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Hey guys, new to all this so go easy on me. Over the past few years I have become a bit of a tech fanatic. I like to get a phone, use for a few months then sell on while it retains value. I'm March I got the S9 Plus coming from a Note 8 and from that coming from an S8 Plus. I love Samsung through heaven and earth but have become slightly bored with their design and UI. I have been strongly considering the Huawei P20 Pro and the OnePlus 6. Can I have your thoughts please? I have read/watch so many reviews on the P20 Pro and it's seems amazing the lag is the main issue as I do now want it. I don't game, I use a phone for emails, text, whatsapp, web browsing, Twitter, Instagram etc. ?
Why not ask in those forums? This is the Galaxy S9+ forums.
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Sorry its only because I have a S9+. I'm new to this go easy haha!
Since this is the S9+ forums.... Keep the S9+?
Note 9.
Oyeve said:
Note 9.
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Agreed, definitely this over the OP6 or P20
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If you are bored of s9 plus UI then undoubtedly you would definitely get bored of Huwawei's EMUI(yup, has bit of lags as well) and Note 9 UI will be the same as S9 plus(with slightly added refinement of samsung experience) . So as per your question and requirement, you are left with OP6. OxyGenOS is a well thought - out one with some nifty features. The OTAs bring bug sometimes but overall its a, fast fluid experience without bells and whistles.
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If you are bored of s9 plus UI then undoubtedly you would definitely get bored of Huwawei's EMUI(yup, has bit of lags as well) and Note 9 UI will be the same as S9 plus(with slightly added refinement of samsung experience) . So as per your question and requirement, you are left with OP6. OxyGenOS is a well thought - out one with some nifty features. The OTAs bring bug sometimes but overall its a, fast fluid experience without bells and whistles.
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Except coming from an S9 plus the OP6 is missing some key features.
Sd card slot.
Ip68 rating
Wireless charging
Stereo speakers (although there is a mod for this).
Sure the device is cheaper and some may not care about those features but once you have grown accustomed to them very difficult to give up!
For example, me i dont really care about the IP68 rating but will not purchase any device without the other 3 listed.
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force70 said:
Except coming from an S9 plus the OP6 is missing some key features.
Sd card slot.
Ip68 rating
Wireless charging
Stereo speakers (although there is a mod for this).
Sure the device is cheaper and some may not care about those features but once you have grown accustomed to them very difficult to give up!
For example, me i dont really care about the IP68 rating but will not purchase any device without the other 3 listed.
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True. Had the OP asked for a comparison I could go on and on including your points. But it seems he is bored of Samsung UI, design and trying to choose in bet^n P20 Pro and OnePlus 6. Also based on his additional requirements, I can assure that he would get a pleasant experience with the OP6.
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True. Had the OP asked for a comparison I could go on and on including your points. But it seems he is bored of Samsung UI, design and trying to choose in bet^n P20 Pro and OnePlus 6. Also based on his additional requirements, I can assure that he would get a pleasant experience with the OP6.
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In all honesty if the OP6 red version had 256gb of storage id likely pick one up myself just for the experience lol.
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force70 said:
In all honesty if the OP6 red version had 256gb of storage id likely pick one up myself just for the experience lol.
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Dbrand Red Dragon as rescuer....?
I wish OnePlus borrowed the meaning of red from Samsung(Burgundy).
Virgo_Guy said:
Dbrand Red Dragon as rescuer....?
I wish OnePlus borrowed the meaning of red from Samsung(Burgundy).
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I don't like the Samsung colour, OP got it right the device looks amazing
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Why won't you just install another launcher on the S9+? That should give you plenty of options to configure how the phone looks. Not all will change of course, but how many time do you spend in the phone's menu's
I had the Mate 10 Pro and P20, had issues with screen dimming on both phones on most all apps, great phones aside from the screen dimming. The screen would dim a couple of seconds after launching any app.
This bothered me to the point of switching to the S9 Plus, if you want a phone that works like its supposed to the S9 is it. Nothing beats the Samsung screens and design. It just works...
I had Mate10 non pro (now stolen, it was a fine Phone, but cam was not naturally for people.).
After them, my old Oneplus 3 (happy with Miui ROM),
then a Xiaomi MiA1 (boring stock Android), then MiMix2s (really good phone, but missing Netflix HD. For me Netflix HD is Import cuz i have 1:10h Train every day).
Now i got the S9+, this is the best package and also the best compromisse!
