has anyone tried swimming with the Amazfit Stratos 3?
any feedback on the Strokes count? plus other features
my Stratos 2 gives me a low stroke count of 25 strokes for 50m in 1mins plus a single random spike in the data recorded of 58 strokes for one lap in every one of my 1km swims for 20 laps
hopefully, it is solved in the new watch, otherwise will just continue using the Stratos 2 haha.
currently using the pause button for laps and resume to continue after a 30sec pause for each 50m lap.
I am also curious how the new startos 3 handle with swimming. I have Suunto Spartan Sport baro, and it works perfect when swimming, it only has weak vibrations
it's the same as on STRATOS 2, a pity no progress
Kt2019 said:
has anyone tried swimming with the Amazfit Stratos 3?
any feedback on the Strokes count? plus other features
my Stratos 2 gives me a low stroke count of 25 strokes for 50m in 1mins plus a single random spike in the data recorded of 58 strokes for one lap in every one of my 1km swims for 20 laps
hopefully, it is solved in the new watch, otherwise will just continue using the Stratos 2 haha.
currently using the pause button for laps and resume to continue after a 30sec pause for each 50m lap.
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it's the same as on STRATOS 2, a pity no progress
my 1st swim with stratos 3: In a 25m pool I swam all the time alternating freestyle, backstroke, breaststroke every lap in different swim type and I didn't stop. The distance is not good, I swam about 200-300 m more. The Stroke rate chart contains 0 values, which I think is wrong because I didn't stop. On the stroke rate chart the name of Y axis is wrong instead of BPM should be SPM. The title of the chart is Chinese, the name of the current stroke rate is also Chinese. On the pace chart the overlay data menu is also Chinese.
my 2nd swim: I expreienced the same, stratos 3 counted less laps as I really swam. E.g. after 4 laps it showses 3 laps.
I have bad experience, so inaccurate that it cannot be used.
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my 1st swim with stratos 3: In a 25m pool I swam all the time alternating freestyle, backstroke, breaststroke every lap in different swim type and I didn't stop. The distance is not good, I swam about 200-300 m more. The Stroke rate chart contains 0 values, which I think is wrong because I didn't stop. On the stroke rate chart the name of Y axis is wrong instead of BPM should be SPM. The title of the chart is Chinese, the name of the current stroke rate is also Chinese. On the pace chart the overlay data menu is also Chinese.
my 2nd swim: I expreienced the same, stratos 3 counted less laps as I really swam. E.g. after 4 laps it showses 3 laps.
I have bad experience, so inaccurate that it cannot be used.
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It was my failor, becouse I weared the watch on the other wrist as it was configured. The initial setup was made by my son, he configured it to wearing on right wrist. During the test written in my previous post I weared the watch on my left wrist. I tested it on my right wrist, in that case the watch was accurate, it counts the laps exactly.
swim menu
could you post a screen shot of the pool swim menu?
is there any option for connection of an external heart rate monitor, chest strap or polar OH1+ etc.
stratos 2 does not allow connection of heart rate accessories.
apparently Bluetooth signals don't travel well in water.
I think the stratos is very accurate when it comes to poolswimming, open water is a total mess!
Hello,
I can confirm that the GPS for outdoor swimming is a complete mess, however data HR/Strokes/distances, look ok apparently...
Surprisingly, GPS for "Paddles" outdoor activity on a lake worked fine either with GPS map it looks "almost" ok and not getting "crazy" like in swimming activity.
Other classic outdoor activities works fine, walk, run, cycling etc...
I'm using Startos3 with Everest2-4.0.20 custom ROM from Saratoga79 (my saver ) because 4.2.6.0 was a total mess on my side...
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Hello,
I can confirm that the GPS for outdoor swimming is a complete mess, however data HR/Strokes/distances, look ok apparently...
Surprisingly, GPS for "Paddles" outdoor activity on a lake worked fine either with GPS map it looks "almost" ok and not getting "crazy" like in swimming activity.
Other classic outdoor activities works fine, walk, run, cycling etc...
I'm using Startos3 with Everest2-4.0.20 custom ROM from Saratoga79 (my saver ) because 4.2.6.0 was a total mess on my side...
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4.2.6.0. is what I am ussing at the moment.
I think there are a few bugs in this ROM, hope they fix it asap.
With the last 2 swimsessions in 50m pool, Stratos 3 recorded perfect but the sync with Strava there was no distance in the upload, only the time recorded.
