I've been pretty happy with my Mate 10 but feel it's time for a change. Almost got the Mi 9T Pro but then specs for the Oneplus 7T emerged and that is now the favourite. Tried the Oneplus 7 Pro earlier but hated the curved screen. Mate 30 probably out due to the google apps nonsense.
Just wondered what fellow Mate 10 users have moved to and how it worked out. Or which device(s) you have your eye on?
Personally if it's confirmed that Mate 10 will be getting Android Q then it's a must keep for another year and maybe 1 more after that. Even without that It does all I need and more. Never been happier with a phone.
I'm a bit picky about the design of my phone, I hate curved screens, notch, teardrop, cut out designs. And Mate 10 doesn't fall into any of that. I don't like the current trends I just want compromise. But that's only personal preference.
Currently I'm holding off until the Mate 40 comes out next year, and when that time comes I'll start weighting things.
Good thing U have many brands to choose from but no need to rush unless u are having serious problems with your device, where I live the only choices are huawei and Samsung so I only upgrade when it's really crucial to do so, and that's not even close right now.
I hope this helped u. Peace.
My mate 10 pro will have an afterlife in the hands of my wife. :fingers-crossed:
But it won't be a Huawei anymore. Just because there is no development around these brand and that sucks.
For now I would prefer Oneplus devices. Also Xioami isn't too bad either.
Will see what the market has to offer next year.
I am fascinated by all the new devices that come out. But also I always come to the conclusion. that the Mate 10 (Pro) is still a very good smartphone that is very capable of keeping up with the new ones. Sure the wide angle and zoom lenses are great and also the SoC are better in Benchmarks, but at the end of the day my Mate 10 Pro can do all I need.
One reason why I decided to buy a flagship smartphone in 2017 was "I want a phone that can keep up for a while". I knew I didnt need the flagship SoC performance but I bought it so it would still be fast 2 years later. Now the time begins where I think I profit of paying extra in 2017. Thatswhy I'll keep it till it breaks, hopefully many years from now. I will soon order a new battery and replace it myself (while also changing my shattered back panel). Very happy with the device and Huaweis promise "wont slow down within at least 2 years" proved to be right.
I change device because i would reduce form factor, but with best camera
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Personally if it's confirmed that Mate 10 will be getting Android Q then it's a must keep for another year and maybe 1 more after that. Even without that It does all I need and more. Never been happier with a phone.
I'm a bit picky about the design of my phone, I hate curved screens, notch, teardrop, cut out designs. And Mate 10 doesn't fall into any of that. I don't like the current trends I just want compromise. But that's only personal preference.
Currently I'm holding off until the Mate 40 comes out next year, and when that time comes I'll start weighting things.
Good thing U have many brands to choose from but no need to rush unless u are having serious problems with your device, where I live the only choices are huawei and Samsung so I only upgrade when it's really crucial to do so, and that's not even close right now.
I hope this helped u. Peace.
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Personally, I love mine and I have no reason to upgrade. If I could pick any, I would still be pretty open minded as I don't do roms so bootloader locked isn't an issue for me. As long as it is pretty equal in features to price ratio and it has all the ones I need, gladly it can be my next.
It's amazing I've had my M10P for almost two years cos it's as new and fast as the day I bought it!
I gave my Mate9 to my wife then and she stopped using her Sammy for the M9. I wanted to get her a Y9prime but she wants the M10P so I guess it's the M30P for me.
I used to have LGs (G2, G3, V10 & G5) - the last two got affected by bootloop and being out of US, I wasn't entitled to a replacement. Those days, I flashed custom ROMs bi-weekly my favourite was Cloudy.
I didn't think I could survive with a locked bootloader but here I am 3 & 1/2 years after switching to Mate 9.
I will still stick to Mate series but I wish Huawei will create their own OS probably off Sailfish which means we can still install Google services.
If Huawei want to retain market share, they should unlock bootloader in devices as it'll not only keep us but also entice new users of their devices.
Talking about changing devices, I may go for the new P30 Pro.
But if I had to move away from Huawei all together, I'll consider the K20 Pro as an alternative - for me, it's better than OP7 Pro
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I think I may go for Asus ROG phone II or Xiaomi Black Shark 2 Pro
I'm going through the same dilemma. I usually change phones very fast. But its been 1.5 yrs with the Mate 10 Pro and there's nothing in the market that comes close to being a great replacement for this. My only problem now is that the updates haven't come in for 2 months now (US Version) and I don't think it'll get any more. I love the camera, speaker, bluetooth strength, Wifi speeds and just how smooth and fast it is even after 1.5 yrs.
But, if there has to be a replacement, then I might go for the Pixel 4 or jump over to the iPhone 11. Waiting for their announcements to see how good they are.
