Has anybody here switched from [no Root] Samsung [Galaxy]? - Google Pixel 3 Guides, News, & Discussion

Hi all,
I've had my Samsung Galaxy S8 for 2 years now and am eligible/ready to upgrade. I could wait a little longer, although my wife broke her S8 and needs a new phone now. I try to keep us on the same hardware. The S10 is a tempting upgrade, but it's expensive, and I think it is larger than the S8, and I really don't want larger.
I swore that the S8 would be my last phone with a locked bootloader that I can't root. That said, I really like Samsung's build quality. I realize the consensus is that the Pixel 3 takes better photos (but not better video). I miss all of the possibilities that come with being able to root.
I'm wondering what everyone here thinks if you've been in the same situation in the past.
Lastly, I'm reading that the Pixel 4 is expected next month, and I think I may hold out for that in hopes of better hardware specs.
Thoughts are very welcome.

I switched from a no-root Galaxy S8 to a Pixel 3 a few months ago. I grabbed the Pixel 3 when it hit a discount, because I knew I didn't want to pay the PIxel 4 release price. My main reason to do the upgrade when I did was because I had an unbranded S8, which meant on AT&T I didn't get to use VoLTE or wi-fi calling. The lack of wi-fi calling was a problem for me. Both work on the Pixel 3 as well as they work on any other phone.
I got so used to no-root on the S8, that I haven't bothered to root the 3, so I can't speak to that aspect.
As for a comparison between the phones.
Advantage S8
Fantastic screen (however you feel about the curve)
Samsung Health stuff, including the blood O2 sensor
The magnetic thing to use non-NFC payment terminals
Tested by me water proofness
Advantage Pixel 3
Somewhat faster
Fantastic camera
much better speakers
fewer bugs
Google updates
Some of those are real close. The Pixel 3 screen is good, just not S8 levels. The S8 camera is good, just not Pixel 3 levels. To me, Samsung Pay and the pulse Ox sensor were fun toys, but I could go months without using either.
The most striking difference to me was the improved speaker quality on the Pixel 3. That was certainly one of the weak points of the S8, but also something that was a surprise to me, because I'd not seen it mentioned in reviews.
The S8 and bluetooth in my primary car never got along, though it worked just fine in the secondary car. The Pixel 3 works well in both cars.
There are some other features on the S8, like iris scanning, that I never used, so I don't miss at all. In all, the Pixel 3 is probably better, but mostly because Samsung is so bad at timely updates and bug fixes. For example, they went through the entire Android 9 beta and one or two post-release updates before fixing the bug of Hiya call blocking turning off after reboot.

I am still running an S7 edge. I just bought a Pixel 3 last night at a discount. Got the S7 the day it was released. My S7 is lucky to get 4 hours of battery life with very minimal usage. I bought the Pixel 3 because I am tired of Samsung crap. My back glass is shattered and slowly falling apart because of a phone mount, and my front screen is cracked from simply tipping over from its side.
Been wanting to go back to the pure Android experience since the HTC ION (MyTouch for the Tmobile users). I will never go back to Samsung cheap crap ever again.

I bought the S9 in March from Cricket for $350 brand new, a week before the S10 came out. I love the phone, but i decided to pickup the Pixel 3, got it on a deal at bestbuy for $399 unlocked The day Android Q came out.
1. Yes, the display on the S9 is great, but i do not miss the curved display, as it made it hard for me to type, i never really got used to where to press to type letters close to the edge, so i am glad of the Pixel 3's flat dislpay
2. The stock android, really, is not very different from the One UI interface. But i do prefer the stock android experience except 2 things: Can't swipe down anywhere on the screen when at the home screen to bring down notifications (i guess i could install nova launcher, but i really like the Q gestures, as it makes one-handed operation so easy). The other thing is when entering a pin to unlock the screen, i have to press the "enter button", which samsung One UI got me spoiled by when the last number is pressed it unlocks the phone
3. Dolby Atmos on the S9 was killer! No comparison with the Pixel 3. I kinda miss that
4. Pixel 3 is simple, powerful, no extra gimmicks, i like that!
5. Camera, clearly the Pixel is superior

i agree with JML - came from the S8. my reason for leaving was all of the samsung bloatware (experience?!?!), that stupid bixby button, screen size, and did not like the touchable screen going over the edges. I consistently had troubles with that. also, the speaker was too small and placed on the bottom edge, so sound quality was poor.
but the device was beautiful, and worked fairly well. I did not root as my reason to do would be to remove ads, but I got around with SABS. with the pixel 3, you can just set the VPN to dns.adguard.com and block all ads without having to install any apps (although, blockada was pretty effective).
hope this helps.

