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Hi, I just switched completely from iOS to Android after I while I used an iPhone and a Nexus 7 together. Now I replaced the iPhone with a Samsung Galaxy S4.
I'm pretty happy, but there are a couple of things I still completely grasp about how Android notifications work.
My first issue is related to *blocking mode* and Whatsapp. I have the same issue reported in this discussion.
It seems that the app can bypass Android notification system and relies on something else. Is that true? How can that happen?
I have another concern related to the use of vibration when sound is turned on. It seems that the system-wide settings refers only to phone calls, while for other notifications I have to rely on app-specific settings. Am I correct?
Taking for example facebook app, what would happen if I disable vibration and put the phone in silent mode? Will it vibrate?
Finally, I'd like to have a iOS-like notification list on the lock screen. So far I managed to get it for some applications (Messages, Whatsapp), but I'd really like to have some system-wide properties.
Generally speaking, can you please give me a link to Android documentation explaining what aspects of notifications it manages system-wide and what is responsibility of each application?
I'd really like to see as much as possible managed by the operating system, but from what I am experiencing it seems that it is exactly the other way round with a lot of settings left to the applications.
Blocking mode is a Samsung feature AFAIK. Maybe WhatsApp is using the media channel for notifications instead of the notifications channel? Not sure.
mariosangiorgio said:
Finally, I'd like to have a iOS-like notification list on the lock screen. So far I managed to get it for some applications (Messages, Whatsapp), but I'd really like to have some system-wide properties.
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Take a look at DashClock with one of the many extensions (e.g. AnyDash), NiLS Notifications Lock Screen, or any similar widget.
There's also Floating Notifications, which can show you (bubbles of) your notifications on your lockscreen.
Thanks for the links and for the hypothesis on Whatsapp notifications.
It seems that I have to choose either to have the pattern lock or to add multiple widgets. Am I right?
Is there any way to have both notifications and pattern lock?
I'm afraid pattern lock is again a Samsung specific feature so I'm a concerned about possible integration issues with other widgets.
What about the other question about system-wide vs per-app settings?
mariosangiorgio said:
Thanks for the links and for the hypothesis on Whatsapp notifications.
It seems that I have to choose either to have the pattern lock or to add multiple widgets. Am I right?
Is there any way to have both notifications and pattern lock?
I'm afraid pattern lock is again a Samsung specific feature so I'm a concerned about possible integration issues with other widgets.
What about the other question about system-wide vs per-app settings?
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Samsung disabled widgets with the secure lockscreen for some reason. There's an Xposed module to re-enable it, but you need the Xposed framework (and root).
I'm not sure about the vibration question.
My device is still not-rooted and I am not very keen on rooting.
I did some research and I found Popup Notifier (Sorry but I still can't post links to external websites) that seems what I need.
I'm going to try it and I'll let you know how it works.
mariosangiorgio said:
My device is still not-rooted and I am not very keen on rooting.
I did some research and I found Popup Notifier (Sorry but I still can't post links to external websites) that seems what I need.
I'm going to try it and I'll let you know how it works.
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Unfortunately it Popup Notifier is not what I was looking for. I'd like more to have an iOS-like list of notifications rather than popups.
It also felt a bit too hackish that I had to disable text to speech service and enable the app's accessibility service.
I have the feeling that they're misusing accessibility features as a workaround to access notification information.
I see that there are custom lockers. Is it possible to install them without rooting the device? If I install one of them would I be able to setup notifications as I like, add the pattern widget and leave the rest of the system as it is?
mariosangiorgio said:
Unfortunately it Popup Notifier is not what I was looking for. I'd like more to have an iOS-like list of notifications rather than popups.
It also felt a bit too hackish that I had to disable text to speech service and enable the app's accessibility service.
I have the feeling that they're misusing accessibility features as a workaround to access notification information.
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All applications need Accessibility to get the notifications' content, prior to Android 4.3, AFAIK. Or root.
mariosangiorgio said:
I see that there are custom lockers. Is it possible to install them without rooting the device? If I install one of them would I be able to setup notifications as I like, add the pattern widget and leave the rest of the system as it is?
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You can install custom lockscreens without root, but you'll also need Accessibility.
GermainZ said:
All applications need Accessibility to get the notifications' content, prior to Android 4.3, AFAIK. Or root.