Hi, I'm using 4.2.8 and swimming is not accurate... When I swim 1000m the watch counts more than 1300m... Is there any way to make it measure HR? And EPOC? I usually jog and cycle but now I am swimming and my EPOC goes to zero...
Does the 4.2.5 measure the swimming better?
Is there a way to roll back to 4.2.5?
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Hi, I'm using 4.2.8 and swimming is not accurate... When I swim 1000m the watch counts more than 1300m... Is there any way to make it measure HR? And EPOC? I usually jog and cycle but now I am swimming and my EPOC goes to zero...
Does the 4.2.5 measure the swimming better?
Is there a way to roll back to 4.2.5?
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True, altough the poolswimming is accurate, it doesn't measure heartrate and doesn't calculate with epoc.
This watch gives it the feel that it wasn't finished when it arrives in the stores.
There is a lot work for the developers of amazfit, to solve al the bugs and shortcomings.
Doens't matter if it has 80 sports if doens't work... when it counts bad the distance, all the values are wrong...
Mine is already on sale... I'm going to buy a Garmin Fenix.
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Doens't matter if it has 80 sports if doens't work... when it counts bad the distance, all the values are wrong...
Mine is already on sale... I'm going to buy a Garmin Fenix.
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I understand, i mainly use this watch for running and swimming wich it does a accurate job.
EPOC is not a big issue for me altough i like to see that function working fine too.
My next watch wouldn't defenitely be an amazfit again.
SOLD IT. Never wanna see it again. Tired of problems and bugs... Bought a Garmin Fenix 5X Saphire. Until now it is perrrrrfect. When i swim it count the distance just perfect, notification perfect, gps tracking wonderfull. Battery is very good to and the screen is allways on as in the stratus.
And more: i can connect a lot of external sensores like HRM to swim, cadence sensor...
i have difficulty with my swimming data. the stratos 3 capture my swimming stroke and provide chart but when it sync with Zepp apps, no swimming stroke chart. i try to reset my zepp app, login back and sync with stratos 3, still do not have the swimming stroke chart.
i even try reset factory at my stratos 3 and did another swimming session buit still the same. can anyone suggest what to do next. my stratos 3 was in 4.2.8.0 version
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So I bought the pace model.
Did an interval workout on the treadmill, after I checked the app it measured 195 heartbeats/second. Which was nice and well becase i know thats where I end up at the end of those 4 minutes.
However, after that I did some strength training, and then finished off with some uphill walk on the treadmill where the treadmill measued 150 BPS, and my watch... 88 BPS. I know 150 is more accurate because my breath was around there.
After that, it hasnt been able to register anything over 110 BPS. Tried it for several workout sessions, still doesnt measure above 110. I tried factory reset.. doesnt change anything.
Someone else seen this?
I'm testing one amazfit and comparing with one garmin 630.
Amazfit measures correct just after 10 minutes of workout and then, after some minutes it measures wrong about a minute or two, and back to measure correct again.
Very bad algorithm.
Has nothing to do with bad algorithm.
Why do you guys think that there is no gym workout on the watch?
Because there is no known wrist hr sensor that is working correct for that.
Doing workouts means bending and flexing the wrist, which means that the sensor looses contact, which means inaccuracy .
And 90% of people that complain, have the sensor on a spot that is not really working.
Have seen very hairy guys complaining or people that have the watch "between the hand and the bone".
And make sure it is tight.
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I checked the app it measured 195 heartbeats/second.
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Holy crap, 195 beats PER SECOND!!?!! How are you still alive? Are you The Flash? Or possibly some kind of super smart hummingbird with an xda account (that would be cool).
Jokes aside, I also find the HRM on the Pace problematic.
It seems to work ok when you do "check now" as long as you stay still and its on tight. But whenever I use continuous HRM or do an activity like biking the reading seems to be about 20+ bps too high.
For example, I did "check now" just before a bike ride and got 65bpm, then again right after the ride and got 104bpm, but the bike activity recorded a starting heart rate of 84bpm and an ending rate of 134bpm.
yeah, sometimes my watch seems to measure my heart rate correctly, but other times it shows quite strange results.
I just finished indoor cycling workout. I used together Suunto Ambit watch with HR strap and Amazfit Pace. Amazfit HR data is useless. Here is merged image with both graphs.