Once you go stock Android you never go back.......NEVER

Hey all!
Revisiting this now that the Pixel 4 is out. I know that specs aren't everything, but they kind of seem behind.
Now I'm still torn. I checked out the OnePlus 7 Pro 5G, but I don't want a plus sized phone... And the bootloader is still locked.
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muzicman82 said:
Hey all!
Revisiting this now that the Pixel 4 is out. I know that specs aren't everything, but they kind of seem behind.
Now I'm still torn. I checked out the OnePlus 7 Pro 5G, but I don't want a plus sized phone... And the bootloader is still locked.
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Pixel 3, friend. You will still get updates for at least 1-2 years, if not more. The pixel 4 has better specs, but the pixel 3 will hold up well, plus it will have the same software experience

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Overall love

Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
besides color, i think everything else is what i looked for in a phone.
I love it!!
Compared to my S6 Edge+ I am just not feeling it
Came from S6E+ - everything is better (especially microsd and camera focus)
I really like the feel and look of this device. Reminds me of the days when the first iPhone 4 came out (yeah that feeling)
First phone in ages that got me realy exited, and after a week of usage,, still amazed!
LOVE IT !
I hate to say it but I'm actually not that much in love with the s7 edge. Coming from a note 5 I can't tell the upgrade. Maybe I'm just a note fanboy but something seems to be missing for me.
Coming from a Note 4, this thing feels great (but Note 4 was nice). This is an upgrade in everyway, except for no S pen, which i did not use too much. This phone should last me a while, lovin it.
chavist said:
I hate to say it but I'm actually not that much in love with the s7 edge. Coming from a note 5 I can't tell the upgrade. Maybe I'm just a note fanboy but something seems to be missing for me.
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Is it the S-Pen, maybe?
I am loving it. In fact I haven't felt this way about an Anrdroid Phone since the HTC EVO 4G back in 2010.
have the stealth black 935F version, really nice! the only thing I would change is the Samsung logo under the grill.
of course you will really love it! its a $870 phone
The only thing impressive about this phone is the battery life. Not feeling the love.
Coming from a Nexus 6p,it is a good phone. I would actually change and go with the regular s7 but I don't want to give up the 600mah in battery life. This battery is bigger than the 6p but it seems to last longer than the 6p.
I don't love it yet, but there's a definite attraction that could develop into something over time. Then of course after a while the excitement will fade and everything will just seem stale and mundane. Maybe I should get another phone to see on the side to keep things fresh.
I may be writing this prematurely, as mine is on order and should be here early next week. But I've been using the S6 for the past year, and the S7 edge seems to solve the few problems I had with the S6. I've read all the reviews I could find, and my needs for a larger battery and the SD card make this phone almost perfect.
Getting mine on the 18th,kinda feel excited seeing more positive. Yay.. hope i wouldn't get the lemon though.. lol
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I don't love it yet, but there's a definite attraction that could develop into something over time. Then of course after a while the excitement will fade and everything will just seem stale and mundane. Maybe I should get another phone to see on the side to keep things fresh.
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This is always my fear. I already have a iPhone 6S as my daily driver that gives me no problems and a Nexus 6 that I rarely use because the 6S is so much faster. I'm afraid that if I get the S7 and compare it to the 6S speed wise I'm just going to be disappointed with the purchase. To be honest I've played with the S7 like 4 times at different stores and every time my 6S feels faster but I miss Android and the S7 Edge looks so much better. Just today I almost walked out the door with a S7 Edge at Target only because I was told that I could stack a $100 upgrade giftcard with the $100 preorder giftcard and Gear VR. I guess they figured out that you can't stack the giftcards so I walked out the store empty handled. $200 in Target giftcards and Gear VR would have sealed the deal.
So now I wait to see the G5 (I want the IR blaster, on screen buttons) is any good but it all depends on price. Then you have the HTC 10 but I'm not holding my breath. If those disappoint it looks like iPhone 7 and maybe a Nexus towards year end. The current Nexus 6P is dropping now but I already have a Nexus 6.
I LOVE THIS PHONE. Even TouchWiz, I can't believe it. I actually love TW now.
Coming from the Note 4, the width of this Galaxy S7 Edge is near perfect. Still features a big beautiful display but it doesn't feel like you're palming a small tablet. On top of that it's a beautifully crafted device. Easy to pickup and a joy to hold in your hand. Not to mention it's fast. Everything is fast. Opening the camera is fast. Multitasking. No lag. The app drawer snaps open. The camera hardware / camera app and fingerprint scanner also score high marks in my book. Camera pro shooting mode is the camera app I've hoped Samsung would have given us for some time. I suppose better late than never. Fingerprint scanner is every bit as nice as Apple's. I hated having to swipe down on the button and I ruined my first prints because I still thought that was how it was done. I realized you just set your finger down and it reads it. Done. Whether it's to unlock the phone, input a password or use Samsung Pay it's easy the way it should be. Special shoutout to the guys who brought back the S5's expandable MicroSD and waterproof exterior design. Aside from root, this beast covers all my bases.
Re: Battery, I've spent the whole weekend fiddling with it and syncing all my data so I'm not even thinking about battery life, screen on time, etc. At the end of the week I'll have a better idea of how the battery fares. For now, way too early to call.

How does the note 3 stack up in 2016?