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Did 4.3 introduce new APIs to let applications access notifications?
Is there any new app that already uses them? I'd like to try them on my Nexus 7 and then use one also on my S4 once Samsung releases the updated version of the system.
GermainZ said:
You can install custom lockscreens without root, but you'll also need Accessibility.
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Got it. Thanks again for your kind replies!
mariosangiorgio said:
Did 4.3 introduce new APIs to let applications access notifications?
Is there any new app that already uses them? I'd like to try them on my Nexus 7 and then use one also on my S4 once Samsung releases the updated version of the system.
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Applications can now use notification listeners, which allow them to detect new notifications (and when they're cleared) from an app. I think Floating Notifications uses it if you're on 4.3, but it's not exactly what you want.
Yes,unfortunately it's not what I'm looking for. I'll keep checking. I hope new app relying on the new features will be published soon
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I came across a few DashClock extensions which do that, although for specific apps. You might want to try a few and see if this is what you want.
Hangouts DashClock Extension
WhatsApp, Facebook, Viber and LINE (4 different extensions) by Tiger-Workshop
You'll need DashClock for these, of course.
Other than that, there's DynamicNotifications you might be interested in. Not quite what you're looking for, but it might do the trick for now.
DynamicNotifications seems very cool. I'll give it a try
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Just in case you don't read the portal, this DashClock extension does what you want by using the notification listener features, instead of Accessibility services.
Thanks for sharing the link! I'll give it a try. It is very promising
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I tried to use it on my S4 but I cannot set the widget.
This time I can't even disable the lock as I reported in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2472070
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Hi,
I've installed the Google Camera app for my Honor 7 and would like to change the camera shortcut on the lockscreen because it lauch the Honor/Huawei camera app.
I've searched in settings but can't find anything
Thanks !
Which android version are you using now??
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I'm on B371 EMIUI 4.0
iMaxime said:
Hi,
I've installed the Google Camera app for my Honor 7 and would like to change the camera shortcut on the lockscreen because it lauch the Honor/Huawei camera app.
I've searched in settings but can't find anything
Thanks !
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I don't quite understand your question. Do you want to put Google camera at your homescreen? or do you want to just change the icon of the Google camera?
Well if you want to do the first one, then you just have to drag and drop the icon at your homescreen, and if you want to do the latter one then you should install a third party launcher.
DigiGoon said:
I don't quite understand your question. Do you want to put Google camera at your homescreen? or do you want to just change the icon of the Google camera?
Well if you want to do the first one, then you just have to drag and drop the icon at your homescreen, and if you want to do the latter one then you should install a third party launcher.
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Hello Digigoon,
I would like to do the same as iMaxime.
We do not want to change icon in HOME screen, we would like to change application triggered by LOCK screen icon.
That is... we may not be able to have the fast picture feature in-build in Honor camera app, but we would be able to launch the third-party camera app from the lock screen. May be more complicated than that, but could you please help us? Is this even possible?
Cordially,
Xavi
XavierNovella said:
Hello Digigoon,
I would like to do the same as iMaxime.
We do not want to change icon in HOME screen, we would like to change application triggered by LOCK screen icon.
That is... we may not be able to have the fast picture feature in-build in Honor camera app, but we would be able to launch the third-party camera app from the lock screen. May be more complicated than that, but could you please help us? Is this even possible?
Cordially,
Xavi
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As far as I know, you can't do that with stock ROM (or any that isnt customizable on that way). You'll need to download a launcher or an app do costumize your lockscreen
joaomPT said:
As far as I know, you can't do that with stock ROM (or any that isnt customizable on that way). You'll need to download a launcher or an app do costumize your lockscreen
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Thanks!
XavierNovella said:
Thanks!
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You may try and freeze the native camera app and install the app you want. If there is no FC, then any shortcut will lead to Google Camera as it will be assumed as the default (only) camera app.
I´ve removed myself some useless system apps and some others just can´t be removed. Never tried camera.
Settings > Apps > Advanced > Default App Settings > Camera.
If you change it from there, doesn't it get changed from the lock screen?
produstoandaluz said:
Settings > Apps > Advanced > Default App Settings > Camera.
If you change it from there, doesn't it get changed from the lock screen?
