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I want to share my opinion pros/cons after use this device for a week. I would frankly say what is good, what is bad.
The unit i have is Xiaomi mi note 2 128gb/6gb non-global version.
cons:
color shift on curve edges, it look abit blue by eye ( when screen is display light tone - white ). This not effect with dark tone color ( It look normal from flat to edges curve )
camera it come with older build compare to mi5s which announce 2 months before mi note 2. Mi note 2 come with imx318 which release since Feb 2016 compere to mi5s come with imx378 which release on Sep 2016. Look at that gap for possible improvement make me feel abit disappoint. ( but it also has a pros from sacrifice **see in Pros**)
It doesn't come with 3D touch (T_T)
LTE bands for non-global version. Why they remove FDD B8. but mi5s have 5 bands include B8
Benchmark Performance for 128/6gb model abit disappoint. It only get around 110k-125k on antutu, 1800SC 3900MC on Geekbench. Compare to other phone with this spec even mi note 64/4gb got higher. You also can see from this link: https://www.kimovil.com/en/best-smartphones-moviles/best-smartphones-antutu-benchmark
( I think this must be a software issue, with this spec it can improve with better ROM and Kernel. Still waiting for it )
Announce on the same day with Mi mix. Which pull down the hype on mi flagship (mi note2). Cause less developer taking eyes on mi note 2 over Mi mix by comparing on both forum.
Price per performance compare to mi5s.
Pros:
Battery 4070 mAh. DAMN!!! this make no wonder using this phone through a day. Daily use, message, phone call, browse, social, take photo, Bluetooth streaming, gaming, watch youtube still get spare juice before go to bed. No need to carry power bank around.
Feeling so good on hand. Its thin with that battery size. The dual curve edge feel premium. Whole Metal build + gorilla glass.
Spec sheet. even though i talk about performance above, But with this spec hardware there is huge gap to improve by software later.
Camera. Sacrifice newer model but what we get is image stabilization @4K and higher Megapixel. wide angle front facing camera.
Sound both on speaker and headphone quite good.
Equip with all kind of connectivity even infrared.
Fast and accurate fingerprint sensor.
Conclusion:
In real world scenario, i didn't feel any lag or slow performance. It still one of the fast/best phone in the market today. Camera is good just dont read the spec sheet. Feel premium on hand. Huge battery capacity more than enough for daily use, plus quick charge. Good sound. fast fingerprint scan. Have to wait abit for custom rom and kernel. Better if you can get global version.
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j321123123 said:
I want to share my opinion pros/cons after use this device for a week. I would frankly say what is good, what is bad.
The unit i have is Xiaomi mi note 2 128gb/6gb non-global version.
cons:
color shift on curve edges, it look abit blue by eye ( when screen is display light tone - white ). This not effect with dark tone color ( It look normal from flat to edges curve )
camera it come with older build compare to mi5s which announce 2 months before mi note 2. Mi note 2 come with imx318 which release since Feb 2016 compere to mi5s come with imx378 which release on Sep 2016. Look at that gap for possible improvement make me feel abit disappoint. ( but it also has a pros from sacrifice **see in Pros**)
It doesn't come with 3D touch (T_T)
LTE bands for non-global version. Why they remove FDD B8. but mi5s have 5 bands include B8
Benchmark Performance for 128/6gb model abit disappoint. It only get around 110k-125k on antutu, 1800SC 3900MC on Geekbench. Compare to other phone with this spec even mi note 64/4gb got higher. You also can see from this link: https://www.kimovil.com/en/best-smartphones-moviles/best-smartphones-antutu-benchmark
( I think this must be a software issue, with this spec it can improve with better ROM and Kernel. Still waiting for it )
Announce on the same day with Mi mix. Which pull down the hype on mi flagship (mi note2). Cause less developer taking eyes on mi note 2 over Mi mix by comparing on both forum.
Price per performance compare to mi5s.
Pros:
Battery 4070 mAh. DAMN!!! this make no wonder using this phone through a day. Daily use, message, phone call, browse, social, take photo, Bluetooth streaming, gaming, watch youtube still get spare juice before go to bed. No need to carry power bank around.
Feeling so good on hand. Its thin with that battery size. The dual curve edge feel premium. Whole Metal build + gorilla glass.
Spec sheet. even though i talk about performance above, But with this spec hardware there is huge gap to improve by software later.
Camera. Sacrifice newer model but what we get is image stabilization @4K and higher Megapixel. wide angle front facing camera.
Sound both on speaker and headphone quite good.
Equip with all kind of connectivity even infrared.
Fast and accurate fingerprint sensor.
Conclusion:
In real world scenario, i didn't feel any lag or slow performance. It still one of the fast/best phone in the market today. Camera is good just dont read the spec sheet. Feel premium on hand. Huge battery capacity more than enough for daily use, plus quick charge. Good sound. fast fingerprint scan. Have to wait abit for custom rom and kernel. Better if you can get global version.
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You can't really use these benchmark test for anything serious.
Here's my results:
AnTuTu: 162571
Geekbench 4: 1840 / 4403
j321123123 said:
I want to share my opinion pros/cons after use this device for a week. I would frankly say what is good, what is bad.
The unit i have is Xiaomi mi note 2 128gb/6gb non-global version.
