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Hello,
I have found this comment about the cable :
Note: I tested PC mode with a USB Type-C to HDMI cable I bought on Amazon. Because the Mate 10 and Mate 10 Pro support USB 3.1 it’s technically possible that you can screen share to a monitor and charge the device at the same time. I asked Anker if a powered USB hub with HDMI support like this would work, but they said it depends on wiring and whether a hub has been designed to communicate with the Mate 10 or not. I also asked Huawei for clarification, and they have vowed to get back to me on the specifics of what to look out for in a compatible hub. I’ll update the review as more information comes in. Thanks to Bram Peeters for raising this issue.
Source : https://www.androidauthority.com/huawei-mate-10-pro-review-807465/
Is there a HUAWEI reference for this cable ?
Does it need to be HDCP compatible, with Netflix eg ?
Best regards
Hi Pascal... I already tried the desktop mode. Technically any type-c to hdmi adapter should work. I'm using this: https://www.incipio.com/chargers/usb-c/usb-c-digital-av-multiport-adapter.html ... and I added an HDMI to VGA cable adapter because there's a VGA cabled monitor at home that's not in use.
My current setup:
** Mate 10
** Incipio 3-port AV adapter
++ Logitech 2 in 1 wireless combo (keyboard and mouse using 1 usb dongle) attached to the 3-port adapter
++ Charger attached to the type-c port
** HDMI to VGA adapter
** monitor
Works without any issues except that the charger cannot push enough power to actually charge the phone. It still drops so probably from 80% you have a good 2 hours average of desktop mode time to perform stuff. I am thinking of getting a DELL type-c to hdmi adapter (just a simple hdmi adapter no extra ports) for playing games.
I got myself a Macbook usb 3.1 dongle ( Lmao ) and i can't seem to push power fast enough to charge my phone, it helps though, having power in drains the battery slower than having no power in
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I got myself a Macbook usb 3.1 dongle ( Lmao ) and i can't seem to push power fast enough to charge my phone, it helps though, having power in drains the battery slower than having no power in
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In fact, few months ago, i was looking for a USB C HUB (With or not HDMI, Ethernet) with power delivery,
for an ACER SWITCH V10 (2017), to connect many external USB HDD and KEYS.
I have found many products on Amazon.
And these products (USB C HUB) like EgoIggo HUB USB C (GN30E) on Amazon, could be fully adapted
with a Mate 10 PRO. Some of them are too Mac OS X or/and Windows compatible, with or not drivers.
Look the description :
[Multi-operation] 3 USB 3.0 ports, 2 Card Readers for SD and micro SD, 1 HDMI Slot, 1 RJ45 Eternet Port and 1 USB Type-C Charging Port. Compatible with new devices equipped with a Type-C USB port.
[High transfer speed] With a data rate of up to 5 Gbps, the three USB 3.0 ports allow you to connect your keyboard, mouse, USB flash drive and external hard drive to the laptop. An SD player and a micro SD player support SD / SDHC / SDXC cards up to 2 TB. An HDMI slot that supports resolutions up to 4K. An RJ45 Ethernet port allows a super-fast internet network up to 1Gbits / s, but also backwards compatible with 10 / 100Mbps
[Unique Design] This Hub is very small and thin, but robust, whose connection cable is properly flexible, which makes the connection very stable. This elegant aluminum-shaped design perfectly matches the style and color of MackBook and MackBook Pro.
[Power Delivery] USB-C Power Delivery (PD) for Macbook Macmini and other USB-C devices, capable of simultaneously transferring data and charging devices.
[Ultra Portable] This hub is packed with a small box of cardboard and well protected by a nice cover that prevents it from scratching your mackbook. Incredibly compact size and very practical to carry everywhere.
Best regards
404ErrorUsernameNotFound said:
I got myself a Macbook usb 3.1 dongle ( Lmao ) and i can't seem to push power fast enough to charge my phone, it helps though, having power in drains the battery slower than having no power in
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same concern with the incipio that I'm currently using.
From what I see, it will just drain the battery however we use it. Probably faster if we use the same adapter as Pascal's find. If I have the chance I will test Huawei's adapters (they have a different brand of adapter here in the Philippines) - I can try and borrow: see if it CAN push the power enough to charge the phone. But I'm already assuming that it won't.
Given the fact that the type-c port provides 100% of what it's supposed to run on desktop mode, powering the adapter.. powering whatever usb device is plugged in, that power requirement is the one that needs to be addressed.
But overall not bad for a phone especially when you can still use the phone while working on desktop mode. We can't do work on the phone of course but just enough to get a few things done with a screen and keyboard/mouse combo...
Well according to some German website it's stated that the Mate 10 is Compatible with USB [email protected]*2A so we might need to get a USB PD compatible charger to hopefully gain more juice than using draining the battery slowly
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Well according to some German website it's stated that the Mate 10 is Compatible with USB [email protected]*2A so we might need to get a USB PD compatible charger to hopefully gain more juice than using draining the battery slowly
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probably if we use an adapter with a type-c slot going to the type-c port of the hdmi/type-c adapter....
I was looking at the Tronsmart multiport charger I think. It has a type-c port so you can use a type-c to type-c cable... BUT it only pushes out as fast charge on the mate 9... so of course that's also a fast charge on the mate 10... BUT again, that's if we plug the phone directly to the charger... would that be a different case if we plug it to the hdmi adapter? I'm actually planning to buy it.. just so I have a multiport adapter especially when out and about. This one says Power Delivery.. probably I'll grab this thing by end of the month and the type-c end to end cable...
http://www.tronsmart.com/products/tronsmart-u5p-60w-usb-pd-desktop-charger-with-voltiq
hopefully I can report back as soon as I get it.
current dilemma is we have a super charge adapter... and yet it's not pushing enough juice... hopefully the type-c type-c scenario works so we won't have draining issues...