I'm looking to get one of these majestic beasts for its USB 3.0 port to test with PC VR with the increased transfer rates. How does its variant of the snapdragon 800 hold up in the modern day and age? Would you say it's comparable to a snapdragon 615//415/808? Also with camera quality. It doesn't have to be much better than "pretty good"
After having the Note 7 for almost 2 months, I don't miss it one bit. I had to give it up of course so I just went back to my Note 3. With root I am completely satisfied and was never that impressed with the 7 other than the camera. The speeds honestly weren't that much different IMO.
I rolled back to the note 3. This phone was the last Note for Sprint that could use data and cellular service at the same time.
Holding Up Great!
Running CM 14, Pixel XL Rom
with Assistant working.
On T-Mobile. Giving my S6 away as a Xmas present.
It's a pain in the ass to have the lte radio stick on note 7 6.0.1 mm ports, but if you're lucky that it does, it's great.
Unfortunately, the usb 3.0 support varies on the rom. The note 7 ports do NOT have 3.0 support. The rest, I'm not sure. Samsung had the pleasure to leave the note 3 with lp 5.0..
I don't use the camera often, but I tested it at a concert last month to record video and impressed my apple-fanboy brother with the quality.
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I rolled back to the note 3. This phone was the last Note for Sprint that could use data and cellular service at the same time.
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I learned that one the hard way after falling for the old upgrade deal with the note 5 while on a sales call following my gps and it stopped updating and I missed my exit. Note 3 is the last good note with all the features that a power user could want besides another gig or so of RAM I suppose. External charger and spare batteries are still faster than any quick charging too. Ended up giving the note 5 upgrade to mom after a week or two. It was nice to have my IR blaster universal remote, sd card and usb 3.0 back. I can't stand the direction samsung went after the note 3. Unknowingly giving up simutaneous voice and data on Sprint was the biggest deal breaker of all. A sealed glass back is just dumb and more breakable...plastic construction was always better with weight and durability. Could care less if the fake chrome bling gets scratched or plastic marred as long as it holds up like it has all these years.
I have to say I love my note 3. I've dropped it I don't know how many times. Sometimes while standing, I'll go to put it in my pocket and it'll slip and hit the concrete. Screen fine, chrome siding dinged. I have a s7 edge that was in a case, fell from half the height my note 3 did, hit my rubber shoe. Screen cracked, rear glass plate cracked. Thought these had a higher version of gorilla glass. Obviously they don't or gorilla glass isn't what it used to be.
I've had my note 3 since release almost. I'm looking at getting it replaced under Sprint claim. Wonder if they still have note 3's because I don't want anything newer.
I can't believe Samsung hasn't gone back to this device and build up from it. All note devices after the 3 have sucked in one way or the other. Good going Samsung, instead of moving forward, you're moving backwards.
The Note 3 is still great in 2017. It's not my daily driver but my mom's. Still excellent battery, fast & smooth, and the battery can be replaced later.
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im on the note 5 right now and pretty pissed that for exactly 1 year there has been only 1 rom called moar. There are 1 or 2 more, but no where as good as moar and im pissed for the lack of development. Fast charge is great, wish note 3 would have same feature, but the unaccesable battery in the note 5 had the glass screen ripped and crushed to replace battery. Been only a year but i tested the battery and it dropped to 2300 mah out of 3000 and took longer to fast charge and discharged faster than normal. And i didnt want the note 5 either but i got it for a dollar from samsclub black friday deal. I wasnt happy at all when the note 5 came out due to simple fact it was designed and had the exact same hardware as s6. same camera, same chips, same resoulution etc. Im using the note 3 as an pad now, and it was very sad there was a note 3 marshmellow rom before moar updated to marshmellow. And same problem right now, moar fell behined 6 to 8 firmware updates, the last update took 4 months before it was every 2 weeks. I downloaded the dark horse rom and boy am i rejocying, its a lot like my note 5.

I do not know whether to buy or not help :)