I've been also a true Samsung user for a long time and getting kinda tired of limitless samsung features and services that prevent the phone from being super snappy and eat up batterytime. Flashed Resurrection Remix ROM on the G-965F and it gave a complete different feeling i.e. near and dear to my liking but still not found a cam mod that works in portrait mode. Rooting, flashing ROMs and the like don't come without sacrifices.:cyclops:
Owning both G-965F and G-9650 models for months now and Pixel 3 XL/OnePlus 6T are in my wish-bucket list.
I had the P20 Pro and sold it mostly because I could get the S9+ for 400$ new. It has its fair share of quirks....It is noticeable laggier than the S9+ and the camera was not great when just trying to point and shoot. You could take great photos with it, but you had to fiddle with it every time to get the shot right.
The battery life is absolutely phenomenal though. The battery could easily last me 2 days. Huawei also has the same problem as Samsung though, and it is a big one for me, updating in a timely fashion.
I am waiting for the Oneplus 6t and Pixel 3 XL and will most likely be switching to one of those and giving the S9+ to my son when I do.
I need to buy a phone soon. Wife cracked her screen and I will be giving her my mate 9 that I've been pretty happy with.
So I'm looking to buy either a mate 10 pro which is $470 on Amazon or the new OP6T. I've tried both of them out and the 6T is looking very sexy and modern but I reckon that feeling will wear off in a few days. I feel like the 10 pro may have better battery and camera.
Which bring me to my criteria. I need dual sim, good battery and camera and I don't root etc and don't have a problem with Emui.
Thoughts?
Mate 10 Pro have a better camera and better battery.
OP6T looks very good ..
In my opinion (I rooting all my phones).. I don't buy Huawei phone because has removed the community due to blocking access to the bootloader
OP 6T if you don't mind the battery. There's the Google Camera port for the OP 6T plus it supports 4K EIS for video recording. Also the 845 is better than the kirin 970
Well the 6T has an iffy fingerprint reader, the camera sucks (and it's not just the software) and just installing a port of the Google camera doesn't fix that. As far as the CPU goes, that's kind of subjective, the Kirin 970 is a very capable processor. The Kirin 970 has their advanced modem and will give you very good LTE speeds (I'm getting between 45 to 90mbps versus 18 to 24mbps with my mate 9) For a dual SIM phone I would really go with the mate 10 pro BLA-L29 international model, just remember that if you're in the US it won't have any warranty
I like the normal mate 10 over the mate 10 pro. Has headphone jack and front finger print sensor that acts as the 3 buttons too
Granted I don't have a pro version to compare against except on paper specs...
Appreciate the answers. The more I want to get the OP6T the more the 10 pro is looking better. Did the 10 pro dual sim version get the P20 pro night mode? If it did is it as good?
stay away from huawei after closed unlock bootloader service, and also there's no supporting for it,, and if you insist on mate 10 pro stay with Chinese version they have all support for OTA update.
OnePlus 6T is better with SD845 you'll have a lot of supporting from Developers, rom's, kernels, tweaks,, a lots of things.
i bought mate 10, 128G and 6Gb ram and i hate it after fkng huawei closed unlock service.
hamadazh said:
stay away from huawei after closed unlock bootloader service, and also there's no supporting for it,, and if you incest on mate 10 pro stay with Chinese version they have all support for OTA update.
OnePlus 6T is better with SD845 you'll have a lot of supporting from Developers, rom's, kernels, tweaks,, a lots of things.
i bought mate 10, 128G and 6Gb ram and i hate it after fkng huawei closed unlock service.
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Why do you assume everyone cares if the bootloader is locked?
IMO the mate 10 pro has better battery life, better camera, and is waterproof (plus I actually like EMUI and its features)
I have the mate 10 pro, battery is very good, but the most you get with pro mode and playing around with many settings... It's not the easy quick perfect picture camera. It has received many updates and it's camera is very capable (night mode of course is not as good as p20pro, it's got different sensors)
The op6t camera is very good. Some people here said it's trash but they are talking Bs. Just take a look for yourself and Google samples from op6 or 6t users. It's a great camera.
But I would go with the op6t any day. The kirin 970 is good on paper and benchmarks but it overheats very fast, I cannot play pubg on lowest settings after 10min it thermothrottles and fps drop. The op6t just has the newer gen CPU which will be important going forward if you are going to keep the phone for 3+ years.
The op6t battery is very similar in size I don't think the difference should be too big to be a deciding factor. Both have fast face unlock though the fingerprint reader ist different. Decide what you like better.
All in all I think op6t is the more up to date phone which will also receive more updates and has better hardware for the upcoming 3years of use. The m10pro is more like the old, strong buddy that can still keep up. But the question is for how long.
