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Hi all!
I bought my GS2 about 3 weeks ago, it had 2.3.4 on it. I didn't root it, I didn't hack anything on it since then.
Two nights ago I installed the official 2.3.6 update from AT&T/Samsung. I was absolutely delighted by how easy and effortless the update was: it downloaded the 20 MB update package over WiFi, it automatically rebooted my phone, it applied the update, automatically rebooted it again, and voila, in about 4-5 minutes I had a new kernel version, a new Android version, and a new baseband version installed and ready to be used on my phone.
Note that I didn't have to root my phone for this and it also preserved all my apps and settings.
So, I have a likely naive question: why don't kernel and OS mods use the same procedure to install themselves? There's obviously a way to update the kernel easily, because it just happened to me 2 nights ago. Same for the OS update. So, why not just "hijack" AT&T's official update procedure for making kernel and OS mod installs as user-friendly as possible? If there are specific technical reasons preventing us from doing so, please, do explain them to me - I am a software engineer, I will understand, although I am an Android n00b.
I'm not 100% sure, but they probably use signed packages, and without the proper key, it won't let you update.
The update files from att are signed. If you can figure out or get your hands on the signature keys you could create any install (including kernels and roms) in an update file that could be installed simply with the stock recovery.
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imreolajos said:
Hi all!
I bought my GS2 about 3 weeks ago, it had 2.3.4 on it. I didn't root it, I didn't hack anything on it since then.
Two nights ago I installed the official 2.3.6 update from AT&T/Samsung. I was absolutely delighted by how easy and effortless the update was: it downloaded the 20 MB update package over WiFi, it automatically rebooted my phone, it applied the update, automatically rebooted it again, and voila, in about 4-5 minutes I had a new kernel version, a new Android version, and a new baseband version installed and ready to be used on my phone.
Note that I didn't have to root my phone for this and it also preserved all my apps and settings.
So, I have a likely naive question: why don't kernel and OS mods use the same procedure to install themselves? There's obviously a way to update the kernel easily, because it just happened to me 2 nights ago. Same for the OS update. So, why not just "hijack" AT&T's official update procedure for making kernel and OS mod installs as user-friendly as possible? If there are specific technical reasons preventing us from doing so, please, do explain them to me - I am a software engineer, I will understand, although I am an Android n00b.
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Not to mention making things too easy is a big reason for far more bricks then there should be.
Flashing a custom rom is not ment to be easy as the min you root it you voided your warranty and returning after the fact if you mess up is fraud.
penguinlogik said:
I'm not 100% sure, but they probably use signed packages, and without the proper key, it won't let you update.
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Correct - stock recovery will only flash packages that have been signed by Samsung or AT&T.
.. and who doesn't like booting into recovery and flashing yourself
Makes me feel like I know what I'm doing
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zelendel said:
Not to mention making things too easy is a big reason for far more bricks then there should be.
Flashing a custom rom is not ment to be easy as the min you root it you voided your warranty and returning after the fact if you mess up is fraud.
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Unless your root procedure or use thereof caused the phone or hardware to fail then this statement is not 100% true.
Read up on the Magnusson-Moss Act....of course, the burden is on the consumer to fight it.
To me, a phoned is really a cheap disposable piece of hardware. I prefer to take the risk of damage from use that may void my warranty. To me, having my phone (or car, motorcycle,etc...) work the way I want is more valuable than the peace of mind that a warranty provides.
Back on topic... Flashing a ROM is already pretty damn easy. I've done the entire procedure while sitting at red lights on the way home from work... I wouldn't expect a Dev to jump through the necessary hoops to mimic an OTA update
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zelendel said:
Flashing a custom rom is not ment to be easy as the min you root it you voided your warranty and returning after the fact if you mess up is fraud.
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Oh please.
And even if it is, these companies deserve it.
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MikeyMike01 said:
Oh please.
And even if it is, these companies deserve it.
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Without these companies we wouldn't have these products
But yeah, they can be a little unfair at times.
the phone in question is a T mobile Galaxy S5, used to be mine running full root since 4.4.4 and had cn 11 on it, now wife is useing it and she wated it stock, so I odined the latest stock t mobile 5.0 firmware onto it, since then it has updated twice to 5.1.1 as I'm not too familiar with 5.1.1 I figured I better ask if it can be rooted.
if it can it will be much appreciated, right now it has done random reboots three times so far today and she is about to go back to Applel
5.1.1 can be rooted using hispasian's kernel. It can find in the android development thread. BTW, tell your wife that Apple is tight about "rolling back" and/or if at all, to previous ios versions if the new version stinks. I was lucky to perform rollbacks on older iphone generations but the newer ones are harder for obvious reasons. I stayed on 4.4.2 because of towelroot -- I'm not too fond of 5.1.1 because of the lag and unstable root methods right now.