Amazfit was tight, and my hand didn't moved to much. I tried several times to move hand on different positions to check is there any improvement, but without change.
Here is paralel graph (top is Suunto, bottom is Amazfit)
sometimes when physical exertion increases (when I go up a slope, for example) the heart beats are reduced.
The HR sensor in the pace seems about as accurate as someone guessing your heart rate from across the room.
Yes the bip is the same.
Absolute ****.
I've compared it with Polar watch + chest strap. There were differencies in the meassured pulse, however the average pulse for the trainings was very close on both devices. What is important for Peace, it has to be fastened very tightly on the wrist.
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I have compared Amazit Pace (1.3.6d) with Garmin Chest Strap HR monitor and FR235 doing Interval training running, and to FR235 optical HR monitior doing indoor biking.
In both activities Amazit Pace worked inestable the first 10 min then worked showing nearly same HR thank Strap HR and optical HR monitors.
Amazfit Pace showed a sudden decrease in HR reading about the middle of activities (about 1 hour each) and then back to proper reading.
In summary, Amazfit Pace uses about 10 min to have proper HR values, and sometimes during the activity has sudden decreases in HR reading.
For the rest of activity it performs quite well.
but you know that you can pair amazfit with a heart rate monitor strap, for example Polar H7?
This is about the Pace, and that can't be paired with a strap.
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This is about the Pace, and that can't be paired with a strap.
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oh, ok, i was talking about Stratos
heart rate sensor go crazy
I have the pace model too
sometimes (recently with more frequency) the heart rate sensor go crazy
yesterday, when i did an Indoor Run, he show the alert: "heart rate too low: 75", seconds after this, he show: "heart rate too high: 185", seconds after: "heart rate too low: 81", "heart rate too high: 172", etc etc.
Someone else seen this?
Someone know how to fix it?
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I have the pace model too
sometimes (recently with more frequency) the heart rate sensor go crazy
yesterday, when i did an Indoor Run, he show the alert: "heart rate too low: 75", seconds after this, he show: "heart rate too high: 185", seconds after: "heart rate too low: 81", "heart rate too high: 172", etc etc.
Someone else seen this?
Someone know how to fix it?
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Is the watch brand new? Do you sweat a lot? Check the cover of the HR sensor, some people that had used the watch while bathing/showering had problem with the cover getting loose.
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Is the watch brand new? Do you sweat a lot? Check the cover of the HR sensor, some people that had used the watch while bathing/showering had problem with the cover getting loose.
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I bought my pace in Feb/18 (3 months ago)
my sweat is near to zero
never bath/shower using it
the pace work well until one week ago, when i need to do a factory reset because something was draining the battery too fast (one charge in one night)
after the reset, the battery issue has gone, and the watch work well until yesterday (when the HR sensor issue start)
thinking about do one more factory reset... :fingers-crossed:
just to illustrate: HR (red) x Cadence (blue)
alexhan said:
I have the pace model too
sometimes (recently with more frequency) the heart rate sensor go crazy
Someone know how to fix it?
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Same issue here, with every Rom update HR accuracy gets worse in Sports activities. Continuous HR monitor seems accurate when compared to my chest strap, but goes haywire and at least 50% off true when in Run Indoor and Cycle indoor. Elliptical seems to be accurate at least some of the time. Have factory reset many times but nothing seems to help.
Yesterday I realized that with new ROM update, Peace have option to connect to other Bluetooth sensor(s).
I tested it and it with cheap 20$ Bluetooth sensor and works nice.
Hi all,
as the name says - how is your experience with swimming with Amazfit Stratos?
Stratos looks great - but looks is not all that matters.
Regards
Hi!
I'm also very interested in swimming mode!
So far I found only a very detailed faq.
I'm not allowed to post url, so you may search amazfit 2 faq on Google.
It should bring you to amazfitcentral.com faq for amazfit 2.
See §85.
It gives information about what we should expect from swimming mode.
Despite this I found no reviews of sports functions.
So many unboxing videos, showing the box...( Seriously? Who choose a watch because of the box??), all videos shows similar stuffs, but no details about sports modes
I just know that the screen will turn off in water. The FAQ only says that in swimming mode one has to set rows manually. I do not think HR, GPS or even strokes will work in water. Anyway is there a general sports program for doing workouts? The training features is really a thing what is making me interessted in this watch. Firstbeats training load, recovery time advisor and so on, one can only find in really expensive Garmin watches or similar in the Polar M430. The cons is the size. I guess it is 50mm in diameter which is huge. Mostly too huge for 24/7. Also I don't know if I would trust Chinese in sports. They never do sports. Trust me I lived there.