I've been using the mate 10 Pro for nearly a year. Mine is running June security update and no software update for 5 months.
I'm selling my mate 10 Pro and buying the OnePlus 6t this week.
I've had enough of Huawei lack of support and updates.
I wouldn't buy Huawei again.
I've been using a regular mate 10 for a year and mine stays up to date. I don't use anything special, the updates just come over the air. It seems some people don't get updates but both my mate 9 and 10 keep getting updates.
What update you are looking for? Mate 10 Pro has all security patches. If you are talking about Android 8.1 it is not that major update and maybe that is why only China models received it. The next Major Android 9 will soon be available and that's what matters.
UK version C782 are still on June security patch and 132. We are 6 months behind with bug fixing updates improvements and most important security! We have been left behind in the UK and that is why we are all jumping ship
10 pro. I already had oneplus devices, and didn't like them as much as I did with the Huawei ones. Imo, the build quality is far better. It's on par with Apple. The camera is fantastic. The battery is a major goal. At first, I was having problems to get use with EMUI, in the end I passed to like it. It's not as good as oxygen os, but it's have been improving. So, I'll keep my 10 pro for more 6 months or a year.
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[...] The kirin 970 is good on paper and benchmarks but it overheats very fast, I cannot play pubg on lowest settings after 10min it thermothrottles and fps drop. The op6t just has the newer gen CPU which will be important going forward if you are going to keep the phone for 3+ years. [...]
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Hu, something's wrong with your device. I play PUBG on higher setting everyday with coworkers at lunch, and I can play at least 30 minutes (since pause are not longer than that) consuming only 13% battery (not from 100%) and getting a 30-35°C that is not so hot, comparing to iPhone 8S that drain twice as much and can be barely kept in hand for the same lenght of time. Maybe some phone are better, but well, mate 10 pro is really good a handling games. My nintendo switch got hotter than that...
That said, I do not like the overhsarpening/oil-ing effect of the camera, so, even mid-tier camera are better for me, I would not go for the mate 10 for the camera.
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UK version C782 are still on June security patch and 132. We are 6 months behind with bug fixing updates improvements and most important security! We have been left behind in the UK and that is why we are all jumping ship
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I'm not, albeit I've rebranded to c432. I had an OP3 and came to Huawei primarily for the battery life, and here the Mate 10 pro still has nearly 10% bigger battery.
tmzbeme said:
Why do you assume everyone cares if the bootloader is locked?
IMO the mate 10 pro has better battery life, better camera, and is waterproof (plus I actually like EMUI and its features)
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as you like,, and you already like it!! and it's just opinion :good: no one force you to not buying it,, for me i like that things like unlocked bootloader and root and play in system and change rom's etc,, and i wish to replace my mate 10 with OnePlust 6t,, or other brand.
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Anything but Huawei. With a custom ROM things are okay, but relying on Huawei to update? Yes, they currently still treat this device as a flagship. But my other phone, a P10 Plus already lagging behind. Luckily I do have the bootloader unlocked on that device, so that's a relief.
If I had to do a comparison, Huawei updates are like Samsung. Be glad if you ever get them. Is OnePlus that great? Nope. Fingerprint sucks, camera sucks, battery sucks, warranty is the worst out of any manufacturer.
What to buy? Great question!
Been struggling with the same problem. There is just no choice on the market without compromise. Huawei had it all with the large battery, best of the best inside, but they decided to flip off customers and disallow the bootloader unlock.
Rip. I would probably buy a OnePlus 5T, Poco F1 (has no NFC and some screens have touch issues).
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Hi, I am trying to find an opinion about this smartphone and the New OnePlus Nord CE 2 5G. Both have the items I am looking for, sd card, jack 3.5 and near stock Android. I come from the Nokia 7 plus and I am very satisfied with the quality of the camera while using GCAM. Can you tell me what is the best choice in terms of camera quality between this two options? Sorry if I can't write here.
Pedro
Just a bit of info. Stock rom does not show the "auto" option in Settings/Display/Advanced/Display Refresh Rate.
Just 60/90Hz options. If you choose 90Hz it does lower to 60Hz for lock screen and google maps (known issue for map rendering if higher refresh rate).
I found out there is indeed an "auto" option when I installed the Smarthertz app.
I have updated my Google Pixel 6 now to the latest December Update so is my Samsung S21 Ultra.
This time - NO benchmarks - but... let`s just record 4K Video on 60 FPS with both phones!
Recently I had issues with Pixel 6 recording 4K Video on 60 FPS - after 13 minutes of steady recording the phone just becomes TOO HOT and video STOPS.