I really like this phone, I already had oppo 2 or 3 years ago and very happy, I have serious doubts, if I buy, I have in mind these following. (second hand market) all with invoice and guarantee 2 years
European model oppo - approx € 600
Note 9 512gb - 700 € approx
mate 20 pro - 700 € approx
I am watching videos and forums but very few people have the oppo to be able to compare or recommend the purchase, and I am also afraid that the oppo will remain in OREO
Here's the deal, I had a Note 8 and an S8 plus before this phone. The S8 plus amoled display started showing burn ins within 3 months. The Note 8 was fine but nothing too special. I got tired and bored of Samsung and their lag as well. Yes, the Note 8 did lag for me and freeze here and there. It wasn't a MAJOR issue but it was an issue.
I was hesitant at first but then decided to leave Samsung behind and I couldn't be happier. The Find X is not only a beauty and innovative, it's a BEAST. Super fast and smooth. Been using since launch and I have not had it lag or stutter once yet. No forcecloses like Samsung. Plays PUBG like butter and doesn't hiccup like my S8 plus and Note 8 did. Charges WAY faster than Samsung and yes fast charging still works when the screen is on, unlike Samsung phones where fast charging stops working when you're using the phone.
Battery lasts all day if you're not playing games constantly.
No waterproofing and no wireless charging, but I honestly don't care about those.
No dual speakers but I also don't care about that either.
1080 not 4k display but it still looks great.
I got the Chinese version and I went through hell to make it as close as possible to what I'm used to but I'm used to it now. My notifications coming in just fine and nova launcher working as usual. My only issue is not being able to display Google play music widget on lockscreen.
Durability is not an issue for either, a good screen protector and a case does it for me. There are motorized cases that cover the whole phone in case you're wondering. I rock it with no case most of the time to be honest and yes people do ask me what phone is that ALL THE TIME especially when the camera pops up.
My advice, yes go for it but get the international version unless you wanna spend a couple days tailoring the phone to your liking.
SaltyAf said:
Here's the deal, I had a Note 8 and an S8 plus before this phone. The S8 plus amoled display started showing burn ins within 3 months. The Note 8 was fine but nothing too special. I got tired and bored of Samsung and their lag as well. Yes, the Note 8 did lag for me and freeze here and there. It wasn't a MAJOR issue but it was an issue.
I was hesitant at first but then decided to leave Samsung behind and I couldn't be happier. The Find X is not only a beauty and innovative, it's a BEAST. Super fast and smooth. Been using since launch and I have not had it lag or stutter once yet. No forcecloses like Samsung. Plays PUBG like butter and doesn't hiccup like my S8 plus and Note 8 did. Charges WAY faster than Samsung and yes fast charging still works when the screen is on, unlike Samsung phones where fast charging stops working when you're using the phone.
Battery lasts all day if you're not playing games constantly.
No waterproofing and no wireless charging, but I honestly don't care about those.
No dual speakers but I also don't care about that either.
1080 not 4k display but it still looks great.
I got the Chinese version and I went through hell to make it as close as possible to what I'm used to but I'm used to it now. My notifications coming in just fine and nova launcher working as usual. My only issue is not being able to display Google play music widget on lockscreen.
Durability is not an issue for either, a good screen protector and a case does it for me. There are motorized cases that cover the whole phone in case you're wondering. I rock it with no case most of the time to be honest and yes people do ask me what phone is that ALL THE TIME especially when the camera pops up.
My advice, yes go for it but get the international version unless you wanna spend a couple days tailoring the phone to your liking.
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Very very nice review... Am speechless my self when I use this beauty beast... Everything and I mean everything's works perfectly... Am using the global version, so no issue at all... Well done Oppo on the Find X...
If you check my post you will know I always change phone and Frank speak this Oppo Find X is the smoothness phone I ever have and solid stable with good camera, I can't said it is better than Samsung flagship but at least it is better quality than LG G6 just no wide angle camera and the dual camera seems a bit waste the second camera only use for DOF.
My previous phone are LG G6, Samsung Galaxy S8+, iPhone 7 Plus and etc.
Can get Pie or not I can't guarantee because you know China phone often don't care those but at least it is upgrade to latest Color OS 5.2.1 now. I am very happy Oppo didn't abandon this phone and update accordingly.
If upgrade to latest Android OS is very important to you, I advise you get pixel 3 XL, Pocofone and etc. Android one phone.
My advise make sure you get a none China edition then it should be very find.
SaltyAf said:
Here's the deal, I had a Note 8 and an S8 plus before this phone. The S8 plus amoled display started showing burn ins within 3 months. The Note 8 was fine but nothing too special. I got tired and bored of Samsung and their lag as well. Yes, the Note 8 did lag for me and freeze here and there. It wasn't a MAJOR issue but it was an issue.
I was hesitant at first but then decided to leave Samsung behind and I couldn't be happier. The Find X is not only a beauty and innovative, it's a BEAST. Super fast and smooth. Been using since launch and I have not had it lag or stutter once yet. No forcecloses like Samsung. Plays PUBG like butter and doesn't hiccup like my S8 plus and Note 8 did. Charges WAY faster than Samsung and yes fast charging still works when the screen is on, unlike Samsung phones where fast charging stops working when you're using the phone.
Battery lasts all day if you're not playing games constantly.
No waterproofing and no wireless charging, but I honestly don't care about those.
No dual speakers but I also don't care about that either.
1080 not 4k display but it still looks great.
I got the Chinese version and I went through hell to make it as close as possible to what I'm used to but I'm used to it now. My notifications coming in just fine and nova launcher working as usual. My only issue is not being able to display Google play music widget on lockscreen.
Durability is not an issue for either, a good screen protector and a case does it for me. There are motorized cases that cover the whole phone in case you're wondering. I rock it with no case most of the time to be honest and yes people do ask me what phone is that ALL THE TIME especially when the camera pops up.
My advice, yes go for it but get the international version unless you wanna spend a couple days tailoring the phone to your liking.
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Hi could you be so kind and share how you managed to get notifications for all apps? Almost everyone I've spoken to states Chinese is restricted to 5 apps only. Do you get notifications in status bar too? Thanks

Anyone else return their S21?