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Does it play x265/hevc well? (use mx player + custom codec)
This is the thing I'm looking for in my next phone.
test file: http://jell.yfish.us/media/jellyfish-250-mbps-4k-uhd-hevc-10bit.mkv
from http://jell.yfish.us/
My Nvidia Shield TV & Google Pixel C play this with zero effort (both have the Nvidia Tegra X1 chip)
SoreGums said:
Does it play x265/hevc well? (use mx player + custom codec)
This is the thing I'm looking for in my next phone.
test file: http://jell.yfish.us/media/jellyfish-250-mbps-4k-uhd-hevc-10bit.mkv
from http://jell.yfish.us/
My Nvidia Shield TV & Google Pixel C play this with zero effort (both have the Nvidia Tegra X1 chip)
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SD 821 is much more powerful than tegra x1 and yes it plays 10 bit hevc videos. I have Nvidia shield TV too, ja it's good but SD 821 is faster and better.
zmajdk said:
You can't really use these benchmark test for anything serious.
Here's my results:
AnTuTu: 162571
Geekbench 4: 1840 / 4403
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Yes, I saw many 4gb mi note 2 benchmark around 145-160k. With my unit (6gb mi note 2) i expect to see better ram performance but i got even lower than 4gb model. I think with newer rom update could improve ram management on 6gb model.
But as i said on original post that real world use i didnt get any pull down performance.
Do you need to wake the phone to use the fingerprint sensor? Or is it like most phones that can be woken up and unlocked with a fingerprint scan?
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Do you need to wake the phone to use the fingerprint sensor? Or is it like most phones that can be woken up and unlocked with a fingerprint scan?
RoOSTA
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You have to press to the home/fingerprint sensor to wake and unlock the phone at the same time.
How is the display of the mi note 2? Many reviewers are quite disappointed by the display. I wonder how sharp it is because of 5.7" amoled screen. Pentile matrix and 1080p resolution with that screen size could be a concern for me.
I just can't decide between MI note 2 and oneplus 3t...oneplus is much much cheaper than MI note 2 in 128 GB configuration and I guess it will be available much faster than mi note 2. But I want the edge screen so badly.
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How is the display of the mi note 2? Many reviewers are quite disappointed by the display. I wonder how sharp it is because of 5.7" amoled screen. Pentile matrix and 1080p resolution with that screen size could be a concern for me.
I just can't decide between MI note 2 and oneplus 3t...oneplus is much much cheaper than MI note 2 in 128 GB configuration and I guess it will be available much faster than mi note 2. But I want the edge screen so badly.
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Frankly I would say that display is better then any other IPS screen in terms of color reproduction. Brightness is fine but Xiaomi 5s is brighter at max. It is not an issue for me because I keep brightness at 80%, in bright condition. Here's a bad thing I think, the screen changes to bluish tint if you look at it at angle but most noticeable if display is white. When it comes to sharpness it's fine to me but I think many people will say it's not sharp enough because they just happen to know that there are 2k displays on the other phones. They would never guessed what resolution particular displays has by just looking at it. OnePlus 3t it might be better in some aspects but personally it's looking boring to me and I would never consider one for myself. Besides I hate when camera frame is taller/higher than surface as it's case with OnePlus. The other thing you have to put in consideration is MIUI and for now there is no global firmware but I flashed Xiaomi.eu ROM and it's flawless. There are other phones in the same category like Leeco le pro 3 or vivo xplay6. Best regards
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The other thing you have to put in consideration is MIUI and for now there is no global firmware but I flashed Xiaomi.eu ROM and it's flawless.
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Ihave not read this wrong, as of November, there has been a 128GB/6GB combination of the 5.7" Xiaomi Mi Note 2 with a Global ROM? Or the CN one with litterally 4 or 5 unlocked bands?
So this phone must be woken up for the finger print to work. It doesn't try reading a fingerprint tap on the button and ,must be woken up to work?
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roosta said:
Ihave not read this wrong, as of November, there has been a 128GB/6GB combination of the 5.7" Xiaomi Mi Note 2 with a Global ROM? Or the CN one with litterally 4 or 5 unlocked bands?
So this phone must be woken up for the finger print to work. It doesn't try reading a fingerprint tap on the button and ,must be woken up to work?
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That is correct, but still it's done by one touch, while yu pressing the button the fingerprint scanner is unlocking the locked screen at same time.
Mi note 2 global version is about to be realest but all my Xiaomi mi phones are compatible in my country ( Denmark) so I am not bothered.
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How is the display of the mi note 2? Many reviewers are quite disappointed by the display. I wonder how sharp it is because of 5.7" amoled screen. Pentile matrix and 1080p resolution with that screen size could be a concern for me.
I just can't decide between MI note 2 and oneplus 3t...oneplus is much much cheaper than MI note 2 in 128 GB configuration and I guess it will be available much faster than mi note 2. But I want the edge screen so badly.
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I think the word disappoint for display of mi note 2 is under expectation. Everyone who plan to buy this phone would expect to see gorgeous IPS curve display. But after you get the phone hand on and the color on the edge doesn't seem as expectation so it would be abit disappoint.
As a mi note2 user I would say first impression was abit disappointed for display. The color on curve edge seem abit blue (only on white background) and abit warm tone display (compared to 1+2 i had used before mi note2).
But after using this phone for few days you will get use to color of display. Now i didn't feel any color change on the curve edges (after get used to) but the curve edge of screen still make you feel good on hand. Normally we look directly to screen not to the curve so right now color on the curve doesn't make me feel bad otherwise curve is still curve every time you hold your phone you always feel good on hand.
Thanks for the feedback. I personally don't care about other phones 2k displays (VR is not of relevance for me at all). I'm running the redmi note 3 pro international at the moment and the display is just fantastic. I just don't want a downgrade in display quality for my next phone which will cost about 4x more than the redmi note 3. In general the note 3 pro is already the perfect phone for its price tag (except for camera quality) but I always happened to be one of the enthusiast guys and I'm very curious about the curved screen.
