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I'm sure that some of us are runners who chose to get the Gear S so that we don't need to carry a smartphone when we go for a run. I've observed that there is some confusion regarding the fitness/running apps that are available for the Gear S. For example, the Samsung S Health app has a "running" mode that allows you to use the built-in GPS (outdoors) and built-in HR sensor on the Gear S while it's on standalone mode. But, this app won't track your pace when you're running indoor on a treadmill.
The Nike+ app can also use the built-in GPS to provide speed/distance information. The Nike+ app seems to be the only app so far that uses the built-in sensor found in the Gear S to estimate your speed when you're on a treadmill. I can't seem to find a way to calibrate this function. Also, I can't seem to find a way to get the Nike+ app to use the built-in HR monitor when I'm running.
Other apps like MapMyRun and Endomondo are simply "companion" apps that require that you run the app on the phone and the Gear S simply becomes an extension of the screen. Users who expect these apps to run in standalone mode (not paired to phone) will be disappointed.
Why can't we get a standalone running app for the Gear S that uses the built-in GPS (outdoor), the built-in sensor to track pace when you're running on a treadmill, and use the built-in HR sensor? Neither the S Health nor the Nike+ does all of that together.
I have the same question, but I'm trying to Google the resolution since I haven't had any luck with folks responding on this forum. I need to find a user forum for the Gear watch that's friendly do doors like me.
gman901 said:
I have the same question, but I'm trying to Google the resolution since I haven't had any luck with folks responding on this forum. I need to find a user forum for the Gear watch that's friendly do doors like me.
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Not sure what you mean, but the OP is more of a statement and not a question. There is no app that does it all. They all have their positives and negatives.
its Sad that theres no running app development. please some tizen dev port any standalone running app
Endomondo has launched standalone app dedicated only for Sony smartwatch ... any hope to port this app to Gear S ?????
Ooops meant to post this in the Trackwatch thread... but liking the Nike+ app as a stand alone recorder...
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Endomondo has launched standalone app dedicated only for Sony smartwatch ... any hope to port this app to Gear S ?????
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I'd love this too, are then any awesome devs out there that could make this happen?
Well, the only way that I found was to move Android port, so I can use some apps like My trails. But as it's under development, it has a lot of bugs and some sensors aren't working by now but will do on a close future (hope so) like heart rate monitor and light sensor, but it's still better than Tizen in my opinion.
Samsung no longer will sync to Nike after a run since Nike update. Disappointing
jabekitten said:
Samsung no longer will sync to Nike after a run since Nike update. Disappointing
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That's messed up. They created such a nice watch with Samsung Milk + Nike Running. Now they consciously destroyed all of this beautiful features ! WHY WHY WHY?
Hi!
Is there another app just like Watch Styler for fit? I can not find it in the App Store or on the Internet.
To bad I can not make apps myself, I just started with Tasker and that in its self is hard,lol.
Maybe one of you smart ones will make an app for me like Watch Styler (just with more clocks to choose from) and I will provide Dutch manuals for your apps in the app store? Seems fair enough?
Greetings, Bammmbi
Another like the original ?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.omnicns.android.gearfit.watchstyler
Thanks for your reply.
No, I have that one, but I can't find other apps that can do the same and more for my Samsung Gear Fit.
The Watch Styer that you gave me in the link is nice, but limited in clock style choice. I would love to be able to chose from more digital and analoge clocks, styles, positioning and such. More freedom and also more colour choice. I wouldeven pay for an app like that.
The app store is full of apps for other smartwatches and such but not for my Samsung Gear Fit, such a shame.
Regards, Bammmbi
@Bammmbi If you find someone who can do this, please point them to my project, I would like to have this capability in my app. I thought about adding this functionality, but it will be down the road in my roadmap as Im working on other key features
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gear-fit/themes-apps/openfit-source-gear-fit-application-t3005697
Hi Jarredic.
Since you're asking me thissuppose.. this means that there is no other app like Watch Styler. At least not know to you... Did you ask the maker of Watch Styler if you could use his script? Its a free app.
If you ever come to making it yourself, I'll provide the Dutch version for your app, if you want to.
P. S.
If I will find someone I will redirect them to you. It's awesome, your app. I'm still struggling with Tasker variables, hahaha.
Hi,
before I had a pebble time steel and now with the amazfit bip, custom apps are missing to me a lot. For exemple, "this button" app allowed me to control my domotique box through IFTTT applets with my watch. An app to send recorded sms is also missing. And a lot of other apps...