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I'm going through the same dilemma. I usually change phones very fast. But its been 1.5 yrs with the Mate 10 Pro and there's nothing in the market that comes close to being a great replacement for this. My only problem now is that the updates haven't come in for 2 months now (US Version) and I don't think it'll get any more. I love the camera, speaker, bluetooth strength, Wifi speeds and just how smooth and fast it is even after 1.5 yrs.
But, if there has to be a replacement, then I might go for the Pixel 4 or jump over to the iPhone 11. Waiting for their announcements to see how good they are.
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How do you feel now about the iPhone 11? The P4 is better according to leaks imo
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How do you feel now about the iPhone 11? The P4 is better according to leaks imo
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Still waiting to see what the Pixel brings to the table.
The iPhone 11 Pro has a wide angle camera which is the only thing missing in the Mate 10 Pro. Pics will be good for a flagship, and videos are the best as usual. iOS is not to my taste and the max I've held an iPhone is for 4-5 months (8 plus). Since nothing major has changed in iOS 13, I'm in a dilemma.
No more Huawei's for me, because just like any other manufacturer, updates stop coming after a point or are really slow. My Mate10 Pro hasn't received an update for 2 months now. Yeah, they've been much better than Samsung or LG, but that's nothing to boast about.
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OnePlus 7 seems like a good bargain nowadays.
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Still waiting to see what the Pixel brings to the table.
The iPhone 11 Pro has a wide angle camera which is the only thing missing in the Mate 10 Pro. Pics will be good for a flagship, and videos are the best as usual. iOS is not to my taste and the max I've held an iPhone is for 4-5 months (8 plus). Since nothing major has changed in iOS 13, I'm in a dilemma.
No more Huawei's for me, because just like any other manufacturer, updates stop coming after a point or are really slow. My Mate10 Pro hasn't received an update for 2 months now. Yeah, they've been much better than Samsung or LG, but that's nothing to boast about.
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I haven't been getting updates but I have 2 possible reasons,
A- not in the region I bought my phone.
B- been in repair for the past month.
Same for me I love the M10P but as my contract is renewing next month I thought about buying the M30P and just install the g services myself but I am not so sure about it. What would you all do buy the M30P or something else?
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Same for me I love the M10P but as my contract is renewing next month I thought about buying the M30P and just install the g services myself but I am not so sure about it. What would you all do buy the M30P or something else?
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I'd buy the M30P. If you were happy with Huawei than it's the best choice imo. I'd just wait for some real reviews to see if you really can get all Google services to work properly.
I won't buy mate 30 PRO, reason - notch. My next phone will have about 7 inches screen. I'm waiting for HONOR NOTE 20 but nobody can say something about release date. I wanted to buy HONOR NOTE 10, but there's a problem with B20 range and Jack 3,5mm.
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I won't buy mate 30 PRO, reason - notch. My next phone will have about 7 inches screen. I'm waiting for HONOR NOTE 20 but nobody can say something about release date. I wanted to buy HONOR NOTE 10, but there's a problem with B20 range and Jack 3,5mm.
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Why do U need a 7 inch screen?
If I was upgrading and sticking to huawei I'd rather get the Mate 30 (non pro). The only things I don't like are that it doesn't have QHD display and no support for standard SD card. And also I think it doesn't have dual speakers but I'm not sure. I'm holding off until the Mate 40 unless my Mate 10 become unusable.
The lack of Google apps doesn't bother me at all but for the average consumer it could be an issue.
I like to watch a films at my car during my journeys Larger screens are better for this.
I'm leaning towards the Oneplus 7T. It looks like the uk will only get 128gb but Wonda Mobile think they might have the 256gb version in November.
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Hey,
After an upgrade of my HTC U11+. A bit stuck to be honest on which one to go with as they all have big pluses and minuses. I think my ideal phone would be the mate 20 pro hardware with pixel software.
Will give my pro's and minuses below, please feel free to comment and advise as you see fit.
Mate 20 pro
++ Big battery
+ Not bad price wise (especially with the free watch)
+ cameras
+ nice colours
- Lack of updates??
Pixel 3 XL
++ best software
+ great camera
+ great update support
+ great speakers
-- average battery life
-expensive
Oneplus 6T (based on rumours
+price
+Smooth UI
+good support
- camera probably wont be as good as the other 2
-speakers wont be as good
+/- battery in the middle
Out of these three I'd definitely go with the Mate 20 Pro. the Pixel is boring and too ugly and no features at all (I wouldn't consider it at all unless I absolutely need their camera) , OP6 is just cheap price but is missing wireless charging, QHD display, IP68, stereo speakers, camera will be just average, AOD display, desktop mode, raise to wake, knuckle gestures, secure face unlock, etc. But if you don't care about those, the OP6 will be faster/smoother than Mate 20 pro and maybe their underdisplay implementation could be a little bit faster but we'll see
I'm going through the same motions so can't "convince" you, but here are some additional thoughts.
