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I am considering if I should get hero or not.
Before I make my decision, I would like to know how the mp3 player is like on Hero because I want to replace my mp3 player with the phone.
I've used HTC Diamond before and I was very dissapointed because with the earphone they gave me, the sound quality was horrible (the usb cable) and the battery life on that device is pretty bad I'd say. Lastly, the external speaker was extremely bad compared to other devices such as Iphone 3G or sonny ericsson devices. I guess HTC doesn't make a good speaker? I'm worried since this is another HTC device so could you guys give me your opinion about the mp3 player on Hero?
1. Battery life when using mp3 player
2. sound quality through headphones and the external speaker (quality and volume wise)
3. mp3 player
Thanks in advance!
Only had mine a few days after coming from the HTC Magic so I do compare the 2 quite a lot, but here goes:
1. Battery life on the phone is pretty good for a smart phone and it has a better battery then the Magic, you should be able to easily get a full days use while listening to say 3-4 hours of music.
2. Firstly if you plan to use this as your MP3 player then I would ditch the supplied headphones and invest in a decent pair. This usually applies to all headphones that are bundled with devices though. The headphones you get with it are ok, but sound a bit tinny and if you like your music clear and bassy like me then you'll want a better pair. Some people don't like the sound the Hero outputs through the headphones, again with a decent pair I have to say I am pretty impressed and more then pleased. Volume is good through the headphones.
I don't usually play music through the speakers as I'm not one of those annoying little twats that sits on the bus playing his music for the whole world to hear but the sound quality is ok through the speakers. It loses quality obviously the more you turn it up and depending what your playing. Basically it's fine for a phone but you wouldn't want to play music to a group of friends for too long through the speaker.
3. The default MP3 player in my opinion is fine, does the job well enough though there is no equaliser. Some people downloads different players from the market but I personally think the installed one is more then adequate.
Thanks for the quick and descriptive response!
I'm not sure if Hero is the phone I'm looking for.
The new Android OS sure does look sleek and refreshing.
Anybody know a good smartphone that comes with:
1. a nice mp3 player
2. good battery life (2-3 days at least with more than average usage)
3. nice and many applications
4. and 3.5mm headphone jack
I have been researching so much but I can't find the right one for me.
-Iphone's great but it seems too common around me.
-palm pre has a very short battery life I hear?
-Sonny Erricson's X1.. kind of outdated
I'm quite excited to see the new xperia.
I think Erricson makes great devices (mp3 player, external speaker, long lasting battery and etc). But does anybody know if the device comes with dual touch?
It is a bit off topic but I need help lol.
From experience of multiple smartphones, to get 2-3 days above average use you are probably going to have to get a phone which has a higher capacity battery available, but then these are usually 3rd party and require a different back to cope with the increased battery size. I tend to get about 2 days usage but a lot depends on how strong a data connection I have.
In practice I have used many WinMo phones and the Hero. Both have good MP3 players available with my current favourites being Nitrogen for WinMo and Meridian for Android.
Nokia E52 has small form factor and good mp3-player, and WAY better battery life than Iphone, any htc or winmobile
From playing around with my Xperia I noticed that it had a great looking music player, so I thought I'd give it a proper spin today. I've been on the lookout for something to replace my old Creative Zen for a while and I must say, I'm very impressed.
I wouldn't call myself a full-blown audiophile but I'm definitely quite fussy about sound quality. I was initially quite surprised at how good the Xperia S sounded, but didn't quite believe it at first because I've never had a good experience with mobile phone audio. However, having just tested it against my Zen, I can confirm that it sounds very good indeed.
There is perhaps slightly more hiss on the Xperia (only audible at high volumes), but the bass in particular sounds a lot deeper and more detailed, and I'm also starting to notice other little details of the music in the background - always a sign of a good audio player.
Better still, it supports gapless playback, which is something that very few media players seem to have.
Anyone else using their Xperia for music?
I really think they missed a trick though. The should of supplied the phones with decent headphones like they use to.
Malner27 said:
I really think they missed a trick though. The should of supplied the phones with decent headphones like they use to.
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By the time they release their LiveSound they'll properly add it to their latest shipments
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I think it's because the eq. curve is quite flat(so you can hear more detail, because all frequencies have the same intensity), and the impedance is high (so less level pressure and more dinamic)
Remember sony is one of the best home audio constructor
Which independance do you mean?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1552358&page=3&highlight=audio
See this thread, I made a big post on the last page there.
i got the live sound smart headset with xperia s.... i bought mine the first week the phone was released in the UK.
How does the battery do when playing MP3? The reason I've never really used my phone for music is because the battery already struggles to make it through the day, so playing MP3s through it as well just makes things worse.