Do you think there is any way to create custom apps that could be install like for custom watchfaces for the bip?
Thanks.
custom app is great idea
I would also appreciated some kind of customization apart of watchfaces. In worst case I'ld like to replace e.g. compass to something more useful (calendar, HTPP call via phone, display some reasonable data, whatever...). So does anybody have an idea how to create custom ROM or some hack?
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Hi,
before I had a pebble time steel and now with the amazfit bip, custom apps are missing to me a lot. For exemple, "this button" app allowed me to control my domotique box through IFTTT applets with my watch. An app to send recorded sms is also missing. And a lot of other apps...
Do you think there is any way to create custom apps that could be install like for custom watchfaces for the bip?
Thanks.
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WatchDroid works with Amazfit Bip ? Thanks
kwet said:
WatchDroid works with Amazfit Bip ? Thanks
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No, it doesn't. Pace uses Android while Bip uses a proprietary OS.
So unless Huami releases a SDK to develop apps, there is no easy way. The only option is to hack and find out how to side load apps and mod the existing ones, if there is a way to side load (free space, support in the OS for new apps, etc).
It would be great if there would be shortcuts app. It could have 4 named buttons on screen and you would configure what action they would invoke on phone.
For now i use Amazfit tools and double click on button to invoke at least player play/pause.
Hi there,
i'm trying to build a companion app similar to watchdroid with wich i can send data to the watch and display them on a widget/springboard.
In my case i wan't to have my blood glucose level on my watch as i was used to with my android wear watch.
I have a simply app made with taske wich can read out a json from my nightscout site. This sadly work only via wifi.
Main problem is the bluetooth comunication. i've tried so many simply bluetooth apps and librarys via sideload. I can't even tell how many. Non of them worked out. Only some worked in watch to phone direction but not the other - desired - way. In almost every case, my phone could'nt even find the watch.
But since watch droid got it working, i know there is a way.
There is another way to get data to the watch: the notification system. Since i also could'nt get the notification listener to work on the watch, it is also not a starting point for me.
Last chance i see is automizing watchdroid and sending a file at a regulary scedule and reading this from the widget.
For the moment i just use Notify and fitness cause the Phone notification with my glucose level is persistent and the huami app ignores persistent notifications.
But get a new notification with my glucose level every 5 Minutes. On the phone the notification gets just updated, on the watch i get a new one. Over the day the notification stack gets fuller and fuller...
I'm not talking about geting this into a watchface, thats the next step after the next hundreds of steps.
Any help and tipps are welcome.
When a notification is dismissed on the phone, it should dismiss on the watch.
If you have the source to this app, you could make it dismiss it's notification and send a new one.
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Hi there,
i'm trying to build a companion app similar to watchdroid with wich i can send data to the watch and display them on a widget/springboard.
In my case i wan't to have my blood glucose level on my watch as i was used to with my android wear watch.
I have a simply app made with taske wich can read out a json from my nightscout site. This sadly work only via wifi.
Main problem is the bluetooth comunication. i've tried so many simply bluetooth apps and librarys via sideload. I can't even tell how many. Non of them worked out. Only some worked in watch to phone direction but not the other - desired - way. In almost every case, my phone could'nt even find the watch.
But since watch droid got it working, i know there is a way.
There is another way to get data to the watch: the notification system. Since i also could'nt get the notification listener to work on the watch, it is also not a starting point for me.
Last chance i see is automizing watchdroid and sending a file at a regulary scedule and reading this from the widget.
For the moment i just use Notify and fitness cause the Phone notification with my glucose level is persistent and the huami app ignores persistent notifications.
But get a new notification with my glucose level every 5 Minutes. On the phone the notification gets just updated, on the watch i get a new one. Over the day the notification stack gets fuller and fuller...
I'm not talking about geting this into a watchface, thats the next step after the next hundreds of steps.
Any help and tipps are welcome.
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Hello,
what application do you use to get a notification every 5 minutes ??? you use a FreeStyle Free blood glucose sensor ??? I will be very happy to read you to know if you succeeded !!!
astrarico said:
Hello,
what application do you use to get a notification every 5 minutes ??? you use a FreeStyle Free blood glucose sensor ??? I will be very happy to read you to know if you succeeded !!!