This is the first phone I've ever returned in my life. The battery life is atrocious. There is no way on the unlocked US version to turn off 5G once you're connected to Verizon. With a full bar of 5G at my home with the S21 I was getting 57 megs on the speedtest app. I put the sim in my old phone (Note 10) and on 4G the identical test at the same location got 157 megs (Triple the speed of the crappy 5G).
The pictures felt crappy compared to the Note 10. The S21 was noticeably heavier than the Note 10 also. I looked it up and the larger Note 10 is 3 grams lighter but surprisingly it was very noticeable. Sooo, the Note 10 is made of glass, the S21 is made of plastic and the Note 10 is lighter... The S21 is also a mm thicker than the Note 10 but feels way thicker than that.
The side buttons were moved all to the right side on the S21 so if you're right handed and want to take a screenshot with the buttons, good luck. It's not easy. You have to use a gesture or switch to your left hand.
So to summarize:
1) Note 10 has larger screen and smaller battery but lasts way way way longer and is lighter.
2) The new 5G S21 is getting speeds 1/3 the speeds the Note 10 is getting on 4G at the same location on the same test.
I really wanted to like the S21, but it felt like a real downgrade.
I'm trying to return mine due to the poor camera but I'm yet to hear anything back from Samsung.
Wow. This camera is amazing, after having owned the utterly horrid S20 Ultra , and my battery lasts 1.5+ days with pretty good usage. Sorry you two aren't as happy w yours.
I didn't realize when I bought mine that the US version's bootloader can't be unlocked. Going to be returning it because of that.
OP, I feel your pain.
No SD card slot and I loathe the rounded corner display.
It be a downgrade from my 10+ in many ways.
Samsung, is that all you got?
I traded my S20+ for the S21 base for the $700 credit. I like the smaller screen little easier to use, but the screen definitely is not as nice. I did not miss the edge screen either.
I returned my S21 Ultra and picked up a Note 20 Ultra instead. The lack of SD card and no root yet killed it for me. The camera is a little better at zoom and macro shots on the S21 but that's about it. I got the Note and had the bootloader unlocked the next morning.
did you guys return all the accessories with the phone?
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I returned my S21 Ultra and picked up a Note 20 Ultra instead. The lack of SD card and no root yet killed it for me. The camera is a little better at zoom and macro shots on the S21 but that's about it. I got the Note and had the bootloader unlocked the next morning.
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The phone just came out. How can you expect it to be rooted already?
Root wasn't the main reason but it did add to my decision. I ordered the phone not expecting root. I prefer the display and storage options on the Note and yes root. Plus with rumors of this being the last Note series along with the spen support on the 21 swayed me even more to return it. No regrets here at all.
Weighed up my options after using the S21 for 10 days or so.
Coming from an S10e, at first it felt really weird, that little bit of extra height felt huge!
Starting to warm to it and I really like the adaptive refresh rate, feels so much better than the S10e.
Main concern was the display, Uniformity etc, but the unit I have looks fairly good! took me a little by surprise - Few things I'll eventually get use to, color shift and brightness shift when holding it at certain angles, but thats always going to be the case with a bigger newer OLED Display.
So no, i'll be keeping it and sending the S10e for trade.
Returning my standard S21 due to an intermitent fault.
When people phone me they can't hear me when I answer.
Samsung UK is going to send a replacement once they receive my phone back.
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The phone just came out. How can you expect it to be rooted already?
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Yeah, I expect to be able to root a device I get on day one. Dev friendly manufacturers are out there.
Yes, I returned mine. Also first time ever that I return a phone. The battery life makes it useless... Everything else is awesome I don't know what to buy now... I want a phone with great camera that's isn't bigger. Might end up with an iPhone, but really prefer Android

Question New phone is released. Google Pixel 7 Pro hype is over. Who and or do you think switch to Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra.