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How does the battery do when playing MP3? The reason I've never really used my phone for music is because the battery already struggles to make it through the day, so playing MP3s through it as well just makes things worse.
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Not a big hit, really! The big hit comes from me fiddling with the display all the time to switch tracks
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How does the battery do when playing MP3? The reason I've never really used my phone for music is because the battery already struggles to make it through the day, so playing MP3s through it as well just makes things worse.
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Depends, if you stress the amp with high impedance headphones you'll have battery issues, but normal buds it wont be a problem.
The sound quality compared to my Cowon i5 mp3 player is very dull!
Cowon has a nice sound output, but telling it is VERY dull is a bit over the top ...
sony devices always have a clear output also when there is a lot of bass the higher tones do not get lost.
Its not over the top, I tell it how I hear it.
Tried it with cheap-ish Klipsch in ear buds, over ear Sennheiser HD 25-1 II & Grado SR60.
I wanted the phone to perform I have no reason not to but unfortunately it doesn't compare.
I have a set of PXC 250-II with noise reduction ( bass is enhanced ) the phones sounds very good...
better then may desire ?
Yes.
Better then an Ithingy ...
Yes.
I do suffer bad battery life .
dgattenb said:
I have a set of PXC 250-II with noise reduction ( bass is enhanced ) the phones sounds very good...
better then may desire ?
Yes.
Better then an Ithingy ...
Yes.
I do suffer bad battery life .
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Most likely the drain is caused by the EQ.
Pity most headphones only come with specialised controllers for iSomething and not Android devices
I dont think the drain is the EQ. I've tested it with three players and its pretty clear that the drain is the headphones.
This is a mobile phone, most people will be using Earphones or small consumer headphones. As such the amplifier in the phone is designed to power such things. If you plug in larger headphones which take far more power to operate(4mm driver at 150ohm vs 40mm driver at 300Ohm!) you will see a battery drain.
I use CX-300II's when I'm out and about and they're a great mix of value/sound quality/power consumption. Worth checking out.
I've had the cx300 II's. While they sound good they broke fairly quick. I think after about 5 months use or so. Problem was with the cable.
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I've had the cx300 II's. While they sound good they broke fairly quick. I think after about 5 months use or so. Problem was with the cable.
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3rd set, so yeah. But they've lasted longer than any other pair I have used. The cable is thinner than most but far stronger than many other brands.
I have noticed some definite battery drainage when using the MP3 player, but definitely nowhere near as fast as when doing something with the screen.
Having said that, the music player is so pretty I keep finding myself fiddling around with it, and I'm also experimenting a lot with EQs.
I have no doubt a Cowon player does sound better. I may actually buy one if I fill up my phone. But the Xperia still sounds a lot better than my old Creative Zen, and that until recently still managed to beat any other MP3 playing device I'd listened to, including the iPhone 4S.
I dont think its a very good music player. Before i get a text the music will skip. Also sometimes when the phone is playing music and asleep, when i go back in a open an app the player will skip. Not the best
Hi there,
I'm about (prolly) to buy a LG G2 in the next incomming days.
I was wondering what you guys were thinking about the Sound Quality of the G2, whichever variant you got, and how loud/quiet you think it is, from headphones, earpiece, or external speaker.
Lets hear your thoughts !
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Hi there,
I'm about (prolly) to buy a LG G2 in the next incomming days.
I was wondering what you guys were thinking about the Sound Quality of the G2, whichever variant you got, and how loud/quiet you think it is, from headphones, earpiece, or external speaker.
Lets hear your thoughts !
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I'l say this, the G2 uses aptX, so I went to go find an aptX compatible headset. I purchased the LG HBS730 bt stereo headset... It'll be hard to top that in my mind.
The audio quality is really good. But then I rooted and installed viper4android and now, my audio is easily much better than on my s4
Stock, untweaked, the loudspeakers are adequate for only typical indoor (office/home) use, IMO. I was on a speakerphone call outside and found the speaker had too little volume to compete against the urban background noise (trucks and such passing by at idle speeds). I opted to put in my headphones instead.
Ringers and notifications seemed to be adequate, again, for typical office and domestic settings. No way could I hear them driving down the highway with the windows down.
After installing Malladus, which includes volume tweaks, the notifications are significantly louder such that I've been able to set those sliders at mid position for my daily needs. The alarm has no problem waking me in the morning.
As far as line out and BT A2DP quality, I'd say it's very good but not quite up to the hype. Caveat, I have not yet tried any 24/192 source material. I mostly listen to 320k or better MP3 and FLAC music thru Neutron. For BT, it streams thru a Clarion FZ501 head unit. The headphone out drives a pair of Shure SE535s with Head-Fi-derived EQ tweaks. No outboard DAC or amp. I hate carrying more than absolutely necessary.