An other thing that bothers me is the battery life. Reviewers speak about 4-5hrs on screen time. On the note 3 you can easily get between at least 7 hrs up to 10 hrs for some ppl. The difference in screen size is just 0.2 inches and the capacity is the same.
So what is the battery life for you guys?
The camera seems to be decent but it seems that pixel and s7/edge still play in their own league tho...
BTW: is anyone using the edge functions on the mi note 2?
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vavida said:
Thanks for the feedback. I personally don't care about other phones 2k displays (VR is not of relevance for me at all). I'm running the redmi note 3 pro international at the moment and the display is just fantastic. I just don't want a downgrade in display quality for my next phone which will cost about 4x more than the redmi note 3. In general the note 3 pro is already the perfect phone for its price tag (except for camera quality) but I always happened to be one of the enthusiast guys and I'm very curious about the curved screen.
An other thing that bothers me is the battery life. Reviewers speak about 4-5hrs on screen time. On the note 3 you can easily get between at least 7 hrs up to 10 hrs for some ppl. The difference in screen size is just 0.2 inches and the capacity is the same.
So what is the battery life for you guys?
The camera seems to be decent but it seems that pixel and s7/edge still play in their own league tho...
BTW: is anyone using the edge functions on the mi note 2?
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Egde functions are only available with a theme called "minote2" and only in lockscreen.
Get it here http://en.miui.com/thread-393072-1-1.html
vavida said:
Thanks for the feedback. I personally don't care about other phones 2k displays (VR is not of relevance for me at all). I'm running the redmi note 3 pro international at the moment and the display is just fantastic. I just don't want a downgrade in display quality for my next phone which will cost about 4x more than the redmi note 3. In general the note 3 pro is already the perfect phone for its price tag (except for camera quality) but I always happened to be one of the enthusiast guys and I'm very curious about the curved screen.
An other thing that bothers me is the battery life. Reviewers speak about 4-5hrs on screen time. On the note 3 you can easily get between at least 7 hrs up to 10 hrs for some ppl. The difference in screen size is just 0.2 inches and the capacity is the same.
So what is the battery life for you guys?
The camera seems to be decent but it seems that pixel and s7/edge still play in their own league tho...
BTW: is anyone using the edge functions on the mi note 2?
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Battery life in my opinion is the best i ever used. It take me pass daily usage with 30%+,- before go to bed.
Yesterday i put phone on airplane mode during 9.30 hours flight. Mi note 2 is handle idle so well.
Note 2 flaishing xiaomi.eu rom
zmajdk said:
Frankly I would say that display is better then any other IPS screen in terms of color reproduction. Brightness is fine but Xiaomi 5s is brighter at max. It is not an issue for me because I keep brightness at 80%, in bright condition. Here's a bad thing I think, the screen changes to bluish tint if you look at it at angle but most noticeable if display is white. When it comes to sharpness it's fine to me but I think many people will say it's not sharp enough because they just happen to know that there are 2k displays on the other phones. They would never guessed what resolution particular displays has by just looking at it. OnePlus 3t it might be better in some aspects but personally it's looking boring to me and I would never consider one for myself. Besides I hate when camera frame is taller/higher than surface as it's case with OnePlus. The other thing you have to put in consideration is MIUI and for now there is no global firmware but I flashed Xiaomi.eu ROM and it's flawless. There are other phones in the same category like Leeco le pro 3 or vivo xplay6. Best regards
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I am a bit new to this. I have new note 2 with unlocked boot loader and would like to flash .eu rom. Do I need to unlock boot loader? If not too much trouble, can you provide directions on what you did to install the .eu rom?
TGUY25 said:
I am a bit new to this. I have new note 2 with unlocked boot loader and would like to flash .eu rom. Do I need to unlock boot loader? If not too much trouble, can you provide directions on what you did to install the .eu rom?
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1. Yes, bootloader must be unlocked and TWRP for Mi note 2 must be flashed at first.
2. There is a guide on xiaomi.eu site how to do it : https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/6-12-29.37056/
I own a oneplus 3 which is rooted with Magisk and has RR nougat rom with bluspark kernel and AKT profiles. I have installed Arnova's gcam mod which improved its camera quality by miles. I also have Viper4android and Dolby atmos installed which makes listening to songs through headphones feel like heaven.
My only gripe is bad battery life because of its age. I still manage almost 5hrs SOT from 90% charge(I used to get 7hrs+ SOT when it was new) because of almost no standby drain .I am also worried if the snapdragon inside might show its age in the coming years.
So should I buy the poco f1 or just buy a new battery and run my oneplus 3 for a couple of years ? Does the poco take better photos than a oneplus 3 ? From the camera samples I have seen its on par with oneplus 3 stock cam in daylight and much worse than that in lowlight . I might be biased so I need some opinions from people who own both these phones. Also does viper4android work on Mi roms running on Oreo ?
Not worth,got allots of bug.
breaklaw93 said:
Not worth,got allots of bug.
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What about on the hardware front ? How is the display , the camera and the build quality like ?
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What about on the hardware front ? How is the display , the camera and the build quality like ?
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It'll be worth when development will start. For now it's buggy. But not worthless. Everything runs smooth and it feels snappy, camera is excellent in day light but in low light it losses some details. overall it's buggy for now but I'm sure when development starts it'll be worth upgrading from op3. And lcd display used is excellent in it's department and it shows crisp and vibrant colours but when comparing to Amoled it losses some points.