All the so called reviews are just made by some silly guys never really used the watch. Doing it just for the kickback of some chinese store. Not trustworthy.
Hi!
As far as I have seen, the screen does not turn off in water.
There are some videos showing the watch in water (not a pool, just some kind of large glass, not sure of english word for that).
Only the touchscreen is disabled and it's not surprising. You can use the buttons instead of touchscreen to navigate while in water. I guess that's why there are buttons.
Regarding the FAQ, it says much more than set the row manually, copy paste:
85. Swimming function
Watch support swimming pool and open water swimming two modes.
Swim terminology
Lane Length: The length of your swimming pool. The watch will calculate the swimming data based on the lane length you set.
Set the corresponding lane length for each pool change so that the watch can accurately evaluate your swimming data.
Trip: Swim in swimming pool swimming pool length of a lane.
Paddling: wearing a watch for a complete paddling action.
Paddling rate: the number of paddles per minute.
DPS: Complete a full stroke of the water.
SWOLF: SWOLF is an important indicator of swimming scores, which is equivalent to your comprehensive evaluation of swimming speed. SWOLF for pool swimming mode = single trip (in seconds) + number of single trips. SWOLF in open water swimming mode is calculated as 100 meters. The smaller the number, the better the efficiency of swimming.
86. Swimming recognition
The watch will recognize the swimmer’s posture in swimming mode.
Freestyle swimming
breaststroke
Backstroke
Butterfly stroke
mixing
87. Touch screen in swimming
To prevent misunderstanding and water interference with the touch screen, the watch will be closed after the start of the touch screen touch function. At this point through the watch button motion control, after the end of the watch will restart the touch screen function.
Regarding HR and GPS in water, no idea....
-as far as I know, GPS is not good underwater and in a pool, it's much more accurate to count lenghts than GPS.
-HR: I heard some works in water (with reduced accuracy), no idea for the amazfit 2, that's why I wait so much for a swimming pool review .
Regarding the so called review... well I agree, and they are not really "review", only unboxing and show a couple of stuff (very very little)...there are maybe 100 videos like this, all showing the same. Those guys drive me mad: This watch has a very new feature compare to amazfit pace: this 50m resist + swimming mode... and they do videos with 20sec reviewing...the box, nothing on sports modes
Thank you for the information. I meant touch turning off in water, which is actually a good thing.
The Chinese version 2.0.8 in the pool is very bad.
English version 2.0.7.5 from Nicola Sagliano works in the pool super! Correctly considers the number of swimming pools that I swam, time, calories, swimming style and other parameters. In the water, only the buttons work. The screen works in this mode constantly.
GPS in the indoor pool does not work. For open water there is a separate regime. His name was
Swimming
phnikola said:
Hi all,
as the name says - how is your experience with swimming with Amazfit Stratos?
Stratos looks great - but looks is not all that matters.
Regards
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Hi, I took my Stratos at pool swimming 8 times and result is> I am not very satisfied with watches.
Swim.
1. Firmware 2.0.8.0 tries to round up meters and pools. That is logical because It is a way you usually swim at pool.
2. Firmware 2.0.7.5 does not round up pools and meters at pool mode.. It does. The last pool is added when saving or resuming session.
3. Both firmwares have problem with first pool (graph of pace and trash starts around zero (= nonsense) and complicates graph reading because Y axis is then not very detailed at the point of interest)
4. Firmware 2.0.8.0 can correctly count last pool. With 2.0.7.5 you must start at least one more pool to count the last one. It does. The last pool is added when saving or resuming session.
5. The measuring one time crashed when saving data with notice that sport application crashed. The session was not recovered and all measured data was lost (very bad coding of Xiaomi team).
6. Watches does not measure kicked pools. (Pools swim without hands). That is normal.
7. Due to inaccuracy of measured pool counts and problematic first pool are counted trash and pace values only informational.
8. It is unable to edit measured data so you cannot add kicked pools or correct bad readings.
At pool mode does not work GPS and heart rate sensor. That is normal.
Run (Firmware 2.0.7.5).