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CORRECTION ON THE BRAND...
I was referring to Anker and yes the idea for Power Delivery appears to work.
https://www.anker.com/products/variant/PowerPort%2B-5-Ports-USB-C-/A2053111
Still using my desktop mode original setup:
Mate 10 - Incipio 3-port adapter (type-c/hdmi/regular usb) - hdmi to vga adapter (vga cable LED monitor) - TYPE-C to TYPE-C cable going to the new Anker desktop charger (type-c port is Power Delivery capable) ....
Phone shows FAST CHARGING instead of just charging...
https://imgur.com/a/V7qII
Started around 68% now I'm at 74%. So I guess that should be the solution. Just grab a PD (power delivery) capable charger. The one from Tronsmart should work without issues as well.
Cheers guys!:good:
Baseus O HUB Type-C multi-function converter Adapter
Hi, I'm using a mate 10 and I've just bought a Baseus O HUB Type-C multi-function converter Adapter (HDMI + Type-c charging port + USB3.0). Can't seems to get it to work (PC mode or mirror) when connected to HDMI (tried on Panasonic LED TV & Toshiba projector).
Wireless mouse and keyboard working and phone is charging when I've plug in the charger to the hub. Is there any setting that I've missed?
Regarding Desktop mode: I bought an adapter and successfully connected my mate 10 to an HD TV, but the resolution is low, does it depend on the TV, the cable, the adapter or there is a way to set the desktop mode resolution? I haven't found it ...
drkprd said:
CORRECTION ON THE BRAND...
I was referring to Anker and yes the idea for Power Delivery appears to work.
https://www.anker.com/products/variant/PowerPort%2B-5-Ports-USB-C-/A2053111
Still using my desktop mode original setup:
Mate 10 - Incipio 3-port adapter (type-c/hdmi/regular usb) - hdmi to vga adapter (vga cable LED monitor) - TYPE-C to TYPE-C cable going to the new Anker desktop charger (type-c port is Power Delivery capable) ....
Phone shows FAST CHARGING instead of just charging...
https://imgur.com/a/V7qII
Started around 68% now I'm at 74%. So I guess that should be the solution. Just grab a PD (power delivery) capable charger. The one from Tronsmart should work without issues as well.
Cheers guys!:good:
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so standard Mate 10 Pro charger (which says fast charging when plugged into phone) doesnt fast charge the phone when connected to the USB Hub. But youre saying if i buy this Anker charger my phone will fast charge when connected to a USB hub?
What is the exact spec of that Anker charger that makes it different to the Huawei charger in the box? Sorry for confusion, thanks in advance.
pixielott46 said:
so standard Mate 10 Pro charger (which says fast charging when plugged into phone) doesnt fast charge the phone when connected to the USB Hub. But youre saying if i buy this Anker charger my phone will fast charge when connected to a USB hub?
What is the exact spec of that Anker charger that makes it different to the Huawei charger in the box? Sorry for confusion, thanks in advance.
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Anker desktop charger that I'm using: https://www.anker.com/products/variant/PowerPort%2B-5-Ports-USB-C-/A2053111
It has Power Delivery - which powers most usb-c devices nowadays especially Macs and other Google devices if I got that correct.
The description has this:
USB Type-C, Premium 5-Port 60W USB Wall Charger with Power Delivery for Apple MacBook, Nexus 5X / 6P and PowerIQ for iPhone, iPad, Samsung & More
The stock charger will definitely work without problems IF DIRECTLY attached to the phone but this time we have an external device - the multi-port hdmi/type-c/usb adapter. Yes it has a type-c port included and you can attach the stock charger but from my experience especially with the Incipio adapter, it requires more "push" because the stock charger just slows down the drain when using desktop mode. It does not increase the phone's battery juice while in use.
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** Also, Huawei stock supercharger adapter pushes 22.5W of power BUT ONLY if connected directly to phone. Power delivery pushes 29W of power REGARDLESS of which device it's connected to. The Huawei charger is also picky so it might not be using all 22.5W if connected to an in-between adapter.
drkprd said:
Anker desktop charger that I'm using: https://www.anker.com/products/variant/PowerPort%2B-5-Ports-USB-C-/A2053111
It has Power Delivery - which powers most usb-c devices nowadays especially Macs and other Google devices if I got that correct.
The description has this:
USB Type-C, Premium 5-Port 60W USB Wall Charger with Power Delivery for Apple MacBook, Nexus 5X / 6P and PowerIQ for iPhone, iPad, Samsung & More
The stock charger will definitely work without problems IF DIRECTLY attached to the phone but this time we have an external device - the multi-port hdmi/type-c/usb adapter. Yes it has a type-c port included and you can attach the stock charger but from my experience especially with the Incipio adapter, it requires more "push" because the stock charger just slows down the drain when using desktop mode. It does not increase the phone's battery juice while in use.
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** Also, Huawei stock supercharger adapter pushes 22.5W of power BUT ONLY if connected directly to phone. Power delivery pushes 29W of power REGARDLESS of which device it's connected to. The Huawei charger is also picky so it might not be using all 22.5W if connected to an in-between adapter.
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hi, thanks for your detailed reply. the edit with the wattage is especially useful. one last question. Does the Anker charger "fast-charge" the huawei mate 10 pro when connected directly? or just standard usb charging?
If yes, i will replace my huawei official charger with this anker one. handy that it has some usb ports as well so i can charge my bicycle lights overnight etc as well
thanks in advance for the further information
pixielott46 said:
hi, thanks for your detailed reply. the edit with the wattage is especially useful. one last question. Does the Anker charger "fast-charge" the huawei mate 10 pro when connected directly? or just standard usb charging?