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Yes, it's freestyle libre with ambrosia blucon nightrider for nfc readout and transmission every 5 min. The app i use is xdrip+.
The notification is persistent to keep the data collector service running, to show the value on the notificatiin icon even on the aod of samsungs.
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Yes, it's freestyle libre with ambrosia blucon nightrider for nfc readout and transmission every 5 min. The app i use is xdrip+.
The notification is persistent to keep the data collector service running, to show the value on the notificatiin icon even on the aod of samsungs.
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ah yes anyway, the price of "ambrosia blucon nightrider" as we say at home "it stings the eyes". before you give me the answer I was wondering how you did to get back the FreeStyle scan, so I understand. on the other hand to use the nightscout, it is a little the course of the fighter ... a lot of account to create. damage that the app glimp or other does not regroup suddenly!
It's currently my intention to build a framework for both phone and watch to allow apps to get data from the internet at some point in the next few months. I'm stuck with work to do at the moment so don't have any time to put towards projects (especially not big ones like that) but in the future - probably
I'd ideally also like to get Android Wear (not Wear OS, it's an old version) working too, to allow at least some companion apps to function (Sleep as Android, Keep etc.). I've got the framework working fine (which does improve app compatibility, but no communication still severely limits what they can do), but the two way Bluetooth connection throws an error that I cannot find any documentation about, so it's on hold for now until I have sufficient time to investigate properly
This would be awesome to have a framework like this. In my case i would'nt even need real internet access, due to the web service is localy provided by the xdrip app. But this would open so many things and possible options to code. Let me know if i could help. I'm also short in time but willing to help.
Getting Android wear working on the pace/stratos would also be great. I tried out sideloading the micro apk for wear of xdrip+ and it worked out better than expected. No crashes from the app and even the integrated watchfaces were selectable. Of course there were no data shown and no low power watchface.
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Getting Android wear working on the pace/stratos would also be great. I tried out sideloading the micro apk for wear of xdrip+ and it worked out better than expected. No crashes from the app and even the integrated watchfaces were selectable. Of course there were no data shown and no low power watchface.
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It might actually be possible to build a newer version of Android, source code exists for the CPU and MIPS sources exist all the way up to Oreo, but again that would take time I don't have (and space for that matter)
Just wanted to let you know, that thanks to edotassi i have a working widget with my blood glucose values on my Stratos.
https://github.com/edotassi/AmazMod
https://github.com/edotassi/AmazModService
Now i'm fine tuning the widget and maybe also the nightscout parts of amazmod. But i'm still learning.
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Just wanted to let you know, that thanks to edotassi i have a working widget with my blood glucose values on my Stratos.
Now i'm fine tuning the widget and maybe also the nightscout parts of amazmod. But i'm still learning.
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Hi, great news. Will this work on Amazfit BIP ?
Since the Bip does not rely on the AmazFit Watch app, i'd say no.
Can you show on the photo the indications of the xdrip on the watch? how it works.
Hi, i'm now trying to integrate quinnys library into xDrip, to make thinks easy and to allow 2 way communication.
Since xDrip is a really big and complex project + i'm a noop i'm having trouble with providing a switch in the menus and finding the right place to start the service from. Maybe someone can help me out again.
I am also really interest of amazfit bit. I saw now, xdrip have one section called "amazfit synk service" look like can connect with this kind of phones. Are there news to see the value on the display?
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I am also really interest of amazfit bit. I saw now, xdrip have one section called "amazfit synk service" look like can connect with this kind of phones. Are there news to see the value on the display?
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None of this will work with the Bip, it's too limited
Is there any way to implement the clockscreen or widget from Glimp instead of XDrip on the Stratosphere. I'm getting better use from Glimp and MiaoMiao.
Klaus3d said:
Just wanted to let you know, that thanks to edotassi i have a working widget with my blood glucose values on my Stratos.
https://github.com/edotassi/AmazMod
https://github.com/edotassi/AmazModService
Now i'm fine tuning the widget and maybe also the nightscout parts of amazmod. But i'm still learning.
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You should ask this the devs of glimp.
Hi all,
I have developed an application for a Wear OS, intended for a robust continuous atrial fibrillation (arrhythmia) and heart rate monitoring, which uses an optical sensor (green light) in the bottom of the watch. I'm currently limited to Fossil Gen 5 watch since my Samsung Galaxy Watch 4 won't give software access to its optical sensor.
