or the AOD on A10), the time for waking up the sensor and reading the fingerprint goes down around 1/4 second vs having the screen fully off. I have this feature off, because I fear having the fingerprint icon always on, might cause screen burning in the AMOLED panel, and I plan on keeping this phone for some years.
Also, the Android 10 update made an improvement in speed and accuracy of the sensor I could immediately notice it after the update.
Having said all that:
If you configure the fingerprint the way the phone likes it, and have the speed tweaks I mentioned above, the successful read rate is around 95% and the sensor speed is nearly the same as a capacitive sensor. Arround 0.33 seconds for the a3 vs an average capacitative sensor's 0.25 seconds, which is a barely noticeable difference, really.
In the way I have my phone configured, I would say the average time I spend unlocking my phone is around 1/2 a second. (screen totally off, animation removed)
Now, the redmi's sensor:
There's no discussion. That capacitive fingerprint scanner will ALWAYS be faster and more accurate than this one. But, honestly that additional 1/4th of a second is something I can live with easily.
About the screen: I'm not gonna lie, you can see the difference in sharpness because of the difference in screen resolution of the note 8 and the mi a3. But really, I don't consider it a problem as many youtubers do. I can read the small text just fine (which is what I consider most important) and because it actually affects battery life in a positive way, A LOT.
The reported average SOT of the RN8 is of 7:30 hours, I would say the average user on a mi A3 will get ~8:30 hours of SOT. Because of the lower screen resolution and blah blah blah.
(my average sot is 10 hours btw, that includes playing games and YouTube for 1+hours each. And in days with no games it comes to arround 12h with 10% left. Notice that above I mentioned the "average user". I don't feel like comparing my usage because it would be unfair; I am not an "average" user, I actually care a lot for my battery life. Screen brightness is almost always low, black amoled backgrounds, dark mode, little background apps, etc,. But. It pays off, max SOT I've had is 15H and no user on a note 8 can achieve that, I'm sure.)
Now, finally. This phone or the RN8?
Well, it's simple. If you don't care about the little camera quality drop or the Android one updates and want a phone that has no hassles, doesn't needs tweaking, and works flawlessly (fingerprint, software) out of the box, then go for the redmi.
And if you want this phone, because you know you can take advantage of its amoled display, and the subsequent battery life improvements; and are willing to "tweak" it, and to iron some software bugs yourself, well, don't look back and buy it. Most of the stock android bugs are really minor at this point, might get officially fixed soon. And if not, most can be fixed with no root.
For me, for the price I paid. I have no regrets of buying it. I really couldn't have bought anything better for that much. Knowing how to get the best aspects of the amoled panel has proven invaluable because of the battery life and since the fingerprint works like 95% of the time, I say it's OK, and don't really feel like complaining.
Plus, I'm one of those weird ones that prefers simple stock android.
Sorry for. The long post, but I feel this is what I wish someone would have told me when I was looking to buy this phone. I did a lot of fruitless research too before buying and those YouTube videos didn't say anything about the crude reality, it's clear that they don't test the phones for more than an hour.
I know I'll get flack/abuse for this, but here goes...
Whenever I browse this forum or Google anything to do with Huawei phones, all I get are discussions about maximising battery life and how "cool" it is that the phones kill off apps running in the background so users can squeeze more hours out of their damn battery.
I have chargers & battery packs all over the place. I have no *need* to get obsessed about how many days I can eke out my battery life.
I'm more concerned about getting maximum performance and being able to use my phone as I find most convenient/useful. So if I want to have 20 power hungry apps running in the background, then I'd like to be able to do so. Not be controlled like a child that isn't allowed to make up its own mind.
I turned on performance mode, thinking this would let me use the phone as I want to. But nope. The damn thing still kills off apps after a period it chooses.
I never had this problem with my Galaxy S10e; apps could just be left running for as long as I liked; I controlled my phone instead of vice versa.
Also the S10e was a far more refined phone; you don't get nearly so many options in the P30 Pro's menus to customise the device. And the number of times an app has just suddenly stopped working, requiring a restart of the device...
The reason I went for the p30 Pro was because it had glowing reviews and it ran Android 9 which allowed you to record phone conversations (a very important feature for me) which, after upgrading to Android 10, I could no longer do on the S10e. (I tried rooting the S10e & wish I hadn't as I've now made the thing useless, since most apps detect the root & refuse to run at all.
I'm no developer & don't have the ability, persistence, know-how or interest in spending hours taking further risks with the thing; I just need a phone to work in the manner I'm used to...!)