*Pixel QC is still sub par. Quite a few hardware inconsistencies popping up. You won't see this with Huawei
*Pixel 3 speakers and haptics are FAR better
*Huawei software is bad for reasons people don't extrapolate upon
Question marks behind software updates should be removed. This is definitely a negative mark against Huawei.
Lockscreen is abysmal. Unable to expand, reply, or interact with any notifications
Background app restrictions are seriously annoying. Google photos will randomly not backup like your using an iphone. Services like android messages for PC, Mightytext, or Pushbullet will randomly stop working, Dropbox background sync won't work consistently, etc.
Huawei still isn't a brand developers seem to pay attention to, so bugs (think odd aspect ratio bugs) will take longer to get fixed.
*6T should be immediately disregarded unless cost or ROM support are of concern. Imagine you know this already.
Huawei hardware is beautiful, but the software and updates is a serious downer. (not just because it's a skin - EMUI looks fine visually imo) Ultimately, I think the ugly 3XL is still the better device for most..
No bootloader unlock, no root, no mods, no roms vs oneplus and pixel unlimited development..
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No bootloader unlock, no root, no mods, no roms vs oneplus and pixel unlimited development..
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I'm really hopeful that we'll at least get root...... I've preordered the Mate 20 Pro and will be selling my Pixel 2 xl, hope I don't live to regret it! Worst case scenario I'll sell it and switch...
Well Pixel XL 3 is trash. I returned mine after 2 days.
Oneplus 6T is a bang for buck type of phone
Mate 20 Pro I'm having issues getting one imported
Probably didn't help much but aye.
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I'm going through the same motions so can't "convince" you, but here are some additional thoughts.
*Pixel QC is still sub par. Quite a few hardware inconsistencies popping up. You won't see this with Huawei
*Pixel 3 speakers and haptics are FAR better
*Huawei software is bad for reasons people don't extrapolate upon
Question marks behind software updates should be removed. This is definitely a negative mark against Huawei.
Lockscreen is abysmal. Unable to expand, reply, or interact with any notifications
Background app restrictions are seriously annoying. Google photos will randomly not backup like your using an iphone. Services like android messages for PC, Mightytext, or Pushbullet will randomly stop working, Dropbox background sync won't work consistently, etc.
Huawei still isn't a brand developers seem to pay attention to, so bugs (think odd aspect ratio bugs) will take longer to get fixed.
*6T should be immediately disregarded unless cost or ROM support are of concern. Imagine you know this already.
Huawei hardware is beautiful, but the software and updates is a serious downer. (not just because it's a skin - EMUI looks fine visually imo) Ultimately, I think the ugly 3XL is still the better device for most..
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Great post, and for these reasons Huawei don't deserve £899 for their phone as pretty as it is. when the honeymoon period wears off you'll be noticing that lack of software support. I'm still debating getting a M20P myself, it would be easier if Huawei stepped their game up with software support and allowed the users to bypass background closures.
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Great post, and for these reasons Huawei don't deserve £899 for their phone as pretty as it is. when the honeymoon period wears off you'll be noticing that lack of software support. I'm still debating getting a M20P myself, it would be easier if Huawei stepped their game up with software support and allowed the users to bypass background closures.
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I think you hit the nail on the head regarding honeymoon period. I had (2) P20 Pro's and I loved the hardware/camera, but quickly became annoyed with the fact that EMUI just doesn't "work" as an android phone should. After using MIUI 10 on a Mix 2s for a few weeks, I would say that Xiaomi's derivative feels more natural to use. /sad
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*Huawei software is bad for reasons people don't extrapolate upon
Lockscreen is abysmal. Unable to expand, reply, or interact with any notifications
Background app restrictions are seriously annoying. Google photos will randomly not backup like your using an iphone. Services like android messages for PC, Mightytext, or Pushbullet will randomly stop working, Dropbox background sync won't work consistently, etc.
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Do you know if these issues are still there in the Mate 20 Pro? That and Android Auto (connecting to a head unit) are very important to me. I don't believe that worked correctly on previous Huawei devices either.
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Do you know if these issues are still there in the Mate 20 Pro? That and Android Auto (connecting to a head unit) are very important to me. I don't believe that worked correctly on previous Huawei devices either.
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Had someone on Reddit confirm that the lockscreen is still the same. Some have said it is a bug, but seems working as intended to me. (Been a "bug" since EMUI 8.1)
I haven't inquired about backgrounding issues. Not much point. This has been a thing with EMUI since day 1. (And other China OEMs too)
Thanks for the replies very helpful. I know the mate 20 pro is the best out of the bunch its whether i can live with EMUI. I had this in the past with samsung s6 edge, loved the phone but hated the software and ended up getting rid of it very quickly. I think if the pixel was £100 cheaper or had a bigger battery i would 100% go with that for the software experience.
The decision would be so much easier if they allowed bootloader unlock and custom roms would solve half the issues! Still no closer to the decision.