Hi, i wanted to do the same. But after reading all the problems with Poco f1 ( bugs,touch problems,lcd,earphones) i will just stick with my OP3. My OP3 is still great,except battery life. But i can achieve between 4:30 to 5hrs of SOT,so its not that bad after all. The other thing is that i dont know,if i could live without OxygenOS,lol. Its so snappy and close to stock android,i just love it. I will probably upgrade when OP7 will come out (SD855). For now,im happy with my OP3 and we are also getting Android Pie!
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Those are not what this phone is being bought for.
If performance and battery life is the last thing on your list, then you should look elsewhere.
UI is still being polished and has bugs. Can't comment on the OP3 camera hardware but I like poco camera. Display is not amoled. But 2016 SD 820 vs 2018 SD 845?
So the china launch of the Mi 9 is today. Anyone buying it? I most likely will if it's around £450 for 8gb /128gb variant. I want me some Snapdragon 855 goodness.
No 4k60fps and 3300 battery? I will pass for the next phone when maybe they choose to upgrade the baseband to global 4g+
My next phone will be OnePlus or Pixel
Full specs
6.39” FHD+ AMOLED Display
Triple Camera
-48MP primary f/1.75
-12MP telephoto f/2.2
-16MP ultra-wide f/2.2
Front 20MP f/2.0 @Qualcomm Snapdragon 855
6GB RAM
64GB/128GB Storage
In-screen fingerprint sensor
3300mAh Battery
20W wireless charging
I'm so disappointed by the battery size. 3300mah is less than the Mi 8's battery.
Battery is not that important for me. The disappointing thing for me is lack of OIS. No matter how good the sensor is, OIS is a must have in my opinion. Sensor itself is small enough to have lots of struggle capturing enough light in poor light conditions, removing the OIS will only make the situation worse. I hope that they change their plans for Mi Mix 4 camera or whatever gonna be their next flagship.
The lack of OIS will be felt while capturing photos in low light. Its a big drawback for me
No OIS, no IP rating, no stereo speakers, smaller battery...no thanks!
No way. Waterdrop in 2019? No thanks. Small battery? No thanks. Worse camera in my opinion, nothing special in this phone.
Next phone will be One Plus, Im tired of Xiaomi.
galakty said:
No way. Waterdrop in 2019? No thanks. Small battery? No thanks. Worse camera in my opinion, nothing special in this phone.
Next phone will be One Plus, Im tired of Xiaomi.
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I just read the review, it scored good 107 points in DxO mark test, while battery seems to last longer thanks to SD855...
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I just read the review, it scored good 107 points in DxO mark test, while battery seems to last longer thanks to SD855...
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DxO is not the best place to check camera Anyway, even in their test autofocus is worse than Mi 8.
Look at GSMarena comparison tool - its worse than Mi 8. Why? Because it sets high iso and fast shutter comparing to Mi 8. Mi8 shoots in low light with for example 1/15 and ISO 900, but Mi 9 shoots 1/50 and ISO 4200. Its terrible!
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DxO is not the best place to check camera Anyway, even in their test autofocus is worse than Mi 8.
Look at GSMarena comparison tool - its worse than Mi 8. Why? Because it sets high iso and fast shutter comparing to Mi 8. Mi8 shoots in low light with for example 1/15 and ISO 900, but Mi 9 shoots 1/50 and ISO 4200. Its terrible!
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"DxO is not the best place?" Then where need check camera?
GSMarena? In my opinion the worst place to check the camera..
Hello.
In gsmarena picture compare tool, view 20 is much better with the same sensor, so it must be software.
Especially in lower light, mi9 is weaker than mi8 and also redmi note 7... Dxo mark score is not logical, maybe there are phones with diferrent software... Despite the score, it does not seem like a great camera, just average, a little bit weaker than mi8. But it has a wide sensor and better hw so, price wise....good enough phone and camera.
Mi 9 gives you sooo much for 500$, but you are looking for some meaningless details in pictures that no one will mention when you post it in FB, Instagaram, Twitter....etc. For sure ~2000$ phone makes much worst pictures for a bucket of money it costs
There is no such offer for hi-end hardware on the market and I`ll take advantage of it when Global version is out.
It has A LOT of things going for it:
https://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_9_specs_and_features_officially_revealed-news-35564.php
https://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_announces_more_mi_9_features-news-35578.php
But I feel my Mi 8 still has more than enough life left on it to swap it.
The only reason I'd do it is to sell it at a great price and just add some more to get the Mi 9.
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But I feel my Mi 8 still has more than enough life left on it to swap it.
The only reason I'd do it is to sell it at a great price and just add some more to get the Mi 9.
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Same unless I can get it with those ebay discount codes cheaper. I'll probably go for the S10e.
What was the deal breaker is probably no OIS and low light photos suck.
My next phone will be pixel
After all the crap of waiting 360+ hours to even be able to unlock the bootloader I wont be going Xiaomi again, especially with them now building in Adverts into the base operating system the one thing you want is unlock and a different rom
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After all the crap of waiting 360+ hours to even be able to unlock the bootloader I wont be going Xiaomi again, especially with them now building in Adverts into the base operating system the one thing you want is unlock and a different rom
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I think they pledged to make it simpler, imagine with that the Mi 9 Xiaomi has already provided the source code lol.
Don't!
I've swapped my mi8 for mi9tpro two weeks ago, and man did I made a mistake:
- mi8 is much comfortable to hold in hand
- mi8 has unmistakable and fast as hell fingerprint reader (fpr), mi9tp has hit/miss and slow fpr.