Having said that, would anybody here like to test the app on their watches? It still needs to be improved and optimized, therefore, feedback would be appreciated. Also, it would run on other watches, however, in that case I would need to know an address of an optical sensor (Fossil Gen5 PPG sensor is 65572) so I could update the app.
I'd like to publish it in Google Play sometime later, have never done it before, it looks quite tricky, however, I filled most of the things there already.
Update: AFib monitor Google Play link
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Hi all,
I have developed an application for a Wear OS, intended for a robust continuous atrial fibrillation (arrhythmia) and heart rate monitoring, which uses an optical sensor (green light) in the bottom of the watch. I'm currently limited to Fossil Gen 5 watch since my Samsung Galaxy Watch 4 won't give software access to its optical sensor.
Having said that, would anybody here like to test the app on their watches? It still needs to be improved and optimized, therefore, feedback would be appreciated. Also, it would run on other watches, however, in that case I would need to know an address of an optical sensor (Fossil Gen5 PPG sensor is 65572) so I could update the app.
I'd like to publish it in Google Play sometime later, have never done it before, it looks quite tricky, however, I filled most of the things there already.
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Hi, I have tried your app, it's great that you are doing this.
I have tested it on Ticwatch Pro 3 GPS, it works correctly, shows heart rate and cardiogram for arrhythmias.
When I started the app for the first time it did not ask me to enable sensor permissions nor did it alert me that it did not have the permission enabled when I started monitoring. I activated them manually and it worked as expected.
About the PPG sensor address for TWP3 I don't know which one it is, I guess it is the same as the Fossil Gen5, because it works.
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Hi, I have tried your app, it's great that you are doing this.
I have tested it on Ticwatch Pro 3 GPS, it works correctly, shows heart rate and cardiogram for arrhythmias.
When I started the app for the first time it did not ask me to enable sensor permissions nor did it alert me that it did not have the permission enabled when I started monitoring. I activated them manually and it worked as expected.
About the PPG sensor address for TWP3 I don't know which one it is, I guess it is the same as the Fossil Gen5, because it works.
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Thank you so much! Didn't expect such a quick feedback!
I'll try correcting the permission part. And it's great to know, that app is compatible with TWP3.
Just in case, keep in mind, that this app runs in the background and should be stopped manually.
Hi, I would like to try this on my Fossil 6. Do you install the .apk on the watch or phone? Sorry, I've never installed outside of PlayStore.
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Hi, I would like to try this on my Fossil 6. Do you install the .apk on the watch or phone? Sorry, I've never installed outside of PlayStore.
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You can utilize this method to install this and any apk directly to WearOS.
A slightly updated version of the app, which now includes a request for permission to use BODY_SENSORS.
Gastopako said:
Hi all,
I have developed an application for a Wear OS, intended for a robust continuous atrial fibrillation (arrhythmia) and heart rate monitoring, which uses an optical sensor (green light) in the bottom of the watch. I'm currently limited to Fossil Gen 5 watch since my Samsung Galaxy Watch 4 won't give software access to its optical sensor.
Having said that, would anybody here like to test the app on their watches? It still needs to be improved and optimized, therefore, feedback would be appreciated. Also, it would run on other watches, however, in that case I would need to know an address of an optical sensor (Fossil Gen5 PPG sensor is 65572) so I could update the app.
I'd like to publish it in Google Play sometime later, have never done it before, it looks quite tricky, however, I filled most of the things there already.
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Privileged Health SDK | Samsung Developers
Aiming to advance innovation and development of new health and wellness solutions
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Looks to me like Samsung has their sensor hidden behind this 'privileged' api, might be worth trying to request access?
Actually I was able to find a couple potential addresses for the Samsung sensor when I poked around a bit, were you unable to actually access the hardware even with the address?
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Actually I was able to find a couple potential addresses for the Samsung sensor when I poked around a bit, were you unable to actually access the hardware even with the address?
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Thanks for the tip. As I matter of fact I did try contacting them in the exact same way you showed, however, I the declined my request without explanation. Maybe it is because I didn't mention any affiliation with business or something like that. I'll try requesting once again.
I also tried reading all the accessible sensors in Watch 4, however, software access to the PPG sensors is restricted.