A couple of extra points
Mate 20 curved screen will be a pain for glass screen protectors so thats a -
Still cant work out if the UK model is single sim or dual sim! (says its micro sd expandable so is that where the extra sim goes)
I think the camera will be just as good as the pixel...in some ways better because of the wide angle lens etc. The pixel 3 probably will be the best point and shoot but I don't think either will dissapoint you
I've bite the bullet and pre ordered the mate 20 pro.
What really turned the tide for me is 2 videos on youtube, 1 a speed comparison against the note 9 and it smashed it, which proved to me it wont be a laggy crappy software (mostly)
and 2nd a battery drain test which it got nearly 7 hours of SOT which was 2 hours better than the note 9 and 3 hours more than most of the others.
Phil750123 said:
I've bite the bullet and pre ordered the mate 20 pro.
What really turned the tide for me is 2 videos on youtube, 1 a speed comparison against the note 9 and it smashed it, which proved to me it wont be a laggy crappy software (mostly)
and 2nd a battery drain test which it got nearly 7 hours of SOT which was 2 hours better than the note 9 and 3 hours more than most of the others.
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Hehe same thinking bud, yeah also saw some videos and pic comparisons on YouTube especially the mrwhosetheboss and i believe we should give the Huawei a go, like u said it's definitely blowin the note in most aspects and free watch is definitely a good bonus
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Hehe same thinking bud, yeah also saw some videos and pic comparisons on YouTube especially the mrwhosetheboss and i believe we should give the Huawei a go, like u said it's definitely blowin the note in most aspects and free watch is definitely a good bonus
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yer the watch did help me decide.
What i dont get in the UK is its 899 sim free, the pixel 3 xl 64gb is around 850 yet all the contracts for the huwaei are coming out about £5 a month less, also helped me decide.
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yer the watch did help me decide.
What i dont get in the UK is its 899 sim free, the pixel 3 xl 64gb is around 850 yet all the contracts for the huwaei are coming out about £5 a month less, also helped me decide.
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See i went with sim free but what got me here is 50 quid more for mate, and free watch and charger is 250, so basically mate is working out 200 quid cheaper and 6gb ram vs the 4 and this massive battey, when pixie 3 battery is sitting at 3400 compared to my pixel 2 xl 3500 with a smaller screen? Impulse buy but hey, if we somehow hate it, or cant get used to it... Swap or sell after few months right? It aint a new car xd
It's very easy : get the pixel 3 and then youll want to get the mate 20 Pro for sure!
Preorderd mine today. Can't wait to finish a day without worrying at all about the battery. That's the feature I'm most excited about, since every phone, at this price, seems to have a great camera and screen. Really not that excited that I'll get to open youtube a half a second faster than other phones. Also, EMUI can be improved with apps and themes.
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Preorderd mine today. Can't wait to finish a day without worrying at all about the battery. That's the feature I'm most excited about, since every phone, at this price, seems to have a great camera and screen. Really not that excited that I'll get to open youtube a half a second faster than other phones. Also, EMUI can be improved with apps and themes.
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Pretty excited about this as well, I'm pretty sure I will still average about 6000 mah a day, I almost always charge from like 50 to 90% using wireless charging while at work but for the days I forgot to wireless charge, the fact that even if I get home with less than 5% and just plugging it in for like 15 minutes (instead of like 40 minutes like my note 9) and being back to like 40% to finish the day is amazing.
I agree
I purchased a Note 9 when it was released and loved it but eventually caught the Huawei/Honor bug and ended up selling the Note 9. After I'm now looking for a phone to replace it and the only one that takes my fancy is the Mate 20 Pro.
My question is - Is it worth it? Is there a better Huawei/Honor phones that would be a better purchase at this point?
Thank you x
If you are able to wait until end of March, the new P30 pro is rumored to have a similar screen size but should have improved cameras.
Otherwise, the mate 20 pro is probably their best (or p20 pro if you want a smaller size which I'm guessing you don't).
I would only say that if you take a lot of selfies, you will probably be disappointed (fixed focus, post processing is meh) but otherwise, lots of flexibility with the cameras and I personally use nova launcher so I don't see their original Gui which is often a complaint.
Edit: you could also check the Mate 20 X. Bigger screen (7.2") and stylus support if that's your thing. Same cameras. Waterdrop type notch (no face id) and you lose a few extras like ip68.
I think it would be wise to wait at the moment. Not only have we got the P30 series soon but also the Galaxy 10 range later this month and they look like they might be quite good.
No why support a company that has turned its back on developers by not allowing unlocking the bootloader after allowing it for so long
Wait for s10 or p30.
i decided to ditch the mate 20 pro after a month. (poor battery life compared to p20 pro and regular mate 20) and the screen issues.
i went to for the bigger mate 20 x as a second phone (media games internet etc) cuz of its battery, screen, speakers, real FP scanner, no screen issues and the same cameras as the mate 20 pro.
waiting for the s10 plus to replace my note 9 as a primary phone
Thanks for all the replies. Personally don't care about bootloaders and I never root my phones anymore. But concerned about the amount of replies telling me not to go for it.