- face unlock is unusable and slow on mi9tp, on mi 8 works i every light scenario and it is instant.
- battery life is similar on both devices (5-6H SOT)
- gcam works perfectly on mi8, on mi9tp it uses too high iso values and it crashes a lot
- speed is similar on both phones, but eu rom on mi8 is perfect and was much speedier for me then mi9tp
- only thing that i like on mi9tpro is video with ultrawide camera, but man, it is not worth the money.
Anyway sold mi9tpro, a buyer should pick it up this afternoon. Bought mint condition 128GB mi8, and saved 200E
Thanks for your opinions, surely it'll give an idea to users.
I was thinking of doing the same.Selling mi8 and buying mi9t pro or OnePlus 7.I m closer to OnePlus now.Thanks.
Can i ask how much have you bought mi8 128? (Used i believe).
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200€ used, mint condition, in Croatia.
My friend has op7p, it is too big and heavy for me, and curved screen is inconvenience.
CROrION said:
Don't!
I've swapped my mi8 for mi9tpro two weeks ago, and man did I made a mistake:
- mi8 is much comfortable to hold in hand
- mi8 has unmistakable and fast as hell fingerprint reader (fpr), mi9tp has hit/miss and slow fpr.
- face unlock is unusable and slow on mi9tp, on mi 8 works i every light scenario and it is instant.
- battery life is similar on both devices (5-6H SOT)
- gcam works perfectly on mi8, on mi9tp it uses too high iso values and it crashes a lot
- speed is similar on both phones, but eu rom on mi8 is perfect and was much speedier for me then mi9tp
- only thing that i like on mi9tpro is video with ultrawide camera, but man, it is not worth the money.
Anyway sold mi9tpro, a buyer should pick it up this afternoon. Bought mint condition 128GB mi8, and saved 200E
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Wow, thanks for your input. I was about to sell mine for the same price here in BiH, but I was concerned about the size and handling...and I was counting on much better battery.
Maybe non pro model is better choise in therms of battery life...
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Don't!
I've swapped my mi8 for mi9tpro two weeks ago, and man did I made a mistake:
- mi8 is much comfortable to hold in hand
- mi8 has unmistakable and fast as hell fingerprint reader (fpr), mi9tp has hit/miss and slow fpr.
- face unlock is unusable and slow on mi9tp, on mi 8 works i every light scenario and it is instant.
- battery life is similar on both devices (5-6H SOT)
- gcam works perfectly on mi8, on mi9tp it uses too high iso values and it crashes a lot
- speed is similar on both phones, but eu rom on mi8 is perfect and was much speedier for me then mi9tp
- only thing that i like on mi9tpro is video with ultrawide camera, but man, it is not worth the money.
Anyway sold mi9tpro, a buyer should pick it up this afternoon. Bought mint condition 128GB mi8, and saved 200E
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can completely agree your opinion, i had the same with a MI8 and the MI9, MI8 was a superior phone and as i switched to the mi9 there was a lot i was complaining about, ... especially the missing OIS in camera.
Mi8 with google cam is unbeatable so i can feel with you !
Good, to know that. Now i was think about , that i sell my MI8 256gb and i buy the MI9T PRO 128gb.So, i stay by MI8. Thx
If anyone needs a cheaper phone, or maybe wanting to a buy a phone to give as a gift.
I bought my 15 yr old daughter a Xiaomi A3 and I must say that I am really impressed with its speed, excellent camera, and overall beauty. Plus it comes with Android One, and she loves it. no doubt that it is perfect for a teenager, parent, wife or girlfriend and with its 665 processor its faster than I expected.
Finally the screen resolution may only be 720P. However the Amoled panels makes the lower PPI, hardly noticeable, and the colors are much better when comparing the A3 panel to 1080 LCD panels.
Remember 1 thing mi 9T pro its still new device that need some time to be stable of any rom also how they got same sot? Mi 9 t pro got 4k mah and snap 855 its kinda got reduced consumption of battery so maybe you dint try it much? I can agree about OIS at camera point.
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can completely agree your opinion, i had the same with a MI8 and the MI9, MI8 was a superior phone and as i switched to the mi9 there was a lot i was complaining about, ... especially the missing OIS in camera.
Mi8 with google cam is unbeatable so i can feel with you !
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Do you mean the camera on Mi8 is superior to Mi9?
I thought the closed loop motor without OIS is better than open loop motor with OIS
https://www.gizchina.com/2019/02/17/mi-9-closed-loop-motor-explained/
According to DxOMark," .....the Mi 9 is the best Xiaomi device we have tested so far".
https://www.dxomark.com/xiaomi-mi-9-camera-review/
hkwildboy said:
Do you mean the camera on Mi8 is superior to Mi9?
I thought the closed loop motor without OIS is better than open loop motor with OIS
https://www.gizchina.com/2019/02/17/mi-9-closed-loop-motor-explained/
According to DxOMark," .....the Mi 9 is the best Xiaomi device we have tested so far".
https://www.dxomark.com/xiaomi-mi-9-camera-review/
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Its a subject matter, but my opinion is the MI8 camera WITH OIS and google Cam is better than Mi9 camera without OIS.
I have a Mi8 (now my girlfriends phone) and had a Mi9 and have done a big comparison between both phones. My conclusion was to sell the Mi9 because the Mi8 does greater Images than the Mi9.
I think we both know how much value we should give to DxOMark ...
Its just a subject feeling for me and my opinion because of my personal comparison.