I guess the sensor you are referring to is this one:
Samsung PPGBatch Sensor /Type_String: com.samsung.sensor.ppg_batch /Type_number: 69668
Galaxy Watch 4 offers wide range of sensors and I have developed quite a lot of various algorithms, which could be implemented, e.g., continuous SpO2 monitoring (red and infrared optical sensors), confirmation of a suspected atrial fibrillation (detected by using green light optical sensor) using an ECG strip.
I tested app on TicWatch E3 and it does work on this watch. However, I noticed that the quality of the Photoplethysmogram signal is worse than what I get in Fossil Gen 5 watch. With Fossil Gen 5 watch, you don't even have to search for a good spot on the wrist, the quality is always good and it is not the case with TicWatch E3. The algorithm in the app won't throw false alarms because of that, the signal quality is constantly monitored, however, with that kind of quality it would be tricky to detect AF if it was present.
I apologize but I would like some help. I have a ticwatch E3. I apparently installed the app using Wear Installer 2. That app indicated that the installation was was successful. However, the app does not appear in my launcher. Is there something else I need to do?
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I apologize but I would like some help. I have a ticwatch E3. I apparently installed the app using Wear Installer 2. That app indicated that the installation was was successful. However, the app does not appear in my launcher. Is there something else I need to do?
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You might want to consider utilizing Bugjaeger Mobile ADB as a really alternative and innovative solution to the problem of sideloading apps on Wear OS devices.
Thanks for the reply. Another question, as I said the Wear Installer 2 indicated that the app was installed. Would this app appear as an app in settings or in the launcher. If not, where is it on my watch?
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I tested app on TicWatch E3 and it does work on this watch. However, I noticed that the quality of the Photoplethysmogram signal is worse than what I get in Fossil Gen 5 watch. With Fossil Gen 5 watch, you don't even have to search for a good spot on the wrist, the quality is always good and it is not the case with TicWatch E3. The algorithm in the app won't throw false alarms because of that, the signal quality is constantly monitored, however, with that kind of quality it would be tricky to detect AF if it was present.
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I would like some help. I have a ticwatch E3. I apparently installed the app using Wear Installer 2. That app indicated that the installation was was successful. However, the app does not appear in my launcher. Is there something else I need to do?
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Thanks for the reply. Another question, as I said the Wear Installer 2 indicated that the app was installed. Would this app appear as an app in settings or in the launcher. If not, where is it on my watch?
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It would appear as an app in the launcher.
Hi, I did some updates to the app, mainly in the representation of the heart rate change over time. There are some as to say, drawbacks because for now heart rate values are saved in a local variable, therefore, if app was closed and restarted, the previous heart rate log would not be saved. I also have some thoughts in adding additional screen for the parameters of atrial fibrillation if one was detected, however, still not sure what information (e.g., beginning and the end of the AF episode, duration of the AF episode, etc. ) regarding this would be relevant for an ordinary user. Maybe some of you might have ideas what info would be of utmost relevance for you.
I would love to use this app on my Samsung Watch 5. I hope you succeed in getting access to the sensors on the Samsung Watches. I think your app would be very popular!
Hi, I know it's a tech site but to anyone suffering from atrial fibrillation-one of the most common but least talked about causes is head and neck posture/atlas position, slumped forward posture- very common with the amount of time we spend on our computers- see Dr John Berg youtube channel -
A good chiropractor or acupuncture practitioner can help to correct these abnormal and harmful postures and could possibly save you from surgery or pacemaker..
Don't ignore other causes which are more serious though-especially in the lat 2 years- lots of people are getting abnormal blood clotting since having a certain injection or getting long covid.
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I would love to use this app on my Samsung Watch 5. I hope you succeed in getting access to the sensors on the Samsung Watches. I think your app would be very popular!
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Thanks! I haven't motivated myself to fill the request for getting the sensor access yet. It is quite complicated. Another thing that I noticed is that the raw green PPG signal from Galaxy Watch 4 and 5 is sampled at 25 Hz. Mine algorithm uses higher sampling frequency. According to the info provided by Samsung, only RED and Infrared PPGs in Galaxy Watch 4 and 5 are sampled at 100 Hz.
I am planning on improving the app by integrating it with Health Connect or with something similar. Currently the app stores, e.g., heart rate data in temporary variables, which are cleared as soon as the app is restarted. Another option was to write data in the main storage; however, data management seems tricky to me, I wouldn't want to deal with databases on my own.
Are you able to get raw RED and IR PPG sensor data (or any of the PPG sensor data)?