Outdoor visibility (max brightness) - Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review

Rate this thread to express how well you can see the Samsung Galaxy Note 10+'s display outdoors. In case you've been playing Minecraft for 18 months straight, you might not known how to get outside anymore. Well, find the door and walk through it. A higher rating indicates that it has very high maximum brightness and thus fantastic outdoor visibility in direct sunlight.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

For a phone of this stature and price, could have tossed in a better refresh rate.

I own this along with an iPhone 11 pro.
The iPhone 11 is much more visible outdoors.

lbreak said:
I own this along with an iPhone 11 pro.
The iPhone 11 is much more visible outdoors.
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No it's not lol. The note gets 300 Nits brighter

Among the brightest phones, according to the specs. And my experience with it has just confirmed it. I never felt the need to crank it up to max however, as there isn't a huge difference between setting brightness to 70% and to 100%, whether indoors or outdoors. I suppose the brightness increase is not really linear? In any case, more than satisfactory.

pafc66 said:
No it's not lol. The note gets 300 Nits brighter
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Try holding them side by side together on a sunny day with the Note set to auto brightness so you can get the max theoretical brightness.
It's night and day, no pun intended. The iPhone is hugely more visible.
Not only is the iPhone greatly more visible, but the Note's battery completely clonks out when the screen is bright while the iPhone just powers on.
I'm not Samsung bashing here. I've had every Note since the Note 2. Just stating what I see.

Well, some other factors may influence here, I use vivid screen mode with coolest tone settings and high performance mode which cranks brightness up 10% more, I have no iphone 11 to make a side by side comparison, but things may be different with the settings I mention, and about battery, well, a brighter screen of course will eat a lot more battery juice

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I own this along with an iPhone 11 pro.
The iPhone 11 is much more visible outdoors.
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Turn on vivid verses natural.
That said limit viewing in direct sunlight to seconds not minutes. I limit brightness to a max of 50% (some vids need higher). Used like this* the display will easily last many years and thousands of hours of SOT with no display degradation.
*use dark mode and what icons, wallpaper you use to extent battery and display life.
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Screen color temps between units

Here's a side-by-side of two ATT GS2s on auto brightness showing the same application. The one on the left has a bluish/greenish tinge to the display, while the one on the right looks...I dunno...pinkish? Almost dirty by comparison, at least to my eyes, as it's much harder to read in low light settings. I thought at first it was the Helvetica vs stock font, but it's clearly the panel's lighting characteristics.
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Here are the same phones again running the 'dead pixel test' from the Market, set to max brightness on the white screen color test.
The one on the right doesn't seem to be able to produce a true white.
Now, I get that there are different screen suppliers, and manufacturing variances among panel batches, but this whole thing has me a little disappointed at Samsung's QC. I would love to know what qualifies as a successful screen test, because the one on the right is a huge disappointment to my eyes. Just for the hell of it I compared both screens to my old Captivate, and to my surprise that had the most accurate color reproduction of the three.
How bout you guys - true whites on your screen? (try the gmail app, for example) Maybe I just got a bad batch?
The screen on my SGS2 has no colot tinge whatsoever. It's white and bright. I did however notice a bluish tint on my Infuse; which drove me crazy. I actually exchanged 3 Infuses because of a flaw in market where I got the "unable to download, insufficient memory on device". Each Infuse had a different tint, or brightness to the display. I switched to thw SGS2 and haven't looked back since.
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Wow... big difference.... what the hell...
I thought this too about my SGSII when comparing it side-by-side with store units... Turned out for me the brightness was the same but another setting (adjust screen to save battery or something like that) was checked on my phone, making the screen look like crap on some colors, including making white look gray and yellow look bluish. Once I uchecked that box the display looked fine.
yeah I am anal about colors too. Being a photographer.
So I was looking for ways to improve the displays on my SGS2(now returned).
I have a Gretag i1-Pro spectrophotometer that I use for calibration and also matching color swatches. So I 'calibrated' my screen to the best of the available software. There is a program call 'Screen Adjuster' you guys can use to alter the RGB values. However gama will be off, and you can only calibrate EITHER high bias RGB or low bias RGB. There is no way to calibrate both.
Have you tried Supercurio screen tune? He just started making it but can probably help you out with colors and such.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1313652
QC and screen temperature were both big issues with the ISGS2 when it launched. There's a 100 page thread that's been talking about it since May. Five ISGS2's side-by-side all had from slight to wild differences in color temperature. Some of the ROMs also alter color temperature which makes it even more confusing. Cool/blue is what's intended to be normal and warm/yellow is the exception. The phone on the right in the pic looks like it has a warmer screen. I'd guess they changed either the screen or manufacturing process for the ASGS2 or you guys would have been freaking out by now.
P.S. - Samsung manufactures all their own displays and they all come from the same factories. So if there are differences it's QC or allowable deviation.