1. Very inaccurate GPS readings when run around 8 stories buildings.
2. Due to point 1 the measured distance differs from measured at Google maps about 10 % (3.1 km instead 3.4 km).
3. Due to point 3 all calculated values dependent on distance are nonsenses (speed, kCals, strides, TE, VO2max, EPOC).
Notices.:
Watches CPU is really weak and that causes problems with application starts (e.g. swimming) or lags when scrolling or screen listing. It is not so bad as described.
Coding of sports applications is really bad. When application crashes all data are gone. Sports application does not make recovery saves (at least swimming).
Watches e.g. do not sum counted steps after factory reset etc. Watches saves only higher value from measured before or after factory reset.
There is a bad sync between watches and phone app. Watches shows different sum mileage from phone app after crash of sport app at watches.
You cannot add or correct measured data, that leads to e.g. watches counts only 26 50m pools and do not calculates 14 kicked pools and that results in very low training load.
Tom
Thank you for sharing your experiences!
8 story high buildings are always a big problem without GLONASS. I guess Stratos doesn't have GLONASS.
Hopefully the crashes will be fixed on final firmware.
I agree it is a must that workouts can be edited in the companion app and then synced back to the watch. Cannot be so difficult to implement.
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Thank you for sharing your experiences!
8 story high buildings are always a big problem without GLONASS. I guess Stratos doesn't have GLONASS. [...]
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Polar V800 does not have glonass and records perfect track no matter of high buildings, deep forest or mountains.
Hi! and Tom: many thanks for this very detailed feedback !! :good::good::good::good::good:
I have a few comments/questions:
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3. Both firmwares have problem with first pool (graph of pace and trash starts around zero (= nonsense) and complicates graph reading because Y axis is then not very detailed at the point of interest)
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I'm not sure to catch the meaning of 1st pool: do you mean 1st pool lenght or 1 swimming session ?
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4. Firmware 2.0.8.0 can correctly count last pool. With 2.0.7.5 you must start at least one more pool to count the last one.
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I have read a few weeks ago a review of several watch for swimming (not the amazfit 2).
It was suggested that pool lenght counting is based on 2 things to be catched by sensors:
- "shock" detection when hitting the wall.
- "pushing" when going back to other direction.
So for accurate count of last lenght, it was recommanded to make sure to "hit" the wall correctly with the arm that has the watch. and also to start a "last push" back on the wall, like for starting a new lenght (and then you can stop).
Not very natural but....
It was also a good idea to make sure to hit the wall with the hand with watch and make a good push at every lenghts to improve reliable counting.
dolezelt said:
6. Watches does not measure kicked pools.
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I think I lack some english here: what is a kicked pool ?
dolezelt said:
7. Due to inaccuracy of measured pool counts and problematic first pool are counted trash and pace values only informational.
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I understood 1st and last pool lenght may be miscounted, but it is ok for the others in between ?
because, let's say if I do 40 lenghts, I may not be a very big inaccuracy if only 1 or 2 are missing ?
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At pool mode does not work GPS and heart rate sensor. That is normal.
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Some HR sensor does work (more or less accurate)...so I'm not sure it's "normal" even if it's also common that many HR sensors does not work in water.
I have a stratos, I have been swimming 2 times with bass and the length counts very well, you do not have to bounce the hand on which the watch is. The screen is always on and locked, buttons are working.
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Hi! and Tom: many thanks for this very detailed feedback !! :good::good::good::good::good:
I have a few comments/questions:
I'm not sure to catch the meaning of 1st pool: do you mean 1st pool lenght or 1 swimming session ?
I have read a few weeks ago a review of several watch for swimming (not the amazfit 2).
It was suggested that pool lenght counting is based on 2 things to be catched by sensors:
- "shock" detection when hitting the wall.
- "pushing" when going back to other direction.
So for accurate count of last lenght, it was recommanded to make sure to "hit" the wall correctly with the arm that has the watch. and also to start a "last push" back on the wall, like for starting a new lenght (and then you can stop).
Not very natural but....
It was also a good idea to make sure to hit the wall with the hand with watch and make a good push at every lenghts to improve reliable counting.
I think I lack some english here: what is a kicked pool ?
I understood 1st and last pool lenght may be miscounted, but it is ok for the others in between ?
because, let's say if I do 40 lenghts, I may not be a very big inaccuracy if only 1 or 2 are missing ?