My research has concluded that Viper and Neutron are mutually exclusive and most head-fi'ers seem to prefer Neutron. I haven't tried Viper. I may one day, but haven't yet heard heard an informed, compelling argument to switch.
Line-out audio performance was in my Top-3 for priorities. I'm not disappointed or blown away. It's more than adequate for a quality mobile audio source, IMO.
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Stock, untweaked, the loudspeakers are adequate for only typical indoor (office/home) use, IMO. I was on a speakerphone call outside and found the speaker had too little volume to compete against the urban background noise (trucks and such passing by at idle speeds). I opted to put in my headphones instead.
Ringers and notifications seemed to be adequate, again, for typical office and domestic settings. No way could I hear them driving down the highway with the windows down.
After installing Malladus, which includes volume tweaks, the notifications are significantly louder such that I've been able to set those sliders at mid position for my daily needs. The alarm has no problem waking me in the morning.
As far as line out and BT A2DP quality, I'd say it's very good but not quite up to the hype. Caveat, I have not yet tried any 24/192 source material. I mostly listen to 320k or better MP3 and FLAC music thru Neutron. For BT, it streams thru a Clarion FZ501 head unit. The headphone out drives a pair of Shure SE535s with Head-Fi-derived EQ tweaks. No outboard DAC or amp. I hate carrying more than absolutely necessary.
My research has concluded that Viper and Neutron are mutually exclusive and most head-fi'ers seem to prefer Neutron. I haven't tried Viper. I may one day, but haven't yet heard heard an informed, compelling argument to switch.
Line-out audio performance was in my Top-3 for priorities. I'm not disappointed or blown away. It's more than adequate for a quality mobile audio source, IMO.
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Sounds good.
I've been using viper since ages now, and it got really the thing that other eq/audio mods don't have, but I couldn't tell you what it is.
You should give it a go sometimes.
Do you find the headphones loud enough?
Sounds really good also went ahead and installed Viper4Android to tweak up the sound my favorite EQ/Sound mod of them all.
On my Jaybirds BlueBuds X (bluetooth) they sound great!
With malladus ROM now my headphones are almost uncomfortable at max vol. I use vmoda crossfades can't beat cans ?
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With malladus ROM now my headphones are almost uncomfortable at max vol. I use vmoda crossfades can't beat cans ?
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Hmm, sounds good if it comes too loud. Since I just use in ear headphones, it might be loud enough at the end !
I have used this volume boost mod to improve the audio output levels on the g2:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2482750
I prefer to keep things stock as possible (neutral sounding) as far as audio signal processing is concerned when listening to my audio.
I run sennheiser ie-80 in-ears currently (16 ohms) and they pair really well with the dac in this phone.
The stock music player is quite capable on this phone, and Neutron has seen minimal use in the time I've had it, although it is installed.
I owned the note 3 for a week before returning it for the lg g2.
I came from the Samsung note 2 before that which I also initially bought for the audio capabilities and ended up using the same volume boosting technique for the same reasons, the g2 audio does surpass the note 2 audio quality with the stock lg audio player, voume boost mod, and proper audio source files.
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Sounds good.
I've been using viper since ages now, and it got really the thing that other eq/audio mods don't have, but I couldn't tell you what it is.
You should give it a go sometimes.
Do you find the headphones loud enough?
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Yes. I seldom run more than about 70%, but most IEMs aren't hard to drive.
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I have used the volume boost mod here to improve the audio output levels on the g2: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2482750
I prefer to keep things as stock as possible as far as audio signal processing is concerned in terms of this party applications.
The stock music player is quite capable on this phone, and Neutron has seen minimal use in the time I've had it, although it is installed.
I owned the note 3 for a week before returning it for the lg g2.
I came from the Samsung note 2 before that which I also initially bought for the audio capabilities and ended up using the same volume boosting technique for the same reasons, the g2 audio does surpass the note 2 audio quality with the stock lg audio player, voume boost mod, and proper audio source files.
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i agree the stock sounds good. It just doesn't offer the EQ quality I want.
Can u guys confirm which DAC carries?
Read it´s the latest Wolfson WM5110 while also read it carries the Qualcomm WCD9320.
Also would like to know your impressions on sound quality when listening music with earphones.
Hey guys!
So i just bought a P20 lite, switched from Iphone 6 to this new phone and I love it.