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It does not work for me
iMaxime said:
Hi,
I've installed the Google Camera app for my Honor 7 and would like to change the camera shortcut on the lockscreen because it lauch the Honor/Huawei camera app.
I've searched in settings but can't find anything
Thanks !
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You can use a method described by Paul O'Brian but you will have to dig for it a bit.
I don't recall specifically but he used something like
pm.hide.something
To hide the native app and use the one you want. After that, it will use your custom app.
Tag him in the post and he can clarify more.
I'm using Oppo F1s running on ColorOS (android 5) with 3GB RAM. The ColorOS is very different from the others, although I allow my app (iWown Fit to control iWown Smartband) to notificate, but it always be closed from running background.
So I ask if there is anyway to keep the app running background (just 1 app that I need, not at all)
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Sorry for my bad English, hope you can understand and help me. Thx :crying:
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I'm using Oppo F1s running on ColorOS (android 5) with 3GB RAM. The ColorOS is very different from the others, although I allow my app (iWown Fit to control iWown Smartband) to notificate, but it always be closed from running background.
So I ask if there is anyway to keep the app running background (just 1 app that I need, not at all)
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Sorry for my bad English, hope you can understand and help me. Thx :crying:
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Go to settings then go to security settings and select data saving feature and enable it. It shows all installed apps. Allow apps that you want to run in background.
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Ashwinrg said:
Go to settings then go to security settings and select data saving feature and enable it. It shows all installed apps. Allow apps that you want to run in background.
If it helped. Please thank me[emoji3]
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So sorry that ColorOS seem like no setting like another normal Android :crying: This is a STUPID OS >"<
Tnx anyway bro, if you have any new idea please let me know
hero.npt95 said:
So sorry that ColorOS seem like no setting like another normal Android :crying: This is a STUPID OS >"<
Tnx anyway bro, if you have any new idea please let me know
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Go to recent tabs and see unlock icon [emoji356] on the left corner of the app tab and lock app that you want run in the background. You can do it by sliding down tab of the app.
Ashwinrg said:
Go to recent tabs and see unlock icon [emoji356] on the left corner of the app tab and lock app that you want run in the background. You can do it by sliding down tab of the app.
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I've tried that before, it just make app can't be close, but app don't run in the background. Now I know how to fix, that is a setting in Battery Setting
Thanks for help
Hi, I'm bought this phone recently and my previous one was a galaxy S5.
So when I moved to poco f1 a lot of features were missing so I have several problems:
1. I noticed that I can't see notifications (like whatsapp) in the notifications bar AND in the lock screen.
2. I can't open new folder in the launcher (only in the home screen).
3. notch disable.
Can I fix these problems somehow? (New rom?something else?)
please help me! I'm getting frustrated with this phone and I just bought it...
Thank you!
Israel315 said:
Hi, I'm bought this phone recently and my previous one was a galaxy S5.
So when I moved to poco f1 a lot of features were missing so I have several problems:
1. I noticed that I can't see notifications (like whatsapp) in the notifications bar AND in the lock screen.
2. I can't open new folder in the launcher (only in the home screen).
3. notch disable.
Can I fix these problems somehow? (New rom?something else?)
please help me! I'm getting frustrated with this phone and I just bought it...
Thank you!
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Get lineage/pixel experience, see if fits your needs
andrepgaspar said:
Get lineage/pixel experience, see if fits your needs
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I saw lineage, I liked this ROM, but it has this problems solved?
Israel315 said:
I saw lineage, I liked this ROM, but it has this problems solved?
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Yes for 1 and 3
Dont know for 2 but you get a laucher that alows that if the default one doesnt (I am on Pixel Experience so I can not check it)
Yeah Lineage OS fixes all the issues. You get notifications on the lockscreen and you get the icon for the first notification, after a 2nd notification comes in, it will change to a dot to show that you have multiple notifications. You can disable the notch by going to developer options and look for 'Simulate a display with a cutout' and select 'Hide'. I dont use the launcher that comes with it, I always install Nova Launcher, I've been using that launcher on all my phones for years. The free version is still very good, no need to buy the premium version. The included launcher with Lineage can probably handle folders normally, ive just never used it long enough to know if it does.
donk165 said:
Yeah Lineage OS fixes all the issues. You get notifications on the lockscreen and you get the icon for the first notification, after a 2nd notification comes in, it will change to a dot to show that you have multiple notifications. You can disable the notch by going to developer options and look for 'Simulate a display with a cutout' and select 'Hide'. I dont use the launcher that comes with it, I always install Nova Launcher, I've been using that launcher on all my phones for years. The free version is still very good, no need to buy the premium version. The included launcher with Lineage can probably handle folders normally, ive just never used it long enough to know if it does.