Hello members. Is been pass for when Google Pixel 7/7 Pro was released. New phones come out new hype, impressions. This is like every year but interesting to see how people reacts and what think. I'm maybe to old for this but for last few years I keep devices for longer time. Before Google 7 Pro, I used Note 20 Ultra. I was happy with it. But I prefer clean Android and Google features, this is why I switched to Pixel (I'll not switch and I'm not interested for longer time now). So I have questions for you. Who switched to Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra from Pixel 7/7 Pro or oposite from S23 Ultra to Pixel 7 Pro think. Or switched from diferent device, brand phone.
My Pixel 7 Pro has some sort of motherboard or power issue that keeps frying screens. I am on my second Pixel 7 Pro screen replacement and the third is starting to show similar pulsing of brightness and flickering symptoms. I have an S23 Ultra on order for pick up on Friday at my local Best Buy and I can't wait.
I also can't wait to have a modem that's actually worth a damn and more than 24 hours of battery life when I don't use my phone heavily.
I changed my pixel 7 pro for the ultra and I got it yesterday. The pixel 7 pro is a good phone for regular use with a great camera, it's snappy and very fluid and some decent performance while gaming. Battery wasn't that solid. I used it for the past three months since it came out. Since receiving my ultra S23 i can say just WOW. This device is a beast. Camera zoom is incredible even tho the colors are saturated that can be fixed after with may photo app, even Googles own photo app with just auto fix can do the trick. Battery wise it's a tank and the feel of the device is heavy compared to the pixel 7 pro but feel and solid. Software wise is like pixel os or stock android on steroids i really like the widget stacking and other minor things. From the time I got till today I can say that so far it's a Greta super snappy very good camera dm battery beast device. Definitely an upgrade from the pixel 7 pro. Once you change most things to Google like keyboard and all the other things you won't really miss the other device. I would rate it a 9.5/10 and the pixel 7 pro 8/10
Just a quick screen shot of the battery life with just one cycle. That's with one hour of video call, toms of video and web browser, VPN and not battery optimization just plain stock.
I own Pixel 7 Pro. Now waiting for my S23 Ultra to arrived on 24th February.
Am not switching tho. I gonna retire my Aquos R6.
Plan to use my S23 Ultra in stock configuration, locked bootloader, no root. I just gonna debloat using Brevent, blocking ads using private DNS, and managing permissions & net acess using AppOps & Netguard. I still hate Samsung for all features that got nerfed/disabled once you unlock your bootloader. But then, nowadays, it's hard to find brand who release decent phone with 1TB configuration (Apple OS sucks, Xperia price isn't worth it's features & specs. There's Nubia, but it lean heavily towards gamer's need while i prefer a better camera)
So, Pixel 7 Pro for all the mods. And S23 Ultra for Banking (zero headache without root) & Multimedia center.
A bit off topic but I switched from the P6P Google to the S23 U. I say wow about performance Camera and overall the S Pen and so on. Yes the switch was a good choice for me
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My Pixel 7 Pro has some sort of motherboard or power issue that keeps frying screens. I am on my second Pixel 7 Pro screen replacement and the third is starting to show similar pulsing of brightness and flickering symptoms. I have an S23 Ultra on order for pick up on Friday at my local Best Buy and I can't wait.
I also can't wait to have a modem that's actually worth a damn and more than 24 hours of battery life when I don't use my phone heavily.
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Interesting. Just dropped my P7P off at ubreakifix for same issue. they told me they have been seeing lots of this. also happened to order an S23U right after. I will still keep the P7P for my daily though, assuming it stays functioning.
Not really switching as I'm doing like others here have mentioned. I have a green S23 Ultra due to arrive sometime early this week (whenever UPS updates the "label created" status. Should be a fun phone.
Nothing wrong with my Pixel 7 Pro. Probably the one of these least problematic phones I've owned and ranks up there with the Pixel 2xl and the Nexus 5 as my fav Google phones.
Anyhow, I'm using the P7P to have fun with Android 14 DP and betas. Will swap back and forth between it and the S23 Ultra until I swap the P7P for the Pixel Fold or P8P.
Though the Ultra will be the primary, nothing was wrong with the Pixel 7 Pro. I just like have the latest and greatest.
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Interesting. Just dropped my P7P off at ubreakifix for same issue. they told me they have been seeing lots of this. also happened to order an S23U right after. I will still keep the P7P for my daily though, assuming it stays functioning.
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It's gotta be a motherboard or power delivery issue that's shorting the display and slowly killing it because I baby my phones and yet I'm not too sure my screen is going to last until Friday and I just got it like 2 weeks ago. They replaced my first one with a second one and it started acting up two days later. Replaced that one and it's lasted a few weeks but uhh... how many replacements am I going to have to get? Google doesn't have a lemon policy where they say they'll replace the device after so many fails at repairing it but uBreakiFix is going to object for sure because the second screen they replaced was with their own warranty for the repair, not Google footing the bill, as they assumed they just gave me a bad screen and it took me two days to notice.
If you check this thread, you and I are far from alone.
Well that's fun... My screen is defective
Started noticing the other night that when I was on certain sites that I would get streaks down the screen. They moved with the text on the screen and it was worse with white backgrounds. Now when my screen goes on or off, the edges flash green...
forum.xda-developers.com
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It's gotta be a motherboard or power delivery issue that's shorting the display and slowly killing it because I baby my phones and yet I'm not too sure my screen is going to last until Friday and I just got it like 2 weeks ago. They replaced my first one with a second one and it started acting up two days later. Replaced that one and it's lasted a few weeks but uhh... how many replacements am I going to have to get? Google doesn't have a lemon policy where they say they'll replace the device after so many fails at repairing it but uBreakiFix is going to object for sure because the second screen they replaced was with their own warranty for the repair, not Google footing the bill, as they assumed they just gave me a bad screen and it took me two days to notice.