Any questions? Please let me know. We would wan't want your spouse to join the "dark side" we call Apple. =) <couldn't resist the star wars pun there>
Thanks I'll loom there here in a minute I want her to be an android person I like androids better because you can remove the SD card, Apple has no SD card, plus as long as it's not a s6 you can swap batteries, I usually keep two spares in my Jeep when we go looking in NC for houses just in case
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I meant FOL1 in the original thread
Please excuse my stupidity
well in another thread i was wondering if flashing TWRP+CM still works on FOL1 & the user said yes, so.... i'm sure root is always possible, unless your question is to keep knox (you're probably out of warranty anyway)
there are modified TW roms that are prerooted if self rooting fails
random reboots with what apps installed? disable any you dont use, disable gestures, samsung crap, etc etc...
I don't want knox, I don't want 5.1.1 either what I want is to put 4.4.4 on in or 4.4.2 and root it real fast before it updates
wolfen1086 said:
I don't want knox, I don't want 5.1.1 either what I want is to put 4.4.4 on in or 4.4.2 and root it real fast before it updates
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not sure what the rush is, there is no such thing as sudden updates that you cant stop, if you flash 4.4 then it's stuck on 4.4, but what if the newer baseband wont work well with the old android?
also, 4.4 is crap, you'll be insecure with fewer features & so on
i really find it unlikely that 5.1.1 is causing all problems, also you could even try 5.0.1
wolfen1086 said:
I don't want knox, I don't want 5.1.1 either what I want is to put 4.4.4 on in or 4.4.2 and root it real fast before it updates
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Turn off wifi and mobile data....
I tried but I was too late it went to 5.1.1, it is rooted though so until XDA cones out with a way to unlock the bootloader I have to wait. Because if I try installing TWRP like I did at first it hangs on the custom love indicator screen
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wolfen1086 said:
I tried but I was too late it went to 5.1.1, it is rooted though so until XDA cones out with a way to unlock the bootloader I have to wait. Because if I try installing TWRP like I did at first it hangs on the custom love indicator screen
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uh, at&t variant is locked, tmobile is unlocked... something is odd with this whole thread
Is there a root method for FOL1 that doesn't void Knox?
Playb3yond said:
Is there a root method for FOL1 that doesn't void Knox?
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No, but it's hilariously easy to get Samsung to honor a warranty on a device with a tripped Knox flag, if that's what you're worried about
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No, but it's hilariously easy to get Samsung to honor a warranty on a device with a tripped Knox flag, if that's what you're worried about
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What about OneClickRoot.apk
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No, but it's hilariously easy to get Samsung to honor a warranty on a device with a tripped Knox flag, if that's what you're worried about
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What about OneClickRoot.apk
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No, but it's hilariously easy to get Samsung to honor a warranty on a device with a tripped Knox flag, if that's what you're worried about
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While googling around for anything about SamFAIL for my newly purchased Note 8 running Oreo out of the box I ran across something that made me curious on some other Android (Somewhat suspicious) news website, and it lists the creator for the (new) SamFAIL for Oreo by @me2151 ..
I found it here https://www.androidinfotech.com/201...-t-mobile-usa-sm-n950u-oreo-install-twrp.html
Since I have not seen anything close to this on XDA I assumed it was fake, but the files are attached to @me2151 's Android File Host..
I am new to the Note 8 forums and I have not seen any chatter on getting Root on this device..
Can anyone shed some light on this, or is this a red herring?
100% fake. talks about installing Twrp... NEVER believe those sites.
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100% fake. talks about installing Twrp... NEVER believe those sites.
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Yeah I thought so.. Thanks
Couldn't you revert back to nougat then get root through samfail?
CCJ22 said:
Couldn't you revert back to nougat then get root through samfail?
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Nope... Rolling back is blocked.
MrMike2182 said:
Nope... Rolling back is blocked.
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Fawk me. Ridiculous what these OEM's are doing nowadays.
New Root Method For Note 8 SM-N950U/U1 V7 Bootloaders
Rooted Nougat RomThis is last nougat rom made for note 8 it is prerooted with flashfire and safestrap preinstalled. It has CSC stuff for all carriers added. Its debloated slightly with knox removed. Some stuff may not work but im not sure as I cannot test but this stuff may include fingerprint and or face recognition. If stuff doesnt work it probably related to using pie modems and non-hlos on a nougat rom which you have no choice.