If yes, i will replace my huawei official charger with this anker one. handy that it has some usb ports as well so i can charge my bicycle lights overnight etc as well
thanks in advance for the further information
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that's one of the things I actually was surprised with and didn't really expect...really good news for us because it does!! The phone registers FAST CHARGING even if I have "everything" connected for desktop mode.
* phone + incipio type-c hdmi usb combo
* incipio + hdmi-vga converter
* vga converter + vga led monitor
* Anker multi-port with type-c power delivery + anker type-c to type-c cord ..... connected to the incipio
** and a recent addition: since the incipio only has 1 regular USB port, I bought a 4-port usb hub... connected it to the incipio so that basically splits 1 into 4 usb ports... I attached my wireless keyboard/mouse combo and my Western Digital 1 Terabyte external HDD...... NO PROBLEMS WHATSOEVER.... haha!.. phone still chargers UP with fast charging indication...
Now I guess I have a full working desktop system with the mate 10
(I'm using the regular mate 10 but I guess that shouldn't affect the charge input/output)
drkprd said:
that's one of the things I actually was surprised with and didn't really expect...really good news for us because it does!! The phone registers FAST CHARGING even if I have "everything" connected for desktop mode.
* phone + incipio type-c hdmi usb combo
* incipio + hdmi-vga converter
* vga converter + vga led monitor
* Anker multi-port with type-c power delivery + anker type-c to type-c cord ..... connected to the incipio
** and a recent addition: since the incipio only has 1 regular USB port, I bought a 4-port usb hub... connected it to the incipio so that basically splits 1 into 4 usb ports... I attached my wireless keyboard/mouse combo and my Western Digital 1 Terabyte external HDD...... NO PROBLEMS WHATSOEVER.... haha!.. phone still chargers UP with fast charging indication...
Now I guess I have a full working desktop system with the mate 10
(I'm using the regular mate 10 but I guess that shouldn't affect the charge input/output)
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Just an FYI to others, the Huawei Mate 10 Pro has 3 different charging modes. One is USB Charging, very very slow. One is Fast charging, like regular charging i guess. SuperCharging is really really fast. This Anker charger only fast charges my device.
I cant get SuperCharge unless I use the Huawei official charger or the Huawei AP09S PowerBank.
How can I SuperCharge with 3rd party accessories?!
pixielott46 said:
Just an FYI to others, the Huawei Mate 10 Pro has 3 different charging modes. One is USB Charging, very very slow. One is Fast charging, like regular charging i guess. SuperCharging is really really fast. This Anker charger only fast charges my device.
I cant get SuperCharge unless I use the Huawei official charger or the Huawei AP09S PowerBank.
How can I SuperCharge with 3rd party accessories?!
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To understand the chargin technologies one must understand how Watts Volts and Ampere work. Volt x Ampere = Watt. Explaining Volt and Ampere is kinda long story but to keep it short: Imagine a garden hose: The pressure of the water is Volt, the speed of the water is Ampere. Watt is the amount of water thats pouring out.
There are various technologies for charging, in the end it matter how many Watts there are. But different combinations of Volts and Ampere are possible to achieve the same amount of Watts.
There is a new universal standard called Power Delivery which was introduced with USB 3.1 Type C. So this is a standard that comes with usb 3.1 type c and that is why all the new usb3.1 type c laptops support it. (PD supports multiple protocols (combinations of V and A to reach up to 100W) and the more powerful ones mostly support the lower ones too. that means a 100W PD charging brick could charge a 5Vx3A=15W Phone, a 14Vx2A=28W iPad Pro, a 60W Macbook, an 80W Ultrabook etc.)
Previous Charging standards are something around 5V and 1A,2A, computer usb 2.0 ports only give 0.5A and usb3.0 ports give 1A, which is why some laptops have a dedicated phone charging port that delivers 2A (most phones used 5V/2A before fast charging technologies hit the market, it is also the protocol phones fall back to if the charging brick does not support the fast charging technology of the phones manufacturer)
Phone manufacturers have their own technoligies or license them from other companies. Qualcom has QuickCharge which many smartphones use (Samsung uses QuickCharge 2.0 with 9V and 1,67A (Delivers roughly 15W))
Huawei has its own SuperCharge which is based on 5V/4A and 4,5V/5A (delivers around 22W). So in order to use supercharge you have to get a charging brick that explicitely supports 4,5V/5A protocol and a cable that supports 5A (since standard USB 3.1 Type C Power Delivery protocols are based on a maximum of 3A most usb-c cables dont support 5A).
So as i mentioned before: more powerful charging bricks usually support less powerful protocols. so in order to charge devices that do not support the specific fast chargind protocol, all chargers also support 5V2A. Thats what happens if a Samsung is charged with huawei brick or my mate 10 pro is charged with the samsung brick (the difference being that Huawei seems to label the usb 3.0 pc port 5V/1A as "charging", the normal 5V/2A as fast charging and the Huawei SuperCharge at 4,5V/5A obviously is called SuperCharge). USB Power Delivery aims to end that by providing a standard that is available for all that use a 3.1 type c port. (that means if i have a 60W apple chargin brick for my macbook i can also use the same brick to charge my 29W ipad pro or another 60W usb type c ultrabook with windows with the same brick and cable without thinking twice. before usb type c and PD all laptops had to have dedicated chargers)
enricomemo said:
Regarding Desktop mode: I bought an adapter and successfully connected my mate 10 to an HD TV, but the resolution is low, does it depend on the TV, the cable, the adapter or there is a way to set the desktop mode resolution? I haven't found it ...
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Hi enrico. I have exactly the same issue and it seems like its related to the 4K TV only. FHD TV work fine with my mate 10 pro but when I connect it to 4K TV it sticks to 640*480 resolution, which is useless obviously. Have you found a solution or anyone else ?
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Hi enrico. I have exactly the same issue and it seems like its related to the 4K TV only. FHD TV work fine with my mate 10 pro but when I connect it to 4K TV it sticks to 640*480 resolution, which is useless obviously. Have you found a solution or anyone else ?