Some HR sensor does work (more or less accurate)...so I'm not sure it's "normal" even if it's also common that many HR sensors does not work in water.
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Hi.
1. Look at the attached picture. Thrash speed starts with zero and every time you pause session trash speed drops to 0. This is problem for calculated average trash speed because is lower than real average one. At the pace graph is a problem with one speed drop (I paused session about 2 sec after finishing pool). This made a great speed drop and Y axis is than not very detailed at the point of interest. Y axis should be from 2 mins to 1 min 14 sec. That speed drop should be cut out. I think that first sec of swimming should be cut out.
2. Pool counting. I made some test and I must say that watches count pools correctly. The last pool is added when session is saved or immediately after session resume on 2.0.7.5 firmware.
Example: After finishing 20th pool and pausing session watches shows only 19 pools. When session is saved (ended) or resumed pool counts is corrected to 20.
3. Kicked pool.... I meant pool that was swimmed without hands only with kicking legs.
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5. I think that is normal that HR optical sensor does not work at pool. I think that Garmin Fenix also does not measure HR when swimming.
Hi, thanks again for added information! :good:
3- ahhh I see . Sorry I can more or less speak general English but don't have the "technical" words around swimming.
I also just noticed it's "thrash" and not "trash" which was confusing
5- I have seen on a suunto page "ACCURACY OF WRIST-BASED HEART RATE MEASUREMENT" :they write " The optical sensor may not provide accurate heart rate readings for swimming activities."
So to me they mean it may work but not accurate..
Also a couple of sources told me that the apple watch can do it.
So I guess it depends on watch....
I also read some watch just disable it while swimming (to avoid showing inconsistent data)
How do you do gym training? I cannot find any sports profile for it.
Hi,
Check the faq on amazfitcentral.com, it's a mine of information!
Sports mode are jogging, running, walking, cross country running, indoor running, outdoor riding, indoor riding, elliptical machines, mountaineering, swimming in the swimming pool, open water swimming, triathlon.
I cannot post links for the moment (noob on xda), but you can Google it.
Justinbridou said:
Hi,
Check the faq on amazfitcentral.com, it's a mine of information!
Sports mode are jogging, running, walking, cross country running, indoor running, outdoor riding, indoor riding, elliptical machines, mountaineering, swimming in the swimming pool, open water swimming, triathlon.
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I already checked this out. But still there is no cardio, gym training or yoga profile. I do not need rep counting nor weight plans. Just time and pulse. I guess elliptical is counting steps. I mean ppl who are doing running, cycling or swimming are doing gym, training as well as part or their training plan. It must be possible to track this exercises.
Anyone who test diving into the pool or sea ,not over 10 M.
I want to know it that can measure the distance or not.
Thank in advance.
TuM
SteffenBerlin said:
I already checked this out. But still there is no cardio, gym training or yoga profile. I do not need rep counting nor weight plans. Just time and pulse. I guess elliptical is counting steps. I mean ppl who are doing running, cycling or swimming are doing gym, training as well as part or their training plan. It must be possible to track this exercises.
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Elliptical and indoor cycling do not count steps, only time, heart rate and calories (based on heart rate). For gym, you can use any of these.
Alex
Hello. Can a swimmer that has stratos make a list of all the parameters that are measured during the swimming training?
Hi there!
I have a question, English is not my mother language and I 'm not sure of exact meaning of what the watch reports.
Does anybody could explain me the meaning of : pace, stroke, DPS and trips (as measured by the watch).
By the way, just received it, I may have a chance to swim with it next Friday.
I open this post because I haven't been able to find any review or opinion about one of the functionalities that offers Stratos: Skiing.
Has anyone try it and can share his or her experiencie?
I am interested mainly if it is able to dismiss the skilifts automatically on Alpine ski.
I assume it can measure speed, hear rate, and the other normal variables that are shared with running.
Any experience?
As well I am interested to know if for long multi-day hiking trips the battery would resist with the GPS active? (like 12hours sport tracking?)
In general, it would be good to know the tracking difference between one sports mode or the others
Last weekend I just made a long hike and starting with full battery and with GPS on of course, it recorded all my 11 hours hike. At the end, the battery was at 12%
I have just returned from a 400+km hike where I used the Stratos constantly. With an average of 7h of hiking I got 3 full days of battery life: Bluetooth on, sleep tracking but obviously internal HR sensor off during activities and outside.