If you check this thread, you and I are far from alone.
Well that's fun... My screen is defective
Started noticing the other night that when I was on certain sites that I would get streaks down the screen. They moved with the text on the screen and it was worse with white backgrounds. Now when my screen goes on or off, the edges flash green...
forum.xda-developers.com
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well he did say he was seeing it a lot. I kind of doubted him, but not so sure now. Im not in a large metro area and pixels arent very popular so if its in large numbers its pretty bad. I went rounds with them trying to get the to just replace the phone as they had done for me in the past, though to be honest I have rarely had any problem, but they were having none of it this time. mine was acting up, lasted about a week when I first noticed and contacted google, then yesterday it went kaput, and took it in. They didnt have a screen, but should be done by tuesday. well see how long it lasts I guess.
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It's gotta be a motherboard or power delivery issue that's shorting the display and slowly killing it because I baby my phones and yet I'm not too sure my screen is going to last until Friday and I just got it like 2 weeks ago. They replaced my first one with a second one and it started acting up two days later. Replaced that one and it's lasted a few weeks but uhh... how many replacements am I going to have to get? Google doesn't have a lemon policy where they say they'll replace the device after so many fails at repairing it but uBreakiFix is going to object for sure because the second screen they replaced was with their own warranty for the repair, not Google footing the bill, as they assumed they just gave me a bad screen and it took me two days to notice.
If you check this thread, you and I are far from alone.
Well that's fun... My screen is defective
Started noticing the other night that when I was on certain sites that I would get streaks down the screen. They moved with the text on the screen and it was worse with white backgrounds. Now when my screen goes on or off, the edges flash green...
forum.xda-developers.com
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Probably the displays. Since implementation of variable refresh rate displays the failure rate seems to have escalated across the board.
Maybe badly coded firmware blowing out drivers in your case. Maybe a design or manufacturing flaw or a hot spot in the phone burning out the drivers. Google should owe up to it instead of whistling through their graveyard.
This is one of the reasons I didn't upgrade from the N10+. I also leave the firmware alone as it runs flawlessly as is. Well over 8k hours on this display, still perfect.
Lots of issues with the Samsung variable refresh rate displays on all their latter flagship models. Also a fair amount of display issues on their early fixed rate AMOLEDs. Whether they are user, hardware, firmware or induced by a combination of factors is unknown. As is the mean display lifetimes of various models. Display roulette
It should also be noted that OLEDs and AMOLEDs displays are completely incompatible with water. How well the OLEDs are or aren't encapsulated effects their lifespan and failure rate. Keep phones away from water and avoid water exposure regardless of the ip rating. High G loading from impacts or direct impacts can damage them; always use a good case. Battery swelling from a failure is another way they can be damaged. Overheating from direct sunlight exposure.
blackhawk said:
Probably the displays. Since implementation of variable refresh rate displays the failure rate seems to have escalated across the board.
Maybe badly coded firmware blowing out drivers in your case. Maybe a design or manufacturing flaw or a hot spot in the phone burning out the drivers. Google should owe up to it instead of whistling through their graveyard.
This is one of the reasons I didn't upgrade from the N10+. I also leave the firmware alone as it runs flawlessly as is. Well over 8k hours on this display, still perfect.
Lots of issues with the Samsung variable refresh rate displays on all their latter flagship models. Also a fair amount of display issues on their early fixed rate AMOLEDs. Whether they are user, hardware, firmware or induced by a combination of factors is unknown. As is the mean display lifetimes of various models. Display roulette
It should also be noted that OLEDs and AMOLEDs displays are completely incompatible with water. How well the OLEDs are or aren't encapsulated effects their lifespan and failure rate. Keep phones away from water and avoid water exposure regardless of the ip rating. High G loading from impacts or direct impacts can damage them; always use a good case. Battery swelling from a failure is another way they can be damaged. Overheating from direct sunlight exposure.
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I've had no issues with any other OLED panel going all the way back to my S-AMOLED Samsung Captivate (first generation Galaxy S for AT&T). That means... Captivate, S3, S4, Note5, iPhone 12 Pro Max, Pixel 3 XL, OnePlus 9... Probably missing one or two in there. I turn off variable refresh because it annoys me so that theoretically should make my display less prone to failure but here we are. I mean the Pixel came out in October... Those other devices were kept a year give or take (12 Pro Max was two years old before I traded it for the Pixel 7 Pro).
I've never even had OLED burn in because I don't use auto brightness, I manually adjust. I take pretty good care of my phones.
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I've had no issues with any other OLED panel going all the way back to my S-AMOLED Samsung Captivate (first generation Galaxy S for AT&T). That means... Captivate, S3, S4, Note5, iPhone 12 Pro Max, Pixel 3 XL, OnePlus 9... Probably missing one or two in there. I turn off variable refresh because it annoys me so that theoretically should make my display less prone to failure but here we are. I mean the Pixel came out in October... Those other devices were kept a year give or take (12 Pro Max was two years old before I traded it for the Pixel 7 Pro).
I've never even had OLED burn in because I don't use auto brightness, I manually adjust. I take pretty good care of my phones.
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OP seems to have a good display track record. iPhones I don't really track at all. I track Samsung's now as a matter of morbid curiosity as their flagships continue disappoint me. The N9 was ok but under powered. Samsung has always been hit or miss. Expandable storage would at least show up after being skipped for one generation. I always blew off models without it for the last 7 years... that will not change. As far as tech support Samsung's is poor. A true pain to deal with.