Did Google FIXED this with the recent December update?
Will the Pixel 6 phone BEAT the Samsung S21 Ultra and record LONGER 4K 60 FPS video?
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Damn!
A friend of my just shoot 45 minutes straight 4K 60 HVEC but on the Pixel 6 Pro - so yep, I suspect Pixel 6 cooling is definitely better.
Also I got another friend with a regular Pixel 6 do the same test and the phone got too hot on the 11th of minuted and video stopped recording,
All 3 of us running the latest December build.
Can you guys test as well?
P.S. My friend with the Pixel 6 Pro got 45:36 minutes, and the phone split the video in 2 files (screenshots attached). So it seems there is a 10 GB file size limit for 4k60 video.
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Damn!
A friend of my just shoot 45 minutes straight 4K 60 HVEC but on the Pixel 6 Pro - so yep, I suspect Pixel 6 cooling is definitely better.
Also I got another friend with a regular Pixel 6 do the same test and the phone got too hot on the 11th of minuted and video stopped recording,
All 3 of us running the latest December build.
Can you guys test as well?
P.S. My friend with the Pixel 6 Pro got 45:36 minutes, and the phone split the video in 2 files (screenshots attached). So it seems there is a 10 GB file size limit for 4k60 video.
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It's so amazing that the Pixel 6 can hold that long in 4K video recording and I just bought the phone a few days ago. This concluded my doubts that this is the best phone I've purchased.
The pro or the regular one?
Seems the pro is really the champ, probably better cooling and thermal behavior.
The pro actually, it is the best new flagship phone.
Well - I think it`s very close. I do prefer the S21 Ultra still (3x and 10x optics) and design and etc, but the 6 Pro is a killer phone.
Sadly - Pixel 6 is the best Pixel I can not recommend - as in my country the operators do not support VoLTE, VoWiFi and 5G - so you have to root it, use magisk modules, mess with the profiles to get some of that working and it`s just not fair for a premium phone
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Well - I think it`s very close. I do prefer the S21 Ultra still (3x and 10x optics) and design and etc, but the 6 Pro is a killer phone.
Sadly - Pixel 6 is the best Pixel I can not recommend - as in my country the operators do not support VoLTE, VoWiFi and 5G - so you have to root it, use magisk modules, mess with the profiles to get some of that working and it`s just not fair for a premium phone
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OMG! that is so sick, I hope soon there will be a 5G network in your country so you don't have to face this issue.
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Well - I think it`s very close. I do prefer the S21 Ultra still (3x and 10x optics) and design and etc, but the 6 Pro is a killer phone.
Sadly - Pixel 6 is the best Pixel I can not recommend - as in my country the operators do not support VoLTE, VoWiFi and 5G - so you have to root it, use magisk modules, mess with the profiles to get some of that working and it`s just not fair for a premium phone
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Are you from India too?
Edit: Read from one of your posts you're from Bulgaria, Europe.
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OMG! that is so sick, I hope soon there will be a 5G network in your country so you don't have to face this issue.
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It's not about there not being 5G networks, but that google phones can't connect to the existing ones if you have a sim from a country where they are not sold officially.
FYI, some info:
OnePlus reveals 10T colors, and why alert slider and camera branding are gone
OnePlus has revealed the reason why the OnePlus 10T will skip the classic alert slider and Hasselblad camera branding.
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I'm going to get this phone and they still have not yet revealed the complete specs, so I'm gonna wait for the best!
Same here. This 10T looks really nice.
I'm on 8 Pro for around 2 years now and was looking for a good successor. I've considered the Pixel 6 Pro, Xiaomi 12 Pro, Realme GT2 Pro and, sure, the OnePlus 10. These just didn't cut it for me though.
I'm really looking forward to the 10T's European release!
Edit: I wasn't aware of the fact that it can't wirelessly charge though... that's a real bummer. I use that on daily babe right now with my 8 Pro.
That and the fact that the alert slider will be absent makes me second guess if the 10T really is the phone for me.
Doubts, doubts, doubts...
Do we know how the new chip performs? Does it fix the overheating from gen 1?
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Do we know how the new chip performs? Does it fix the overheating from gen 1?
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From some reviews and the launch event, yes, and it should be 30% more efficient, but I would wait for some more long term reviews before buying. (Its also not even out so waiting is kind of a given lol) from benchmarks, it doesn't seem to do as well as other 8+ gen 1 phones in terms of score, however that may be due to not having the phone in performance mode. Until I get my hands on the phone itself tho, that's all the info I can really give.