But i figured out the headphones volume (with the same headphones) is just really really really low, i tought something is wrong with my Phone, but i've tried out a few in the Retail Store, and they are the same low volume as mine. Is there any way to make it louder without Rooting? I saw a few videos on YouTube that you can go into an EngineeringMode, but it only works with the MediaTek phones.
Any ideas?
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Hey guys!
So i just bought a P20 lite, switched from Iphone 6 to this new phone and I love it.
But i figured out the headphones volume (with the same headphones) is just really really really low, i tought something is wrong with my Phone, but i've tried out a few in the Retail Store, and they are the same low volume as mine. Is there any way to make it louder without Rooting? I saw a few videos on YouTube that you can go into an EngineeringMode, but it only works with the MediaTek phones.
Any ideas?
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Don't call me names, but have you tried the obvious of choosing "Yes" when a prompt saying "Raise volume above..." When increasing the sound via volume buttons?
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Don't call me names, but have you tried the obvious of choosing "Yes" when a prompt saying "Raise volume above..." When increasing the sound via volume buttons?
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Yeah of course, it seems to be a software limitation i think. But its kinda stupid.
Where did you buy the phone?
I've been using mine and the sound outputs perfectly, even with the headphones provided. I'm able to listen to music while commuting and hearing properly while driving with my windows down
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Where did you buy the phone?
I've been using mine and the sound outputs perfectly, even with the headphones provided. I'm able to listen to music while commuting and hearing properly while driving with my windows down
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Well i bought at UPC Hungary (ISP) so its coming from a verified supplier, with Huawei warranty, now i went to huawei to fix my phone, becuase i bought a BT headphone, and it was lagging while listening to music (Music was stoping for 1-2 sec, then it was playing fast forward for a few) so right now im just waiting
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Well i bought at UPC Hungary (ISP) so its coming from a verified supplier, with Huawei warranty, now i went to huawei to fix my phone, becuase i bought a BT headphone, and it was lagging while listening to music (Music was stoping for 1-2 sec, then it was playing fast forward for a few) so right now im just waiting
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Let's hope for the best .
Hi,
I have the same "issue" with mine. Also switched from i6 and I've used OnePlus 3T as well and both of them were louder and the quality was much better than P20 lite.
Do you have any solution? (bought it from Vodafone Hungary)
You are comparing a mid-range phone with an apple flagship phone definitely the p20 lite will be a bit lower than the iphone even with high end earphones its not gonna sound like a flagship one
it has software limitation...i can increase sound by 200 and maybe 300% (did it in P8) but my phone not rooted, and i listing music through bt headsets
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You are comparing a mid-range phone with an apple flagship phone definitely the p20 lite will be a bit lower than the iphone even with high end earphones its not gonna sound like a flagship one
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Iphone 6 is not even close to a flagship phone, really old, so the comparison is i think not one sided.
I to was not happy with the volume on the P20 lite, but as pointed out, it is at a Perfect Pitch to enable you to Still listen to what is going on around you(well done Huawei), which is a very good safety precaution. The quality of the sound is very good, I can only put it down to the type and make of headphones you are using, travelling on the London tube where there is a lot of noise I prefer the Denon exercise freak in-ear (wireless), these headphones also have their own volume that block out everything, including the tube, perfect for the surroundings. But for normal everyday use I prefer wired overhead B&O h6 headphones for the quality, and being able to hear surrounding sounds is for me a must(safety is a hi feature in my life). Try Currys PC World they have a good range of headphones that are set up for testing and I'm sure you will find a set that meet your needs.
Hi, I bought the nord 2 a few days ago, it's a wonderful phone but I have a problem.
The bluetooth audio quality is horrible. I don't know if it's only on my device , i have tried everything, the stock Dirac hd sound does not support bluetooth devices so the sound is flat. Also it seems like it's playing music on low bit rate. I have switched from aac to sbc there's a slight difference but still it sucks. Also changing some settings in developer settings did nothing.
I have Huawei Freebuds 4I and on every other device the sound is amazing but on the nord it's awful.
Currently I'm using wavelet eq but still the music is playing at a low bit rate. I don't wanna root my phone for viper4android so is there any other solution to this?
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Hi, I bought the nord 2 a few days ago, it's a wonderful phone but I have a problem.
The bluetooth audio quality is horrible. I don't know if it's only on my device , i have tried everything, the stock Dirac hd sound does not support bluetooth devices so the sound is flat. Also it seems like it's playing music on low bit rate. I have switched from aac to sbc there's a slight difference but still it sucks. Also changing some settings in developer settings did nothing.
I have Huawei Freebuds 4I and on every other device the sound is amazing but on the nord it's awful.
Currently I'm using wavelet eq but still the music is playing at a low bit rate. I don't wanna root my phone for viper4android so is there any other solution to this?