I have 2 N10+'S, my first AMOLED displays, zero issues. I always use manual brightness control and rarely go beyond 50% and then measured in seconds rather then minutes. Always use dark mode as well with no status bar icons.
Some user's insist on running brightness at or near 100% even indoors. Some don't use cases or use ones with inadequate protection.
What could go wrong?
I love Samsung S22/23 Ultra design. By far most beautiful phone design. But I'd say Google Pixel 7/7 Pro is so damn beautiful and original. Something different from other devices. If you put on the desk with iPhone, Samsung it will looks amazing. I'm happy with Google Pixel 7 Pro and it just works. Yes some will say performance isn't good as Samsung, iPhone or other. I don't care about it, but I really enjoy Pixel features. Samsung has best spam call blocking (Hiya), but Screen call is so well done I use most every time if unknown number calling. Did anyone looked how much system takes of storage out of the box. Interesting 65Gb. It is too much. Google use about 16Gb. Not the best but 4 times less. After all I'm too old for switching devices every year or more then once per year. So I'll use Pixel 7 Pro two or three years.
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OP seems to have a good display track record.
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They don't actually. Every single one of their devices going back to at least the 8 Pro has numerous reports of green lines in the screen *and* OnePlus claiming it was dropped and refusing to fix it despite no other obvious damage to the device.
blackhawk said:
Samsung has always been hit or miss
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The S23U looks way more hit than anything to come before it in many years. I'm genuinely excited to get this phone.
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Expandable storage
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This is never coming back to flagships. I guess you're stuck with your Note for the foreseeable future.
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Some user's insist on running brightness at or near 100% even indoors.
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I use mine around 10-30% most of the time. I don't abuse my displays.
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They don't actually. Every single one of their devices going back to at least the 8 Pro has numerous reports of green lines in the screen *and* OnePlus claiming it was dropped and refusing to fix it despite no other obvious damage to the device.
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I was only following more recent OP models. Not too intently though...
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The S23U looks way more hit than anything to come before it in many years. I'm genuinely excited to get this phone.
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A slight upgrade over the S22U. Same clunky, heavy design with plenty of room for expandable storage. Samsung has failed to bring any real innovation for years now, just adding teasers.
They did considerably clean up the S23U chassis internally though. Much cleaner, too bad it's offset by other poor design choices.
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This is never coming back to flagships. I guess you're stuck with your Note for the foreseeable future.
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That's what Google wants. However eventually if they don't rock it, somebody will. Samsung's flagship phones sales are suffering. Alienating their flagship power users isn't helping their cause.
My expected service life for my N10+'s is 3+ more years. No sweat as they continue to fullfill their mission and save me time and money. My 4G data plan is grandfathered and with 5G being used more now my bandwidth has increased. Cheap, battery friendly and more than enough bandwidth.
The N10+ is just a better balanced phone with a better form factor and display/bezel ratios than any of its successors. It has a better matched performance to available heat sink ratio and the same, often better battery life while weighing 30gms less. Samsung has failed to make their newer flagships effectively more efficient and just keeps slamming in bigger batteries to compensate. Unfortunately the heat sinking area/capacity hasn't increase to keep up with the higher thermal loads. Google Android has damaged functionality and efficiency with its scoped storage... no such thing on Android 9 and 10. By using the N10+'s I avoid the more undesirable Android versions simply by not upgrading/updating. Security simply isn't an issue in actual usage.
Such is the curse of Samsung's ineptness. As a pragmatist I didn't hesitate in exploiting this opportunity by buying a second new discounted N10+... and denting Samsung's pride futher. A stone cold pleasure. It may not be a good plan for some users but it serves me well. If I had to buy a flagship today it still be a new N10+ snap running on Q. Path of least resistance/maximum reward.
I have both. S23 Ultra is great, but Pixel 7 Pro is my daily driver. Photos are amazing.
Not happy that the firmware for the Ultra is over 10 GBs now to flash files. Compared with Googles 2 GB Files.
So I have pixel 7 pro and was thing to switch to U23 ultra, I was leave Samsung 7 years ago when was last note 4 so is little long time.
Right now not sur ei still have mixed feelings.
Pixel has smaller screen zoom about 10%-15% smaller also letter is well.
That big screen and waste it with bigger letters and icons.
Also I can't change samsung pass to Google password manager.
Display on pixel on my eyes looks more luxury then Samsung. But that is just my feeling.
Yes few thing what is issue on pixel there on U23U is work fabulous.
Big plus is battery pixel 7 pro I got around 8h+ on display U23U looks come around 12h+ that I'm impressed.
Also I love it quick setting widgets in pixel and looks without root is not possible to install on Samsung.
So yes also I love design S23U normal corner not kurve to much and spen Thst amazing plus.
So in my case not sure yet if will replace pixel 7 pro or not. All have pro and cons
I switched but I'm a little torn. I love all the little things the Pixel does right. The call screening, voice recognition, lack of bloat....but I needy screen mirroring, texts on my motorcycle (that the pixel never got right) and superior multitasking. I must say the battery life is on another level too but I was fine with it on the pixel. The cameras were fine too.
I switched from 7 Pro because this phone doesn't work in most of the World. In country I stay the most, it didn't have 5G, VoLTE and VoWiFi.

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