I've to say i got the Mi9 in the early days and i think xiaomi did a big improvement in topic software on this phone and also a camera improvement but just for me:
When comparing my Huawei P30 Pro images with my girlfriends Mi8 Images, i'm again and again blown away by the colors (gcam) and HDR+ on this phone.
My biggest disadvantage is the lack of a ultra wide angle lens in the Mi8, if it had this, i would sell my p30 pro and buy a Mi8 again
Gcam Apk
Flash-User said:
Its a subject matter, but my opinion is the MI8 camera WITH OIS and google Cam is better than Mi9 camera without OIS.
I have a Mi8 (now my girlfriends phone) and had a Mi9 and have done a big comparison between both phones. My conclusion was to sell the Mi9 because the Mi8 does greater Images than the Mi9.
I think we both know how much value we should give to DxOMark ...
Its just a subject feeling for me and my opinion because of my personal comparison.
I've to say i got the Mi9 in the early days and i think xiaomi did a big improvement in topic software on this phone and also a camera improvement but just for me:
When comparing my Huawei P30 Pro images with my girlfriends Mi8 Images, i'm again and again blown away by the colors (gcam) and HDR+ on this phone.
My biggest disadvantage is the lack of a ultra wide angle lens in the Mi8, if it had this, i would sell my p30 pro and buy a Mi8 again
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Can you specify which version/modder of Gcam you use on Mi8?
Thank you.
Flash-User said:
Its a subject matter, but my opinion is the MI8 camera WITH OIS and google Cam is better than Mi9 camera without OIS.
I have a Mi8 (now my girlfriends phone) and had a Mi9 and have done a big comparison between both phones. My conclusion was to sell the Mi9 because the Mi8 does greater Images than the Mi9.
I think we both know how much value we should give to DxOMark ...
Its just a subject feeling for me and my opinion because of my personal comparison.
I've to say i got the Mi9 in the early days and i think xiaomi did a big improvement in topic software on this phone and also a camera improvement but just for me:
When comparing my Huawei P30 Pro images with my girlfriends Mi8 Images, i'm again and again blown away by the colors (gcam) and HDR+ on this phone.
My biggest disadvantage is the lack of a ultra wide angle lens in the Mi8, if it had this, i would sell my p30 pro and buy a Mi8 again
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Thanks so much for your comments.
I too have been using Mi8 for over a year, and am wondering if should upgrade to Mi9 or 9T Pro.
Now you pointed out there isn't much improvement, I think I'll hold on to it until the next model comes up.
Cheers.
hkwildboy said:
Thanks so much for your comments.
I too have been using Mi8 for over a year, and am wondering if should upgrade to Mi9 or 9T Pro.
Now you pointed out there isn't much improvement, I think I'll hold on to it until the next model comes up.
Cheers.
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Yes, as i said, i had both phones and just for me the camera of the Mi8 was better. Even the fingerprintscanner on the Mi8 is insane instead of the Mi9's indisplay fingerprint reader.
By the way, my Mi9 unit had a big battery drain issue, this was the main reason beside the camera for sending them back. In fly mode everything was fine, but when enabling data the battery drains extremely fast i couldn't fix this issue.
As a Huawei P30 Pro owner i can say: if you've a Mi8 with google cam and do not need necessarily an ultra wide angle lens, play around with some gcam ports, find the right one and settings for you and you're lucky.
The phone does exiting images even compared with all Flagship smartphones on the market right NOW.
what about Mi9 Pro 5G version ?
Flash-User said:
Yes, as i said, i had both phones and just for me the camera of the Mi8 was better. Even the fingerprintscanner on the Mi8 is insane instead of the Mi9's indisplay fingerprint reader.
By the way, my Mi9 unit had a big battery drain issue, this was the main reason beside the camera for sending them back. In fly mode everything was fine, but when enabling data the battery drains extremely fast i couldn't fix this issue.
As a Huawei P30 Pro owner i can say: if you've a Mi8 with google cam and do not need necessarily an ultra wide angle lens, play around with some gcam ports, find the right one and settings for you and you're lucky.
The phone does exiting images even compared with all Flagship smartphones on the market right NOW.
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Hi,
what gcam port do you use ? can you recommend on settings ?
cheehong93 said:
what about Mi9 Pro 5G version ?
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I also want to know this! Because well, it's expected for the facial unlock to work worse than in the Mi8 because the Mi8 has a 3d face sensor and infrared light and all those dedicated hardware.. that's why the notch is so wide.
So i have Mi 10 for like 2 months and so far i am so disappointed from it. Mainly from camera which is not as good as i expected (in my opinion Mi 9 which i had before had much better camera and overall results from all 3 sensors) miui 12 is terrible and only good thing i can see on my Mi 10 is battery, 90Hz amoled display and maybe sound. I drop Mi 9 beacuse of super good offer on Mi 10 and i thougth it will be great but its not. Couple days ago i bought for my girlfriend POCO X3 and when i see what that phone can do for fraction of price of my Mi 10. I mean display is not amoled but panel is look so good and 120Hz si awesone, battery life is exellent and camera in my opinion is almost the same as Mi 10 wich for the price of POCO X3 its just hilarious. So i am thinking last couple days to drop Mi 10 and get POCO X3 because its just much better value.. I am crazy?!
No, you not crazy. Im also very disappointed from Mi10.
krepsz said:
No, you not crazy. Im also very disappointed from Mi10.
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Well, i am happy to not be alone.
Olmaik said:
Well, i am happy to not be alone.