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One plus Nord 2 is a budget phone yet not cheaper than other budget phones, yet they give a low-quality device like this. Try listening in a different Bluetooth headset.
No issue here, I have samsung galaxy buds+ TWS (aac mode) and a Marshall Mid (aptx mode) and bluetooth quality is perfect in both cases.
And for the lack of Dirac support in bluetooth mode I use the app "Poweramp Equalizer" to get some more bass in my headset
For music you can try jethdaudio player. It is extremely good.
I don't know what you are talking about I am using Realme Buds Wireless 2 on my Nord 2 and it sounds amazing and I mean it since I am picky about the audio quality with negligible delay like mine cost about 1/3rd of yours so it's probably a compability issue LDAC and AAC both work great on nord 2 ofc LDAC sounds better at the cost of more battery usage....
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I don't know what you are talking about I am using Realme Buds Wireless 2 on my Nord 2 and it sounds amazing and I mean it since I am picky about the audio quality with negligible delay like mine cost about 1/3rd of yours so it's probably a compability issue LDAC and AAC both work great on nord 2 ofc LDAC sounds better at the cost of more battery usage....
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So far i still haven't found a solution, tried a different pair of earbuds (qcy) and the problem still remains.
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So far i still haven't found a solution, tried a different pair of earbuds (qcy) and the problem still remains.
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Maybe a faulty piece really should just visit a service centre with all those headsets and see if it can be fixed if possible test out some more headsets by asking from your friends. Also check the settings of the music app you are using it's unlikely but still possible that it's set on low
Can't get it replaced.. Cracked the screen 5 minutes after I took the phone out of the box
Most folks dont know this, but bluetooth is a modern NAME for 'A' software version of hardware based tech capable of transmitting 240v AC through the air.
Tunguska anyone? That was the test, and the origional copywright is owned by TESLA.
Bluetooth, was designed to do the same, it's designed for AC current, explaining why bluetooth digital audio is the WORST sound ever invented.
Blutooth sounds so crap due to the following:
1: The inventors of digital audio decided to remove EVERY frequency the human ear cant hear. (according to who?)
2: They are now removing the lower base frequencies that we COULD hear, if we had say speaker's like my set of BW speaker's used by the BBC in the 60's and 70's, which can produce EVERY frequency. To make these speakers today is £14.000 PER speaker.
3: By removing all lower frequencies, they removed what is known in music, as the BODY of sound. They started this with digital techno, aka goa trance. I stopped buying musical digital instruments just because of this. If you take a 90's version of say 'Rising High's Church of Extacy' ( The tune that officially killed rock and roll due to it's pure analogue sound quality, hardness, and the deepest bass ) then play it through bluetooth, all you hear is tsstsstsstss, because the tweaters you think are great sounding speakers literally cant play anything under the highhat, without ECHO to fake the BASS.
If it's audio QUALITY you want, DROP bluetooth. Simple.
Another note:
As a dj of over 40 years in the undergound dance music scene, the one thing I cant understand is why I now have no CHOICE but to buy headphones for djing with a bluetooth mic built in! This allows whoever is spying on what we SAY to record my tune or live mix before I leave the gig, and claim it as their own. Try buying decent ANALOGUE headfones for djing.
Final note.
Nfc: the modern day verion of blutooth. Interfere's with bluetooth audio in that the AC current also has it's own magnetic field, which can, like binaural beats, interfere with bluetooth. Most fones use bluetooth AND Nfc. nae luck.
I personnaly know the best hacker in Scotland. 12 letters after his name in computer sciences...! He wrote the bluetooth app the gov called tap n trace, and he sold it to them for £30.000, they added Nfc (Near field Communication) and got most people in the world to install it in their fone. NIce one Gi88's!
Bluetooth... did you bite?
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So far i still haven't found a solution, tried a different pair of earbuds (qcy) and the problem still remains.
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I am using my Sony WH-1000XM3 and it supports LDAC. The audio quality is great with support for equaliser. The only way to get LDAC was change the mode from connection stability to sound quality mode in sony headphone app. By default, it supports SBC. Pls check your headphone's app and also check if your headphone supports relevant codec.hope this helps.
I had a similar issue with my Nord 2 and my Libratone Too BT speaker, sound was horrible, like an old cassette player. The speaker only supports the SBC codec, I think.
I was able to fix the sound quality by enabling developer options and switching to AVRCP 1.6 and MAP 1.4 there.
Update A.16 fixes Bluetooth audio.
the problem is just with the freebuds 4i, but I don't understand why..
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Update A.16 fixes Bluetooth audio.
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