As I'm currently using a £250 mid-range Honor Play phone, I'm really wanting to upgrade asap and with the deals on new mate 20 pros at £600 floating around, I still may ignore advice and go for it! I guess I could always upgrade again in a few months time to the P30 or S10!
Thanks again for all the replies, I appreciate it.
Don't get me wrong. Personally, I think it's a great phone and if you're in the market for an upgrade and don't care about timing then go for it. I was merely saying that if you're after the latest and greatest then waiting a few extra weeks might be prudent.
I've not rooted a phone for ages, I don't think there's really the need so much now that Android has gotten so much better over the years, so that aspect doesn't worry me either.
Love the mate 20 Pro and that's coming from a note 9. Software not as refined as sammys with a few glitches but works well
I sold my P20 Pro and got the Mate 20 Pro .. much better. IMO I'd grab a M20P if you find one at a good price, the P30 Pro won't be cheap and I doubt the specs will over shadow the M20P, maybe better camera (slightly) and no notch .. not flagship selling points worth the higher price if compared to a discounted M20P.
My 2 cents ..
I know the Mate 20 pro re-appeared on Google’s Android Q Beta page, but I'm really not sure about what to do with the phone. It's great but the uncertainty is a bit worrying.
Is there anyone out there that has sold or is considering selling the mate20pro? If yes, which phones did you go for/are you considering?
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I know the Mate 20 pro re-appeared on Google’s Android Q Beta page, but I'm really not sure about what to do with the phone. It's great but the uncertainty is a bit worrying.
Is there anyone out there that has sold or is considering selling the mate20pro? If yes, which phones did you go for/are you considering?
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If you are going to change I'd wait for more 5G phones to come out
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If you are going to change I'd wait for more 5G phones to come out
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Fair point, but it's just that if I think like that I'll have to stick to the mate20pro for another half year or so, most other "flagship" android phones have already been released for this year.. I reckon that the S10 or S10+ are the only ones that come close to the mate20pro in terms of camera versatility, battery, size, and I'd also get the headphone jack, which is nice.
Still not decided whether to sell it or not. I could sell it for max 400 EUR now...
In case I sell Mate then probably will chose between OP7 Pro and S10+. Each has pros and cons, but certainly I will miss Mate's camera. And charging speed (ok, OP is close here). And 3D face unlock..
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I'm waiting for next years batch of 5G handsets
tobias14 said:
Still not decided whether to sell it or not. I could sell it for max 400 EUR now...
In case I sell Mate then probably will chose between OP7 Pro and S10+. Each has pros and cons, but certainly I will miss Mate's camera. And charging speed (ok, OP is close here). And 3D face unlock..
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Right, same here - the only "real" alternative is the P30 pro :silly:
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I'm waiting for next years batch of 5G handsets
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So you'll stick to the mate20 pro for another 10 months or so? I'm not trying to be sarcastic or anything, we might be lucky and they figure it all out in the next couple of weeks/months but it could take much longer and then the re-sell value of the mate20pro will be very low (apart from the risk of not having an updated Android version).
I have the same problem. Only phone what can change is P30 Pro but good one model, without reed, orange color problem in camera.
S10 Plus is finr but still no even close to Mate 20 Pro.
Im still on my Mate 20 Pro and I cant change it, because P30 Pro is still expensive for me. But the price is falling day by day for my Mate 20 Pro.
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Right, same here - the only "real" alternative is the P30 pro :silly:
So you'll stick to the mate20 pro for another 10 months or so? I'm not trying to be sarcastic or anything, we might be lucky and they figure it all out in the next couple of weeks/months but it could take much longer and then the re-sell value of the mate20pro will be very low (apart from the risk of not having an updated Android version).
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Only the Pixel will have Android Q this year anyway and it doesn't contain anything EMUI hasn't already got so why rush to change
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Only the Pixel will have Android Q this year anyway and it doesn't contain anything EMUI hasn't already got so why rush to change
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For me it's related to the security updates, maybe we'll stop getting them within a couple of months, we just can't be sure at this point. If that should happen (hopefully it won't!) the phone wouldn't sell for anything really, so it's sort of sell while it's still sellable.
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For me it's related to the security updates, maybe we'll stop getting them within a couple of months, we just can't be sure at this point. If that should happen (hopefully it won't!) the phone wouldn't sell for anything really, so it's sort of sell while it's still sellable.
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Yep, thinking exactly the same. Sadly for me there is no proper alternative right now.
OP7 camera is dissapointing (according to feedbacks on OP forums), it has ghost touch issues (probably SW related, so fixable)..