I wish I'd steered well clear of anything Huawei now, despite what all the reviews said when I opted to buy the phone; they were all focused on things I'm not bothered about or which just irritate me; the camera(s), battery life, huge wrap around display, etc, etc.
What a waste of several hundred pounds for a phone that is untrustworthy & whose firmware lacks the finesse of superior manufacturers' phones...
Agree!
I actually very happy with my P30 Pro, there was a stage when I wasn't and that was when android 10 killed the recording, but after a while some smart person came up with a way of fixing it so we could use it again so I'm all happy again - (But I'm just a run of the mill type user who might be lucky to use the phone 10 times a day..)
Unfortunately the only thing that disappointed me with the P30 Pro was the thing I cared about the most and the thing all the hype was about with the P30 Pro: the camera.
It's true, night photos are bright and detailed, but at the same time the strong yellow/orange tint kills it. Also, daytime photos are inconsistent: after 10.1 HDR is exaggerated, photos look flat and artificial. Before the update, it didn't impress me either with detail, texture or color.
The RYYB sensor has problems: taking long exposure photos at night or toward dark areas reveal a lot of hot pixels (blue/yellow/red weird pixels in black areas). Also white balance is not good at all.
And I could go on about the camera...
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Super late, but can't not respond to this, but umm, did you try to maybe turn off the automatic app management in the battery settings? Same place you find Performance mode, you can go into App launch and just click on, then off the "Manage all automatically" setting.
I have never liked people who try a piece of tech out for less than 5 seconds, then complain about nothing working because they didn't take the time to learn how it works. Sorry, no offense, but come on, dude...
mircea89fzr said:
Unfortunately the only thing that disappointed me with the P30 Pro was the thing I cared about the most and the thing all the hype was about with the P30 Pro: the camera.
It's true, night photos are bright and detailed, but at the same time the strong yellow/orange tint kills it. Also, daytime photos are inconsistent: after 10.1 HDR is exaggerated, photos look flat and artificial. Before the update, it didn't impress me either with detail, texture or color.
The RYYB sensor has problems: taking long exposure photos at night or toward dark areas reveal a lot of hot pixels (blue/yellow/red weird pixels in black areas). Also white balance is not good at all.
And I could go on about the camera...
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HDR makes images flatter. That's the entire point of it. It's used to have perfect dynamic range by taking pictures at multiple exposures and merging them. It's fantastic for editing pictures.
Personally I rarely use HDR, but I love using manual aperture, I can take and edit fantastic portrait photos with it.
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Super late, but can't not respond to this, but umm, did you try to maybe turn off the automatic app management in the battery settings? Same place you find Performance mode, you can go into App launch and just click on, then off the "Manage all automatically" setting.
I have never liked people who try a piece of tech out for less than 5 seconds, then complain about nothing working because they didn't take the time to learn how it works. Sorry, no offense, but come on, dude...
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Ahem, my friend. I paid some £800 for the thing; I'm not some stupid, spendthrift idiot who has no idea of what he's doing.
I spent *months* getting acquainted with the P30 Pro; after spending all that money on it, I'd NO INTENTION of simply dumping it without trying to make it work as I wanted it to.
You, however, quite clearly are someone who doesn't demand much from your phone/tech; just as long as the camera's good, said tech is *brilliant*, right?
Now THAT'S the hallmark of someone who may well take the time to see how "cool" all the "flashy" [email protected] is: "Oooh, the camera is AWESOME!" or "Ahhhh... The screen is REALLY bright!"... yadda, yadda ()
(This explains why you're quite satisfied with the P30 Pro; you clearly don't demand much from your tech, as I said above.)
... But for someone who needs a *bit* more than a flashy camera & a bright screen from their phone to be impressed (for example likes to have several apps open simultaneously & multitasking) the P30 fails completely, because Huawei prioritise maximising battery life over letting those of us who're smart enough to look beyond the "awesome" camera and really "bright" screen of our shiny new P30 and want to use it the way *WE* want to use it; it actively kills apps it believes you don't need, as it assumes you're a clueless fool who has no idea what he really wants to do with his phone. Go ahead; open, say 10-15 apps on your P30. Give it 30 mins to an hour then see how many of those apps are still open...
So "no offence", "dude", but I rather think you need to stick to being wowed by your P30's bright screen & flashy camera and let the big boys who actually need their phone to perform for reasons of productivity, choose proper grown up devices which *don't* assume they're being used by kids who just want to take really cool social media photos/videos & thus don't care that their devices dictate what they can & cannot do.
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Ahem, my friend. I paid some £800 for the thing; I'm not some stupid, spendthrift idiot who has no idea of what he's doing.