Screen brightness

Just walked into a corporate store to check this thing out and get a feel for it, see if its worth leaving a GS III. Everything about it seems legit, except the screen set to full brightness still seemed too dim. Might just be the AMOLED screens spoiling my eyes for the last 2 years, but just wanted some comments from owners who have been able to take this thing outside.
So how is the brightness for you guys? Is it still fairly viewable in sunlight? Please no discussions about color clarity/saturation. I know it doesn't hold a candle to reproducing vibrant colors like OLED does.
I went out in full daylight and could see perfectly clear. First time ever on a smartphone that I've never had to cup my hands around the screen to see
Sent from my Droid DNA. 1080p never looked so sweet
Awesome. I was initially concerned with it being LCD, but I remember reading on a few sites that the superiority in SLCD3 was its manufacturing quality and clarity. I guess that coupled with the display being bonded better and closer to the surface translates into better visibility. Thanks for responding.
It is interesting to hear others review on this screen.
Since the major reason I did not buy galaxy 3 or note is AMOLED screen really looks dime even max brightess is only equel to my htc one x 's 50% brightness level which I can not accept.
It's a beautiful sunny day in Los Angeles.
Walked outside.
Had no issue seeing the screen contents.
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So how is the brightness for you guys?
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We decided to pit the Droid DNA against the iPhone 5, Nexus 4, HTC One X, and Samsung Galaxy S III (from left to right it's the iPhone, Nexus 4, Droid DNA, One X, and Galaxy S III). All screens were turned up to maximum brightness, as can be seen in the photo above. The first thing you'll note is that the Droid DNA isn't the brightest by a long shot; that title still belongs to the iPhone 5, followed by the One X (though the One X seems brighter because there are simply more pixels in total). Disappointing? Yes, though it's still plenty bright enough to be visible in daylight.
http://gizmodo.com/5960289/htc-droid-dna-vs-iphone-5-and-everyone-else-whos-got-the-best-display​
The displays on the One X+ and 8X are 20% dimmer than the OG One X too. Previous One X's had panels from Sony, Acer, and Sharp. The new display on the One X+ is from a mysterious fourth vendor (0x944a03) that hasn't been identified yet. Maybe HTC's changed panel vendor's for their new devices?

How's your Mate 10 doing?

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How's your battery life in your Mate 10? Please share some Screenshots and also SOT acquired before depletion.
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Good.
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If only gaming on PUBG SOT drop to 4h since the game has a drain of 25%/h
I rarely let the battery drop below 20% and charge more than 80% to limit stress on battery, and it last for a full day.
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Wifi, data, gps, screen rotation always ON.
Cool! There might be differenciation between the Mate 10 and Mate 10 Pro in terms of SOT because both the phones have a OLED and LCD Screen. I'm easily achieving 6hr 45min of SOT provided that I charge the battery up to 100 percent and a depletion now lesser than 20 percent.
Gaming vice, yes. PUBG is a CPU / GPU hogging game whereby it sucks the most out of it. Depleting battery with a higher temperature is one of the contributing factor to a sturdy battery. GPU Turbo does indeed help in terms of thermal dissipation but then no much can be done since Mate 10 doesn't have the liquid cooling technology.
Yep, I'm using only black/grey background, it can help a lot since screen is like 60% of the drain in normal use.
I forgot to say it was with auto brightness ON too.
For me the mate 10 pro is really good with this game. Best battery drain of all the coworker team when playing, including iPhone 8+, one plus 5t, mate 9, iPhone5s (that just literaly burn in 20 minutes xD). Temperature are good too, since it's just warm like 35-38°C, with higher settings after 30min of game. But I still don't have GPU turbo, dunno why, I don't have the game center app. It was said activating it drains more battery, so I don't really care, I play on Switch and PC, phone are just for little break and 30FPS are far enought for me.
I think 3-4h SOT on handeld gaming is really great, Switch and 3DS don't do far more on demanding games.
My 950XL with liquid cooling got hotter, but Snapdragon 810 had an infamous hot temper too.
It was great but after October google's security update it doesn't seem well (no idea why this happened) and now im wating for pie maybe it gets a bit better
And I use my phone a lot (3 charges a day from 40 to 80 usually) and never lets it's charge drop below 40%