S10+ on the other hand has desperately slow charging, camera is good but still a no match for Mate's in poor light conditions
Well, probably will sell my Mate soon and anyway take one of the above devices. As you say, it may happen that in few months this phone won't be sellable
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All this fear for security updates. It's a phone, don't goto all those free download sites.
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[email protected] said:
All this fear for security updates. It's a phone, don't goto all those free download sites.
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My point exactly it doesn't bother me
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All this fear for security updates. It's a phone, don't goto all those free download sites.
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My point exactly it doesn't bother me
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It's great if that works for you guys.
But it's a relatively new device, I'm not really ok with not getting security updates. There's a reason those are rolled out, and it's not just to protect users from shady download sites.
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It's great if that works for you guys.
But it's a relatively new device, I'm not really ok with not getting security updates. There's a reason those are rolled out, and it's not just to protect users from shady download sites.
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Be honest now, when have you ever checked security update schedules for any of your devices since mobile phones became common place? Before purchasing.
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people are worrying about Huawei a little too much, nothing is going to come of it, business will carry on as usual imho
cisco kidd said:
people are worrying about Huawei a little too much, nothing is going to come of it, business will carry on as usual imho
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Well, it seems they have just stopped or at least slowed down production dramatically
https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdof...fter-blacklisting-reports-claim/#7db58d556eed
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Be honest now, when have you ever checked security update schedules for any of your devices since mobile phones became common place? Before purchasing.
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You are right, it's not the first thing I look at. The truth is that I started worrying more and more about security as I got older, probably because I have way more sensitive information now than I had in my teens (banking apps and stuff, emails, whatsapp which yes, I could all remove, but that defeats the purpose of a smartphone) - it's the principle that matters.
Also, another thing is that it could well be that in some months we all have to install Ark OS, which allegedly will work with android apps but that's not what I signed up for when I spent almost $1k on this phone.
It's like buying an electric car and after one year they tell you that it's a hybrid now.
Got an iPhone XS Max 256 GB and i love it ! I still have my mate 20 pro. Maybe I will sell it but I got used to iOS so quick and it is really good. I got a used one from swappa less than 800 and it works great. I’ve been an Android fan for some years now but I think I might like the iPhone better also I live in USA and iMessage is a must here. Don’t be afraid of using other OS. Camera is great as well. No night mode or ultra wide but the standard pictures IMO are more flattering and taking pictures it’s instant. I took a bunch of pictures and colored side by side and surprisingly I like the iPhones better. Just wanted to tell you my experience
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Well, it seems they have just stopped or at least slowed down production dramatically
https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdof...fter-blacklisting-reports-claim/#7db58d556eed
You are right, it's not the first thing I look at. The truth is that I started worrying more and more about security as I got older, probably because I have way more sensitive information now than I had in my teens (banking apps and stuff, emails, whatsapp which yes, I could all remove, but that defeats the purpose of a smartphone) - it's the principle that matters.
Also, another thing is that it could well be that in some months we all have to install Ark OS, which allegedly will work with android apps but that's not what I signed up for when I spent almost $1k on this phone.
It's like buying an electric car and after one year they tell you that it's a hybrid now.
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All current devices will continue to receive security updates and access to google play, Future devices may not but as it appears Google and Huawei are working together. Of course everything published is negative is that not the way it always is? Doom and gloom first then reality. I just bought a P30 Pro on device upgrade yesterday for cheap 350 in canada and my mthly plan stayed pretty much the same as it ws prior, in fact I got more data , I am in Canada. I am not too concerned, in fact if I opt for the Mate 20 I can save another 100 but damn the 10x zoom is so appealing, yet to open box
I think this is not a really big issue, even if you can't get auto update on your Huawei.
Google can't stop you install the software
such a nice phone what a pity to throw away
I'll probably get Pixel 4 or Pixel 4XL somewhere in November - December. Don't want one more Chinese phone anymore.
Looking at the speculation about the upcoming Galaxy S11, I'm wondering whether to cancel my preorder, hold on to Note 8, and wait for the Note 11.
For me, coming from the Note 8 to the Note 10 is quite an upgrade, but it's been spoiled by the negativity surrounding it.
It's possible that next years Note 11 will have a higher screen refresh, a new camera with 10x zoom, 5G on the SOC and hopefully no punch hole.
I know that the next big thing is always around the corner, but has the furore surrounding this years Note left a slightly bitter taste for you, as it has me?
Anyone else facing this dilemma,
I have a Note 8 and I'm getting the Note 10. Plus. It's a big upgrade from the 8. I don't care what others think. I like the phone and I'm getting it and can't wait.
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I have a Note 8 and I'm getting the Note 10. Plus. It's a big upgrade from the 8. I don't care what others think. I like the phone and I'm getting it and can't wait.
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Agree with you. I too have an N8 and N10 plus is a pretty decent upgrade.