I spent *months* getting acquainted with the P30 Pro; after spending all that money on it, I'd NO INTENTION of simply dumping it without trying to make it work as I wanted it to.
You, however, quite clearly are someone who doesn't demand much from your phone/tech; just as long as the camera's good, said tech is *brilliant*, right?
Now THAT'S the hallmark of someone who may well take the time to see how "cool" all the "flashy" [email protected] is: "Oooh, the camera is AWESOME!" or "Ahhhh... The screen is REALLY bright!"... yadda, yadda ()
(This explains why you're quite satisfied with the P30 Pro; you clearly don't demand much from your tech, as I said above.)
... But for someone who needs a *bit* more than a flashy camera & a bright screen from their phone to be impressed (for example likes to have several apps open simultaneously & multitasking) the P30 fails completely, because Huawei prioritise maximising battery life over letting those of us who're smart enough to look beyond the "awesome" camera and really "bright" screen of our shiny new P30 and want to use it the way *WE* want to use it; it actively kills apps it believes you don't need, as it assumes you're a clueless fool who has no idea what he really wants to do with his phone. Go ahead; open, say 10-15 apps on your P30. Give it 30 mins to an hour then see how many of those apps are still open...
So "no offence", "dude", but I rather think you need to stick to being wowed by your P30's bright screen & flashy camera and let the big boys who actually need their phone to perform for reasons of productivity, choose proper grown up devices which *don't* assume they're being used by kids who just want to take really cool social media photos/videos & thus don't care that their devices dictate what they can & cannot do.
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... Oh, and yes, I tried ALL "battery management" settings. Huawei have a taskiller process running constantly that monitors and kills running apps that it thinks you don't need running; no amount of switching management modes in the settings changes this; some have said ADB can be used to kill off the battery monitoring process, but I didn't find this effective either.
I'd suggest you do your research in future, my friend, before firing off baseless comments...
LiVeenx said:
HDR makes images flatter. That's the entire point of it. It's used to have perfect dynamic range by taking pictures at multiple exposures and merging them. It's fantastic for editing pictures.
Personally I rarely use HDR, but I love using manual aperture, I can take and edit fantastic portrait photos with it.
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There has to be a balance. I said their HDR became too aggressive starting with some update I don't remember. You can't do much editing with flat, artificial looking JPEGs. Shooting Pro Mode is another story.
LiVeenx said:
Super late, but can't not respond to this, but umm, did you try to maybe turn off the automatic app management in the battery settings? Same place you find Performance mode, you can go into App launch and just click on, then off the "Manage all automatically" setting.
I have never liked people who try a piece of tech out for less than 5 seconds, then complain about nothing working because they didn't take the time to learn how it works. Sorry, no offense, but come on, dude...
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It is well known how aggressive Huawei is with background task killing. How do you think it gets such excellent battery life (yes, that and UI Speed are the only positives I've found). Test it yourself if you own a Huawei Phone (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.urbandroid.dontkillmyapp ). The way I used to force an application to stay alive in background was to disable all battery/app specific optimizations (there are two different menus, I don't quite remember as I sold my P30 Pro two weeks ago).
Ivanlc73 said:
Ahem, my friend. I paid some £800 for the thing; I'm not some stupid, spendthrift idiot who has no idea of what he's doing.
I spent *months* getting acquainted with the P30 Pro; after spending all that money on it, I'd NO INTENTION of simply dumping it without trying to make it work as I wanted it to.
You, however, quite clearly are someone who doesn't demand much from your phone/tech; just as long as the camera's good, said tech is *brilliant*, right?
Now THAT'S the hallmark of someone who may well take the time to see how "cool" all the "flashy" [email protected] is: "Oooh, the camera is AWESOME!" or "Ahhhh... The screen is REALLY bright!"... yadda, yadda ()
(This explains why you're quite satisfied with the P30 Pro; you clearly don't demand much from your tech, as I said above.)
... But for someone who needs a *bit* more than a flashy camera & a bright screen from their phone to be impressed (for example likes to have several apps open simultaneously & multitasking) the P30 fails completely, because Huawei prioritise maximising battery life over letting those of us who're smart enough to look beyond the "awesome" camera and really "bright" screen of our shiny new P30 and want to use it the way *WE* want to use it; it actively kills apps it believes you don't need, as it assumes you're a clueless fool who has no idea what he really wants to do with his phone. Go ahead; open, say 10-15 apps on your P30. Give it 30 mins to an hour then see how many of those apps are still open...
So "no offence", "dude", but I rather think you need to stick to being wowed by your P30's bright screen & flashy camera and let the big boys who actually need their phone to perform for reasons of productivity, choose proper grown up devices which *don't* assume they're being used by kids who just want to take really cool social media photos/videos & thus don't care that their devices dictate what they can & cannot do.