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My TV isn't 4k and I too get the 640*480 resolution
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My TV isn't 4k and I too get the 640*480 resolution
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What is the model of your TV ? Maybe its a model-related issue (not the native resolution), I tried with a hdmi 2.0 cable and the problem is still here. I own a samsung 55MU7000.
drkprd said:
CORRECTION ON THE BRAND...
I was referring to Anker and yes the idea for Power Delivery appears to work.
https://www.anker.com/products/variant/PowerPort+-5-Ports-USB-C-/A2053111
Still using my desktop mode original setup:
Mate 10 - Incipio 3-port adapter (type-c/hdmi/regular usb) - hdmi to vga adapter (vga cable LED monitor) - TYPE-C to TYPE-C cable going to the new Anker desktop charger (type-c port is Power Delivery capable) ....
Phone shows FAST CHARGING instead of just charging...
https://imgur.com/a/V7qII
Started around 68% now I'm at 74%. So I guess that should be the solution. Just grab a PD (power delivery) capable charger. The one from Tronsmart should work without issues as well.
Cheers guys!:good:
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You getting much heat on the device I've used Samsung dex before and the S8 got warm but not very, I'm using the Mate 10 and the Dex hub which charges fast but phones gets quite hot using easy projection
I have a ton of Qualcomm quick chargers and I'm not feeling this Dash charge with its special cable restriction. I saw this adapter and from the reddit posts, it seems to work well. It even works with normal USB Type C cable. Does anyone have experience with it and the 6T?
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=SFC+AFC+VOOC+SCP&_sacat=0
I have some coming in the mail as we speak - I will let you know once I get them tested. There are supposedly some signaling differences between different OP versions, which may require a new adapter.
My take is that none of the WEB- adapters (on eBay) would work with the 6T, since that manufacturer is already selling a specialized adapter for OP beyond or equals to 5T. The WEB- adapters, however, offer a wider range of fast charge protocols as opposed to the YZXStudio adapter, which supports only VOOC-DASH. The YZXStudio adapter also has a current cap, which you can slightly adjust by soldering pins on the adapter itself. You are unlikely to get the full benefit of DASH from the YZXStudio adapter because of this cap, although your Quick Charge chargers most likely will be the limiting factor. Also note that the WEB- adapters require an input of at least 10 or so volts, so their A2A adapters will automatically request QC2/3 @ 12V. If your adapter does not support 12V, then it would not work properly. Your adapter should at least output 12V @ 1.5A for it to be any good after conversion losses.
This cable works although it seems to have gone out of stock.
COOYA OnePlus 6 Dash Type-C Charger Cable, 5V 4A Dash Charge USB C Cable Charging Rapidly, Braided USB Type C Fast Charger Cable Dash Charging for OnePlus 5T, OnePlus 5, OnePlus 3T, OnePlus 3 (6.6FT) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07F3DYDC7
Jaxidian said:
This cable works although it seems to have gone out of stock.
COOYA OnePlus 6 Dash Type-C Charger Cable, 5V 4A Dash Charge USB C Cable Charging Rapidly, Braided USB Type C Fast Charger Cable Dash Charging for OnePlus 5T, OnePlus 5, OnePlus 3T, OnePlus 3 (6.6FT) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07F3DYDC7
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I think the OP is trying to avoid using OP specific cables but rather use a QC2/3-DASH adapter and a normal USB-C cable for charging the phone. That said, aftermarket cables are not that expensive on AliExpress, eBay, or even Amazon. Although if you insist, I would encourage that you get heavier gauge USB cables for this...
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I have some coming in the mail as we speak - I will let you know once I get them tested. There are supposedly some signaling differences between different OP versions, which may require a new adapter.
My take is that none of the WEB- adapters (on eBay) would work with the 6T, since that manufacturer is already selling a specialized adapter for OP beyond or equals to 5T. The WEB- adapters, however, offer a wider range of fast charge protocols as opposed to the YZXStudio adapter, which supports only VOOC-DASH. The YZXStudio adapter also has a current cap, which you can slightly adjust by soldering pins on the adapter itself. You are unlikely to get the full benefit of DASH from the YZXStudio adapter because of this cap, although your Quick Charge chargers most likely will be the limiting factor. Also note that the WEB- adapters require an input of at least 10 or so volts, so their A2A adapters will automatically request QC2/3 @ 12V. If your adapter does not support 12V, then it would not work properly. Your adapter should at least output 12V @ 1.5A for it to be any good after conversion losses.
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Thank you for the information. Please let me know what you can find. I do have QC adapters that support 12V. If there're adapters that works, I rather buy those instead of investing in new bricks, cables, car chargers, battery packs,... My other devices either support QC or PD. Investing in Dash charger doesn't make any sense at all.
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I think the OP is trying to avoid using OP specific cables but rather use a QC2/3-DASH adapter and a normal USB-C cable for charging the phone. That said, aftermarket cables are not that expensive on AliExpress, eBay, or even Amazon. Although if you insist, I would encourage that you get heavier gauge USB cables for this...
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Oh, then I misunderstood something. I did read it quickly.
Thanks for pointing out my error.
tengtengvn said:
Thank you for the information. Please let me know what you can find. I do have QC adapters that support 12V. If there're adapters that works, I rather buy those instead of investing in new bricks, cables, car chargers, battery packs,... My other devices either support QC or PD. Investing in Dash charger doesn't make any sense at all.
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I hear you - I did buy a multifunction car charger that supports both QC3.0 and DASH - I will report whether that works when it comes (hopefully later in the week if not the following week). I have also gotten the specialized versions from WEB- in China so once I get those I will let you know.
So I got one of the adapters today - this is an older version that does DC to Type C, so I did not expect it to work (even though it specifically listed VOOC and DASH support - maybe it worked for an older OP version).