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I have just returned from a 400+km hike where I used the Stratos constantly. With an average of 7h of hiking I got 3 full days of battery life: Bluetooth on, sleep tracking but obviously internal HR sensor off during activities and outside.
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What about the readings on altitude? Looks pretty inaccurate in the reviews and it's a very important metric when hiking.
Does anyone else have any feedback on the "Skiing" mode please? I am also interested in this mode, and whether it automatically detects travel on the ski lift. Thanks.
Stratos skiing mode
Just used my stratos for a couple of days skiing and am pretty disappointed in the results. Firstly the altitude readings are pretty inaccurate, out by more than 10% in some cases. Amizfit support responded with the following "The altitude error is greatly affected by the environment.
Due to environmental factors, the error may reach tens of meters or even hundreds of meters." So even though this is a metric that is important to skiing dosn't look like it can be improved.
Secondly, yes it looks like the watch does stop recording during lift travel and start again during a downhill run. This is what I noticed when I looked at my tracks. There was the odd lift travel that may have been a bit downhill that got recorded as a lap but most of the laps were actual runs. I even looked at my watch at the end of a run/lap and noticed that it recorded the downhill distance and descent for that lap. When I started riding the lift these results cleared and the watch was ready for the next run/lap. So this is were the good news stops. Even though I was under the impression that the watch was recording all this great individual lap information when I tried to see my results in the evening on my phone app most of my metrics were all combined into totals. For example total laps, total downhill km, total descent and total time. The only metrics listed per lap/run is max speed which is good and the time each lap ended, which is useless becuase it includeds lift waiting and riding time.
It is sad as I believe the watch has been designed and is capable of gathering detailed information but the phone apps inability to present this information totally ruins a potentialy good product. At the moment I would not recommend this watch for skiing. Go back to using your phone and any of several free ski tracking apps.
Many thanks for the detailed feedback. I used the Skiing mode on my Pace a few months ago and found it almost useless because it didn't detect travel on the skl iift and treated it as part of the ski run, thus totally ruining the data it collected.
So it meant I had to take my glove off to manually start and stop the Pace (since it doesn't have buttons like the Stratos), which of course means digging under the sleeve of your ski jacket and fleece, and then adjusting the clothes back. Doing this at the start and stop of every run is a big hassle when you're with a group of people. It's not worth it.
I don't think I checked the altitude accuracy, so I can't comment on that. I also couldn't work out how to use the 'lap' function. It treated every run I did as the first lap, even if it was a repeat run on the same slope.
Amazfit still doesn't seem to have any instructions for this mode.
I bought a Stratos to replace my amazfit bip and playing soccer, my stratos show around 185 bpm. It's impossible such reading. My old bip never showed more than 150 bpm (using treadmill as activity).
Is this sensor so bad? Can be improved in future updates?
As test I compared it to my fitbit and garmin and al readings are quite the same in workout and rest/sleep.
If I have a sprint or Hiit training my heart rate can spike to 190bpm. So 185 is possible depending on your workout.
Make sure your watch has the latest firmware, reset its data (factory reset then do not restore old data when pairing again) and use continuous HR for at least 24h and it should works a little better. Unfortunately the PPG sensor used in both Pace and Stratos isn't the best one around...
Hi Vogal , I'm experiencing the same as you.
I had a Bip for a year and a half. In the beginning HR was always 20 beats too low. If I wore in on the inside of my wrist, it was almost perfect.
I recieved my Stratos yesterday, it updated itself 3 times, even to the latest 2.3.8 that was released yesterday. I unpaired, rebooted, repaired, but didn't factory reset. HR is ALSO 20-30 beats to high. When standing still, measurement is perfect. But when moving, it's awful. On both watches.
Did you do a factory reset? Did it help?
My stratos HR works fine in spinning and elliptical machine. I compared it with another hr monitor with chest strap and both show very similar values. The problem is in outdoor activity like MTB. Here the stratos seems not realize about peaks of exercise and It always shows moderate values below 150 when the chest strap gives me values over 165. I tried tighting it more and different positions on my wrist but without any read improvement.
People, Pace/Stratos/Verge use a PPG sensor, it will never be accurate if you move your wrist/arm a lot, it is specially true when riding a bike... If HR accuracy is needed, use an external HR band.