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You're 100% right. I also spent a lot of money on that phone, but got disappointed very fast. I bought it especially for the camera. I tried tried to lie myself the camera is actually good, but it got so bad with updates that I couldn't anymore (like I said above, very aggressive and unnecessary HDR, vegetation looks awful in general, skin/people look pale, weird and with no detail etc.). I went back to the Samsung Note series, although in my region they sell the Exynos variant. I had the Note 3, Note 5 and 8, I now bought the 20 Ultra and, except the throttling, I'm very pleased: photos look beautiful and I have true multitasking (it took EMUI 11 to get floating windows in 2021 which my 4 year old Note 8 already had, apps don't close in background) which helps with productivity.
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You're 100% right. I also spent a lot of money on that phone, but got disappointed very fast. I bought it especially for the camera. I tried tried to lie myself the camera is actually good, but it got so bad with updates that I couldn't anymore (like I said above, very aggressive and unnecessary HDR, vegetation looks awful in general, skin/people look pale, weird and with no detail etc.). I went back to the Samsung Note series, although in my region they sell the Exynos variant. I had the Note 3, Note 5 and 8, I now bought the 20 Ultra and, except the throttling, I'm very pleased: photos look beautiful and I have true multitasking (it took EMUI 11 to get floating windows in 2021 which my 4 year old Note 8 already had, apps don't close in background) which helps with productivity.
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As I'd indicated to iDon'tDemandMuchFromMyTech guy (@LiVeenx), I'm not really bothered by a phone's camera; it's fairly incidental, as cams are just not a priority for me. (Although having said that, quite ironically, I recently acquired a 2 month old kitten with whom I have fallen deeply in love , so I'm currently actually using the camera on my S20 FE more than I've used the cameras in *all* the previous smartphones - plus the one digicam I bought in the early 00s - that I've ever owned, combined!! )
So I can't comment on how good or not the cam is on the Huawei, but everything else has the polish my previous S10e did; before I rooted it with Magisk and made it essentially useless, as none of the banking apps - or any functionality that you wouldn't even *suspect* would be affected by tripping Knox - worked.
I honestly don't get why anyone would root a phone these days; there's just too much that gets compromised.
I'd say my S10e is now just an expensive paperweight, but it's even useless for that since it's such a slim and light device...!
But yes, my Huawei rubbish has now been relegated to "temporary backup device"; that's all I'd really trust it to be now...
Btw, what "throttling" were you referring to on your S20 Ultra...?
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As I'd indicated to iDon'tDemandMuchFromMyTech guy (@LiVeenx), I'm not really bothered by a phone's camera; it's fairly incidental, as cams are just not a priority for me. (Although having said that, quite ironically, I recently acquired a 2 month old kitten with whom I have fallen deeply in love , so I'm currently actually using the camera on my S20 FE more than I've used the cameras in *all* the previous smartphones - plus the one digicam I bought in the early 00s - that I've ever owned, combined!! )
So I can't comment on how good or not the cam is on the Huawei, but everything else has the polish my previous S10e did; before I rooted it with Magisk and made it essentially useless, as none of the banking apps - or any functionality that you wouldn't even *suspect* would be affected by tripping Knox - worked.
I honestly don't get why anyone would root a phone these days; there's just too much that gets compromised.
I'd say my S10e is now just an expensive paperweight, but it's even useless for that since it's such a slim and light device...!
But yes, my Huawei rubbish has now been relegated to "temporary backup device"; that's all I'd really trust it to be now...
Btw, what "throttling" were you referring to on your S20 Ultra...?
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We all have different priorities when we buy a phone, although in a certain price range, there shouldn't be any compromise. The P30 Pro and the P series especially was renowned (or still is) for it's cameras. To be honest, when compared side by side, the P30 has the same level of detail in photos as the Note 20 Ultra, which is amazing if we consider the 2 year gap between them, but with the issues mentioned above, I got to hate that camera and it's RYYB sensor.
Speaking about functionality, it's been years since I felt the need to root my phone. The last phone I rooted was the S Note 5. Starting with my S Note 8 and Samsung One UI I didn't need rooting anymore as it was pretty fast, had plenty of features, looked good, but I also realized the risks of losing functionality or OTAs.
The Note 20 as the S20 internationally use the Exynos 990 processor, while in Korea or USA they use the Snapdragon 865 and 865+ in the Note. The Exynos is inferior: less performance, more power consumption and it also generates more heat which, when on high demand, puts the CPU in throttling (by downclocking/lowering it's running frequency) and, of course, degrades the performance.