This one was from eBay, and supposedly the seller sent me the wrong item (WEB- makes a 12V and a 20V PD version - and instead of the 20V version they sent me the 12V version instead - which can only decrease voltage due to the builtin buck converter inside).
So the question is - does it work with DASH charging? --- No, it did not. However, it is still an interesting adapter because it has broad fast charge technology support. They market this little adapter to convert your "dumb" laptop charger into a "multifunctional charger."
Interesting facts:
1. This adapter requires 12V for it to function. It does start turning on at around 11V or so, and anything below that will cause the output to shut off and the operation light to go red. The USB to USB version automatically requests QC @ 12V, but obviously, this cannot be done on a DC jack (on this particular version).
2. As soon as the voltage going in exceeds 11.5V, the output turns on with a steady blue status indication.
3. The USB-C version of this adapter supports USB-C Power Delivery (PD2.0) with three selectable voltages 5.00V @ 3.03A, 9.00V @ 2.39A, 12.00V @ 2.31A (there is a 20V version that supposedly does 15 and 20V as well for laptops, but the seller sent me the wrong version).
4. The input side is a 5.5 x 2.5 DC jack, which is somewhat odd as an input because most input jacks use the smaller 5.5 x 2.1 jack (you can use an adapter on it, however).
5. You can see from the tester that this adapter supports pretty much everything, except VOOC/DASH and 20V QC and AFC 12V.
6. QC 2.0 9V engages just fine to charge my older Nexus 6 via a USB-C to USB-A adapter (since the D+/D- lines are intact).
I do have more adapters coming in soon so I will let you know how they go once they come in (including the WEB- VOOC/DASH specialized USB-USB adapter). This particular version may be a fun adapter to play with, although it won't really help with DASH charging on the OnePlus.
tengtengvn said:
I have a ton of Qualcomm quick chargers and I'm not feeling this Dash charge with its special cable restriction. I saw this adapter and from the reddit posts, it seems to work well. It even works with normal USB Type C cable. Does anyone have experience with it and the 6T?
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=SFC+AFC+VOOC+SCP&_sacat=0
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I bought the first one and tried in my car yesterday. With the cable come with OP6T, the DASH charging works! It shows charging rapidly. Cool!
thomast said:
I bought the first one and tried in my car yesterday. With the cable come with OP6T, the DASH charging works! It shows charging rapidly. Cool!
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Nice. Can you link to the exact one that you bought? For it work with non dash cable?
chowfun said:
I do have more adapters coming in soon so I will let you know how they go once they come in (including the WEB- VOOC/DASH specialized USB-USB adapter). This particular version may be a fun adapter to play with, although it won't really help with DASH charging on the OnePlus.
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Wow. Thanks for the info. It looks like a good replacement for the Macbook 12 30W adapter. :laugh:
tengtengvn said:
Nice. Can you link to the exact one that you bought? For it work with non dash cable?
Wow. Thanks for the info. It looks like a good replacement for the Macbook 12 30W adapter. :laugh:
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The seller is resending me the 20V version - will let you know how that goes
Just using anker usb3.0 cables i had from a previous phone. Dont really need to dash charge, this phone seems fast enough.
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dermotti said:
Just using anker usb3.0 cables i had from a previous phone. Dont really need to dash charge, this phone seems fast enough.
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Thanks for letting us know but what point are you trying to make? :silly:
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Thanks for letting us know but what point are you trying to make? :silly:
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Lol somehow i posted in the wrong thread. Meant to post in the "what usbc are you using for your oneplus"
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Here's an update on the car adapter I have received. Note that the other adapters are still on the slow boat so I will get to them when they arrive. This isn't necessarily what you are after, but nonetheless, it's another interesting toy. If you are interested, it can be found on AliExpress under item number 32916499372.
This is a car charger that accepts 12-24V input, and also supposedly supports multiple fast charging technologies (DASH, VOOC, QC, etc). It comes with an "original" (questionable - but capable of 3.5A charge) DASH cable which is not bad at all for about $13.
Interesting facts:
1) The car charger comes with dual USB ports. One "quick charge" port and one "standard" port. The quick charge port lights up red on one side and the blue indicates the normal charge port. Some may like that it lights up, but my thought is that it's a waste of energy.
2) The Quick Charge port supports all available quick charge methods (the VOOC-DASH section don't light up probably because it doesn't use the same protocol for unblocking DASH charging that the original charger requires).
3) The charger does not require an ID chip on the USB-C cable (unlike the stock charger), which means you can use any USB-A to USB-C cable on the market to activate DASH charging (as long as the D+/D- pins are not shorted out). This car charger doesn't even have the odd PIN in the back of the USB connector for the ID communication.
4) The car charger is not as fast as the stock wall charger, which charges around 3.5A. Here are the test comparisons (allow some current variances due to battery percentage ~70-72% - note all of them had the lightning bolt on the charging indicator which indicated that DASH was indeed activated with none of these cables having D+/D- shorted):
a) Normal, 1 ft USB-A to C Cable: 2.46A
b) Bundled DASH cable, w/ car charger: 2.73A
c) Bundled DASH cable, w/ stock wall charger: 3.5A
d) Normal, 3 ft (Rankie) USB C Cable: 2.56A
e) Normal, 3 ft MicroUSB w/ USB-C Adapter (ANKER): 1.95A
f) Normal, 3 ft multi (MicroUSB + Type C) free conference charging cable: 1.32A (this one did not "pass" the fast charging test because the current is below 1.5A but nonetheless it triggered DASH charging).
Not a big difference if you use quality cables, although don't expect it to charge as fast as the wall charger - nonetheless, it is still doing pretty well with less heat generated due to lesser current.
5) As mentioned previously, the charger supports multiple charging technologies besides DASH, where it activated QC 2.0 9V on my Nexus 6 just fine.