The problem isnt the Stratos
Vogal said:
I bought a Stratos to replace my amazfit bip and playing soccer, my stratos show around 185 bpm. It's impossible such reading. My old bip never showed more than 150 bpm (using treadmill as activity).
Is this sensor so bad? Can be improved in future updates?
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The problem isnt the Stratos, its de Bip. I had one and never gave me the same value of the HR mesure of the running machine, also I tried with an Apple watch in other wirst and both, the running machine (also the eliptical) and the apple show me the same HR but the Bip was allways 30-40 beats lower
Hi guys,
I just got my new Amazfit GTR and noticed strange behavior of heart rate monitor. It shows values even if the device is not on my wrist. I left the device on the table for more than hour and any time I looked on main screen there was heart rate value and it was also changing the values. So it wasn't just last value stuck. I tried to run exercise activity while leaving device on the table and it was showing heart rate as well. Not all the time but sometimes there was value and sometimes not. So is the device faking heart rate values? Is it normal behavior?
It is how PPG sensors work, they use the reflected light to estimate the number of beats. Search the internet for more info.
Well, I have another watch with PPG sensor but they don't show nothing when they are not on wrist.
So it will probably not be about sensor type. In this case they for example report my rest heart rate during the night even if they lay next to me on the table so the values will be completely faked.
The sensor works that way, but other devices may use *other* sensors to disable the reading when they detect the watch isn't being used, the accelerometer for instance.
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The sensor works that way, but other devices may use *other* sensors to disable the reading when they detect the watch isn't being used, the accelerometer for instance.
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HEyy,
- Also got 2 other product with the same comportment `` Fitbit Charge Hr ´´ and `` Fitbit Blaze ´´ , both detect when they are not in the wrist. Why doen's GTR do the same?
- Also both got more accuracy in Heart rate measurments...Because they are doing it consistently. With Amazfit GTR i only can program it to do it 1min in 1min. Already change it with Notify & Fitness. nothing seems to change....
- Another outburst from my side : heart rate scale doen't save scores higher than 180 BTM !
Are some of them just software issues ?
Regards to all
The heart beat sensor on the GTR is utter garbage. It does indeed fake heart beat results. Also the sleep analysis functionality is totally broken.
Just got my GTR and the heart rate monitoring is way off. Always some 20 to 35 Beats above the real one. As I have some hair I tried it in my finger and in my belly with the same wrong results. The firmware version is 1.3.4.19 which was updated immediately after first turn on. In contrast the free Android app I use is pretty accurate. I will still test the GPS.
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Just got my GTR and the heart rate monitoring is way off. Always some 20 to 35 Beats above the real one. As I have some hair I tried it in my finger and in my belly with the same wrong results. The firmware version is 1.3.4.19 which was updated immediately after first turn on. In contrast the free Android app I use is pretty accurate. I will still test the GPS.
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I returned the GTR and got another one from another vendor and it has the same problem. I can now say that the heart rate monitoring in the GTR is useless, just a boring toy.
Amazfit admits that the heart rate monitor is "prone to inaccuracies" in its faq: https://support.amazfit.com/us/faq/839
As the heart rate sensor is basically a pulse oximeter which monitors the perfusion of blood to the dermis, it’s prone to inaccuracies.That’s because skin perfusion — a measure of how much blood flows through your skin-varies significantly from person to another. Especially the ones who have dark skin, hairy wrists, tattoo, and scar.
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Amazfit admits that the heart rate monitor is "prone to inaccuracies" in its faq: https://support.amazfit.com/us/faq/839
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Oddly enough I have found the heart rate monitor to be remakably accurate if worn correctly and over the range 60-110. A few moments ago I confirmed previous results and while the watch showed 91 bpm a simultaneous ECG showed 90 bpm. The problem I have with the HR monitor is that it seems, when the cpu is stressed, to produce crazy results. To get around this I run exercise from the phone and get sensible results from the HR monitor. I might add that I was cooling down after exercise!
Well seems I am testing today. Had the watch about 2 days. I am guessing the watch does NOT show the current temperature? Like that matters. The GPS took about 45-60 seconds to connect, as others had. Seem to do faster NOT on wrist. Now my heart-rate monitor works really good. Tested it and I when I got 86 the watch got 85. did it again I got 84 thee watch got 85. Now I did take it off put it on the rubber mat and it kept going up to about 96 lol Put on my keyboard( light on top of keys) it went down to 40. Yet on my wrist works really good.