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Thank you very much, you helped me a lot!
thanks all the others!!!
Israel315 said:
Thank you very much, you helped me a lot!
thanks all the others!!!
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No problem
Hello!
I’m considering buying this phone and I’m heavily into customization, I have a few questions about what you can do to S10 Lite to personalize the experience and how far it’ll let me change things before I have to resort to root or custom ROMs that are risky and missing for now.
First, about the themes, I found two good customization apps for Samsung devices, Good Locks and #hex Installer, can you use together?
What’s the extent of their customization, using both or the best of them if you can only have one working, can you:
1. Have a custom accent color system wide? So the same color for toggles, volume slider, highlights, colored text, notifications, quick settings etc/ like on stock android?
2. Can you change quick settings buttons background shape?
3. Are you able to switch recents view to a vertical stack of cards with the clear button bottom center?
4. Can you change icons for individual apps with stock launcher?
5. Change the navigation bar height, button size and spacing between them?
6. I like two fonts, Ubuntu and Google Product Sans, is any of them available?
7. Where can I check Good Locks availability in my region? Also, can it become unavailable with updates?
8. Do 3rd party customization apps from play store work? Kwgt, Custom Volume Sliders, Custom Navigation Bar etc.?
Next, I have a few questions regarding general usability:
9. Can you get rid of google assistant/bixby? They can be installed, I just don’t want to ever see them or have them running when not launched.
10. Does the Always on Display work well, is it actually always on?
11. Can you have the AoD show 3rd party app icons with a notification counter?
12. Does it have any problems with 3rd party launchers, Nova specifically?
13. Have you tried the Non-root version of YouTube Vanced? Does it work without issues? Can you install it with MicroG and log in?
I’ve also heard that Samsung’s OneUI likes to kill apps and prevent them from running in the background.
14. Did you have any issues with widgets getting stuck, becoming unresponsive, not updating and not working properly in general because they get killed by the system, did you have any issues like this?
15. Did you have any problems with 3rd party app notifications? Are you getting notifications from 3rd party messaging, email and other apps? Do they still come in when the screen is locked and the phone is in deep sleep?
I’m sorry in advance, I know it’s a lot but I’m very used to having the phone set up my way and I don’t want to spend this kind of money only to have to immediately root it or put up with a phone that doesn’t work properly for me.
Lol.. This is huge. I'll reply to some.
7 Good lock is working fine. In my country is not available but no problem. You can download the apk, everything works. If you know what good lock can do, then most of your questions (1,2) are replied as you can change notifications colors etc, at least what good lock is letting you change. Also 3 yes, with good lock.
5 by changing dpi through developer setting you can shrink everything so shrink navigation bar. Other navigation bar apps also works.
8 kwgt etc working fine.
9 yes. Froze them and anythings else you want by package disabler pro app.
10 works fine. You select if you want it or not.
12 nova works fine. I actually can't answer about samsung launcher as i always use nova. If you use it, then most of your questions also being answered as you know what nova can do.
13 yes to all, i use it always. (I use the hacked completely black amoled version, not the gray one, last version).
14 I have a problem actually with 1 widget, eWeather. Is somehow change size some times, and when go to its nova page, it changes ok again.. But i haven't problems with any other.
15 I don't have any problem with notifications but phone is a bit strange. It has 2 deep sleep apps somehow and need to untick the apps you want to have notifications to both of them. It reminds me xiaomi
It is good as due to this probably it has amazing battery. But it is a bit aggressive i think. Some times i lost some notifications but it was probably my fault, I'm not sure. Anyway i don't think there is a problem there. But better have more answers to this.
My opinion is that the phone is fantastic especially in battery, but its all about what everyone needs more.