Upgrading or not is an individual's choice and one may or may not have many reasons to upgrade or leave N10. I had decided not to upgrade from N8 and was waiting from Mate 3 Pro, but then i was in a Mall shopping & i crossed a Samsung Cafe and thought of checking the demo unit of N10 & i fell in love with its overall beauty and pre-booked it.
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I have a Note 8 and I'm getting the Note 10. Plus. It's a big upgrade from the 8. I don't care what others think. I like the phone and I'm getting it and can't wait.
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I tend to agree with you, for me, these controversies started with the pre release leaks that over hyped what to expect.
People were talking about 90hz screens, 10x zoom on 48 megapixel sensors, sound on display and free wireless buds.
It's then becomes a bit galling when none of it materialises on the Note, but yet competitors and even some Samsung non flagships are touted as getting these features.
What makes it worse is that Samsung developed these technologies and then produces them for it's competitors, but omits them on what's meant to be it's marquee device.
I have cancelled mine as it is not good enough to justify an upgrade from Note 9. I will have a look at what Huawei and Google have to say and decide thereon... In the meanwhile I do respect everyone' s opinion and decision...
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I have cancelled mine as it is not good enough to justify an upgrade from Note 9. I will have a look at what Huawei and Google have to say and decide thereon... In the meanwhile I do respect everyone' s opinion and decision...
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My daughter has a Note 9, which I was in two minds of getting for her at the time, since I didn't consider it much of an upgrade from the 8.
I totally understand your stance, and in this period that we've entered of only incremental upgrades, the 'Note' upgrade cycle will for most people be biannual.
Duh.................................................nah. Not cancelling my preorder, there will always be a bigger and better phone right around the corner. I did get free wireless buds and a 10,000 mAh Portable Battery. Not as much as in the past but if you don't want it.....................................just wait.
I won't cancel mine now cause for a decent amount off when ordering from Very. I did expect possibly to get wireless earbuds but I think that was just cause I was hoping. Going from the note 8 also I very happy with my choice so far. Yeah I used my headphone jack before but I'll adapt as we all will have too soon
Don't base your decision on Note 11 rumours. Any Note 11 spec is just speculation and fantasy. How many years did people speculate things like a foldable, or in screen thumbprint reader before anything was released with those?
Will the Note 11 be better than the Note 10? Hopefully they get better with each version. The real question is are you ready to upgrade your Note 8? If so get the 10, if not, see what comes out next year.
Upgrading from the S9+. I figure it'll be a great update since it's a generation back. Plus, I like larger phones and the pen will come in handy. Also, I already use wireless buds at the gym, so the lack of a headphone jack is not a deal-breaker for me.
this 10x optical zoom?
what's the zoom on the note 10+ ?
I have the note 9 and I plan to upgrade. Reason is the trade in each year makes it worth it. I only spent 300 on my note 9 when I traded in my note 8 and the 10+ will only cost me 500 (300 when you factor in the accessories they give you). By the time the note 11 comes out I'm sure Samsung will give you a trade in allowance just like they did for the 10.
Hellz no.
I'm going from an S10 plus and Note 9 to a Note 10 plus.
I will so get the S11 and the Note 11 lol.
I've been doing this pretty much since the S3 with few exceptions along the way.
I also get a new google device yearly as well since the galaxy nexus other than the 1st gen pixel and pixel 3 xl (because they both were terrible).
No sense waiting...get what you want now then just do it again once the next device drops that you like.
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I have the note 9 and I plan to upgrade. Reason is the trade in each year makes it worth it. I only spent 300 on my note 9 when I traded in my note 8 and the 10+ will only cost me 500 (300 when you factor in the accessories they give you). By the time the note 11 comes out I'm sure Samsung will give you a trade in allowance just like they did for the 10.
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Exactly. Doesn't make sense to wait. There's a huge difference between the 9 and the 10+, let alone the 8! I'm paying 340 for mine with the trade-in, barring they don't deny the hairline cracks in the back (not effecting the camera or screen). :angel:
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this 10x optical zoom?
what's the zoom on the note 10+ ?
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I think it's 2x?
I once was that guy. Upgraded my phone every year.. until the Note 7 incident. Which to me was over blown also.. That's when we were downgraded to the S7. Hated that phone and thought I will be a note user for life. After I got the Note 8 and saw the note 9. I felt it wasn't worth the upgrade. So yes now I will be upgrading on even numbers. Odd numbers will get the best new features. And even numbers we get a little extra icing on our cake. I still don't see what all this disappointment is about this phone. I'm sorry but we have gotten spoiled about having all these great innovations every 6 months. I will say this. Hell you could have an Iphone.
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I still don't see what all this disappointment is about this phone.
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I think most of the noise and disappointment could have been avoided if Samsung named the models differently. The Note10+ is really what Note users expect in a Note phone. If they would have called it the Note 10 and the smaller one the Note 10e I don't think there would be as many negative comments about this release.