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How i wrote a down on Foto section, the camera setup is trash.The 108mp main camera cant take normal fotos, cos its washing out the background, from 5 meters too. And its ****, if i want, that everything is sharp on the foto. 13mp wide is also bad. 2mp macro ist a joke. Sreen is ok, processor is ok. Im want back my Mi8. It was a super phone. Good Fotos, good size. Fast enough.
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How i wrote a down on Foto section, the camera setup is trash.The 108mp main camera cant take normal fotos, cos its washing out the background, from 5 meters too. And its ****, if i want, that everything is sharp on the foto. 13mp wide is also bad. 2mp macro ist a joke. Sreen is ok, processor is ok. Im want back my Mi8. It was a super phone. Good Fotos, good size. Fast enough.
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Yes exactly!!! Camera is the most disappointment. Sometimes it nail the photo but 80% of time photo looks bad.
Here is good example. I had Mi 9 before Mi 10, photos are super sharp thanks to laser AF and good sensor. Mi 10 just focus on middle a rest of image is just bad.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/11aFfzYzMcBx2JxDHWeTvAxGavrHWR-bc?usp=sharing
Olmaik said:
Yes exactly!!! Camera is the most disappointment. Sometimes it nail the photo but 80% of time photo looks bad.
Here is good example. I had Mi 9 before Mi 10, photos are super sharp thanks to laser AF and good sensor. Mi 10 just focus on middle a rest of image is just bad.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/11aFfzYzMcBx2JxDHWeTvAxGavrHWR-bc?usp=sharing
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The Problem is the big hype around bokeh. Now this is the trend. And when the Mi10 have a normal main camera and extra the portrait for bokeh , than i dont care about wide, cos with Gcam i can make from 9 foto very good wide. My opinion is, that 2 good camrea is enough. But now phone manufacturer racing, that who can put more camera tje backside of the phone. I hope, that trend will changes amd coming normalisation in this theme.
krepsz said:
The Problem is the big hype around bokeh. Now this is the trend. And when the Mi10 have a normal main camera and extra the portrait for bokeh , than i dont care about wide, cos with Gcam i can make from 9 foto very good wide. My opinion is, that 2 good camrea is enough. But now phone manufacturer racing, that who can put more camera tje backside of the phone. I hope, that trend will changes amd coming normalisation in this theme.
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Can u share what gcam u using and possible xml file? i tried so many of them and i cant find right one.
Olmaik said:
Can u share what gcam u using and possible xml file? i tried so many of them and i cant find right one.
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I dont using xml. config, just the pure Parrot43 v5.
Incat said:
I could probably list a dozen things that I think the mi10 does better then the x3, but at the end of the day it's you that has to use the phone, so if you prefer the latter then what does it matter what anyone else thinks or says.?
If you think Miui 12 is terrible though, what are you going to use on the x3.?
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Well good point i guess. I am just pissed off about those cameras...
The camera works quite well when using Gcam 7.3.018 Urnyx05
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i only now want android 11. it takes a long time
You guys are on crack if you think Mi 10 is not good. Like photography part of phone I never comment because I would pay serious money for phone with no cam, or some whatever cam, just give me performance and battery. And this phone does those 2 better than most phones. I don't understand how can you put Poco X3 in same category with Mi 10. Yeah 120 Hz make it feel like Mi 10 but under the hood Mi 10 is beast on it's own and this OLED screen is too notch even tho is 1080p, I compared it head to head with OnePlus 8 Pro and minor differences could be seen.
The camera is excellent, stop saying nonsense and don't be so ignorant
nikola92 said:
You guys are on crack if you think Mi 10 is not good. Like photography part of phone I never comment because I would pay serious money for phone with no cam, or some whatever cam, just give me performance and battery. And this phone does those 2 better than most phones. I don't understand how can you put Poco X3 in same category with Mi 10. Yeah 120 Hz make it feel like Mi 10 but under the hood Mi 10 is beast on it's own and this OLED screen is too notch even tho is 1080p, I compared it head to head with OnePlus 8 Pro and minor differences could be seen.
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The phone hardware is amazing, what sucks is MIUI! It feels like someone made a custom rom full of bugs and lags, it doesn't feel like a stock rom at all. I had oneplus previously and their OOS is way way better!
albannotosska said:
The phone hardware is amazing, what sucks is MIUI! It feels like someone made a custom rom full of bugs and lags, it doesn't feel like a stock rom at all. I had oneplus previously and their OOS is way way better!
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MIUI is custom ROM, I am kinda ancient when it comes to XDA and I remember how MIUI started and we all old heads were hyped to see company take over community work and put it into their phones out of box. Now OnePlus latest updates made their phones lookalike Samsung UI, so what you had on your OnePlus is history. And on almost any phone if you like stock android experience so you can tweak and tinker it AOSP ROM was the way or som custom ROM. So the charm of Android phones is all you need to like is hardware and you make your own looks and feels out of vast majority of ROM. I know some phone lack of even Root support or Bootloader is locked forever. But I kinda cringe when I see people on XDA complaining about looks of Phone and it's software when they can tweak it and being on XDA implies you want to tinker. Just have common sense people, don't be lazy and complain.
cobraxxx123 said:
The camera is excellent, stop saying nonsense and don't be so ignorant
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No this camera is far from excelent, really far.
nikola92 said:
MIUI is custom ROM, I am kinda ancient when it comes to XDA and I remember how MIUI started and we all old heads were hyped to see company take over community work and put it into their phones out of box. Now OnePlus latest updates made their phones lookalike Samsung UI, so what you had on your OnePlus is history. And on almost any phone if you like stock android experience so you can tweak and tinker it AOSP ROM was the way or som custom ROM. So the charm of Android phones is all you need to like is hardware and you make your own looks and feels out of vast majority of ROM. I know some phone lack of even Root support or Bootloader is locked forever. But I kinda cringe when I see people on XDA complaining about looks of Phone and it's software when they can tweak it and being on XDA implies you want to tinker. Just have common sense people, don't be lazy and complain.