[Mi 9 vs Honor 20 Pro] Night Photography Comparison Test Shoutout

The Mi 9 delivers authentic colors and terrific long-range performance, but the Honor 20 Pro's paradigm-shifting Night mode is more versatile and aesthetic.
Even with the tremendous advances in smartphone photography, clear night photos remain the exception, not the rule. At close range, we're treated to blinding glares and blurry light columns, which provide the effect of cheap studio lighting. At long range, a brilliant cityscape is often reduced to a distant haze.
That's why it was such a joy to play around with the Mi 9 and Honor 20 Pro. Both phones perform admirably, taking bright and sharp night photos, but while the Honor 20 Pro features sterling performance in every conceivable low-light environment, the Mi 9 has a few conspicuous flaws that limit its versatility in close range shots. I'd recommend either model for photography enthusiasts, and reserve high praise for the Honor 20 Pro.
Distance Shots
First, a look at some long-range shots. Both pictures below are stunning, the kind you'd happily post on Instagram if you're exploring a new city after dark.
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On a more subjective note, I prefer the landscape colors on the Honor 20 Pro. The colors on the new Xiaomi model meet the naked eye test, and are actually more authentic. The sky was that shade of gray-blue, not the Starry Night-reminiscent deep blue in the Honor phone shot, and the bridge was a duller orange-gold as seen in the Mi 9 photo.
Van Gogh took some liberties with the night sky, and so does the Honor 20 Pro, in order to create a richer visual tapestry. This is a philosophical difference. There's something to be said for an honest reproduction of reality. Nonetheless, I'd guess that most users are like me, and prefer impressive night photos to completely realistic ones. We have 16 waking hours a day to view the world as is; pictures are by their nature, moments in time that are intended to dazzle.
Portrait Shots
Details are also better retained by the Honor 20 Pro, and this becomes obvious when a night portrait shot is taken. Foreground object recognition and color reproduction are consistently superior on the Honor 20 Pro, though they are still quite good on the Mi 9.
Color is the greatest area of discrepancy. The red and blue railing leaps off the screen in the Honor shot, the light reflections on the water are fuller colors, and the grass below me can be identified as green. By contrast, in the Xiaomi shot, the railing is duller, reflections much less vibrant, and the grass is barely discernible.
One area that both cameras could improve on is the HDR portrait effect, which is just a bit too dramatic in both shots. My profile is quite conspicuous against the background, with a quasi-photoshopped effect, but that's I guess a small price to pay for colorful portrait shots at night.
The starkest difference occurs when direct lighting intrudes on a night scene. The pictures speak for themselves.
There you have it. Two phones, and two night modes: one extraordinary, and the other merely excellent. It didn't take too long to discover that, because as the poem goes, the night has a thousand eyes.

No cure for burn in?

On many LG devices, there is "kcal" settings to tune the display to eliminate screen burn.
Here's a good example:- https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...ontrast-and-also-get-rid-of-ghosting.3653992/
I cannot find any alternative or anything similar on the S8 or S9 forums which is strange considering burn in is a big issue on our devices too.
My question is, why is there no similar cure, what am I missing?, Or have I not being look hard enough?
TIA
TheInfiniteAndroid said:
On many LG devices, there is "kcal" settings to tune the display to eliminate screen burn.
Here's a good example:- https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...ontrast-and-also-get-rid-of-ghosting.3653992/
I cannot find any alternative or anything similar on the S8 or S9 forums which is strange considering burn in is a big issue on our devices too.
My question is, why is there no similar cure, what am I missing?, Or have I not being look hard enough?
TIA
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The OLED pixels are failing. The calibration and color accuracy as well. Since blue pixels die first any compensation be limited and you would lose color/gamma calibration. The blue pixel output is already near its max when new compared to the other pixel colors.
Red pixels generally have the longest lifespan. No way you can accurately color calibrate one of these display by eye.
Once an OLED display is degraded only a new display will really fix it.
The only thing you can do is reduce the wear by not using in direct sunlight. Use manual brightness control and keep below 50%. Use max brightness for seconds not minutes. Use dark mode and get rid of the notification icons at the top. Use dark wallpaper and red or darker icon packs. This N10+ has over 8k hours on it. No detectable display damage or degradation.
Limit exposure to sunlight and excessive temperatures including during storage.
A hot running phone is burning both the battery and display. Correct the cause of excessive power consumption.
OLEDs are very susceptible to water damage; keep water away from phones even if ip68 rated.
My N10+ AMOLED conservation management strategy. So far it remains in excellent condition even though it's been heavily used daily almost every day for 3 years. I slightly rotate the static homepage icons every month or so. Newer Samsung's incorporate pixel shifting as well.
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