Downloads
Rooted_N950USQS3BRB4.rar
BL_N950_NOUGAT_V7.tar.7z
Includes Fingerprint and Face Unlock fix for above nougat rom. Just flash in BL slot in odin after everything else
Safestrap-4.10-B03-GREATQLTE-PIE.zip Will boot straight to safestrap only for pie roms
Safestrap-4.10-B03-GREATQLTE-NOUGAT.zip Will Give you the safestrap splash screen on boot
Directions
Safestrap Method
1. Extract system.img from the Rooted_N950USQS3BRB4.rar and copy to phone reboot to safestarp and flash system image reboot to download and flash BL_N950_NOUGAT_V7.tar.md5 in odin
Good luck testers.
tested and confirmed working!
Now bring to n960u :cyclops:
jrkruse said:
tested and confirmed working!
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Wow that is amazing. Good work on getting this going!!!
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Now bring to n960u :cyclops:
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Already did one test with an unmodified system in edl and it failed like all the other times i tried it lol
@jrkruse Was there a particular reason RJ1 was chosen as the base combo instead of RG2?
The only difference I heard of was that RG2 actually was the DRK repair, where RJ1 did most of the other stuff.
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@jrkruse Was there a particular reason RJ1 was chosen as the base combo instead of RG2?
The only difference I heard of was that RG2 actually was the DRK repair, where RJ1 did most of the other stuff.
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it doesnt matter what v5 combo I am only using bootloaders on rooted rom and you just flash full combo system to be able to reboot to edl mode. The goal was to get root so safestrap can be used on Pie and thats been achieved.
This is excellent! Thanks guys!
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I have been waiting for this for quite some time. Thank you!
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can we add note 8 to description in batch file?
When flashing "COMBINATION_FA71_N950USQU5ARJ1_CL13942288_QB203914 89_REV00_user_mid_noship_MULTI_CERT.tar.md5 "
should I press BL+AP+others or just BL?
similar question, when flashing COMBINATION_FA71_N950USQU5ARJ1_BOOTLOADERS.tar should i select BL only or AP?
My baseband version is N950U1UEU1AQ15 build number NMF26X.N950USQU1AQ15 but I see different versions from romreactor below, am I still ok to flash?
One main question, which V5 firmware version is best for this root method, as I am still on firmware N950USQU2BQLA.
The V5 firmwares range from android 8.0 Oreo to 9.0 Pie and thus my question is out of all the V5 bootloader versions below which one is best for this root method for me to update to from my current version.
N950USQU5CRG7,
N950USQU5CRIA,
N950USQU5DSC1,
N950USQU5DSD3,
Also, couple newbie questions, 1. pre rooted firmware means Android Pie or Oreo with root access enabled right?
2. Does this root method allow you to flash custom roms of pie?
Ok, so I have been out of the rooting game for a couple of years now due to needing an engineering kernel and then losing 20% battery capacity. With this I am interested as I am running 5DSF6 currently. With this, are we only able to do the initial rooted ROM and have root access and customize from there or can we load different ROMS? Also, are kernels still out of the question with this method as well?
Also, congrats on getting this to work.
Romreactor said:
One main question, which V5 firmware version is best for this root method, as I am still on firmware N950USQU2BQLA.
The V5 firmwares range from android 8.0 Oreo to 9.0 Pie and thus my question is out of all the V5 bootloader versions below which one is best for this root method for me to update to from my current version.
N950USQU5CRG7,
N950USQU5CRIA,
N950USQU5DSC1,
N950USQU5DSD3,
Also, couple newbie questions, 1. pre rooted firmware means Android Pie or Oreo with root access enabled right?
2. Does this root method allow you to flash custom roms of pie?
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There is only root available for nougat. The whole reason for all of this was to get people a pie rom that has the ability to boot to safestrap. Now this isn’t root but in safestrap you can flash zips just like you can with twrp or flashfire you can backup data or delete apps or modify system files and most everything you do you will still pass safetynet . Of course you can run a prerooted nougat rom or make your own but you would have to run the combo bootloader and boot img so your stuck with those limitations. Nothing has changed since this phone was first rooted with samfail method.
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People on v3 v2.5 or v2 or v1 bootloaders there is really no reason to stay on those older bootloaders since this method works for v5 if you choose to use this method you will be updated to v5 bootloaders
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jrkruse said:
There is only root available for nougat. The whole reason for all of this was to get people a pie rom that has the ability to boot to safestrap. Now this isn’t root but in safestrap you can flash zips just like you can with twrp or flashfire you can backup data or delete apps or modify system files and most everything you do you will still pass safetynet . Of course you can run a prerooted nougat rom or make your own but you would have to run the combo bootloader and boot img so your stuck with those limitations. Nothing has changed since this phone was first rooted with samfail method.