6) Since this adapter allows 12-24V DC input, you can use a DC to lighter adapter to power this device (as you can see in my screenshots I used a laptop battery pack and a 12V router wall brick and it was able to turn on and charge my devices just fine.) This may also be a good way to have a longer reach charging solution since DASH is very cable sensitive and it is best to keep the cable length short to minimize the reduction in charging currents.
Here's a test of the 100 cm noodle cable on AliExpress (item 32806193071):
Using the stock wall charger, charging the phone @ ~50%:
The genuine OnePlus cable was able to charge at 3.657A @ 4.69V (17.15W).
The noodle cable on AliExpress was able to charge at 3.617A @ 4.81V (17.4W).
Based on the results, it seemed like the quality was as good as the genuine cable, at least the copper that is carrying the power to the phone.
Here are the test results of the final adapter I received from WEB- (the specialized VOOC-DASH version - Taobao Item #560336325713):
Stuff to note:
1) This adapter is very similar to the car adapter, in which it supports pretty much all quick charge technologies and it does not require the OnePlus ID chip to activate DASH charging. However, this adapter is QC activated and has a USB-A input interface. Like the car charger, this charger is also not as fast as the stock wall brick, although it is still relatively quick.)
2) The USB pinout schematic also looks the same as the car charger (USB 2.0 with no dangling USB 3.0 pin in the back for ID chip identification).
3) Like the other 12V based WEB- adapters, this one uses the IP6518C chipset, which supports a wide voltage input (10.5V - 32V - from the chipset datasheet).
4) The board looks fairly similar to the USB-C board, except this one has a USB-A input (which is interesting because the board has the DC 12V-24V marking on it still).
5) The board also has the POW and OK lights similar to the USB-C version.
6) Since the board accepts broad input voltages, it is not required to use QC for the input voltage. A USB-A to 5.5 x 2.1 adapter could be used to also provide the DC input, as long as the voltage is above 10.5V.
7) Although the board indeed supports down stepping a 20V DC input, it seems like it is a bit less efficient in doing so than a 12V input.
8) Similar to the previous cable tests, the quality and the length of the cable really makes a difference. The shorter and the better quality cable that is used, the better the charging rate (remember that an official cable does not need to be used for third-party chargers).
9) As mentioned previously, this charger supports other fast charging technologies, like QC2.0 - which works fine in charging my Nexus 6 at 9V.
10) This charger / adapter essentially allows any 12V @ 1.5A output to be a multifunction fast charger w/ DASH support. In my example, I used a Xiaomi router wall brick (12 V @ 1.5A DC) and it charges my phone using DASH at almost 3A output using a short 1ft USB-C cable! (the phone registers the current slightly lower at around 2750mA).
Great info, @chowfun. I was able to purchase 2 OPPO wall chargers from Asia and a 3rd party VOOC car charger which work great.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=78182174&postcount=24
I also got the same oneplus flat cable but 150cm length. It works good with no notable slow down.
From your findings, it looks like the WEB- adapter charge slower but that's still plenty fast and much more convenience. :good: Does it generate a lot of heat when charging a low battery?
Nice keyboard, I like it. ?
That said, the Quick9 charger you bought probably does not require the ID chip as far as DASH is concerned. I didn't get that one because it had a lower current rating and that the top of the charger is wider than the other one I bought. I doubt the OPPO charger would work with a regular microUSB cable since I presume that it also requires the chip on the cable end... Did you also see what kind of maximum currents you are seeing on those chargers?
Heat wise, it does generate a bit of heat with the conversion. But given that the adapter is housed in an aluminum case it's to be expected. It feels just slightly warm to the touch, but not exactly hot to the touch. Instead of that conversion being done in the phone it's just being done outside the phone which is directing the heat away from the battery...
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Nice keyboard, I like it.
That said, the Quick9 charger you bought probably does not require the ID chip as far as DASH is concerned. I doubt the OPPO charger would work with a regular microUSB cable since I presume that it also requires the chip on the cable end... Did you also see what kind of maximum currents you are seeing on those charges?
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LOL. My wife doesn't like those RGB lights. lol
The input and output of the OPPO charger look exactly the same as the 1+ charger. It's pretty much identical except for the cosmetic (logo, prints, the USB A female is green). They're selling for $4.
Has anyone found car chargers that you would recommend? I ordered one from amazon that said it is compatible with Pixel 4a, although it does not activate rapid charging, so its going back.
My Ideal car charger would be: High quality PD rapid charge with USB-C coiled cord attached and extra USB-A port.
crakedparrot said:
Has anyone found car chargers that you would recommend? I ordered one from amazon that said it is compatible with Pixel 4a, although it does not activate rapid charging, so its going back.
My Ideal car charger would be: High quality PD rapid charge with USB-C coiled cord attached and extra USB-A port.
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Bought this one a year ago for my 3a, still working great. Works fine on 4a also.
Also this one.
crakedparrot said:
Has anyone found car chargers that you would recommend? I ordered one from amazon that said it is compatible with Pixel 4a, although it does not activate rapid charging, so its going back.
My Ideal car charger would be: High quality PD rapid charge with USB-C coiled cord attached and extra USB-A port.
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I bought this one last month for my car. You need to make sure when buying that they support PD. This one rapid charged both my 3a and the 4a. Luckily for me I have both power adapters from the 3a and 4a so one stays in my 'go bag'.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08336XQR9?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
I also bought this set of cables which supports PD. Good cables.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PKNCTX6?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
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crakedparrot said:
Has anyone found car chargers that you would recommend? I ordered one from amazon that said it is compatible with Pixel 4a, although it does not activate rapid charging, so its going back.
My Ideal car charger would be: High quality PD rapid charge with USB-C coiled cord attached and extra USB-A port.