Perhaps my video there, the comment, some hacks, the description and xda link there may help you, read it. I updating everything useful i find by writing new comments there, so anyone interested check it by time to time. Most things i post there are working to most samsung phones.
https://youtu.be/VGiItteDcfw
Again, I can answer a few. Mine is completely stock (not rooted). I may have needed to change settings when I bought the phone, but I don't recall which ones.
9: I don't know about getting rid of the assistants, but I've never even noticed that they're present, so they're unobtrusive.
10: Yes, Always On Display does what you expect. I have mine set to switch off overnight, but that's entirely optional.
11: Yes, I get notification counters on things like Aquamail.
12: I've been using Nova since the day I bought it. No problems.
14/15: For context, I get annoyed by these kinds of issues, and I won't buy another Huawei phone for exactly these reasons. On the S10 Lite, as currently configured, I get all notifications and widgets update as expected (agenda, Google Keep etc.), so I'm happy enough. I had to turn off 'Adaptive Power Saving', 'Adaptive Battery' and 'Put unused apps to sleep' to achieve that, though, and I've added a number of apps to 'Apps that won't be put to sleep'.
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Lol.. This is huge. I'll reply to some
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Thank you very much guys! Your replies clarified a lot!
Did you/could you perhaps check if Good Locks and #hex Installer can be used together or if you have to pick one to customize the system?
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11: Yes, I get notification counters on things like Aquamail.
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I'm not sure if I worded it correctly in the OP so I fixed it now, but could you please clarify if this refers to the Always on Display?
Maranex said:
I'm not sure if I worded it correctly in the OP so I fixed it now, but could you please clarify if this refers to the Always on Display?
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Ah, sorry, misunderstood. I get 3rd party notification icons on the AOD but I've not seen a counter, I'm afraid.
Maranex said:
Thank you very much guys! Your replies clarified a lot!
Did you/could you perhaps check if Good Locks and #hex Installer can be used together or if you have to pick one to customize the system?
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Am using Finelock & #hex installer. There is no problem whatever.
sosimple said:
13 yes to all, i use it always. (I use the hacked completely black amoled version, not the gray one, last version).
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Hello, you could tell me where you found this version ? Or better, if you had a direct link please
Thank you
zenat said:
Hello, you could tell me where you found this version ? Or better, if you had a direct link please
Thank you
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https://mega4up.com/ih6eow8etf3e
https://forum.mobilism.org/viewtopic.php?f=429&t=3820892&hilit=YouTube
https://up-load.io/download.htmla
One of those should work i believe.
sosimple said:
https://mega4up.com/ih6eow8etf3e
https://forum.mobilism.org/viewtopic.php?f=429&t=3820892&hilit=YouTube
https://up-load.io/download.htmla
One of those should work i believe.
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Hello, I finally received my s10, so I tested the version you gave me, but, I must have missed something, it comes out in gray not in black
https://zupimages.net/viewer.php?id=20/40/16ns.jpg
zenat said:
Hello, I finally received my s10, so I tested the version you gave me, but, I must have missed something, it comes out in gray not in black
https://zupimages.net/viewer.php?id=20/40/16ns.jpg
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I don't understand why.. One file name has the word "black" so i dont think i mistaken the files..
Try setting, go to general, display, and then choose the black theme therel settings - vanced setting - display settings (or something like this, i translate from my language), and there is also a black theme setting there. Although i does think this is the problem..
Try also the new version here :
(The specific link it's not pirate or something, it is only for vanced hack)
https://forum.mobilism.org/viewtopic.php?f=429&t=3888296&hilit=Vanced
You must install no root, black arm64 version. I think you need sai application from playstore to install the file you will download.
sosimple said:
I don't understand why.. One file name has the word "black" so i dont think i mistaken the files..
Try setting, go to general, display, and then choose the black theme therel settings - vanced setting - display settings (or something like this, i translate from my language), and there is also a black theme setting there. Although i does think this is the problem..
Try also the new version here :
(The specific link it's not pirate or something, it is only for vanced hack)
https://forum.mobilism.org/viewtopic.php?f=429&t=3888296&hilit=Vanced
You must install no root, black arm64 version. I think you need sai application from playstore to install the file you will download.
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thank you it works perfectly with this version :good:
Hi.
I rooted my S10 lite and everything working fine but in settings - phone info I have wrong number model sm-a300f. How can I fix it? Could anyones send me build.prop, please?
Thank you.