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Ah ok... so to be clear and for those who may be seeking the same question:
Is the battery still stuck at 80%? (Unless one charges to 100% in DL mode.)
jrkruse said:
People on v3 v2.5 or v2 or v1 bootloaders there is really no reason to stay on those older bootloaders since this method works for v5 if you choose to use this method you will be updated to v5 bootloaders
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Also to add, for those who are on 7.1.1 Nougat like me and several others who want to preserve the BL, just know that once you roll up you can not roll back. I think it's important to emphasize this..
iunlock said:
Ah ok... so to be clear and for those who may be seeking the same question:
Is the battery still stuck at 80%? (Unless one charges to 100% in DL mode.)
Also to add, for those who are on 7.1.1 Nougat like me and several others who want to preserve the BL, just know that once you roll up you can not roll back. I think it's important to emphasize this..
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Just curious whats your reason for not updating bootloader to v5 now that you can root it as well
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jrkruse said:
Just curious whats your reason for not updating bootloader to v5 now that you can root it as well
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Because newer isn't always necessarily better. I'm of the minority and there are others like me who prefer to stay on the earlier firmwares.
The hopes of getting a full root early on was another reason, where had we blindly rolled up to the latest, it could have locked us out from taking advantage of a possible working root on an earlier BL. One rule of thumb is to never just jump on updates. We call them lock outs...and we kind of saw this with the original samfail root where those who updated could not roll back; but of course now it's possible which is great. Thanks again for making this happen and saving those who jumped early that never thought they would see a form of root.
There of course other reasons I like to stay put on earlier firmware versions, but that's for another conversation. @butchieboy, @KennyG123 and I go way back and they know.... We enjoy our Note 3's on 4.3, Note 4's on KK 4.4, Note 5 on MM etc...
iunlock said:
Because newer isn't always necessarily better. I'm of the minority and there are others like me who prefer to stay on the earlier firmwares.
The hopes of getting a full root early on was another reason, where had we blindly rolled up to the latest, it could have locked us out from taking advantage of a possible working root on an earlier BL. We kind of saw this with the original samfail root where those who updated could not roll back; but of course now it's possible which is great. Thanks again for making this happen and saving those who jumped early that never thought they would see a form of root.
There of course other reasons I like to stay put on earlier firmware versions, but that's for another conversation. @butchieboy, @KennyG123 and I go way back and they know.... We enjoy our Note 3's on 4.3, Note 4's on KK 4.4, Note 5 on MM etc...
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Each too their own im always just curious why people refuse to update and not fully utilize the potential of their phone but like you said newer isn’t always better
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@jrkruse
You are a true rock star. And I too thank you for bringing this to us[emoji106][emoji106]
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I'm a amateur but i'm willing to learn and put the time in,
I have put custom roms on all my previous phones and tweaked them to my preferences, but I have no idea where to start from the ground up, as usually more people are creating/playing with the same phone, this one seems to be the ugly duckling, wich noone seems to bother with. I have requested the unlock bootloader with the goal of rooting the phone. But before I start going in this rabbit hole, is it possible, and where can I start.
It's a great phone, just too much bloatware, I even have a weird issue that I can't open my accessibility. It keeps closing settings. and I want the android base, not the ZUI OS.
Same question dude..
The software of legion duel 2 make me doubt purchase or not that phone...
Is the software is too bad ?
kheden said:
Same question dude..
The software of legion duel 2 make me doubt purchase or not that phone...
Is the software is too bad?
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It's working, and not that it's bad, but not a fan of zui os, and the bloatware, I guess this site spoiled me, I was expecting a twrp and some custom os. for example , it gets hot very quick, and I assume its the bloat ware running in the background. I think we get a better deal with stock android than the zui os, even if I have to give up the rgb on the back
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It's working, and not that it's bad, but not a fan of zui os, and the bloatware, I guess this site spoiled me, I was expecting a twrp and some custom os. for example , it gets hot very quick, and I assume its the bloat ware running in the background. I think we get a better deal with stock android than the zui os, even if I have to give up the rgb on the back
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Yes... I see similar things in the reviews and comparison of this phone...
The smartphone gets hot.. when shouldn't make it...the two fans in combination with the steam chamber and the multiple layers of dissipation should be enough to dispel the high temperature...
And makes me think, that is the bad optimization of the software...
In combination of the bad update supports of the Motorola/Lenovo's phones ...
Makes me doubt purchase this phone...
The salvation of the weakness point of this phone is the community :'c ...