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Some years back I grabbed this Nekteck for my Pixel XL, and it has worked flawlessly in a variety of vehicles:
https://smile.amazon.com/Charger-Ne...keywords=nektek+charger&qid=1598622655&sr=8-8
They now also make one with a removable cord:
https://smile.amazon.com/Nekteck-Ce...keywords=nektek+charger&qid=1598622655&sr=8-3
This works great with my 2xl should be good for my 4a in 13 days.
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B01M7RS21N?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
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My Ideal car charger would be: High quality PD rapid charge with USB-C coiled cord attached and extra USB-A port.
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I've always had a good experience with Anker products. This one checks 2 of your 3 requirements.
https://www.anker.com/products/variant/powerdrive-speed--duo/A22270F1
Or, since the 4a will only draw 18w max, save a few bucks and go with this one:
https://www.anker.com/products/variant/powerdrive-pd-2-car-charger/A2720011
Just looking for a longer cord. What's odd is my OnePlus 5t charger or usb-c cord do not charge my 4a. Nor does my usb-c cord with the 4a c-adaptor on one end work with the 4a charger.
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tcat007 said:
Just looking for a longer cord. What's odd is my OnePlus 5t charger or usb-c cord do not charge my 4a. Nor does my usb-c cord with the 4a c-adaptor on one end work with the 4a charger.
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Interesting. Both my wall & car charger from my OnePlus 7Pro are working fine.
Can I use usb-pd or do I have to get quick charge
Jonathanlc2005 said:
Can I use usb-pd or do I have to get quick charge
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USB PD will be best. I use UGreen charger with USB PD and it's charging my Pixel as fast as the original socket charger.
Help,
I have tried 3 different chargers (1 generic Anker, 1 supplied with Huawei P30 pro, and one supplied with Huawei mediapad tablet. none work
Nor does plugging into USB port on PC. I have tried various different cables to no avail. All cables work to charge P30 pro from its own charger @40 watts.
All chargers and USB port will charge the P30 pro
The only way I can get any juice at all into this bugger is by charging from the P30 pro directly.
I also noticed that the security update that installed last night took forever (roughly 4 hours) during 'optimising apps' phase.
Have tried factory reset too
I think I've got a dud
keithy999 said:
I think I've got a dud
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It sure sounds that way.
Having the same problem. Pixel 6 regular edition. Will only charge when the phone is turned off.
Chob77 said:
Having the same problem. Pixel 6 regular edition. Will only charge when the phone is turned off.
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Mine wouldn't even charge when the phone was off. it would show the battery symbol with 'lightning' but wouldnt actually charge - you could see the battery level drop in this state
Google are not being helpful about getting a replacement or even admitting there's a fault yet. I might just send it back and get a refund
keithy999 said:
Mine wouldn't even charge when the phone was off. it would show the battery symbol with 'lightning' but wouldnt actually charge - you could see the battery level drop in this state
Google are not being helpful about getting a replacement or even admitting there's a fault yet. I might just send it back and get a refund
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I've figured out the problem. I have the P30 Pro charger and two Samsung chargers which are all USB A. None of them worked. What did work was a Huawei laptop USB C charger. It seems from reading elsewhere there's a good chance that USB A chargers won't work with the Pixel.
I thought Google hadn't included a charger with the Pixel for environmental reasons. Seems like many people will be forced to buy a new charger for their Pixel, thus defeating the point.
Chob77 said:
I've figured out the problem. I have the P30 Pro charger and two Samsung chargers which are all USB A. None of them worked. What did work was a Huawei laptop USB C charger. It seems from reading elsewhere there's a good chance that USB A chargers won't work with the Pixel.
I thought Google hadn't included a charger with the Pixel for environmental reasons. Seems like many people will be forced to buy a new charger for their Pixel, thus defeating the point.
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I'll try my Lenovo USB C charger. thanks I'll let you know!
Chob77 said:
I've figured out the problem. I have the P30 Pro charger and two Samsung chargers which are all USB A. None of them worked. What did work was a Huawei laptop USB C charger. It seems from reading elsewhere there's a good chance that USB A chargers won't work with the Pixel.
I thought Google hadn't included a charger with the Pixel for environmental reasons. Seems like many people will be forced to buy a new charger for their Pixel, thus defeating the point.
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Blimey, that works. I'm a little annoyed I can't just plug it into my PC and slowly charge it overnight. but this saves the hassle of dealing with Googles useless support. Indeed the 'help article' I was directed to says to plug it into a PC as part of the fault finding.
Will anyone else's Pixel 6 (non pro) charge from PC USB connection??
keithy999 said:
Mine wouldn't even charge when the phone was off. it would show the battery symbol with 'lightning' but wouldnt actually charge - you could see the battery level drop in this state
Google are not being helpful about getting a replacement or even admitting there's a fault yet. I might just send it back and get a refund
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It was probably a huge mistake for them to not include a charger with it.
yes, your charger needs to support PD 3.0 PPS charging to get the fastest charging possible on the pixels
keithy999 said:
Blimey, that works. I'm a little annoyed I can't just plug it into my PC and slowly charge it overnight. but this saves the hassle of dealing with Googles useless support. Indeed the 'help article' I was directed to says to plug it into a PC as part of the fault finding.
Will anyone else's Pixel 6 (non pro) charge from PC USB connection??
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Don't believe buddy above. This is not normal. Every phone I've ever had with usb-c works with a usb-a to usb-c cable. It charges and transfers data just fine. I also use one on my car stereo to phone for Android auto. Your phone is a dud. Get a replacement.
rogosteve said:
Don't believe buddy above. This is not normal. Every phone I've ever had with usb-c works with a usb-a to usb-c cable. It charges and transfers data just fine. I also use one on my car stereo to phone for Android auto. Your phone is a dud. Get a replacement.