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I think most of the noise and disappointment could have been avoided if Samsung named the models differently. The Note10+ is really what Note users expect in a Note phone. If they would have called it the Note 10 and the smaller one the Note 10e I don't think there would be as many negative comments about this release.
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Agree. My daughter got the S10 and the wife got the S10e, which is actually the S10 with a flat screen and slightly lower specs which is essentially what the Note 10 is except for the flat screen.
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I once was that guy. Upgraded my phone every year.. until the Note 7 incident. Which to me was over blown also.. That's when we were downgraded to the S7. Hated that phone and thought I will be a note user for life. After I got the Note 8 and saw the note 9. I felt it wasn't worth the upgrade. So yes now I will be upgrading on even numbers. Odd numbers will get the best new features. And even numbers we get a little extra icing on our cake. I still don't see what all this disappointment is about this phone. I'm sorry but we have gotten spoiled about having all these great innovations every 6 months. I will say this. Hell you could have an Iphone.
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That's exactly what happened to me and where I stand. I also didn't get the Note 9 as I didn't see it as much of a worth while upgrade from the Note 8. But the Note 10+ is a different story and is why I'm getting it. I honestly don't care about the headphone jack as I rarely use it. My only thing is the notification light, but even then I am normally paired to my S3 Frontier so I also don't see that as much of an issue either. It wasn't even until I went into a T-Mobile store and saw and interacted with the demo unit that I was sold on getting the phone and also what sold me on not getting it in the aura glow color.
I have been having this disease of buying every new Samsung flagship since S- I9000. I said YES to my regular retailer who called me up for a preorder.
I got the chance to use the the non-retail N10+ for a day recently. Completely based on my own tastes, I'm finding this Note 10+, for the first time ever on a Galaxy Note , not adequately upgraded enough from its immediate "S" predecessor that I own, even though it's been upgraded in few other ways.
In short, I might end up cancelling it.Even if I buy after all, I will not be using it more than 3 months from now, as I am pretty sure I will be buying what Google has for us anyways on 1st release to replace daily driver - thriving to use ideas based on innovation that should actually work, that I'm not seeing in a long time.
my plan is almost over And have the choice of renewing my plan....
what phone choice are you leaning to?
love the phone but hate the boatloader lock and the option to get vanilla android.....i think I'm going for a Xperia phone again...
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my plan is almost over And have the choice of renewing my plan....
what phone choice are you leaning to?
love the phone but hate the boatloader lock and the option to get vanilla android.....i think I'm going for a Xperia phone again...
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I've still several months to go on my plan but I'm looking/considering Xperia X1 ii.
Not a Huawei. because I need Google Apps. Right now my Mate 20 Pro is still the "perfect" phone.
I don't have a huge list of "wants" for my next phone...
1. Decent camera.
2. Reasonably fast software updates (so probably not Sony)
3. Unbloated (so not Samsung or Oppo or Xiaomi)
4. Waterproof
5. 5G would be nice
6. Biggish battery with fast charging.
7. 90 or 120Hz display.
So it's looking like it's either a OnePlus something or the Pixel 5 at the moment. Or I might just go SIM-only on my phone contract and wait until 2021.
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Mate 20 pro
I am very happy with the phone. If I need to replace, I will buy huawei mate series again.:good:
Mine is also up for renewal next month
Waiting for mate 40 Pro
If that is beyond the budget then P40 pro plus or Mi 10 Ultra
Depends if you need GAPPS.
The later Huawei phones are all useless if you do.
Such a shame. Awesome devices crippled by lack of services.
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Mine is also up for renewal next month
Waiting for mate 40 Pro
If that is beyond the budget then P40 pro plus or Mi 10 Ultra
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Be careful with that Mi 10 Ultra, I recently have been looking into it, I thought I might try it out, the specs are great but for that price it's lacking some things that it shouldn't be. Ex: it has no waterproofing. Although it may not be necessary to some people, I was caught in rain with my Mate 20 Pro and of course it was okay but I'd be too afraid with that one, especially for that kind of money. And no QHD screen resolution. The battery also seems to get really hot while charging to the point you can't even hold the phone, from what I've seen in some tests and in this article. That's a bit concerning. I mean that extremely fast charger seems great to have but I don't know about the overheating. Just wish they actually perfected it fully not just half way.
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Not a Huawei. because I need Google Apps. Right now my Mate 20 Pro is still the "perfect" phone.
I don't have a huge list of "wants" for my next phone...
1. Decent camera.
2. Reasonably fast software updates (so probably not Sony)
3. Unbloated (so not Samsung or Oppo or Xiaomi)
4. Waterproof
5. 5G would be nice
6. Biggish battery with fast charging.
7. 90 or 120Hz display.
So it's looking like it's either a OnePlus something or the Pixel 5 at the moment. Or I might just go SIM-only on my phone contract and wait until 2021.
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Oneplus 8 pro