Well said! That's exactly how I feel
If you have unlocked your bootloader, flash a generic system image, or GSI. You can check it out on Google. Not all features works though.
LR7875 said:
If you have unlocked your bootloader, flash a generic system image, or GSI. You can check it out on Google. Not all features works though.
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yes that is what I want to do, just looking into what won't work and if I can replace or tweak it before I take the jump and brick the phone
gargoylsz said:
yes that is what I want to do, just looking into what won't work and if I can replace or tweak it before I take the jump and brick the phone
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Curious that how can you bruteforce the bootloader unlock
Remember to disable Verity by flashing the vbmeta.img at here under 'install gsi images' https://developer.android.com/topic/generic-system-image
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Curious that how can you bruteforce the bootloader unlock
Remember to disable Verity by flashing the vbmeta.img at here under 'install gsi images' https://developer.android.com/topic/generic-system-image
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I got the zui image, to unlock the boot loader, I still have to unlock it tho, and I want to try a gsi after that, I'm used to TWrp, and been a while since I put a gsi on a phone , but I should manage, I'll do it this weekend, I will keep you guys up to date, thanks for the tip, I will make sure to double check every step haha
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I got the zui image, to unlock the boot loader, I still have to unlock it tho, and I want to try a gsi after that, I'm used to TWrp, and been a while since I put a gsi on a phone , but I should manage, I'll do it this weekend, I will keep you guys up to date, thanks for the tip, I will make sure to double check every step haha
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GSIs are system images so you have to flash in fastboot(wipe in twrp first then fastboot flash system xxx.img)
At google's website, you can choose android 11 gsi, and even android 12 gsi. However they may not boot, if that's the case try luck with phh treble or erfangsi
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GSIs are system images so you have to flash in fastboot(wipe in twrp first then fastboot flash system xxx.img)
At google's website, you can choose android 11 gsi, and even android 12 gsi. However they may not boot, if that's the case try luck with phh treble or erfangsi
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Thanks for the tips! I will try it out, wish me luck !
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Thanks for the tips! I will try it out, wish me luck !
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Good Luck!!
And posted the results
gargoylsz said:
I'm a amateur but i'm willing to learn and put the time in,
I have put custom roms on all my previous phones and tweaked them to my preferences, but I have no idea where to start from the ground up, as usually more people are creating/playing with the same phone, this one seems to be the ugly duckling, wich noone seems to bother with. I have requested the unlock bootloader with the goal of rooting the phone. But before I start going in this rabbit hole, is it possible, and where can I start.
It's a great phone, just too much bloatware, I even have a weird issue that I can't open my accessibility. It keeps closing settings. and I want the android base, not the ZUI OS.
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Do i have a different Duel 2?
Because i don't see any bloatware and it runs almost on stock Android.
WhySoSeriousJoKer said:
Do i have a different Duel 2?
Because i don't see any bloatware and it runs almost on stock Android.
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I have the UK version and their is next to no blotewere on mine and since the new update I get all notifications ect and have a decent GCam working which definitely improves the cameras to be fair I hated this phone at first but now it not too bad just hope they release a few updates to keep it running good also I have package disabler pro too get rid of a few apps I don't use
My only wish is they would change widevine L3 to L1
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I have the UK version and their is next to no blotewere on mine and since the new update I get all notifications ect and have a decent GCam working which definitely improves the cameras to be fair I hated this phone at first but now it not too bad just hope they release a few updates to keep it running good also I have package disabler pro too get rid of a few apps I don't use
My only wish is they would change widevine L3 to L1
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Widevine is L3??? WTF????
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Widevine is L3??? WTF????
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Yep unfortunately I hope they change it as I've heard that the China ROM has widevine L1
brockyneo said:
I have the UK version and their is next to no blotewere on mine and since the new update I get all notifications ect and have a decent GCam working which definitely improves the cameras to be fair I hated this phone at first but now it not too bad just hope they release a few updates to keep it running good also I have package disabler pro too get rid of a few apps I don't use
My only wish is they would change widevine L3 to L1
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Hey there, what is you version? Is it 12.5.137 stable?
ABOBA34 said:
Hey there, what is you version? Is it 12.5.137 stable?
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Yes that's the version I'm on and it seems fine all is working ok for me seems better then before
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Yes that's the version I'm on and it seems fine all is working ok for me seems better then before
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Thank you for answer! Did you get it over OTA? I`m still on 12.5.062 and there is no update...
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Thank you for answer! Did you get it over OTA? I`m still on 12.5.062 and there is no update...
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It was OTA but it took a few days I think Lenovo release updates on sales so if you just bought the device it will take a few days to arrive but it will come
Are you in the uk?