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The guy above didn't say it wouldn't charge at all with a regular charger or wire. He said for ***fastest charging possible*** you need PD3.
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The guy above didn't say it wouldn't charge at all with a regular charger or wire. He said for ***fastest charging possible*** you need PD3.
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Chob77 said:
I've figured out the problem. I have the P30 Pro charger and two Samsung chargers which are all USB A. None of them worked. What did work was a Huawei laptop USB C charger. It seems from reading elsewhere there's a good chance that USB A chargers won't work with the Pixel.
I thought Google hadn't included a charger with the Pixel for environmental reasons. Seems like many people will be forced to buy a new charger for their Pixel, thus defeating the point.
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There is more than one guy above. The one I am referring to is quoted above for your viewing pleasure.
Hi, just to confirm, my Pixel 6 will only charge from USB-C charger. I was hoping if someone could confirm whetehr theirs charges from a PC with USB-A to USB-C cable.
I admit it doesn't sound right that this won't work
Thanks
keithy999 said:
Hi, just to confirm, my Pixel 6 will only charge from USB-C charger. I was hoping if someone could confirm whetehr theirs charges from a PC with USB-A to USB-C cable.
I admit it doesn't sound right that this won't work
Thanks
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Mine charges without any issue at a PC with USB-A to USB-C cable from Anker.
keithy999 said:
Blimey, that works. I'm a little annoyed I can't just plug it into my PC and slowly charge it overnight. but this saves the hassle of dealing with Googles useless support. Indeed the 'help article' I was directed to says to plug it into a PC as part of the fault finding.
Will anyone else's Pixel 6 (non pro) charge from PC USB connection??
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Mine does fast charge from the laptop USB-C connector, or even directly from the laptop power brick. The laptop is an Asus rog x 13 flow. If I am not wrong, in order to fast charge, your source has to support usb pd pps.
I'm sitting at work and my P6 charges just fine with a wall wart and a USB-A to USB-C cord. Not only that, but it's an LG wall wart that I have probably had since my LG G3 days (a long, long time ago). So even old power supplies will work.
If your phone isn't charging from a computer USB port, I suspect it is because of the amount of power being supplied by the laptop over the USB port. It's not a built in limitation of the phone however.
RiTCHiE007 said:
yes, your charger needs to support PD 3.0 PPS charging to get the fastest charging possible on the pixels
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what should I see under battery settings?
I see charging rapidly with my 30W charger. The Anker charger reads PPS but I am not entirely sure it's PD 3.
thanks!
derausgewanderte said:
what should I see under battery settings?
I see charging rapidly with my 30W charger. The Anker charger reads PPS but I am not entirely sure it's PD 3.
thanks!
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PPS is a standard that started with pd 3.0. Your charger is the correct one for fast charging.
so do we have any charger recommendations? the 3 i tried, after processing through AMERE, they are topping out at 15w-18w...
I just posted about one I think should work in another thread, should find out soon if I was right lol
Hi folks,
For the first time in the two+ weeks I've had my Pixel 6, I needed to make a call using my office headset, which is a 3.5mm jack headset. No problem; I have a USBC to 3.5mm jack adapter I used with my various OnePlus phones (a 3T and a 6T).
I plugged it in but it didn't work; there was a message that it was an incompatible device. How strange; it worked on a Samsung tablet that was USB-C.
Is there something unique about the Pixel adapters? It's not a BIG deal, as I just bought one on Amazon for $10, but I find it strange that my OP adapter doesn't work as it seems fairly generic.
The pixel adapters pinout is different to normal ones. That or google adapters need built-in DACs. The only other company that I know of which does this is HTC.
PhotonIce said:
The pixel adapters pinout is different to normal ones. The only other company that I know of which does this is HTC.
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Thanks for this. Hopefully I won't have other USBC surprises.
Oddly, one of my two apparently identical wall chargers won't work to charge this phone. One came with OP3T, one came with OP6T. Either can charge rapidly either of those phones. One in of them charges Pixel 6 (slowly) one of them won't charge it at all.
I got an Anker charger so I'm good, but this phone is a bit tweaky. I like it though.
Oneplus stream analogue audio via the type c port so just normal passive cable works fine. Pixel only streams digital audio so you need active cable with integrated digital to analogue converter (DAC) to work. Don't buy the apple one as it is too quiet on android.
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Hopefully I won't have other USBC surprises.
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I'm pleasantly surprised the Google adapter works as well as it does. Wired headphones and buds sound as good as ever.
Thanks for these insights, guys! I ordered the Google one and should be able to try it out on Wednesday. Now, I understand I needed a DAC instead of passive connection.
I had a htc u11 (basically an attempt at a cheaper pixel, it even had pixel software), it only worked with a htc adapter or a google one, thats how i know. another thing i noticed is that my oneplus 8 pro charger doesnt charge my htc u11, so again, i can confirm that some oneplus chargers will not charge pixel phones.
Frankenscript said:
Thanks for this. Hopefully I won't have other USBC surprises.
Oddly, one of my two apparently identical wall chargers won't work to charge this phone. One came with OP3T, one came with OP6T. Either can charge rapidly either of those phones. One in of them charges Pixel 6 (slowly) one of them won't charge it at all.
I got an Anker charger so I'm good, but this phone is a bit tweaky. I like it though.
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My 6t wall charger does not work either. However, my 6t USB c to USB a cord works for flashing via PC.
Just to cap this off, I wanted to point out that the wired bud style headset supplied by OP with my 6T works fine on the Pixel 6. That's part of my confusion... since the headset worked, I figured the headset adapter would use the same technology as the headset. But I guess that would be too easy. Apparently the headset I got uses DAC whereas the adapter was just a pass-through item.
Anyway, my Google adapter is due today from Amazon.
I have just tried my Samsung USB-C Headset Jack Adaptor on the Pixel with some AKG headphones and it seems to work fine.