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Not my point at all! I said MIUI doesn't feel like the original rom the phone came with, which means: it has alot of problems, alot of lags, animation stuttering and so on! The hardware might be good but the software totally kills the experience for me. As for tryingcustom roms, I am currently on a custom rom, but those still have some issues. Also when I buy a phone I expect it to work all good out of the box: hardware and software. And for xiaomi this is the first premium flagship I have tried that the hardware feels like a flagship but the phone feels like my old redmi note 5(last non flagship device I had)
Olmaik said:
Yes exactly!!! Camera is the most disappointment. Sometimes it nail the photo but 80% of time photo looks bad.
Here is good example. I had Mi 9 before Mi 10, photos are super sharp thanks to laser AF and good sensor. Mi 10 just focus on middle a rest of image is just bad.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/11aFfzYzMcBx2JxDHWeTvAxGavrHWR-bc?usp=sharing
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i'm with the others who think the mi10 camera is pretty good. what you said about "focus on middle and rest of image is just bad", well that's bokeh. REAL OPTICAL BOKEH, not processed/faked ones: something that's not possible with smaller sensors on phones typically, and approaching what you can get with much larger dedicated cameras. It's not a fault, but an achievement, IMHO.
What might have also impressed you the wrong way is probably the characteristic cold tones of the Samsung sensors compared to the much warmer (lab tested pleasing) tones of the Sony sensors. Though Samsung sensors would typically appear sharper overall even with comparable resolution, never mind between mi9 and 10. Sharpness and resolution should be hands down in mi 10's favor. Getting GCam should help a lot with dynamic range issues in difficult lighting (you seem to have unfavorable/difficult lightings for both of the Mi10 samples compared to the mi9, which were both shot with much better lighting conditions).
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i'm with the others who think the mi10 camera is pretty good. what you said about "focus on middle and rest of image is just bad", well that's bokeh. REAL OPTICAL BOKEH, not processed/faked ones: something that's not possible with smaller sensors on phones typically, and approaching what you can get with much larger dedicated cameras. It's not a fault, but an achievement, IMHO.
What might have also impressed you the wrong way is probably the characteristic cold tones of the Samsung sensors compared to the much warmer (lab tested pleasing) tones of the Sony sensors. Though Samsung sensors would typically appear sharper overall even with comparable resolution, never mind between mi9 and 10. Sharpness and resolution should be hands down in mi 10's favor. Getting GCam should help a lot with dynamic range issues in difficult lighting (you seem to have unfavorable/difficult lightings for both of the Mi10 samples compared to the mi9, which were both shot with much better lighting conditions).
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Trust me, its not real bokeh. I have couple cameras at home and real optical bokeh looks really different then what Mi 10 does to images.
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Trust me, its not real bokeh. I have couple cameras at home and real optical bokeh looks really different then what Mi 10 does to images.
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This!!!! IT is no way near a real bokeh, it is the worst bokeh I have ever seen!
seities said:
i'm with the others who think the mi10 camera is pretty good. what you said about "focus on middle and rest of image is just bad", well that's bokeh. REAL OPTICAL BOKEH, not processed/faked ones: something that's not possible with smaller sensors on phones typically, and approaching what you can get with much larger dedicated cameras. It's not a fault, but an achievement, IMHO.
What might have also impressed you the wrong way is probably the characteristic cold tones of the Samsung sensors compared to the much warmer (lab tested pleasing) tones of the Sony sensors. Though Samsung sensors would typically appear sharper overall even with comparable resolution, never mind between mi9 and 10. Sharpness and resolution should be hands down in mi 10's favor. Getting GCam should help a lot with dynamic range issues in difficult lighting (you seem to have unfavorable/difficult lightings for both of the Mi10 samples compared to the mi9, which were both shot with much better lighting conditions).
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Cameras suck man, suck big time. My old pixel 2 has a way wayy better camera(which is a 3year old device). And even though I use gcam, sometimes that is not stable, and whats the point of a 700$ phone if alot of stuff is not stable and keeps lagging?
seities said:
i'm with the others who think the mi10 camera is pretty good. what you said about "focus on middle and rest of image is just bad", well that's bokeh. REAL OPTICAL BOKEH, not processed/faked ones: something that's not possible with smaller sensors on phones typically, and approaching what you can get with much larger dedicated cameras. It's not a fault, but an achievement, IMHO.
What might have also impressed you the wrong way is probably the characteristic cold tones of the Samsung sensors compared to the much warmer (lab tested pleasing) tones of the Sony sensors. Though Samsung sensors would typically appear sharper overall even with comparable resolution, never mind between mi9 and 10. Sharpness and resolution should be hands down in mi 10's favor. Getting GCam should help a lot with dynamic range issues in difficult lighting (you seem to have unfavorable/difficult lightings for both of the Mi10 samples compared to the mi9, which were both shot with much better lighting conditions).
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Well for that real optical bokeh.. Here is link for two shots. Same conditions, no filtr, just point focus and shoot. iPhone XS vs Mi 10.
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=122xjPkdP4Y54M4Cg5ziLhHkTYP5_8nv4
iPhone did much better job with bokeh then Mi 10 did.